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Hershey
03-26-2012, 02:54 PM
the 4 speed . They find many faults with it . Here's the video , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSajLpzpQ2Y&feature=relmfu . Enjoy :wink:

Kioshi
03-26-2012, 03:03 PM
who believes in that stuff anyway?

Real world driver experience (like poeple on here)...THATS what counts..

Chocobo87
03-26-2012, 03:04 PM
I love my car, so that's all that matters to me lol.

I could careless what people say ^_^

skuzzlebutt5
03-26-2012, 03:38 PM
Weird, I paid 17,500 out the door for my SE. Maybe they should have tested that...

Chuck G
03-26-2012, 03:47 PM
Wow! that's a terrible review.
Worst one yet! (didn't hold back did they?)

mr9865
03-26-2012, 06:33 PM
It's a great car for the price I paid $14k

jpmck03
03-26-2012, 06:50 PM
Like I'm supposed to believe a review from some jack@ss that doesn't even know how to pronounce the name of the car...

The Toyota "Yeahriss"?

What a horrible review too... The steering wheel is too far back, yet the pedals are too close? So which is it, you sit too far back or forward?

I could go on and on... :thumbdown:

12 yaris
03-26-2012, 07:07 PM
Let's put it this way,I own one,I'm here,I love it,& I DO NOT give a rats ass
what a bunch of independent slide rules say.

landrym28
03-26-2012, 07:22 PM
There was a car review? I went to their YouTube page and watched a video on how to properly fit in a bra...now THAT'S good viewing material. :biggrin:

DJYojimbo
03-26-2012, 07:42 PM
Toyota didn't give him the complimentary key chain hehe!

12 yaris
03-26-2012, 07:45 PM
Or a toaster

Altitude
03-26-2012, 08:08 PM
Someone should tell him it doesn't rhyme with Paris.

Killchain
03-26-2012, 10:35 PM
the 4 speed . They find many faults with it . Here's the video , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSajLpzpQ2Y&feature=relmfu . Enjoy :wink:

CR,be hatin.................

Gogogordy
03-26-2012, 11:25 PM
what's the difference? :laugh:

I've been reading automotive reviews for years, and this reviewer is at the bottom of the food chain....sounds like he's got a hard-on (can I say that on the 'net?) for Toyota's Yeris/Yaris, because his review is far from objective.

Give me a made in Japan Yaris over a stateside Corolla any day.

How do you spell "doosh?"

Spidermandud
03-27-2012, 01:19 AM
what's the difference? :laugh:

I've been reading automotive reviews for years, and this reviewer is at the bottom of the food chain....sounds like he's got a hard-on (can I say that on the 'net?) for Toyota's Yeris/Yaris, because his review is far from objective.

Give me a made in Japan Yaris over a stateside Corolla any day.

How do you spell "doosh?"

douche

lomky
03-27-2012, 03:36 AM
If I'm being honest though, I have had my 2012 for a couple of weeks. I traded in my leased 2007. And there is alot more things I miss in my 2007 than I like in the 2012. It seems like Toyota really cheaped out on some things. Such as an interior light for the back seat. My 2007 had one. I really miss the storage spots in my 2007. Don't really like where the cup holders are in the 2012, but the ones in the 2007 dash made a real mess! They got rid of the nicer spare tire cover, and also the storage compartments where the spare tire sits. I find the seats VERY uncomfortable. I'm not a big guy but the hard foam on the edges really hurts my hips. I do like a few things in the new one. The standard keyless entry, the additional air bags are probably great, but I hope to never find out. And I do like the extra length and the exterior styling, I don't like the bit of chrome on the dash though. But I do like the button for the hatch. Hopefully it won't freeze up like my '07 did.

