Audio installation based on DerickVeliz and SQcomp!

[packetrace]

Hi everyone,

I had already started a thread like one year ago but it was a very basic install

Now i will do it much better....I base it on SQcomp and DerickVeliz install...they are very nice guy and always ready to help...

Until now i have ordered

37.5sqft of MAT from RAAMaudio (http://www.raamaudio.com)
42 sqft of Peel and stick from the same place
Hybrid Audio Technologies tweeter L1Version2 from soundsolution

I plan to buy

Hertz audio midrange driver HL-70
HAT L6 for midbass
Powerbass ASA 700.5X 5 channel...4x50W RMS and 1x200W RMS
HU with 3 RCA ouput and crossover OR HU with active filter:thumbup:

Other sound deadending product from DON at http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/cgi-bin/index.cgi

CLD TILES, CCF and MLV for floor

Extruded butyl rope for inside the doors
Velcro for CCFoam

And for the Subwoofer I haven't planned anything yet....I am open to suggestion...:iono:

[sqcomp]

The sub(s) ....

Where do you want to place the woofer(s)?

[packetrace]

Actually I have read the whole thread of Derick....I think you have come to the conclusion that is it better to place them at the front...

But I would like to get them in the trunk since we are almost always 2 in the car...

Mid and tweet will go in A-Pillar
Midbass will go in front door
Bass would fo in trunk......what do you think ?

[packetrace]

I have a question for you...

I will probably go for passive system...

So I will have this

A mono amplifier for SUB

A 2 channel for MID BASS

A 2 channel for MID RANGE AND TWEETER......HERE IS MY QUESTION!!

If the channel can drive 100W RMS and if I use passive xover..does it mean the tweeter will have 50W and the MID RANGE will have 50W too ?:iono:

[derickveliz2]

I have a question for you...



A 2 channel for MID RANGE AND TWEETER......HERE IS MY QUESTION!!

If the channel can drive 100W RMS and if I use passive xover..does it mean the tweeter will have 50W and the MID RANGE will have 50W too ?:iono:

Sorry, I really don't know how to answer that, my guess is depending on the x-overs design that's how the power will be delivered, and that the speaker produces lower notes will end up with more power than the tweeter itself.


D.

[derickveliz2]

Like I told you off-line we can trade/sell my a-pillars with the Mids in there, just plug your tweeter and you are all set, I know you don't want to spend that much money there either.

I may end up selling my 5 channel amp too. (just a heads up)

Talking about designing a system, the difference in control by going active or passive is day and night, also other part of the equation in your design is thinking about a head unit or a component like a Bit one by audison that gives you Time Alignment, EQ and many other fancy stuff. I can swear by Time Alignment it's some thing that I just can't live without!

Just my 2 cts.

D.

[derickveliz2]

Actually I have read the whole thread of Derick....I think you have come to the conclusion that is it better to place them at the front...

But I would like to get them in the trunk since we are almost always 2 in the car...

Mid and tweet will go in A-Pillar
Midbass will go in front door
Bass would fo in trunk......what do you think ?


I think you are better of with the sub in the trunk, unless you want to go through all the process of building a complex enclosure that ends up with a funny shape. Even though the I6SW it's amazing after all the hard work.

Also, T/A helps a lot blending and centering the image in the center of the car. For many weeks I could tell that the boom boom was coming slightly from the right and not the center, Time Alignment was a key factor to get it right in the center.

I know this is an expensive hobby, but if you really want the beauty of the Music, you need to have" Active x-overs, Time Alignment, Digital EQ, at least.

others can add their own opinions I'm not a pro, I did learn a lot from my trail and errors in my build, but if I had to do it again, it wouldn't be much different from now, than just more expensive amps, and maybe using all Hybrid-audio gear to be consistent.

We are here to help.

D.

[packetrace]

Thank you very much Derick!

I think I will start with passive for the moment....and maybe I will switch to active when I get more money haha

Could you make a sketch for me and correct me if I am wrong..

I will buy a HU with 3 or 4 output ? (I want my HU to go directly to AMP, no audiocontrol...)

Does the tweeter and midrange goes on same channel with xover ?

How much power you put into l1v2 ?

sorry for all my naive question :S

[WeeYari]

Just spotted these on Kijiji.

Fair bit away from Quebec, but maybe some inspiration for you.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-audio-GPS-Custom-Fabricated-Subwoofer-Enclosures-for-Toyota-Yaris-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ365426433

[packetrace]

Just spotted these on Kijiji.

