No respect in a Yaris?

[Nicfin]

Hey all, I'm a relatively new member and I have had my Yaris for only about a month now. I like the car and the great gas mileage, but the interaction with other drivers is baffling to say the least. It seems I get zero respect on the road and it really goes beyond that. For example, I was leaving work the other day and before I pulled out onto the street, I noticed a full-size Dodge pickup truck heading the same direction I was going. I had plenty of time to pull out and get on down the road, but I guess the driver felt I should have waited for him to go by because he made a point to pass me (on a no passing road) and he then slammed on brakes in front of me. I was about 75 yards from him when I pulled out and it is a 30MPH zone. It took him about 150 yards just to catch me and get in front of me. It was hard for him to catch me and he had to really get on the gas to catch up. Plus, after pulling that little stunt, he almost missed his turn and came close to hitting the curb.

Today I was driving home and going through a 30mph zone notorious for being a speed trap. It is a winding road in a neighborhood with many curves and it is no passing road. A car with some teenagers was behind me and the driver was staying very close, so I sped up to about 37mph. Just before we got to a sharp curve, the idiot decides to pass me. I was not happy about that and I stuck my head out the window and said some things that weren't nice, while pointing down at the double lines. I could tell I scared the driver, because he immediately turned at the next available road.

There have been other little incidents, but those two have stuck in my mind the most.

OK, I know I don't drive any different than before. Actually, I have been having to watch my speed in this little car. My other vehicle is a black 97 Tacoma 4X4 and it is not as peppy as the Yaris. I tend to get a little carried away in the car as opposed to my truck. However, it is obvious I am treated differently in my truck, even though it is a small pickup. I guess it is human psychology at work. Of course I know I have to drive differently in the Yaris as opposed to my truck. I can tell it is harder for people to see me, and I am aware of that. However, it is almost like the Yaris is making people mad.

Can anyone relate?

[mazilla]

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[SailDesign]

I find no problems here in Rhode island, so maybe it's a locational thing. You ARE in redneck country down there, y'know. Shouldn't make a difference, but...

[caineroad]

if you live in downtown area, there will be more respect from my observation but since you are living in alabama... there's much of people with no respect to others than other states so doesn't really matter which car you drive

[Nicfin]

You ARE in redneck country down there, y'know. Shouldn't make a difference, but...

No, I hate to admit it, but you are correct. Not that it should matter and I am stereotyping, but I believe other drivers think I am a small female or elderly person driving a car of that type. Conversely, they think I am probably some mean guy while I am in my black truck. My side windows came with legal aftermarket tint. The back glass of my Yaris is tinted too (factory I think), so it is hard to see who is driving it. I'm 6'2" and about 215 lbs. I could tell it really shook up the driver today when I stuck my head out the window and yelled at him. I think he was expecting someone else.

I find it odd that another driver would "bully" someone in a smaller car just because it is small.

[CrankyOldMan]

I'm sure there are loads of other sites with related info, this is just the first thing that I pulled up: Driving Psychology (http://www.drdriving.org/articles/principles.htm)

[weedtank]

nice link crankyoldman

[Chuck G]

This is why we all meet up here!

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Don't let the idiots bother you. Just drive defensively.

They will crash soon enough, then you can...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FUyu3csPq0

Oh, and a quick story related to getting no respect in a car.

Three or so months ago, I was driving my former car, a '94 Geo Metro 3-door hatchback through my town that I live in, going to work. I was in the left lane, doing the posted limit of 50mph. I was 50 yards from an intersection, and some jagoff in a Nissan Frontier with his windows down cuts me off, and I had to jam on my brakes. The light was just turning red, and he took the left anyway...running the light.

He ran into the side of an Escalade, and I just waited for the green, and I drove right past him, within feet, and laughed a very loud, exaggerated laugh (he was clearly at fault).

If you drive responsibly, you, like Nelson, will get the last laugh! lol

[07stlYaris]

Just recently I subscribed to Biker logic and put a loud exhaust on my 07 LB. I think it has worked somewhat. I haven't been passed or cut off for a week now and I credit it to them hearing me. I'm not shilling for the exhaust company I bought from but getting louder might help. Whoda thunk that an exhaust could be a safety device?!? :iono:

Bikers generally don't go any faster than the flow of traffic but they also don't get cut off due to the loud factor (Just my humble opinion).

On a side note. I'm a gun toting former Marine and a proud redneck and I drive nice. Rash generalizations are made by people with rashes.

[Hershey]

It's the same here . A neighbor and his buddy were sitting in a SILVERADO and pointed at the '08 3 door then started laughing . Probably making fun of how it looks like a clown car . I guess that makes us Bozo the clown .

[07stlYaris]

No more A-holes asking "Is that one of them there electric cars?". Fricken Douchebags. I hate that. I wouldn't drive a battery powered car if they were giving them away.

[eTiMaGo]

maybe hang one of those ballsack trailer hitches thingies?

