Is this possible ? 95.2 miles w/ no bar lost ...

[Hershey]

and Eco-Meter reading 42.8 which is set at 95 . So , the gas mileage may be better than what it's showing . This tank is GULF 93 w/E10 and a 12 ounce bottle of Chevron Techron . The tires are four Blizzak WS 70s set at 36 p.s.i. . Here are the pics .

[DMZ]

I know I lose a bar when 2.2 gallons are consumed, so 2.2 X 42.8 = 94.16, yeah, very possible.

Though I usually lose the first bar at around 85 miles.

[2007yariz]

I have done that! Once i filled up at 30,000 miles so that i can see.

I will drive less and more gently since the cheapest gas in town is 3.82 as of now.( it's been raising 5 cents everyday)

[Hershey]

Had to go shopping earlier tonight and lost the 1st bar at 101 on the way there . Did change the oil to SHELL full synthetic 5w-20 ( SN/GF-5 ) along with the Toyota oil filter today . The car really seems to like this oil . Will keep updated until next fill up ( or sooner as well ) . This is the result when we arrived back .

[Hershey]

Forgot to mention this is the 4 speed auto .

[Spidermandud]

It does seem to me that the first bar or two on mine last a wee bit longer than the rest of the bars. Just you watch; the next few will go down faster.

..iftheydonthappentogodownthoughandyou'reactuallyg etting95.2mpgthenyou'recarisnuts.

[enviri]

funny, my first bar disappears in about 50mi :P (my driving style)

[caineroad]

the ecometer can you change it to km/l?

[Nicfin]

I haven't had my Yaris long, so I have only filled up a couple of times. On my last tank, I went just over 90 miles (around 93 I think) before the first bar disappeared. The others went down considerably faster.

Mine is a five-speed and I was using non-ethanol 87 octane.

[Hershey]

The bars have been disappearing faster as you said . The 4th bar at 260 .

[Spidermandud]

Just a gimmick to make you think you're doing overly spectacular at the beginning I think.

40+ from the eco is still sweet though, eh? :D

[why?]

remember the yaris gas can has a rubber bladder, so it changes size and shape depending on the temperature and other variables. Plus the in tank measure is horrific, to say the least. There has been reports of people running out of gas with the gauge showing 2 bars.

It also depends on if you overfill the tank as well, because the gauge in the tank only goes so high.

[Hershey]

Always 1 click of the gas nozzle when filling . Try to use same pump as well .

[Nicfin]

Plus the in tank measure is horrific, to say the least. There has been reports of people running out of gas with the gauge showing 2 bars.

Uh oh, I just hit one bar today and figured I had around 50 more miles. I guess I will find out how accurate my gas gauge is.

[fnkngrv]

You can for the most part estimate that when your second to last bar drops leaving you the final one (non-blinking) you have spent roughly 9.4/9.5 gals.

[fnkngrv]

I did that once when I was on my very first trip back with the car when I bought it in 06. Ended up with my only 46+ mpg tank.

[Hershey]

Lost the 6th bar ( top to bottom ) at around 362 . Should be able to get well over 420 (?) . If not , back to a Prius . The "C" .

[Hershey]

I did that once when I was on my very first trip back with the car when I bought it in 06. Ended up with my only 46+ mpg tank. That be a sedan or liftback with the manual or auto ? I can see a manual doing it .

[Hershey]

Update :

[Nicfin]

For those that might be interested, it appears that I have about a gallon left when my gauge goes to the remaining flashing bar. I filled up on my way to work this morning and put in 10.3 gallons and I had driven some the day before with the bar flashing.

It's looking like I am averaging 41-42 mpg. The first tank got me 42mpg and this one got me 41 mpg.

[Hershey]

automatic or manual ?

[Nicfin]

automatic or manual ?

I'm sorry. I thought it was in my description under my name. I need to change that.

It is a manual. I have read some reporting better here, but the last two tanks seem to be just over 40mpg. This has been mostly all in-town driving. I am not sure if a long trip will get me better.

