Yokohama Avid Ascend low rolling resistant tires ..

[Hershey]

http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/detail/avid_ascend . Considering these for the '11 Fit which are 175/65-15 same size as the 2012 Yaris . They're also available for the '07 > '11 Yaris . Review of them at About.com , http://tires.about.com/od/Tire_Reviews/fr/Review-Yokohama-Avid-Ascend.htm . Here is what a few others are experiencing with them , http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii-2010-prius-fuel-economy/105546-yokohama-avid-ascent-review.html and http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2564841&page=2 ( bottom page 2 ) . Can get these for $120 each . Price includes mounting , balancing , and free rotation for life of tires .

[why?]

why do i think that sounds expensive? I love my yokohama tires.

[thepartsmancometh]

I list the 175/65r15 for $105 ea through ford. This is for article # 32330. These tires are supposed to be pretty good, but I haven't put any on yet, so no firsthand knowledge. I wouldn't think they would be hard to find in the $95 range

[why?]

no 14" sizes. oh well, i'll have to see if any of the other eco tires have 14' sizes. has anyone seen any reports that these types of tires really help gas mileage?

[sickpuppy1]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+Ascend+%28T%29&partnum=765TR5ASC&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2011&autoModel=Fit&autoModClar=Base
Mounting and lifetime balance for 11.50 at walmart

[fnkngrv]

Interesting that they have a V rated version for what they are.

[09sedan]

wats better, the new Ascend , the avid TRZ or the touring S? which one would last the longest?

[Hershey]

Tread starts at 12/32s . Think it's a 5year / 85,000 mile warranty and is T rated .

[thepartsmancometh]

wats better, the new Ascend , the avid TRZ or the touring S? which one would last the longest?

The ascend is going to be replacing the TRZ in most sizes. The TRZ hasn't been phased out yet, but it will be per our contacts at Yokohama. The TRZ is rated for 80k, the Touring-s for 65k. ALWAYS take all tire tread warranties with a grain of salt. seriously. The tire company can't control how you drive, or road conditions, so its tough for them to get EVERY SINGLE tire to last that long!

I haven't sold or installed any ascends yet, but the TRZ has always been a fantastic tire (especially for the price point). The touring-s is a decent fitment on our little cars, but I stay away from it on anything much larger. The sidewalls seem a wee bit "soft" and we see iffy wear on heavier vehicles; the softness can also be felt around corners as the tire "rolls." That being said, the TRZ and Touring-s I have sold 1.56 billion of (estimated :tongue:), with very few problems. Like with any other tire, fitment and application are KEY. The right tire for the right application.

As we see the ascend be more common I will comment about their construction, etc. but I assume that, being a Yokohama, they will be pretty good.

[thepartsmancometh]

Interesting that they have a V rated version for what they are.

A lot of manufacturers are moving this direction. Many newer cars (even small ones!) are designed with higher speed rated tires when they setup the suspension. The speed rating is not just an indication of the sustained speed a tire can handle, it also represents the relative stiffness of that tire. The tires actually act as an additional spring in the suspension, so engineers have to design the suspension with a certain stiffness of tire in mind. If you go get a new 4 cyl camry (SPEED DEMON! :evil: ....not) it will most likely have v rated tires on it not because it can go that fast (yea right), but because the car needs that tire to have the suspension act correctly. If you got put an s-rated tire on that same camry it will
a) wear the tires very poorly
and
b) seem very soft and squishy, including response around corners. Its like the first time you put soft winter rubber on your car instead of fancy summer tires.

[toad]

i've had both the trz and touring-s on our yarii and liked them both, however, the trz had an abnormally large center channel that would get rocks stuck in all the time. it drove me nuts hearing the little 'clicks' at low speeds constantly!

[Hershey]

Here's a review of the Ascends posted yesterday from an owner of a Subaru Outback . http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/90-tire-discussion/43932-yokohama-avid-ascend.html . Likes them alot .

[thepartsmancometh]

i've had both the trz and touring-s on our yarii and liked them both, however, the trz had an abnormally large center channel that would get rocks stuck in all the time. it drove me nuts hearing the little 'clicks' at low speeds constantly!

true, we've had a few people gripe about this. The overall quality (and price point) of the tire seems to override this issue for most folks, but I had one guy INSIST on a different tire because of this. It's OK, just sold him Michelin Harmony instead :tongue:.

[malibuguy]

Ive been curious about these tires as well. Ill be needing tires aoon and cannot decide to stay stock or go up to 16s...

Ive been eyeing up the toyo extensa...great price and seems to have a decent blend performance and rolling resistance

[Hershey]

We noticed the TOYO Versado Eco tires as well . http://toyotires.com/tire/pattern/versado-eco-all-season-tires . The 175/65-15 start at 9/32s . All others begin with 10/32s .

[33OH]

Depending on the treadwear, it really doesn't matter how much tread you start with. Kind of like bragging about having a bigger gas tank but getting less MPG's. :)

And I can get you those Yokohama Avid Ascend's for MUCH cheaper than $120 each.

[Hershey]

The Ascends are $93 each before tax . The $120 each includes mount and balance of each tire . Been calling around and the $93 is the best thus far . One quoted $118 , not including the mount / balance . Leaning towards the Bridgestone Ecopia 422 at $81 each and a $70 American Express card from Bridgestone that would cover the mount and balance of 4 tires . This offer expires 4/29/12 .

[33OH]

Ah didn't realize you were including mount/balance, was going to say - at $120 each for Ascends you're paying well over retail for those.

I think the Ecopia's are a great deal - especially with the $70 gift card that Bridgestone is offering.

That's also a great price at $81 each - actually beats my wholesale price directly from Bridgestone themselves. (I'm at $91.50 each retail on that tire.) Will have to call them about that. :)

[thepartsmancometh]

Ford is currently running a $100 rebate on several brands (including yokohama); you don't have to have a ford to qualify. Might be worth checking (not sure if this is valid outside my region or not)

[Hershey]

Thanks . Will call a few Ford parts departments .

[09sedan]

just found 4 brand new Avid TRZ total is 470$ Canadian including installation/balancing etc.

[Hershey]

Called a Ford parts department on the Ascend . Price is $97 each . So , $25 off for each tire makes them $72 . Not bad . The $100 discount ends May 31st . The Bridgestone are not included .

[Hershey]

Here's some recent reviews from Tirerack . Most are satisfied . http://www.tirerack.com/survey/SurveyComments.jsp?additionalComments=Y&commentStatus=P&tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+Ascend+%28H%26V%29 and http://blog.tirerack.com/blog/tire-rack-consumer-reviews/tire-rack-consumer-review-of-the-yokohama-avid-ascend-hv . Might go with these next month if the good reviews keep a comin' .