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

Just recently I subscribed to Biker logic and put a loud exhaust on my 07 LB. I think it has worked somewhat. I haven't been passed or cut off for a week now and I credit it to them hearing me. I'm not shilling for the exhaust company I bought from but getting louder might help. Whoda thunk that an exhaust could be a safety device?!? :iono:

Bikers generally don't go any faster than the flow of traffic but they also don't get cut off due to the loud factor (Just my humble opinion).

On a side note. I'm a gun toting former Marine and a proud redneck and I drive nice. Rash generalizations are made by people with rashes.

Thank you for your service. USAF vet here, "ash and trash", yada-yada-yada. lol

I actually like the near silence of the Yaris at idle. It shows refinement, but I can easily understand wanting a louder exhaust for a sportier sound, and being more safe through application of the Doppler Effect.

It's the same here . A neighbor and his buddy were sitting in a SILVERADO and pointed at the '08 3 door then started laughing . Probably making fun of how it looks like a clown car . I guess that makes us Bozo the clown .

They won't be so smug when gas hits a national average of $5/gallon this Summer. Just brush them off for the idiots they are. You will get the last laugh.

[P Davis]

I feel your pain its the same way here in North Carolina. People in suvs and trucks treat you like crap they cut you off try to run over you...I got rear ended by a full size f150 king cab ford pulling a trailer i was sitting still at a red light!!! The said they didnt see me...What the hell!!!!! My car is red blind or stupid was my question to the cop as they carried me away in ambulance..I have gotten in trouble alot giving people the finger and using choice words when the try to run over me..But wouldnt trade my Yaris for nothing!! Yari people take a stand aginst haters!:evil:

[Altitude]

I'm happy to say that despite the number of Big-Ass Trucks(tm) here in Colorado, that I haven't seen any such disrespect for the Yaris. I own a Jeep too and I really don't get treated differently when driving it.

That's not to say there aren't issues, but people here tend to disrespect other drivers no matter what vehicle they drive. :wink:

[fnkngrv]

I lived in Prattville, AL from Nov 10 to July 11. I am sure if Jinni and Jason see this they will slap me, but AL is full of rednecks and incompetent drivers. I had folks all over the state no matter where I drove try to give me shit for my Yaris. Lemme tell you that I can drive circles around the bulk of them and once I became boosted the end of May mostI came across changed their tune. I have driven all over the country with exception to Cali and Wyoming...even driven in Alaska...not HI tho. Alabama rules terrible and ignorant driving with an iron fist even over Mass, Jersey, and NY. Just let it roll of you and try your best to ignore it. Almost every person that approached me to talk about my car there asked how I liked my Hybrid...even calling it a Prius. Take pity on those poor unenlightened ones.

[P Davis]

I get asked quite often how I like my hybrid..When I tell them its not a hybrid they look at me like im crazy..

[SailDesign]

I get asked quite often how I like my hybrid..When I tell them its not a hybrid they look at me like im crazy..

If Toyota would just frikkin' ADVERTISE the Yaris, people would understand.... :sigh:

[P Davis]

I agree!! More air time for the Yaris

[Nicfin]

I have been asked more than once where the battery is. I always laugh and say it's under the hood. I have also noticed a few people pointing at my Yaris and talking about it. They seem to be smiling and laughing, so I assume they are joking about it. The SUV/big vehicle mentality still reigns supreme down here. If gas goes to $5.00 a gallon by this summer, I will be the one laughing. Heck, I'm laughing now at $3.60. My gas bill is 1/3 of what it has been compared to my 97 Tacoma.

Yeah, Toyota does not advertise the Yaris. I knew the name, but when I was looking for a small vehicle, I was looking hard at Corollas and had totally forgotten about the Yaris. Since Corollas (even used ones) are overpriced here, I searched for a Yaris and luckily found mine at a good price.

[Damo]

I believe other drivers think I am a small female or elderly person driving a car of that type. Conversely, they think I am probably some mean guy while I am in my black truck.
90% of the idiots on the road dont think, period - Its not your car, its the 'me-me' mentality of the (usually younger) generation on our roads.

Incidentally, most of them take their lack of patience and respect OFF the road too.

Bring back the good ol 'clip behind the ear'

[fnkngrv]

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[broody]

Yeah, Toyota does not advertise the Yaris. I knew the name, but when I was looking for a small vehicle, I was looking hard at Corollas and had totally forgotten about the Yaris. Since Corollas (even used ones) are overpriced here, I searched for a Yaris and luckily found mine at a good price.

It's quite the opposite here in Quebec province, the Corolla is cheaper than yaris brand new, and used they sell for about the same. In my town (Montreal city) most cars are compact and sub compacts, and big trucks ans SUV (while suv are common too) are the marginal ones. People all drive the same no matter what car you drive, and I'm the one following others too close, not the one followed. I have a bike too, and that's different from driving a car, but I haven't drive it much yet (just got my license and it was winter), I had no issues but I'm always affraid of not being seen and cut.