Fair bit away from Quebec, but maybe some inspiration for you.

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-audio-GPS-Custom-Fabricated-Subwoofer-Enclosures-for-Toyota-Yaris-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ365426433

They are really nice!!! I would really like to get some thing like this!!!

They are much too far frome me but..it gives me a lot of idea:thumbup:

[packetrace]

FYI

I order a PowerBass ASA 1100.5x!!!

Its the same then Derick uses...

It got 5 channel

SQCOMP and DERICK CAN YOU CORRECT ME....

Channel 1-2 goes to passive crossover and cross over goes to tweeter and midrange

Channel 3-4 goes to midbass

Channel 5 goes to sub

is it corect ??:iono:

That would be for a passive setup...

Later on I will change for active with a very nice HU like P99 but its not for now...

[packetrace]

I just ordered this..

Stinger distribution block
Stinger 6 channel RCA 17'
Stinger amp wiring kit

[packetrace]

I am looking at these...MINIDSP (http://www.minidsp.com/)

Its a member on DIYMA that suggested me to go for these...you set the filter with an app on the computer...

It would be a nice passive setup...that I can change the filter if I want to...

SQCOMP I am waiting the quote for the L3 and the HL-70...I am ready to buy :)

When I get the L3 I plug the L1 and L3 on the Powerbass amp...Then I will look at the sub and pick up one...At that moment it will be a 2way + sub...will only be missing midbass and its amp!

[derickveliz2]

CAPS ARE MINE...

Thank you very much Derick!
YOU ARE WELCOME


I think I will start with passive for the moment....and maybe I will switch to active when I get more money haha
I WOULD JUST GO SLOWLY ACTIVE.

Could you make a sketch for me and correct me if I am wrong..
DO YOU STILL NEED THIS?

I will buy a HU with 3 or 4 output ? (I want my HU to go directly to AMP, no audiocontrol...) THERE IS A SMALL VERSION (NEW) OF THE P99 THAT COMES READY FOR FRONT STAGE.

Does the tweeter and midrange goes on same channel with xover ? YES

How much power you put into l1v2 ? 75 WATTS

sorry for all my naive question :S
NO PROBLEM



D.

[derickveliz2]

SQCOMP and DERICK CAN YOU CORRECT ME....

is it corect ??:iono:



Channel 1-2 goes to passive crossover and cross over goes to tweeter and midrange YES

Channel 3-4 goes to midbass YES (MID OR MIDBASS = 3" SPEAKER OR 6.5" SPEAKER)

Channel 5 goes to sub YES

D.

[packetrace]

Thank you again Derick! :D

Here is the Schema I have in my head...:w00t:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/SCHEMA.png

What do you think ? :thumbup:

And some when I will go active with a P99 and put the mini DSP in the closet!:wink:

[derickveliz2]

I will go active with a P99 and put the mini DSP in the closet!:wink:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/COLOR]

Looks to me that using the mini DSP is going active, passive crossovers go after the amp before speakers.

The diagram looks good, I watched the video for the mini DSP and even I know what they are talking about looked so complicated, it had no audio?, then I downloaded the manual and the same, I maybe sleepy but it feels too much for me, but at the same time interesting. and at $125 bucks each!

There is some thing about the P99 that makes all adjustments so easily and on demand, driving at any time.

any way here are some samples of passive x-overs:

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/51093348/Passive_Crossover_for_Car_HIFI_.jpg

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/779/layouthi0.jpg

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_1/images/car-audio-layout-2.jpg

D.

[packetrace]

I may be buying one to see what I could do with it...it's not that expensive...

You made me realize that it is an active setup that I would build....well that will be better...where was I...its obvious that it is active:laugh:

How much is rated the P99 ?

I have read a lot on it and I dream of having it in my car but I know it is out of my budget....It looks so easy to adjust all the settings...and as you says it..ON DEMAND :thumbsup:

WHat is the small model that you have been talking about ? ready for front stage ?

Front stage is TWEETER, MIDRANGE, MID BASS ?

?

[sqcomp]

What do you mean "How much is rated the P99?"

Are you asking about the power output of the source? If that's the case, the deck itself does not put out any Wattage...it's a tuner. My P-01 comes with a little 6 channel amplifier...It's a feature on the JDM P-01.

[packetrace]

I meant the price :)

[packetrace]

And what is the small model of the p99?

Derick said it is ready for front stage..

[derickveliz2]

I may be buying one to see what I could do with it...it's not that expensive...