[Spidermandud]

^I'd almost guarantee it, especially if you can get to a flat place.

Go hang out with the Floridians. . . They're always doin cool stuff haha.

[Hershey]

" I'm sorry. I thought it was in my description under my name. I need to change that. "

Oops , I think it is stated . Sorry , the eyes aren't what they were . Very good gas mileage . We had a 3 door with the 5 speed . Miss it . Did get over 43 with it a few times . Better pick up with the stick .

[Nicfin]

" I'm sorry. I thought it was in my description under my name. I need to change that. "

Oops , I think it is stated . Sorry , the eyes aren't what they were . Very good gas mileage . We had a 3 door with the 5 speed . Miss it . Did get over 43 with it a few times . Better pick up with the stick .

Hershey, it was not there. I changed it after you asked me if it was auto or not.

I like the manual. Other than work vehicles, I have never owned a vehicle with an automatic transmission. So, when I found the Yaris and saw it was a manual, I took that as a sign to buy it.

However, first gear can be a little tricky. I don't know if it is the wireless throttle, quietness of the engine, low idle or what, but I find it a little tricky starting off under certain conditions. I am better with it now, but I still need to get better.

[Hershey]

Oh :tongue: . Just another one of those moments :bonk: . I had the same issue at first , got better in time . The other 1/2 couldn't drive it that well , so traded it in so we'd have 2 automatics . Didn't sacrifice much for gas mileage . Enjoy your manual :cry: .

[SAV912]

Scott has done a test before, measuring when the gas gauge actually begins to measure consumption. That's the reason the first bar always lasts the longest. My record is 107 miles before the first bar disappears.

107 x 7 bars = 749 miles/tank...which is outlandish and impossible. Hence why on that same tank, I only got 423 miles. Mind you, I've only had patience to baby 400 miles out of a tank twice, and I've had my car for over 2 years now and almost 55,000 miles.

This is the reason that the first bar always last the longest, and subsequent bars disappear quicker. That first bar isn't measured properly because the gas can be filled beyond what the gauge inside the tank reads as 'full'.

-C

[why?]

Uh oh, I just hit one bar today and figured I had around 50 more miles. I guess I will find out how accurate my gas gauge is.

Don't drive to the car shuts off, the Yaris has a very efficient scavenger ability. If the car turns off you won't be able to restart it. I did that once.

Hershey, it was not there. I changed it after you asked me if it was auto or not.

I like the manual. Other than work vehicles, I have never owned a vehicle with an automatic transmission. So, when I found the Yaris and saw it was a manual, I took that as a sign to buy it.

However, first gear can be a little tricky. I don't know if it is the wireless throttle, quietness of the engine, low idle or what, but I find it a little tricky starting off under certain conditions. I am better with it now, but I still need to get better.

Starting off in the Yaris is a pain. The electronic throttle has issues. You can buy a controller that is supposedly much much better.

Scott has done a test before, measuring when the gas gauge actually begins to measure consumption. That's the reason the first bar always lasts the longest. My record is 107 miles before the first bar disappears.

107 x 7 bars = 749 miles/tank...which is outlandish and impossible. Hence why on that same tank, I only got 423 miles. Mind you, I've only had patience to baby 400 miles out of a tank twice, and I've had my car for over 2 years now and almost 55,000 miles.

This is the reason that the first bar always last the longest, and subsequent bars disappear quicker. That first bar isn't measured properly because the gas can be filled beyond what the gauge inside the tank reads as 'full'.

-C

When I ran out of fuel I had 444.4 miles on it. Also my best tank, I think the Yaris underestimates the gas in the tank when it gets down low as well, but no way am I running it down again, if it dies it won't start up again. I don't need to tempt fate and hit 400 miles on a tank.

[xhifer]

We once hit 100 before the first bar dropped but the rest of the bar dropped FAST. Still got 37MPG at the end with more highway than city driving. BAR ONE IS DECEIVING!