[Nicfin]

It's quite the opposite here in Quebec province, the Corolla is cheaper than yaris brand new, and used they sell for about the same. In my town (Montreal city) most cars are compact and sub compacts, and big trucks ans SUV (while suv are common too) are the marginal ones. People all drive the same no matter what car you drive, and I'm the one following others too close, not the one followed. I have a bike too, and that's different from driving a car, but I haven't drive it much yet (just got my license and it was winter), I had no issues but I'm always affraid of not being seen and cut.


Very interesting. Corollas far outnumber the Yaris here. Although, I see a Yaris quite frequently, but it is nowhere even close to the number of Corrollas on the road. Riding a bike down here is risky. I used to cycle a lot. I feel I was barely cheating death when I did. Riding a bike on ANY public road is frowned upon by most motor vehicle drivers here. I had several drivers curse and blow their horn at me. Some would even try to come as close as possible to me just to make a point. I ride the very edge of the road and it was still not good enough. They just don't think you should be on the road with a bicycle down here.

[tomato]

.. It seems I get zero respect on the road and it really goes beyond that. .....

There have been other little incidents, but those two have stuck in my mind the most.

..... Can anyone relate?


F..ck yeah!!! I've been putting up with this for years, since I used to drive a smaller car before and it is indeed complete disregard for the small car out there for some reason. :iono: Not trying to over generalize but yeah, a lot of people will just assume they can cut in front of me, whatever.... On the other hand, whenever I drove the ex's [much bigger car], it was like they were parting in front of me in the freeway so I could merge. :iono:


I guess now I've developed different driving habits when I drive a small car. Either you have to be more assertive, or simply let them go ahead, depending on the situation, what is safe at the time, do you have room go first or is it better to let the jerks cut in front of you rather than get into a fender bender...

I know the Yaris is somewhat underpowered for certain situations on the road, so I tread lightly in some cases.

[Perpetuous_Dreamer]

It is all about mentality. I drive my Yaris almost like a grandma, though I have Yamaha R1, a 1000cc motorcycle. That is why I smile at people who try to race my Yaris!:biggrin:

[why?]

I don't really have a problem, of course I drive slower than almost everyone on the road, and if they try to tailgate me I'll brake check them faster than they can change the radio station.

Mostly though I just don't care what other drivers think. When push comes to shove, most people don't want to get in an accident.

Although I will also admit to pushing the Yaris father than most people are willing to push their cars handling wise. Let the tail of the car come out and play! After out handling people they won't give you grief.

[CPALK719]

i believe its your area. here in south florida i see quite a few yaris more the older gens the the 12 model, and their just zipping around town. as for the respect issue, i do tend to see people always trying to cut in front of me, but mostly because their in a hurry. im 28 yrs old 6'2 220 lbs. i know i dont fit the usual yaris driver criteria. but i think due to me having very dark windows would give away im definetly not a senior citizen, also the fact at nighttime i just installed HIDS lighting.

my guess would be its the good Ol' boy syndrome over in your specific area. dont let it bother you. there's asshole drivers all through the United states.

[broody]

Very interesting. Corollas far outnumber the Yaris here. Although, I see a Yaris quite frequently, but it is nowhere even close to the number of Corrollas on the road. Riding a bike down here is risky. I used to cycle a lot. I feel I was barely cheating death when I did. Riding a bike on ANY public road is frowned upon by most motor vehicle drivers here. I had several drivers curse and blow their horn at me. Some would even try to come as close as possible to me just to make a point. I ride the very edge of the road and it was still not good enough. They just don't think you should be on the road with a bicycle down here.

I was talking about a motorcycle, not a bicycle. I ride my bicycle almost every day when the weather allows it, and near downtown it's really not an issue, car drivers are used to them and there are many bicycle lanes. In the suburbs though, it may be dangerous on big boulevards, people expect us to drive on the sidewalk I guess, and even then, once a car hit me (without damage, the lady turned in the entrance crossing the sidewalk without looking).

It is all about mentality. I drive my Yaris almost like a grandma, though I have Yamaha R1, a 1000cc motorcycle. That is why I smile at people who try to race my Yaris!:biggrin:

My motorcycle is a 250cc, so it's not that much faster than a Yaris. But to drive around town it's more than enough and I can hit the 17 000rpm redline without doing 3 times the speed limits :D

I don't really have a problem, of course I drive slower than almost everyone on the road, and if they try to tailgate me I'll brake check them faster than they can change the radio station.

Mostly though I just don't care what other drivers think. When push comes to shove, most people don't want to get in an accident.

Although I will also admit to pushing the Yaris father than most people are willing to push their cars handling wise. Let the tail of the car come out and play! After out handling people they won't give you grief.

Even if I get brake checked, I'll continue to tailgate you (with my high beams ON), I'll just be more prepared to brake quickly. Just drive faster or let people pass is they boher you. At least with a motorcyle it's easier to pass people anywhere (although not safer).

And I see the Yaris hatchback as the replacement of the Civic hatchback of the 90's. So, for me, it's a small car for young drivers who like to drive quickly around town, not a grandma car.

[why?]

Even if I get brake checked, I'll continue to tailgate you (with my high beams ON), I'll just be more prepared to brake quickly. Just drive faster or let people pass is they boher you. At least with a motorcyle it's easier to pass people anywhere (although not safer).