Just one guys opinion.

shinlee
03-27-2012, 05:12 AM
AAAHHHH!!! I want to kill him every time he says "yAIRis"! it's "yAHris" unless I'm the retard saying it wrong! ugh

junorico24
03-27-2012, 05:46 AM
This car reviewers was accurate about the 2007-2011 could be true about the 3rd gen.But i don't own one so i'm not sure!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5NlyN4Qzks

Gogogordy
03-27-2012, 10:54 AM
This car reviewers was accurate about the 2007-2011 could be true about the 3rd gen.But i don't own one so i'm not sure!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5NlyN4Qzks


He was less edgier and more objective back then!

But his expectations from the least expensive of Toyotas cars are flawed.

You can't expect padded everything, sport tuned suspension, multi adjustable seats, and other "more expensive to build" features, in a low priced unit....thats how they get the price low!

For me, Ill take fewer bells and whistles, in exchange for legendary durability and quality. Thats why I bought the Yaris.

For the record, we have a Scion xD. Exemplary car, and maybe a better value...but neither of them aren't without their individual merits.

CanIHazYarisHatch?
03-27-2012, 02:50 PM
He was less edgier and more objective back then!

But his expectations from the least expensive of Toyotas cars are flawed.

You can't expect padded everything, sport tuned suspension, multi adjustable seats, and other "more expensive to build" features, in a low priced unit....thats how they get the price low!

For me, Ill take fewer bells and whistles, in exchange for legendary durability and quality. Thats why I bought the Yaris.

For the record, we have a Scion xD. Exemplary car, and maybe a better value...but neither of them aren't without their individual merits.

I have to agree. Durability is so under-rated.

broody
03-27-2012, 07:08 PM
Like I'm supposed to believe a review from some jack@ss that doesn't even know how to pronounce the name of the car...

The Toyota "Yeahriss"?

What a horrible review too... The steering wheel is too far back, yet the pedals are too close? So which is it, you sit too far back or forward?

I could go on and on... :thumbdown:

I have to agree that the steering is too far for me. I'm tall, and I appreciate the extra legroom and better driving position compared to the older yaris, but the steering is a bit far and it should be telescopic or closer.

MUSKOKA800
03-27-2012, 07:37 PM
Someone should tell him it doesn't rhyme with Paris.

Actually it does. At least it does in Toyota Canada's TV ad campaign.
Maybe we've had it wrong all along???????:frown:

Altitude
03-27-2012, 08:03 PM
Actually it does. At least it does in Toyota Canada's TV ad campaign.
Maybe we've had it wrong all along???????:frown:

Yeah - there's a post around here that references Toyota's own comments about the origins of the name.

Don't the Canadian's call it the Yaris-eh? :wink:

skuzzlebutt5
03-28-2012, 01:16 AM
http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=739

Eat that consumer reports... At least its got GOOD crash rating!

BluYrs
03-28-2012, 05:49 AM
The price issue CR has with the Yaris reminds me of the Citroen case here in Europe.

Citroen sells a variety of cars from electric cars through subcompact to middle class, SUV and MPVs. They are mostly very aggressively priced as new- either though massive discounts or near-interest-free financing. This means that the market is overflooded with Citroens, which are 3-5 years old and cost very little compared to other similar vehicles.

How can Citroen pull this off and still make any money? The key word is servicing. Typically, owners of near-new cars (up to, say, five years) opt for dealer services and also bring their cars to the dealer to have repairs made (which they, by all means, could have done at another place). As it also happens, Citroens aren't the most reliable cars, to put it mildly. Along with regular services, Citroen owners will thus have to have some repairs done.

So Citroen knows that they can sell their cars for even a loss, but they'll make up for it via servicing. This, however, is something that Toyota cannot do. For obvious reasons :)

CanIHazYarisHatch?
03-28-2012, 06:46 AM
The price issue CR has with the Yaris reminds me of the Citroen case here in Europe.

Citroen sells a variety of cars from electric cars through subcompact to middle class, SUV and MPVs. They are mostly very aggressively priced as new- either though massive discounts or near-interest-free financing. This means that the market is overflooded with Citroens, which are 3-5 years old and cost very little compared to other similar vehicles.