You made me realize that it is an active setup that I would build....well that will be better...where was I...its obvious that it is active:laugh:

How much is rated the P99 ?

I have read a lot on it and I dream of having it in my car but I know it is out of my budget....It looks so easy to adjust all the settings...and as you says it..ON DEMAND :thumbsup:

WHat is the small model that you have been talking about ? ready for front stage ?

Front stage is TWEETER, MIDRANGE, MID BASS ?

?


* Front stage can be accomplish with 1 set of speakers, 2, 3 or 4, Front stage means you build a 3Dimentional virtual stage in front of you. At least that's how I visualize it. There are better ways to explain, but don't think a pair of Tweeters, Mids and Midbass it's a front stage.


http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/Car/DEH-80PRS_reg.jpg

Around $400 for the DEH-80PRS LINK 1 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/CD-Receivers/DEH-80PRS)

P99RS is about 3 times that! LINK 2 (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Car/Stage4/Receivers/DEX-P99RS)

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/PUSA/Images/Product%20Images/DEX-P99RS_reg.jpg



D.

[packetrace]

But the 80PRS is 2 way + sub...how to make it 3 way + sub...with my dsp ??

[derickveliz2]

But the 80PRS is 2 way + sub...how to make it 3 way + sub...with my dsp ??

1 for sub
1 for lows
1 for Mids + Tweeter with passive x-over or use one of the MINIDSPs

if you don't like that go for the P99

there are other options too, that's not the end of the world.


D.

[packetrace]

That sounds interesting!!

I am very interested in the P-99 but its too much for my budget even the 80-PRS is a bit high but the money is worth it!

[derickveliz2]

If you keep Mids and Tweeters close together passive x-over works ok, but if you do like me and Sqcomp Mids are far away from tweeters, then you need to go active.

D.

[packetrace]

But your mids are in the a pillar mear to your tweeter as i know ?

[derickveliz2]

But your mids are in the a pillar mear to your tweeter as i know ?

No, we have Mids down in kick area.

D.

[packetrace]

Ohhh...they are no more in you a-pillar you had build ? I have missed a part of your build so...but for me they are reallly going to be in the a-pillar...

Probably going to de 80PRS with 1 Mini-DSP

BTW I received my L1V2:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

They are so beautiful!! Can't wait to start my a-pillar...I will order L3 this week!

Waiting to get price from SQcomp and compare from a dealer in Canada...

[sqcomp]

I shot you and e-mail or PM with pricing...

[packetrace]

The last PM says that you may get better price then Canada dealer...and you asked me to tell you when I was ready so you can start the process of sale...I had answered that I was ready...and you did not answered me...:iono:

may be there has been a bug with the server...:thumbdown:

could you please send it back :biggrin:

[packetrace]

Just ordered one miniDSP!

[packetrace]

:thumbup::thumbup:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/Tweeter.jpg

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/Tweeter2.jpg

I know Derick and SQcomp have already played with them but for anyother...here is the picture of my Tweeter from Hybrid Audio Technologies!

Can't wait to fire them up!!!

[derickveliz2]

Ohhh...they are no more in you a-pillar you had build ? I have missed a part of your build so...but for me they are reallly going to be in the a-pillar...

Probably going to de 80PRS with 1 Mini-DSP

BTW I received my L1V2:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

They are so beautiful!! Can't wait to start my a-pillar...I will order L3 this week!

Waiting to get price from SQcomp and compare from a dealer in Canada...

Post 1879... shows my system as of today (the TA is different though), When I realized that taking advantage of the PLDs
in favor of my stage the answer was more clever than ever, Mids would go down in the kick area.

That's why I offered trade+sell my a-pillars with HL-70s,

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/Front%20Stage/PLDDRVapril62012.png

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/A-Pillars%20v2/ecdcf9bf.jpg

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/A-Pillars%20v2/ec22c53b.jpg

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/A-Pillars%20v2/c87e8f40.jpg

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/A-Pillars%20v2/3e6876b9.jpg





It would be very interesting to see how the MINIDSP works from the "End User" side, also the 80PRS versatility.

Congratulations on your new Tweeters! they are awesome, just don't play them lower than 3.2kHz at 24. Mine are playing from 10kHz.

For the a-pillar build remember to start with a very solid baffle,


http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/A-Pillars%20v2/1d753fe2.jpg



D.


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[packetrace]

For the a-pillar build remember to start with a very solid baffle,

D.
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Sorry what means baffle ?:confused:

I can't wait to setup the mini dsp!