Are you willing to get into a fight? I've stopped on people who think they can be assholes when they drive. I've brake checked a motorcycle who thought he could sit behind me with his helmet basically on my rear windshield. I'd rather force you to be polite, or fight you to the death, then let you be a piece of garbage while you drive. I'm also 6'2" and weigh a ton.

Is being a piece of garbage worth your life? Because I'll gladly make you murder me knowing you will spend the rest of your life in jail, where people who act like that belong.

[DebbyM46227]

Nicfin, I think it's due to what the others said, Alabama and most of the Southern states are full of rednecks. Even here in Indiana we have our share of them, most of them disgruntled General Motors workers who were laid off last summer when the GM Stamping Plant closed. And the local Ford Motor Co./Visteon closed also.

Another thing it could be is the people who just plain hate Japanese cars, for the above reasons. Years ago I was lined up at the Indpls Motor Speedway to get in for the first day of qualifying and I just happened to be in line behind a UAW worker with a bumper sticker that said "I'm Union and I'm Damn Proud of It". He was drunk and when he saw my Honda CRX he threw a beer bottle through my glass. It just so happened a Safety Patrol guy came by at the same time and had him arrested by the State Police.

Still, there's not a week that goes by where someone tries to run me over and they all get the finger.

[DARKSCOPE001]

hello all.

When I was first learning to drive I used to get upset at every driver that tried to cut me off on the freeway or pulled out infront of me or raced me to be infront of me, whatever the list goes on.

As I get older I realize all I really want to do is live my life, if they want to be jerks let them. This what I think of when im driving. "its costing me less than 1/2 a gallon of gas to drive to and from work, i take it easy and enjoy the drive (im really not in any rush to start a 12 hour shift working on airplanes anyways :wink: ) If you must be infront of me whatever, its your loss because you just burned up in that one little move what i do in an entire day of driving."

Dont let it get to you, I think its a power thing. They think by being ahead 1 car in the "great race" they have gained some kind of better position in life, and that they gained power and respect, also they see the yaris and think "oh its just a little slow car with granny driving I can beat up on it" just let em and laugh.


Good luck
Sean Scott

[CanIHazYarisHatch?]

hello all.

When I was first learning to drive I used to get upset at every driver that tried to cut me off on the freeway or pulled out infront of me or raced me to be infront of me, whatever the list goes on.

As I get older I realize all I really want to do is live my life, if they want to be jerks let them. This what I think of when im driving. "its costing me less than 1/2 a gallon of gas to drive to and from work, i take it easy and enjoy the drive (im really not in any rush to start a 12 hour shift working on airplanes anyways :wink: ) If you must be infront of me whatever, its your loss because you just burned up in that one little move what i do in an entire day of driving."

Dont let it get to you, I think its a power thing. They think by being ahead 1 car in the "great race" they have gained some kind of better position in life, and that they gained power and respect, also they see the yaris and think "oh its just a little slow car with granny driving I can beat up on it" just let em and laugh.


Good luck
Sean Scott

I have to agree, and nine times out if ten, I usually pull right next to them at the stop light anyway. We both got at the same place and THEY (the speeder/s) have to wait just like I (in the Yaris) do.

They just burn more fuel, and increase wear and tear on their vehicle (beating on it in a rush to get somewhere) instead of me. Let them waste money to potentially "save" a couple of seconds. No paint off my bumper! I'll just sit in the right lane and enjoy a nice, quiet drive listening to some Beethoven or Bach.

Or Epica.

:thumbsup:

[broody]

Are you willing to get into a fight? I've stopped on people who think they can be assholes when they drive. I've brake checked a motorcycle who thought he could sit behind me with his helmet basically on my rear windshield. I'd rather force you to be polite, or fight you to the death, then let you be a piece of garbage while you drive. I'm also 6'2" and weigh a ton.

Is being a piece of garbage worth your life? Because I'll gladly make you murder me knowing you will spend the rest of your life in jail, where people who act like that belong.

Is not letting me pass worth a fight?
You are unpolite by driving slowly without letting people pass, it's normal to get the same lack of politeness from the guy behind you.

And the top drivers at work (food delivery, in yarises) are always making 40-80% more orders than some other drivers, so driving quickly isn't just a matter of seconds, but a matter of minutes which makes me gain maybe 1-2k$ extra at the end of the year. And I'm not more dangerous than anyone, I have never been close to have a responsible accident implying other cars, or at least not due to the non respect of the law. Driving fast = more focused, less distracted, less small accidents due to a lack of attention on the road.

And driving slow is boring, going fast and trying to make a way through the traffic is part of the game and the excitement, and that's whate make driving supportable. Otherwise, I'd hate driving and I'd rather take the bus (which I do when it's not much longer than car). The yaris is a great car to drive quick around town, it takes sharp turns and it makes U-turns so easilly.

[killacam64]

In South Dakota i get passed and cut off in my yaris sedan and my chevy silverado. most ppl around here are just bad drivers. I think its becasue there is too much room and people just are not used to being close to others on the road.