[Hershey]

The last bar started flashing just before the fill . Stopped at 1 click of nozzle . The Eco-Meter read lower than the calculated gas mileage of 42.05 . It's set at 95 . This was with 4 Blizzak WS70 snow tires set at 35 or was it 36 (?) which were removed earlier today . The two of us for 1/2 or a bit more of the tank . Average temp of 50 . The last picture of 41.9 is with the Continental Pro Contact w/ Eco Plus tires set at 35 with the 2 of us and the 4 Bliizzaks in the trunk . Some of it was speeds up to 70 on the interstate . This is the automatic . Will get back on this new tank with the Conti w/ Eco Plus . The oil is SHELL full synthetic 5w-20 (SN/GF-5) and the Toyota oil filter . The SHELL full synthetic was little over $3 a quart and the oil filter $3.50 . Both exclude tax .

[Hershey]

Pic of sedan with the FIT . Will be filling up the '11 Fit today and may keep track of gas mileage for comparison to the Yaris sedan . The FIT has 4 Blizzak WS60s and a 5 speed auto .

[fnkngrv]

That be a sedan or liftback with the manual or auto ? I can see a manual doing it .

Sedan...stick

Until I started modding performance-wise I was getting around 37 mixed and 39/41 true hwy

[Hershey]

No mods , in it for the gas mileage .

[malibuguy]

Thats pretty good for an auto. I was often losing the first bar at 120 miles. Lately with the cool weather an aggressive driving im losing the first bar in 90s 100s

[mryaris]

My '09 manual hatchback would always go 90-110 miles on the first bar. My best tank with that car was 47MPG and 500 miles (averaged ~40MPG). Unfortunately I rolled it a couple of years ago and I bought a '10 manual hatchback to replace it. I seem to only get 75-85 miles on the first bar, but the overall mileage is the same 40MPG as my '09 (my last tank was 43.7). So, like what everyone else has said, don't put much stock in that first bar.....it's not an accurate predictor of how far that tank will take you.

BTW.....I only start looking for gas stations at 400 miles. I can't imagine not getting at least 400 miles to a tank, unless I'm running the snow tires, then my mileage drops to 35-36MPG.

[daf62757]

We once hit 100 before the first bar dropped but the rest of the bar dropped FAST. Still got 37MPG at the end with more highway than city driving. BAR ONE IS DECEIVING!

I am starting to think that the Yaris has some cheap ass parts and things like the gas gauge are cheap and inconsistent. But yea, bar one is deceiving!

[Hershey]

Here's what the FIT ended up with . The low fuel light came on about 2 miles before the fill of SUNOCO 87w/E10 . Took 8.985 gallons at 1 click of nozzle (10.6 gallon tank ) . 348.6 miles on this tank . Forgot to get a pic of that . This is a base model with 5 speed auto . Four Blizzak WS60s at 35 p.s.i.. Use Honda Genuine 0w-20 ( SN/GF-5 ) synthetic motor oil which is produced by Kendall . The calculated mileage is 38.79 . The bottom pics are beginning of new tank . Drive home is long gradual climb and then about 2 1/2 mile descent .

[Ilovemyyaris]

I've noticed the bars aren't too accurate. At first I tried using them to calculate mpg and I was wondering why some bars would give me 70 mpg while others might give me 19 or so. Sometimes I lose bars when the engine isn't even turned on when I'm just sitting in the car.

[Hershey]

That has happened to this car as well .

[brg88tx]

i average 75 miles on first bar and about 50 miles per bar after that. that equates to about 38 mpg.

[Hershey]

This time it went 95 miles before losing the first bar . Eco is showing 40.2 m.p.g.. It should be better than that since it usually reads lower than the calculated gas mileage . Set at 95 for now .

[catliektheif]

did this yesterday

http://i43.tinypic.com/b8thd2.jpg

[Hershey]

:clap: . Keep it a going . Give us pics as the gas tank , tanks . Especially when you lose the 2nd bar . Usually it's sooner . I'll say 40 miles or so . Thanks .