After I buy the L3V2...I'll start the A-pillar process...ans done I start the subwoofer fiberglassing in the trunk...and then I will be ordering the DEH-80PRS....just to give my bank account a break :laugh:

[packetrace]

Any suggestion for a subwoofer ? at about 500W RMS....? I had tought of the IDQ12V3D4...but it is backorder on sonicelectronix...

[derickveliz2]

Baffle is the MDF ring you use to hold the speakers.



OK, this is my best shot, this would be my best advice from my experience and it's written in my thread some where.


:thumbup:
If you go with the 80PRS, the Tweeters on a-pillars, woofer in the trunk and (pay attention here) get the L6 (Midbass) and put them on the doors I assure you will sound much better than the Mids on the a-pillars, I've gone through a big process of comparing and if I where you I would go that way.

PLDs would be in your favor, you will be full active, enjoy the extra width of the stage provided by the L6s down in the doors, since the L6 can play up to 5khz really nice and your tweeters can go down to 5 easily. I do this exercise many times to show how good the L6s are and turn of my Mids, believe me it's true.
:thumbup:



D.

[packetrace]

So you would suggest me to wait for the L3 and buy the L6 right now...and be 2-way + sub FULL ACTIVE ?:biggrin:

[derickveliz2]

Any suggestion for a subwoofer ? at about 500W RMS....? I had tought of the IDQ12V3D4...but it is backorder on sonicelectronix...

How much to do you want to spend on the woofer, bend my arm and I may sell my IDQ

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/891ab6c2.jpg

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/IDQ/03ed2863.jpg


D.

[packetrace]

Shipping will be expensive to Canada since it is probably very heavy...

is it the IDQ12V3D4 ?

I had expected 249.99 + shipping as it is on sonicelectronix...

PM me with your price...I am interested....

[derickveliz2]

So you would suggest me to wait for the L3 and buy the L6 right now...and be 2-way + sub FULL ACTIVE ?:biggrin:

Yes and no,

My point is that going this way it will have a better stage than 3 way with Mids in a-pillars,

In seconds I can turn off my mids and have a 2 way, it's not as spectacular as the 3 way for obvious reasons (PLDs) but sounds better than my old 3 way with Mids in a-pillars.

my 2cts

D.

[packetrace]

Do you have pics of your mids and kick area as it is right now ?:biggrin:

[derickveliz2]

Post # 1794

http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/L6/de4b787b.jpg

D.

[packetrace]

Are you going to fiberglass a kickpanel for the mids ?

And 2 questions..you relocated all the wires ? and you no more uses the parts that was covering this area ?

[derickveliz2]

Are you going to fiberglass a kickpanel for the mids ?

And 2 questions..you relocated all the wires ? and you no more uses the parts that was covering this area ?

No I did not, and I'm not.

Yes, I extended the ground and move them a little up under the dash on both sides.
I may modify the covering in the future with a big opening but right now I have to finish other stuff.

D.

[packetrace]

I just took a look at this part of your thread....WOW!! very nice what sqcomp have done with his doors and kickpanel!

That gives me a lot of idea....I'll do like you told me...start with tweeter in a-pillar and L6 in doors!...when I'll be good at fiberglassing I'll kickpanel mids!

You guys are awesomeee:thumbsup::thumbsup:

[packetrace]

I am very tempted to go for the DEH-80PRS....I found it at 281.95 + 26 $ shipping...!!!!

[derickveliz2]

I am very tempted to go for the DEH-80PRS....I found it at 281.95 + 26 $ shipping...!!!!

where?

D.

[packetrace]

HERE (http://www.audio-warehouse.com/web/mdl/DEH80PRS/detail.asp)

CLick on add to cart and it is 281.95!

[packetrace]

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/b5b75bb2.jpg

What material is the gray piece made of ?:confused:

I am so curious..asking lot of question...sorry :frown:

[derickveliz2]

What material is the gray piece made of ?:confused:

I am so curious..asking lot of question...sorry :frown:


No problem! (O:

That is a Mock-up I made (from foam board) before cutting the MDF baffles.

D.

[packetrace]

No problem! (O:

That is a Mock-up I made (from foam board) before cutting the MDF baffles.

D.

So your final install is MDF baffle that you have screwed to the body ?

And do you think I should jump on the DEH-80PRS ? :iono:

[derickveliz2]

So your final install is MDF baffle that you have screwed to the body ?

And do you think I should jump on the DEH-80PRS ? :iono:

screwed and sealed to create an IB, I cut the metal inside the a-frame to fit the Mid.

on a budget I think a 2 way active the Yaris sounds great!