[Altitude]

... going fast and trying to make a way through the traffic is part of the game and the excitement...

Um... where to start? :eek:

[why?]

Is not letting me pass worth a fight?
You are unpolite by driving slowly without letting people pass, it's normal to get the same lack of politeness from the guy behind you.

And the top drivers at work (food delivery, in yarises) are always making 40-80% more orders than some other drivers, so driving quickly isn't just a matter of seconds, but a matter of minutes which makes me gain maybe 1-2k$ extra at the end of the year. And I'm not more dangerous than anyone, I have never been close to have a responsible accident implying other cars, or at least not due to the non respect of the law. Driving fast = more focused, less distracted, less small accidents due to a lack of attention on the road.

And driving slow is boring, going fast and trying to make a way through the traffic is part of the game and the excitement, and that's whate make driving supportable. Otherwise, I'd hate driving and I'd rather take the bus (which I do when it's not much longer than car). The yaris is a great car to drive quick around town, it takes sharp turns and it makes U-turns so easilly.

i don't even need to read the garbage, where did i say i don't let people pass? Where? Reading comprehension is good for you. Just pretend you have a brain in your head, and if you think really hard, you might actually turn it on.

[broody]

i don't even need to read the garbage, where did i say i don't let people pass? Where? Reading comprehension is good for you. Just pretend you have a brain in your head, and if you think really hard, you might actually turn it on.

If you get followed, it's because you didn't let the people pass. Unless the guy following is really dumb and is staying behind you on a 2+ lanes road.

[Hershey]

I'll pull off to the side of the road when possible when someone is getting worked up and following to closely . That way I don't get peeved as well :evil: . No matter how fast you go some will still get up on your :moon: .

[why?]

If you get followed, it's because you didn't let the people pass. Unless the guy following is really dumb and is staying behind you on a 2+ lanes road.

where on earth do you live? East timbucktoo? Do you drive on one lane roads that see 5-20 vehicles a week?

Or maybe you just got your license a few days ago and have zero idea of what you are talking about.

Here in real civilization people are jerks. They tailgate you and flash their lights at you on 4 lane highways. There is literally no road i drive on where passing is not easy, nowhere in my commute where i consistently go below the speed limit. I am always the slowest person on the road, and even when they can pass easily, people like you would rather be a jerk.

Now if you really are a child who just got your license, realize now there are people who will stop, get out of their car, and beat you to within an inch of your life if you tailgate them like you claim you do. And you have no idea which car they are in, what move they might make. I've seen people on highways choose to play demolition derby with cars because someone did something that pissed them off, you literally do not know which person you are driving near is ready to die, or who is in such a bad mood they would love to die by ramming your car.

Now someone who does what you do I slow down or stop. If they are in a bad mood they quickly get scared shitless when they see someone 6'2" and bigger than most football players step out of the vehicle, and they go around like they should. However there are people who carry guns in the vehicles. There are people in terrible moods who will grab tire irons and go after you with it. I saw a lady in a bmw stop, put her car in reverse, and smash into someone who pissed her off while she was driving ,she then got out of her car and started pounding on the other vehicle.

This isn't fantasyland, this isn't a playground. You are driving a weapon, with people around you driving weapons. It only takes one stupid error with one other person who is ready to die to change your life forever, if you are lucky enough to survive.

[broody]

I'll pull off to the side of the road when possible when someone is getting worked up and following to closely . That way I don't get peeved as well :evil: . No matter how fast you go some will still get up on your :moon: .

That's a good attitude. Sometimes I drive slowly to find the adress while delivering, and if other cars are behing me, I'll pull on the side with my warning lights so that people can pass me. When I see random people or taxi drivers almost stopped or driving 20kph in the middle of the street for whatever reason, I'm pissed.

[Strider199]

I have noticed that other vehicles seem not to see my 2012 black 3 door Yaris. I have had to hit the horn (this must be replaced soon), twice in the last month. It seems like other drivers just don't see the car when changing lanes or think I will submit and hit the brakes.

I used to drive a VW Golf and didn't have these types of issues. What gives?

[carolinablue]

I used to subscribe to "Pull off to the side of the road and let them pass" until some moron threw a coke bottle at my car when I did. It could have just as easily been a bullet. It is much safer if you keep rolling.

[DARKSCOPE001]

so not to dig up a thread from death, but I had a good one today. I had a red ford focus hatchback race to get infront of me, Nobody i mean NOBODY! was behind me after getting Right infront of me he slams on the brakes to make the next turn off. What gives? I mean Yea i get it. Its a yaris, I bought it for fuel economy and i drive like a little old lady going to get groceries.

But wtf? Speed limit on this road is 50mph, I was probably doing 45-47 and accelerating from the previous light. Does this really justify cutting off then brake checking a poor little yaris? Derp :mad:

Thanks
Sean Scott

[Spidermandud]

Step 1) Buy that window marker stuff
Step 2) Draw a dick on his windows
Step 3) post pictures of the results

[oliveskate]

I get no respect driving my yaris, or from people at work who knows I drive on. But when a car pulls up besides me (like a cobalt, civic, etc...) and I beat them, i just LOL.