How can Citroen pull this off and still make any money? The key word is servicing. Typically, owners of near-new cars (up to, say, five years) opt for dealer services and also bring their cars to the dealer to have repairs made (which they, by all means, could have done at another place). As it also happens, Citroens aren't the most reliable cars, to put it mildly. Along with regular services, Citroen owners will thus have to have some repairs done.

So Citroen knows that they can sell their cars for even a loss, but they'll make up for it via servicing. This, however, is something that Toyota cannot do. For obvious reasons :)

Even the Citroen C1, the kissing cousin of the Toyota Aygo is unreliable?

Me likey some 1.0 3-cylinder 1KR-FE goodness...:biggrin:

YarYarBinks
03-29-2012, 12:32 AM
If I dressed and looked like him I'd probably sit in a car like I have a giant stick up my ass like him. The yaris is a great car and tbh the corolla is not all that great. If I wanted a sedan I'd buy a damn sedan. D***bag. That guy probably drives a **** not a car.

BluYrs
03-29-2012, 02:24 AM
Even the Citroen C1, the kissing cousin of the Toyota Aygo is unreliable?

Me likey some 1.0 3-cylinder 1KR-FE goodness...:biggrin:

I've got a 1KR-FE in my Yaris :thumbup:

But as for the C1- somewhat amazingly, yes. Well, it's less reliable than the Aygo- albeit being built in the same factory by the same people. The Peugeot 107 is worse still.

Check out these reliability ratings based German technical inspection data (TÜV): http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2011-2-3/298

CanIHazYarisHatch?
03-29-2012, 05:05 AM
I've got a 1KR-FE in my Yaris :thumbup:

But as for the C1- somewhat amazingly, yes. Well, it's less reliable than the Aygo- albeit being built in the same factory by the same people. The Peugeot 107 is worse still.

Check out these reliability ratings based German technical inspection data (TÜV): http://www.anusedcar.com/index.php/tuv-report-year-age/2011-2-3/298

I'm jealous of your engine variety.

Puzzling that essentially the same car has different reliability ratings...

GnomeBody
03-29-2012, 03:18 PM
Not sure what changed between the 2012 and my 2007, but after hearing that review, it makes me wonder.

I love my 07, Only things I griped about was the body roll in turns (fixed with coilovers and rear sway bar) and the fact I cant really adjust the stearing wheel. Im pretty short so Ive never had a problem with the petal positions or seats.

It made me laugh a little when he said something about the engine being noisy, I never hear it unless Im stomping on the gas like a mad man.

I never understand why people reviewing it complain about the engine power either. More than enough power for my 30min city commutes to and from work. I think the problem is the reviewers are used to cars that use less than 1/5th of the gas petals travel to handle 99% of normal driving scenarios, and the remaining 4/5ths for the last 1% (like trying to hit 88mph before they run out of parking lot)

The yaris is a little more like up to 2/3rds for things less than 60mph and the remaining 1/3rd for interstate merging or passing. Granted you not going to set any landspeed records, but that shouldnt really be your goal.

IMO the yaris should really only be serioulys judeged in three catagories:

Fuel efficiency
Durability\reliability
Cost (upfront price and operational costs)

anything more should count as bonus points

broody
03-29-2012, 08:57 PM
The 2012 drives the exact same as a 2006, but with better seats. The steering is still too far though, and apparently everyone think it's too far (tall and short people)...

I don't find the body roll to be an issue in the yaris, it's tuned for comfort more than racing, but you can still push quite hard. For DD, I prefere the suspension tuning of the yaris over the one of the fit or the echo hatchback (Canada) for example.

however, it's not because the yaris is an econobox that we should accept anything. cheap cars can be roomy, cute, comfortable and quiet. These things don't cost a fortune. And the yaris could be even more fuel efficient, with the 1.3l engine (with a 6 speed transmission).