D.

[packetrace]

So if I resume...

L1V1 in A-Pillar as tweeter 5Khz and up
L6 in door as mid-range-midbass..100Hz up to 5kHz
Sub in trunk or some where else...100Hz and less

Powerbass 1100.5X 5channel amp for the whole setup..

Fiberglassing the trunk for sub...fiberglassing A-pillar for tweeter...fiberglassing doors for Mids!:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Pionner DEH-80PRS in the deck :biggrin::biggrin:

[packetrace]

Just order this!!!!!:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: Things are going so fast :laugh:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/DEH-80PRS_reg.jpg

[packetrace]

Just ordered

Stinger roller
Stinger Overkill dampening material....24sq-ft...
MDF 12'' ring
60oz Polyester Fiber fill:thumbsup:

[sqcomp]

Get on it! Good man. Come to Derick and I for any help you need.

[packetrace]

Get on it! Good man. Come to Derick and I for any help you need.

Thank yoU!!:biggrin:

So far I ordered..

DEH-80PRS, L1V2, Powerbass1100.5X, MAT and ENSOLITE, Stinger OVERKILL, Stinger power distribution block, Stinger RCA 6CH, Stinger 4ga amplifier wiring kit, MiniDSP which I won't need any more(well maybe one day), Stinger voltmeter blue display, 12'' MDF ring, :biggrin:

I need : IDQ12V3D4 from Derick, L6V2 from sound solution, Big three cable, fiberglass material, Dash MAT(waiting for samples), more dampening material, MANY advices from both of you:biggrin:

[packetrace]

Yaris is being window tinted at the moment!

[derickveliz2]

Yaris is being window tinted at the moment!

The other night (around mid night) after the toll a police officer pulls me over, and asked me if I new why? I told him "no I have no idea officer"

officer "because the tint in your windows"

me "there is nothing wrong, it's legal in the state of Massachusetts to tint windows at 35%"

officer "yeah but did you install them?"

me "No, I had a professional do it"

officer "probably because of the dirt they look darker" "do you drink?"

me "Just water"

officer "it's ok if I run your ID into the system?"

me "please do so"

after 2 or 3 minutes...

officer "drive safely"

me "thank you"


I never had a speeding ticket or any other infraction since I was 16, hey that's more than 20 years!

D.

[sqcomp]

Ol boy was searching for something to nail you on based on something you said. Great move D!

[packetrace]

Gonna have my new wheels and tire installed tomorrow :D

Maybe some new springs to lower it !!

Gonna paint calipers too :)

Any suggest ? :)

[packetrace]

The other night (around mid night) after the toll a police officer pulls me over, and asked me if I new why? I told him "no I have no idea officer"

officer "because the tint in your windows"

me "there is nothing wrong, it's legal in the state of Massachusetts to tint windows at 35%"

officer "yeah but did you install them?"

me "No, I had a professional do it"

officer "probably because of the dirt they look darker" "do you drink?"

me "Just water"

officer "it's ok if I run your ID into the system?"

me "please do so"

after 2 or 3 minutes...

officer "drive safely"

me "thank you"


I never had a speeding ticket or any other infraction since I was 16, hey that's more than 20 years!

D.


I am going to get arrested for sure...here in Quebec they are always looking at that...I tinted it at 20% for the passenger and driver window...it is legal only at around 50-70%...BUT my yaris has tu suffer to be awesome :laugh:

I have order the spoiler..it looks like the stock one..!!!

[why?]

never had anyone pull me over for my tint, and some of the more assholeish inspection places around me won't even give me a sticker because my tint is too dark for their antique broken down machines.

[_S7V7N_]

Lolll when I moved to Tx I called the place for my inspection and asked if I needed brights. I tried to convince the guy it didn't need them since it was a Toyota !

[packetrace]

You guys ate lucky! Here they tolerate nothing !!

[packetrace]

Tein springs ordered from MicroImage :D My bank account is crying right now :( Maybe L6 will wait...will use my PionnerPremier 6.5''as midrange for now...its not bad at all with sound deadending, L1V2, DEH-80PRS, IDQ12, :) Anyways I got alot of job to do on my install!

[packetrace]

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/6.png

[derickveliz2]

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/6.png

What's the offset? and what tire size are you going to use?

D.

[g.q.vios]

OHK I need help i seen your awsome pics of your guys setup's really nice wish i had some one down here w/ that kind of experince....

I have a lil probmlem i need mids i have highs and lows but need mids...