[DARKSCOPE001]

Step 1) Buy that window marker stuff
Step 2) Draw a dick on his windows
Step 3) post pictures of the results

HAHAHA i really like that idea. Next time I will. it was some young punk kid too

[Nicfin]

maybe hang one of those ballsack trailer hitches thingies?

Ever since eTIMaGo suggested it, I have been so tempted to do it. A big chrome pair.

[tomato]

That, I want to see!! PHOTOS, PLEASE!!! :D

[vincentg]

In my country (Philippines) people here are used to 4 door sedans and the only known hatchback is the Honda Fit. It is seldom that you see a Yaris around here too. More of the Fit, Suzuki Swift and Mazda 2 thats roaming around the streets here.

People are like what car is that and stuff.
At least i got to smoke my friend and his Honda Fit. hahahahaha.

[mirapatec]

No love and no hate. There are still not enough Yari in my area to make a dent. I am still unique.

[LuckySweetheart]

I've had to learn how to drive *much* more aggressively since moving to Dallas from Los Angeles in 2011.

[tooter]

Traffic is just cars in line who can't move any faster than what's in front of them.
So I drive as if I'm the person behind me. :smile:

They want to make it through the green lights just as much as I do. In traffic, I act as their lead vehicle and help to keep them moving by not lagging. And if someone needs to change lanes, I'm there to help them get to where they think they need to be, because I enjoy being treated with the same courtesy. I regard the other cars in traffic as if we are all on the same team, and I keep a lookout for little opportunities to help things to flow smoothly.

It's amazing how nicely people respond when you're helpful. :thumbsup:

[nookandcrannycar]

if they try to tailgate me I'll brake check them faster than they can change the radio station.


^^^^^ This. Me too. Rarely happens though.

[nookandcrannycar]

Even if I get brake checked, I'll continue to tailgate you (with my high beams ON), I'll just be more prepared to brake quickly. Just drive faster or let people pass is they boher you. At least with a motorcyle it's easier to pass people anywhere (although not safer).

And I see the Yaris hatchback as the replacement of the Civic hatchback of the 90's. So, for me, it's a small car for young drivers who like to drive quickly around town, not a grandma car.

*Sigh* These two paragraph reveal such ig*****ce, I almost don't know where to start. I'm not sure I can fault you that much though, as I had a similar attitude for probably the first 9 years I had my DL,and I got my DL when I was 16. As you can read from my reply to why?'s same post that you are replying to, I occasionally do the same thing.

First of all, I don't know how much traveling you have done, but it is ig*****t to assume that the construction/composition of all roads fits to your experience. When tailgating happens to me, I'm going the speed limit or at most 1-2 mph under the limit. It almost always happens to me on roads that are one lane in each direction and most of that time there is a double yellow line. On most of the roads like this (and many other roads in Texas) there is no shoulder. Texas is a low tax, low service state, so I imagine this is a large reason for the lack of shoulders. These roads are also usually in unincorporated areas with less 'motivation to tax'. Also, these roads lack sidewalks. There are usually deep open drainage ditches that are cut right next to the road, so it's not as though you can pull over onto dirt. So, there often aren't those options you are assuming are there. If I'm going the limit or slightly under, and I'm in the rightmost lane (in a driving on the right side country), I'm not going to go faster and break the speed limit just because the person behind me doesn't like the speed I'm going. If the person wants to break the law and pass me, that's fine with me. Member Why? lives in the Cape Cod area. I've never been there, but I've been to almost every other area of MA. The Cape Cod area is certainly not an urban area, so I imagine the roads are similar to other bucolic areas of MA, which are similar to like areas of TX, with roads like those I've described (very different from many parts of CA....took me awhile to get used to them.).

I'd love to see what happened if you were 'continuing to tailgate with my high beams on' and both of you passed a cop.

"So, for me, it's a small car for young drivers who like to like to drive quickly around town, not a grandma car." Okaaaay. 'So, FOR ME' ...Okaaaay. As another poster pointed out about another post on this thread, this = a young me-me attitude. You will eventually learn that the world doesn't revolve around you.

"for young drivers who like to drive quickly around , not a grandma car." - This is your perspective, your opinion. Fortunately, others have different opinions. What gives your opinion more validity than that of someone else? Answer - Nothing. Fortunately the roads are governed by what we call laws, not opinions.

[nookandcrannycar]

Nicfin, I think it's due to what the others said, Alabama and most of the Southern states are full of rednecks. Even here in Indiana we have our share of them, most of them disgruntled General Motors workers who were laid off last summer when the GM Stamping Plant closed. And the local Ford Motor Co./Visteon closed also.

Another thing it could be is the people who just plain hate Japanese cars, for the above reasons. Years ago I was lined up at the Indpls Motor Speedway to get in for the first day of qualifying and I just happened to be in line behind a UAW worker with a bumper sticker that said "I'm Union and I'm Damn Proud of It". He was drunk and when he saw my Honda CRX he threw a beer bottle through my glass. It just so happened a Safety Patrol guy came by at the same time and had him arrested by the State Police.