[mr_miles]

i wish my fuel gauge read like that. i get down to the last bar when i still have 3 + gallons left....... between 230 and 250 miles i am at the last bar. only averaging high 34's to mid 35's per tank...

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I've gotten 125-130 miles out of my first bar a couple of times before with 17's on, short ram intake, and exhaust. lol. (07 sedan, stick shift).

I think that was all freeway. All city driving, I'll get 70-80 out of the first bar, and highway driving, I get 60-70 out of the first bar.

[Hershey]

Pics from tonight : Top is Yaris , bottom is FIT . Both now have the all seasons . Yaris has the Continental Pro Contact Eco Plus and the FIT are the DUNLOP SP31 A/S . The Eco Plus are much better than the SP31s.

[Hershey]

Filled up the '11 base model FIT w/ 5 speed auto with HESS 87w/E10 at 1 click of nozzle and ended up with 38.866 m.p.g. which was SUNOCO 87w/E10 . The display has been a bit lower than the calculated gas mileage . The tank was at 1/4 ( forgot to get that before refill ) . Some it was with the Blizzak WS60s ( mostly Dunlop SP31 set at 36 or was it 35.5 ? ) , 2 of us for little over 1/2 of the 284 miles , winds up to 15 m.p.h. , and many steep hills . City driving of 25% and speeds up to 70 on interstate . Average speed of 48 . Pics : ( 2 @ bottom are when got home ) :

[Hershey]

Filled up the sedan earlier and got 40.5 m.p.g. calculated with unknown 87 w/E10 . Ended up with 41 on Eco-Meter when got home . Was at 43 , but some steep hills put an end to that . Probably won't post until there's gas mileage of 43 or better .

[nookandcrannycar]

remember the yaris gas can has a rubber bladder, so it changes size and shape depending on the temperature and other variables. Plus the in tank measure is horrific, to say the least. There has been reports of people running out of gas with the gauge showing 2 bars.

It also depends on if you overfill the tank as well, because the gauge in the tank only goes so high.

The 'overfill' issue would explain why the 'first bar drop' on my tanks occurs at a mileage point beyond what it seems to be most people are experiencing on this thread. My best is a first bar drop was a bit over 140 miles and my worst was at about 98 miles. I rarely drop below 115-120 re first bar drops. I fill my tank all the way to the top so that my MPG calculations are relevant from tank to tank. This would also explain why (after long ago running out of gas while pulling into a gas station to fuel my Yaris and filling all the way to the top as I usually do) I know that my Yaris will take 12.777 gallons, which is more than stated in the specifications for the Yaris.

[why?]

The 'overfill' issue would explain why the 'first bar drop' on my tanks occurs at a mileage point beyond what it seems to be most people are experiencing on this thread. My best is a first bar drop was a bit over 140 miles and my worst was at about 98 miles. I rarely drop below 115-120 re first bar drops. I fill my tank all the way to the top so that my MPG calculations are relevant from tank to tank. This would also explain why (after long ago running out of gas while pulling into a gas station to fuel my Yaris and filling all the way to the top as I usually do) I know that my Yaris will take 12.777 gallons, which is more than stated in the specifications for the Yaris.

You are also in Houston, which means the rubber bladder will always be larger than almost everyone else in the USA. I generally fill to the second click, because I've never been able to trust the first one.

[nookandcrannycar]

You are also in Houston, which means the rubber bladder will always be larger than almost everyone else in the USA. I generally fill to the second click, because I've never been able to trust the first one.

...that 12.777 gallon fill up was actually in the SF Bay area and I had been there for a few months when that happened, but yes most of the times that I have come close to that total have been near Houston. I fill my tank to the top of the neck so that the gas level has just become visible.

[why?]

...that 12.777 gallon fill up was actually in the SF Bay area and I had been there for a few months when that happened, but yes most of the times that I have come close to that total have been near Houston. I fill my tank to the top of the neck so that the gas level has just become visible.

That's flat out dangerous.

[jay cobbs]

thr first bar is about 2.4 gallons. most blogs complain about the gauge is not " EVEN" when using fuel. your scangauge for about 43 mpg sounds about right. My 2010 auto 4 speed gets that but heres how you might get more.... DONT OVER FILL STOP AT FIRST SHUT OFF PULL BACK SLIGHTLY TO LET VAPOR ESCAPE AND FILL TO NEXT SHUT OFF OR YOU WILL DAMAGE THE GASKETS AND NECK LINER ON THE TANK......ITS FULL>>>>DONT DAMAGE YOUR YARIS....IT"LL COST YOU BIG-TIME....

1. make sure air and oil filters are clean if not take to gas station and blow out air with air hose if still gray or brown...replace.:redface:

2. dino oil is fine check with trusted mechanic about swich to synthetic may only get 2-3 more per gallon .Weigh that with cost to see if thats good increse . or stick with Dino oil changes...do them like the manual says.:clap:

3. I dont over inflate my tires ever. mine are 195-15 size and the sidewall says 52 max. psi. Im at 37-38 psi ride is comfy. you can inflate to reduce road friction but tires will wear faster so keep them within the specs.. ...guess which is more expensive tires later, or gas right now.... ( answer...tires and rubber cost)

4. use what the epa calls "TOP TIER" gasoline. I get 3-5 miles a gallon better with chevron which has the techro "lean" additive your paing extra for now :iono: ...and union 76 is good for small engines too. they have less fuel fillers and more additives that make the engine run and stay cleaner....remember, its the long haul your engine is looking for...:thumbsup:

FINALY... DONT BE A DRAG.... remove un-needed junk from the trunk. keep the spare if you must but with an auto club card or fix a flat can you might do better on milage. keep short errands togther to save gas.

LOOK AT YOU TUBE for eathier hypermiling tips or prius drive techniques ( which is why prius goes so far on gas... the dashboard is training the driver to "hypermile" and gives a video game to play for about 24K.:eyebulge:

The Yaris 1.5L engine is the same type as the prius c and the drag weight and other specs are pretty close to your yaris...the main diffrence beside low resistance tires and a little trimer body ... IS YOU AND HOW YOU CAN MAKE YOUR YARIS INTO A PRIUS,:burnrubber: PRESTO... WITH KNOWLAGE...NOT TECHNO TRICKS. BE PROUD OF YOUR YARIS....ITS THE SECRET LOVE CHILD BETWEEN A CAMRY AND A PRIUS.:wub: ITS STRONG like dad AND SIPS GAS LIKE MOM....ENJOY:biggrin:

[Spidermandud]

That's flat out dangerous.

I'm with why? on this.

[nookandcrannycar]

That's flat out dangerous.

Is it dangerous because of: 1. What might happen during the fill up (e.g some people might fill to the point of a spill and might also be doing something dumb and illegal like smoking in that environment or doing something less obvious like getting in and out of the car and building up static electricity)....or 2. Something inherently dangerous about driving with the fuel at that level in any car (however statistically slim the chance might be for a damaging consequence)? I've seen many different signs around pumps in nearly every state and in the foreign countries I've driven in with messages and symbols re what not to do when filling up and a small indication as to why. I've also read articles that touched on fill up safety while addressing other auto issues, but haven't happened to come across any articles dealing with fuel level while you are driving, but would truly (not sarcastically) like to know any issues. I have incorporated every fill up precaution I've ever heard about into my fill up behavior, EXCEPT re fuel level (I'm pretty OCD when it comes to always having the same reference point re each fill up so that I know my MPG figures have a consistent reference point....I know...I'm rationalizing...but I recycle, live in a energy star house of reasonable size that consumed fewer resources to build than a larger house, drive a Yaris, and just generally do things to have the smallest possible 'footprint'). In California topping off is 'tsk-tsk' and beyond, but I've never heard anyone say why. I've always thought it might be that topping off increases the volume of whatever chemicals are escaping that are or might be damaging the air.