MY head unit Kenwood KDC-BT952HD 6 channel



4 channel amp is a Hi-Fonics 800 watts amp.. model #Hfi 100.4
in the front Infinity Kappa 63.9i 3-Way 6.5" 225W
in the back rear deck Kicker 07DS6930 DS-Series 6-Inch x 9-Inch 152mm X 229mm 3-Way Speaker

2 channel amp ... sub I like Its a Custom box w/ 2 kicker 10" in amps the power is a Rockford fosgate prime R500.1

MY question is How can i add so i can get mids.... the highs are their and the bass but no midss... do i need another amp and more speakers.... And if so where would i put the speakers.... thankyou let me know if i missed anything......


On my Hifonics amp the crossover is set to HPf Both of them So their set for Highs I think... THats why i say im confussed...Their is also a line out on the amp will take more pics for u later if u need them let me know...

:respekt:

[g.q.vios]

OHK I need help i seen your awsome pics of your guys setup's really nice wish i had some one down here w/ that kind of experince....

I have a lil probmlem i need mids i have highs and lows but need mids...

MY head unit Kenwood KDC-BT952HD 6 channel



4 channel amp is a Hi-Fonics 800 watts amp.. model #Hfi 100.4
in the front Infinity Kappa 63.9i 3-Way 6.5" 225W
in the back rear deck Kicker 07DS6930 DS-Series 6-Inch x 9-Inch 152mm X 229mm 3-Way Speaker

2 channel amp ... sub I like Its a Custom box w/ 2 kicker 10" in amps the power is a Rockford fosgate prime R500.1

MY question is How can i add so i can get mids.... the highs are their and the bass but no midss... do i need another amp and more speakers.... And if so where would i put the speakers.... thankyou let me know if i missed anything......


On my Hifonics amp the crossover is set to HPf Both of them So their set for Highs I think... THats why i say im confussed...Their is also a line out on the amp will take more pics for u later if u need them let me know...

:respekt:

i Have it posted on micro image also w/ pics and everything... this site likes small pics....
:cry:

[derickveliz2]

post the link to mi

D.

[g.q.vios]

^

http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/showthread.php/5098-What-next-after-the-head-unit?p=66597#post66597 too derick

[derickveliz2]

MY question is How can i add so i can get mids.... the highs are their and the bass but no midss... do i need another amp and more speakers.... And if so where would i put the speakers.... thankyou let me know if i missed anything......


On my Hifonics amp the crossover is set to HPf Both of them So their set for Highs I think... THats why i say im confussed...Their is also a line out on the amp will take more pics for u later if u need them let me know...

:respekt:

What do you mean with mids?
Yes you need another amp for more speakers

Check your HU instructions, I think that's where you have to check first for tuning adjustments.

Everything else looks ok

D.

[derickveliz2]

i Have it posted on micro image also w/ pics and everything... this site likes small pics....
:cry:

Here are your pictures...

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300//products/2012/13/113/x113KDCX996-B.jpeg

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Infinity-Kappa-63-9i-3-Way-6-5-225W-Car-Speaker-Set-/00/$(KGrHqMOKi0E12+kpszzBNs)-Gy78g~~_35.JPG

http://www.dailycaraudio.com/wp-content/uploads/kicker-6x9-speakers.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6956477715_a34c6c8ab1.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6956451489_b6e951e01d.jpg

[derickveliz2]

On my Hifonics amp the crossover is set to HPf Both of them So their set for Highs I think... THats why i say im confussed...Their is also a line out on the amp will take more pics for u later if u need them let me know...

:respekt:

Also try to turn of the x-over on the amps, your HU should be able to control that, but go gentle on the volume, don't let the speaker clip.

D.

[g.q.vios]

MY hu is complicated ass hell.... I dont really know how to adjust it i think i need a pro to do that it has all these frequency ranges that i know nothing about....

I mean 4 speakers are set to hpf and if i set it to another setting i dont like it....

my bass is ohk i Just need advice i guess on what kind of amp and what kind of speakers and where to put them and how do i run the rca's if i have all the 6 channels tied up ????

[g.q.vios]

Here are your pictures...

http://a248.e.akamai.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300//products/2012/13/113/x113KDCX996-B.jpeg

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Infinity-Kappa-63-9i-3-Way-6-5-225W-Car-Speaker-Set-/00/$(KGrHqMOKi0E12+kpszzBNs)-Gy78g~~_35.JPG

http://www.dailycaraudio.com/wp-content/uploads/kicker-6x9-speakers.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7186/6956477715_a34c6c8ab1.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/6956451489_b6e951e01d.jpg

awsome .... you are awsome how did u do that...