Still, there's not a week that goes by where someone tries to run me over and they all get the finger.

When I lived in Southern California, about half the time I lived with roommates. One roommate I had was born and mostly raised in Orange County (CA) and then when he turned 16, his dad got transferred to Detroit. They moved to Rochester Hills, MI and he finished up at Rochester Adams High School (Madonna is an alum) and then went on to the University of Michigan, played Water Polo there, and later came back to Southern California. He said no one would dare show up with a foreign car and park it in the student parking lot for rear of what would happen to it. I remember thinking at the time how can the attitude of the people in a pretty prosperous area with well educated people be like that. I thought what a bunch of neanderthals. During the first year I had my Yaris, I was driving down a street in Warren, MI and was cut off in a way that I knew some of this attitude still had prevailed.

[nookandcrannycar]

Is not letting me pass worth a fight?
You are unpolite by driving slowly without letting people pass, it's normal to get the same lack of politeness from the guy behind you.

And the top drivers at work (food delivery, in yarises) are always making 40-80% more orders than some other drivers, so driving quickly isn't just a matter of seconds, but a matter of minutes which makes me gain maybe 1-2k$ extra at the end of the year. And I'm not more dangerous than anyone, I have never been close to have a responsible accident implying other cars, or at least not due to the non respect of the law. Driving fast = more focused, less distracted, less small accidents due to a lack of attention on the road.

And driving slow is boring, going fast and trying to make a way through the traffic is part of the game and the excitement, and that's whate make driving supportable. Otherwise, I'd hate driving and I'd rather take the bus (which I do when it's not much longer than car). The yaris is a great car to drive quick around town, it takes sharp turns and it makes U-turns so easilly.

You have got to be kidding me. Member why? never said what speed he was going in relation to the speed limit, nor what type of road he was talking about. If you are driving on a 2+ lanes in 1 direction street, and the slower person is not in the slow lane, then you are correct, the slower driver is being rude. If not, then you are dead wrong. When someone else is being rude, depending on the situation, it might be proper to NOT be a doormat or on the other hand it might be proper to ignore it. Someone else driving slow is an 'ignore situation' for anyone with a mature, adult attitude.

The rest of the world and other drivers aren't around to mold to the compensation structure of your company. If you are going to fast and a cop pulls you over, you will usually get a ticket. He/she is not going to care that your habits increase your pay.

"..driving slow is boring.....game and excitement.....otherwise I'd hate driving" - Immaturity, plain and simple.

Never been close to having an accident where you were responsible? - In your opinion. I wonder if other drivers who have shared the road with you would agree.

[nookandcrannycar]

Um... where to start? :eek:

:bellyroll:

[nookandcrannycar]

i don't even need to read the garbage, where did i say i don't let people pass? Where? Reading comprehension is good for you. Just pretend you have a brain in your head, and if you think really hard, you might actually turn it on.

Exactly.

[nookandcrannycar]

If you get followed, it's because you didn't let the people pass. Unless the guy following is really dumb and is staying behind you on a 2+ lanes road.

Again, you are assuming that on a one lane road, the person can always pull over. Why? didn't say what kind of road he was driving on.

[nookandcrannycar]

where on earth do you live? East timbucktoo? Do you drive on one lane roads that see 5-20 vehicles a week?

Or maybe you just got your license a few days ago and have zero idea of what you are talking about.

Here in real civilization people are jerks. They tailgate you and flash their lights at you on 4 lane highways. There is literally no road i drive on where passing is not easy, nowhere in my commute where i consistently go below the speed limit. I am always the slowest person on the road, and even when they can pass easily, people like you would rather be a jerk.

Now if you really are a child who just got your license, realize now there are people who will stop, get out of their car, and beat you to within an inch of your life if you tailgate them like you claim you do. And you have no idea which car they are in, what move they might make. I've seen people on highways choose to play demolition derby with cars because someone did something that pissed them off, you literally do not know which person you are driving near is ready to die, or who is in such a bad mood they would love to die by ramming your car.

Now someone who does what you do I slow down or stop. If they are in a bad mood they quickly get scared shitless when they see someone 6'2" and bigger than most football players step out of the vehicle, and they go around like they should. However there are people who carry guns in the vehicles. There are people in terrible moods who will grab tire irons and go after you with it. I saw a lady in a bmw stop, put her car in reverse, and smash into someone who pissed her off while she was driving ,she then got out of her car and started pounding on the other vehicle.

This isn't fantasyland, this isn't a playground. You are driving a weapon, with people around you driving weapons. It only takes one stupid error with one other person who is ready to die to change your life forever, if you are lucky enough to survive.

:clap:. Food for thought, Broody.

[nookandcrannycar]

I used to subscribe to "Pull off to the side of the road and let them pass" until some moron threw a coke bottle at my car when I did. It could have just as easily been a bullet. It is much safer if you keep rolling.

:thumbsup:

[nookandcrannycar]

Traffic is just cars in line who can't move any faster than what's in front of them.
So I drive as if I'm the person behind me. :smile:

They want to make it through the green lights just as much as I do. In traffic, I act as their lead vehicle and help to keep them moving by not lagging. And if someone needs to change lanes, I'm there to help them get to where they think they need to be, because I enjoy being treated with the same courtesy. I regard the other cars in traffic as if we are all on the same team, and I keep a lookout for little opportunities to help things to flow smoothly.

It's amazing how nicely people respond when you're helpful. :thumbsup:

:thumbsup:

[odg495]

I'm far from religious, but I think this quote from the Dalai Lama is perfect for driving:

"Do not let the behaviour of others upset your inner peace"

I find that if I just let people do their thing, and not be intimidated by them, eventually they'll leave me alone.

Once upon a time, the Australian car market was 50% big sedans, so driving a little hatch was usually a dangerous move. These days, Aussies buy many more small cars so its not such a problem.

[nookandcrannycar]

IF (a big hypothetical if) I really felt that I HAD to drive a fairly large vehicle in order to NOT get PUSHED AROUND around on the road and have my safety compromised (I don't currently feel this way), I'd probably drive an AWD Ford Flex.

[birdman]

When I lived in central Oregon there were lots of big pickups and SUV's but people rarely hassled me in my Yaris LB. Since moving to a majority Democrat community in Sonoma county the Right wing minority rednecks are really nasty about tailgating small cars and Priuses. They hate energy efficient vehicles with a passion and I get tailgated by gas guzzlers nearly every day. Mostly big American made SUV's and pickups but there is this one young guy who has a nicely kept Blazing Blue Yaris LB like mine who gets so close I have to pull off onto the shoulder every time. Could be he's got a super charger or a meth problem. There's lots of that here from what I've read in the paper. I'd have thought being this close to San Francisco people would be a bit more tolerant.

[nookandcrannycar]

When I lived in central Oregon there were lots of big pickups and SUV's but people rarely hassled me in my Yaris LB. Since moving to a majority Democrat community in Sonoma county the Right wing minority rednecks are really nasty about tailgating small cars and Priuses. They hate energy efficient vehicles with a passion and I get tailgated by gas guzzlers nearly every day. Mostly big American made SUV's and pickups but there is this one young guy who has a nicely kept Blazing Blue Yaris LB like mine who gets so close I have to pull off onto the shoulder every time. Could be he's got a super charger or a meth problem. There's lots of that here from what I've read in the paper. I'd have thought being this close to San Francisco people would be a bit more tolerant.

Many liberals in San Francisco (and in other parts of the Bay Area) expect others to be tolerant of their non mainstream views (which is fine IMO), but sometime that isn't enough. They want others to go beyond that tolerance. They want agreement, or they label others as being full of hate :rolleyes:. Good for you if you can be there and enjoy yourself. I'm a 5th Generation Bay Area native. When I moved here (to Montgomery County, TX), I planned to move back to the Bay Area after 5 years. Very soon after I moved here (I live in what some rank as the 3rd most conservative county in the U.S.), I realized I would never move back to California. I care more about what government entities are using my tax money for, policies, laws, the attitude of the citizenry, value for my dollar (re most things), and the attitude of government officials, more than I do about the weather. The people I don't understand are people who come here from California.....and then move back!
Washington has a tug on me, as well as Tennessee, Nevada, Florida, and Texas (I've spent time in every state except Alaska and Hawaii). I don't think I could live in any state other than those five.

A guy in a Ford F-250 pulled the same kind of c**p on me near Lodi, CA....passed me (almost hitting me) and then flipped me off as he was passing me. Doesn't usually happen that way here. The attitude is different re firearms :biggrin:. My cousin lives in Petaluma, CA. I'd love to see Mr. 'Blazing Blue' try to pull that kind of c**p on him. He's a retired Deputy Chief of Police (a major U.S, city) who came up through the narcotics division, an ex college level rugby player, and the son of a U.S. Marine who then spent 30 years as a fireman.

[why?]

You have a cell phone with a camera now. Take pictures, make it obvious you are taking pictures. They will stop, since nowadays that crap is actually criminal.

[nookandcrannycar]

You have a cell phone with a camera now. Take pictures, make it obvious you are taking pictures. They will stop, since nowadays that crap is actually criminal.

My reference happened in 2006 (my cell phone camera resolution at that time was either :eek: or non existent), but good point re birdman's situation :thumbsup:.

[cwk8412]

People just under estimate Yaris just because they are made from Toyota. Plus the control on Yaris is really nice compare to other cars.
Also, Yaris can be turbo charged ;) (Turbo Charge Kit made by Blitz)

[KCALB SIRAY]

People just under estimate Yaris just because they are made from Toyota. Plus the control on Yaris is really nice compare to other cars.
Also, Yaris can be turbo charged ;) (Turbo Charge Kit made by Blitz)

From my experience with Blitz, having had one on my car, Blitz only makes a supercharger kit for the Yaris.

[cwk8412]

From my experience with Blitz, having had one on my car, Blitz only makes a supercharger kit for the Yaris.
Yeah my bad, actuallly a supercharger. But there might be a turbo kit in Japan