[g.q.vios]

Also try to turn of the x-over on the amps, your HU should be able to control that, but go gentle on the volume, don't let the speaker clip.

D.

their is a full setting and a lpf setting i tried putting them on these and dont like maybe cause i dont know how to adjust the x over or turn it off... I paid a pro to adjust it and he has it set like that he charged me 30$ for like 10 min of his time and listening and tweeking the amp... I like it but i have no mids u know where their a part of a song where their s no bass just mids i dont have that....

[derickveliz2]

their is a full setting and a lpf setting i tried putting them on these and dont like maybe cause i dont know how to adjust the x over or turn it off... I paid a pro to adjust it and he has it set like that he charged me 30$ for like 10 min of his time and listening and tweeking the amp... I like it but i have no mids u know where their a part of a song where their s no bass just mids i dont have that....

give me a song...

then maybe we should go over the phone

D.

[packetrace]

Here is my Yaris with new wheels and tires!

Caliper have to be sanded and painted :thumbup:

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo7.jpg

[packetrace]

Pioneer DEH-80PRS
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo6.jpg

Powerbass 1100.5X
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo.jpg
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo2.jpg

Stinger Overkill
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo4.jpg

Stinger roller
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo5.jpg

MDF ring for 12'' subwoofer
http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo3.jpg

[packetrace]

I really like the DEH-80PRS...but actually I think as I have read in the user manual and what I experimented with the unit..I can only set up HPF for the mids and high...and the available frequency are 63 80 100.....200 no more then that....there is certainly a way to put it to 5kHz....? anyone ?:iono::iono:

[TOLMACH]

^Nice rims.. direction of thread at the front and rear tires looks diffierent.. why is that?

[packetrace]

Oh fuc*!!!! i have installed them on like 15 minutes..i have not even take care of that! Will put them back correctly:)

[derickveliz2]

I really like the DEH-80PRS...but actually I think as I have read in the user manual and what I experimented with the unit..I can only set up HPF for the mids and high...and the available frequency are 63 80 100.....200 no more then that....there is certainly a way to put it to 5kHz....? anyone ?:iono::iono:

HPF for my Lows is 63-80Hz
HPF for my Mids is 160-200Hz

that's in a 3 way, if I set up for 2 way:

HPF for MidBass would be 63-80Hz

why go 5khz ? that's too high

now if you are talking about LPF then the Midbass stops at 5kHz

D.

[packetrace]

HPF for my Lows is 63-80Hz
HPF for my Mids is 160-200Hz

that's in a 3 way, if I set up for 2 way:

HPF for MidBass would be 63-80Hz

why go 5khz ? that's too high

now if you are talking about LPF then the Midbass stops at 5kHz

D.

Sorry, I meant for the HIGh (tweeter)...

I would set up the HPF at about 4Khz...

For the Midbass...I would like to get a HPF at 100Hz and a LPF at 5kHz...

But to what I have read and experimented...I can only set up a HPF..no LPF....

The only LPF I can set is for the Low....

[packetrace]

Forget it...I found it !

[packetrace]

I just started the fiberglassing in the trunk...it is a test..it will probably fail but like Derick says...it is a learning process..

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo-1.jpg

I putted some polyester fiber fill were the radio is...

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo2-1.jpg

a closer picture to the 6 channel RCA..

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo3-1.jpg


Today I ran power wire for the amplifier...speaker wire for the mids....amp remote...RCA wire...everything is STINGERS:biggrin::biggrin:

I also put Stinger Overkill dampening material on the front door...

Will receive MAT en ENSolite this week....

BTW I will be in Boston for the whole week :biggrin:

[derickveliz2]

BTW I will be in Boston for the whole week :biggrin:


So what's up in Boston? I think I'll be there on Tuesday or Wednesday, you should take the IDQ with you.

D.

[packetrace]

I'll be there with school...so i need to follow the bus...I'll arrive on thursday 4AM...until sunday-sathurday....:(

And even if it would have been possible to see each other...I would have to take the sub with me all sathurday long...:(

[derickveliz2]

I really like the DEH-80PRS...but actually I think as I have read in the user manual and what I experimented with the unit..I can only set up HPF for the mids and high...and the available frequency are 63 80 100.....200 no more then that....there is certainly a way to put it to 5kHz....? anyone ?:iono::iono:

Looking at the manual, looks you are going to be just fine!

I would set it up this way:

Sub - LPF 80Hz
Midbass - HPF 80Hz- LPF 5kHz
Tweeter - HPF 5kHz LPF Pass

Here is the LINK (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/StaticFiles/Manuals/Car/DEH-80PRS_OperationManual020712.pdf) for the manual

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-n-ybKTkG4Do/T59lP52O-II/AAAAAAAAn-8/QoN5VaMwygs/s1063/Fullscreen+capture+512012+122248+AM.bmp.jpg

D.

[derickveliz2]

I'll be there with school...so i need to follow the bus...I'll arrive on thursday 4AM...until sunday-sathurday....:(

And even if it would have been possible to see each other...I would have to take the sub with me all sathurday long...:(

Ok, showing off the car to a complete Bus it's not a good idea.

But let me know if some thing works for you.

D.

[packetrace]

I have printed the manual today...I will read it in the bus while we are going to Boston :D

Thank you Derick!!

I am out until sunday!!

Have a nice week guys!!


BTW I have molded the trunk for fiberglass...Ill give it more layers next week :)

[talnlnky]

why the polyfill stuffing behind the deck? Seems like that would increase the temperature of the deck, and any other electronics in that area.... Electronics don't like heat. I've got a denon deck with no internal amp that only has a 2amp fuse and it still gets hot when i play cd's.

I doubt the stuff does any amount of sound deadening if tha'ts what you are going for.

[derickveliz2]

Electronics don't like heat.

Agree!

See that black heat radiator (heat sink) in the back of the HU, I bet is looking for fresh air.

.

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/photo2-1.jpg



D.

[packetrace]

I had put it to see if it does make a difference because I had already seen it on Derick's thread...

I think it changes nothing...

[packetrace]

I started tonight the deadending progress...

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/IMG_0529.jpg

Do I put enough ?

[derickveliz2]

I had put it to see if it does make a difference because I had already seen it on Derick's thread...

I think it changes nothing...

I didn't use any polyfill over there, I did put a layer of CCFoam (for vibrations) and a heat barrier above the HU under the air ducts and above the air ducts. In summer the sun heats the dashboard pretty hard, also on top added a few peaces of foam to get rid of a rattle under the speedo cluster.

Radiant Heat Barrier:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-RsldKQQ_v4M/T6dEKCaVSVI/AAAAAAAAoEA/BeXPbs1KDyc/s800/Radiant_Barrier_.jpg


D.

[derickveliz2]

I started tonight the deadending progress...

Do I put enough ?

Yeah that's more than enough, but what really is going to make a difference since you will have a sub i the trunk is to cover with a layer of MLV all the floor, wheel wells and side panels, other wise you will end up with a HUMMM from the trunk.



http://i634.photobucket.com/albums/uu61/derickveliz/DSC_8762.jpg


D.

[derickveliz2]

And leave at least one drainage just in case!

And don't forget to make a chamber for the air vent, that is where most of the direct road noise gets into the cabin, you can do the following test now that your trunk is naked, lower your rear seats and drive on the high way, listen carefully while switching back and forth the air from circ to outside, you will hear the chamber open and close.

D.

[sqcomp]

Watch out! The fuel tank calls in that area...

[packetrace]

I have left a drainage :D

I'll check it for the air vent...

And...I have tried to get the back seat out....what a pain!!!!

I have stopped before I commit suicide!

[packetrace]

This afternoon I fired up the amplifier!!!

Wow!!! It makes a huge difference already!

For now I have only the Mids..which are actually the Pionner premier 6.5''..

Tomorrow I will wire and fire the L1v2! I will just drill a big hole in the a-pillar for now..Somewhen I will do like Derick did...put the tweeter in a plastic bag and put bondo under it to fit the tweeter on the a-pillar...

I can't wait to hear the L1v2 running!!

I haven't choosen a subwoofer for now...I am tempted by the Alpine type-r...

[why?]

alpine subs are totally insane. Make sure you want crazy SPL, because Alpine dishes it all up. Honestly I think Type R might knock you unconscious in a car as small as the Yaris.

[derickveliz2]

And...I have tried to get the back seat out....what a pain!!!!
I have stopped before I commit suicide!


I remember that, I hit the roof with my head so hard (and loud) that I had to go up stairs and check the kids. LOL

It's a pain for sure.

D.

[packetrace]

http://i1199.photobucket.com/albums/aa471/Antho_Paquette/8397c79c.jpg

Here an update...

started to deadend some small parts...with MAT and Ensolite..:redface: