When are you too Old !

[_S7V7N_]

How many guys and gals here are 30 + and still throw a bit of Bass in the trunk and hop on gaming systems like Xbox Live or PS3 ?

Reason I ask is some these youngsters look at me crazy when I tell them my age and I still enjoy bassing out.

30 here still Bass and hop on XBL !!

[CrankyOldMan]

It's a generational thing. I'm mid-30's (can't remember my actual age right now) and I enjoy video games and loud music while driving. I'm also an undergrad student, so I spend lots of time with young adults, many of whom are also surprised by my interests.

[_S7V7N_]

Good I'm not the only one Lolll. There a woman who competes in SPL competitions who's around 80 !


I tell you what when I'm on XBL and a kid who hasn't hit puberty comes on the mic and tells (us) we suck I ask for his moms Facebook !

Lil bastards !!!

[eTiMaGo]

at 80, that's probably the only way she can actually hear music :D

I'm edging closer to 31, quite enjoy thumping bass (but always in moderation), and game as often as I can :)

[contraband831]

Just hit 33 and I like my beats loud, mainly on my commute, I would love to game just don't have the time, but I hit the wii with my son here and there lol! But I have a game room in the works and once the command center is up and running my son and I will be in heaven

[jayeh]

I'm 26 and I had to google what XBL was. :iono:

[_S7V7N_]

XBL = X Box Live.

What do you do in your off time Jayeh ?

I spend time with the fam but after about 10:30 when they all go to sleep its XBL time !!

Even when we'd go out and get home around. 2 am it was COD Zombie time ! Now its all Gears of War 3 !

[RedRide]

When is one "too old"?
When they forget what it's like to be young. :smile:

Having said that, being a former (rock) bass player, I certainly have nothing against bass.
However, speaking as a life long audiophile, I could never understand some of the general public's current obsession with ridiculously augmented bass..........bass so pronounced and unnatural that it completely detroys the music.

While one sgnment is seeking the fabled "staight wire with gain", another segment wants more and more bass...... at home and in their car. :iono:

[sqcomp]

I hear all the statements.

As for the lady who is around "80", I believe you're probably thinking of Alma Gates. She was/is a pioneer into the SPL scene. She's the type of person you can talk to about anything. As a matter of fact, I recall my last conversation with her...it was about strippers and cheesecake.

As for SPL in my ride, yeah...I could I suppose. I'm just not too impressed with being the loudest on the block anymore. Believe me, I appreciate it, but just not as much as the little detail work that goes into some of the SQ cars.

[_S7V7N_]

Well in my college years it was always fun to set off alarms with our Bass. It was also fun rolling up on a car full of fosgate stickers at a red light and tell them to crank it ! Then at the next light unleash your 200 dollar system and rattle the hell out of your car, there car , and the cop sitting at the same stop light the furthest lane from you ! First time I heard about noise pollution. Lolll

[Altitude]

When is one "too old"?
When they forget what it's like to be young. :smile:

Having said that, being a former (rock) bass player, I certainly have nothing against bass.
However, speaking as a life long audiophile, I could never understand some of the general public's current obsession with ridiculously augmented bass..........bass so pronounced and unnatural that it completely detroys the music.

While one sgnment is seeking the fabled "staight wire with gain", another segment wants more and more bass...... at home and in their car. :iono:

Agreed. There's bass, then there's BASS. I like it to compliment the music, not overpower it.

[Altitude]

Always have been and always will be a gamer. PC gamer that is...I hate consoles. Got my start on Pong. I'm 47.

I like my music to have bass, but not bass that booms or shakes too much. I have had woofers/sub-woofers in every vehicle I have owned since 1982.

[why?]

spl is just silly to me. I had a next door neighbor who did the old 80's sedan thing and switched from 4 12's to 4 10's to etc, etc, etc. Totally insane. You could hear him from a half mile away at least, and inside the car literally shook. He use to drive my sister to school and she said it was a great back massage.

I put a 150 watt amp hooked to a 150 watt JL sub and it gave me massive headaches. Heh I had a more powerful system hooked up to my computer with an 8" sub and it sounded great in my room. One of the first 5.1 dolby systems for a computer.

Now I have been a gaming geek for decades. I have averaged more than 40 hours a week on games for a long long time. Computer games though, while it would be cool to play consoles, they are just too expensive, i tend to get them after the new system has been out for a few years.

[talnlnky]

29 here... i think i will always be into audio, but i'm not into it nearly as much as I used to be... but that is mostly due to time and money constraints as I grow older.

[JumpmanYaris]

I am 27 and I am a gameaholic! With 2 12" subs with cap and amp running from my OEM stereo lol to keep it on the low when park at mall parking lots and shit

[fnkngrv]

I am going on 37 and am having a really tough time with the prospect of having to give up my subsonic thumping for my racing aspirations in my Yaris. I also get really strange looks from time to time because I am so in tuned with the House/Club culture. I don't listen to a damned thing that is mainstream if possible. My daughter's friends think that I am pretty cool since I can just about school them in the current music that is floating through the clubs not only nationally, but internationally. She has new friends come over all the time to check out my crazy car and they have a tough time deciding if they want me to bump tunes while the boost is spooling or having it off to listen to the tone of the car. I have a lot of them talk about how they have 500-1000w in their trunk yet I am only pushing about 100 per sub and have a great sound and bump.

[CharlieBravo]

35 here. Been lovin bass since i was 15 and my friend just got 6X9s put in his nissan truck! I started with bazooka bass tubes, then truck box setups, bandpass boxes, then i got married, had kids, and now just getting back to what i like (just built my first 15" ported box). Don't care what others say. My own wife will not ride in my car! I'm hoping when the kids get older, one of them will want some kind of setup in their car and I can help.

[sqcomp]

It's nice reading everyone's reactions and experience.

Appreciating an SPL rig...

How about this for those who don't exactly appreciate the big boom...

ThInk of the SPL rigs as to sound as the top fuel dragsters are to car racing.

[RedRide]

Please define a "SPL rig"

[derickveliz2]

I'm going to be 41 in June, I used to be one of those that you could hear/feel blocks away! I just never knew about sound quality and what was all about! I started playing with a comodore 64, Atari, Pac Man, Space Invaders etc, now I enjoy playing Wii with my family. Still love the out doors and good music!

D.

[RedRide]

I'm going to be 41 in June, I used to be one of those that you could hear/feel blocks away! I just never knew about sound quality and what was all about! I started playing with a comodore 64, Atari, Pac Man, Space Invaders etc, now I enjoy playing Wii with my family. Still love the out doors and good music!

D.
I let you in a secret that many are in denial over.
Sound quality was no different back then and in some ways, even better.
Fact is, high qualty, high dynamic range anilog is better than compressed digital any day.

Also, about the only advantage of modern amplifiers is that they are much more efficient, not that they sound better than amps of the C-64 era.

[sqcomp]

I don't have to define SPL rig. You know it means.

Keep on the roll about analog formats. I'm sure your insistence of analog format supreme excellence will change the industry.

This isn't the thread to re-start your analog vs digital argument.

...and yes, you're right. high dynamic range analog is better than compressed crap. I also generally agree about the modern vs "classic" amplifiers. Still, this also shows that you haven't listened to a properly setup full range D class amplifier setup. I can't tell an appreciable difference in sound quality between (for instance) the 2011 IASCA Expert Solo 1 seat world championship vehicle using JL HD/750 class D amplifiers on each speaker versus my "classic" A/B surfboards and the "smaller" A/B 4 channel. We're using the same format of source and the same line of speakers. The only difference is in amplifier power and slight differences in processing.

[spocksleftball]

Well I am 50, I play halo weekly, and as a former punk rocker I love music loud. But thumping along with the accoustic signature of rythmicly falling bull carcasses is just a lame way to beg for attention. I prefer to upgrade my cars performance, not annoy my fellow drivers.

[sqcomp]

^ I like that one! "thumping along with the accoustic signature of rythmicly falling bull carcasses is just a lame way to beg for attention"

[skootdog]

40 in june and I grew up a basshead. I have grown toward quality instead of quantity as I've gotten older. It just doesn't sound right if it don't bump when its supposed to!

[Strider199]

Turned 50 early this year and I still play Halo and Call of Duty with my 18 year old son.
I remember having an $800.00 car and a $5000.00 sound system in it back when 8-tracks were the craze. I still have my amps, and speakers from way back but I haven't put them in my 2012 Yaris yet.
I love to Rock it as long as the quality of the sound is there.

[TOLMACH]

Turned 50 early this year and I still play Halo and Call of Duty with my 18 year old son.
I remember having an $800.00 car and a $5000.00 sound system in it back when 8-tracks were the craze. I still have my amps, and speakers from way back but I haven't put them in my 2012 Yaris yet.
I love to Rock it as long as the quality of the sound is there.

Awesome, man!

Just trying to figure out what would be the present day equivalent of $5000 from the days when 8-tracks were the craze?

[RedRide]

I don't have to define SPL rig. You know it means.

Keep on the roll about analog formats. I'm sure your insistence of analog format supreme excellence will change the industry.

This isn't the thread to re-start your analog vs digital argument.

...and yes, you're right. high dynamic range analog is better than compressed crap. I also generally agree about the modern vs "classic" amplifiers. Still, this also shows that you haven't listened to a properly setup full range D class amplifier setup. I can't tell an appreciable difference in sound quality between (for instance) the 2011 IASCA Expert Solo 1 seat world championship vehicle using JL HD/750 class D amplifiers on each speaker versus my "classic" A/B surfboards and the "smaller" A/B 4 channel. We're using the same format of source and the same line of speakers. The only difference is in amplifier power and slight differences in processing.

Are you arguing that a modern class D amps sounds great?
I never said that they did not and...... I've heard plenty.
I just said that a quality vintage amp sounds just as good while being less efficient.

As far as anilog vs digital, if ones knows anothing about digital sound they would be aware that digital can not reproduce every nuance of sound as anilog can. This is one of the reasons that anilog can often sound better.
Yes, high bitrate digital can often sound great but there is a difference in a Blind A/B test with high qualty aniolog.

Yeah, I know what "SPL" means but why call something a "SPL rig" ..... a "high SPL rig" yes , but both are just another name for high volume and neither one has anything to do with sound quality. It's all just pretentious BS IMO. :smile:

[why?]

Are you arguing that a modern class D amps sounds great?
I never said that they did not and...... I've heard plenty.
I just said that a quality vintage amp sounds just as good while being less efficient.

As far as anilog vs digital, if ones knows anothing about digital sound they would be aware that digital can not reproduce every nuance of sound as anilog can. This is one of the reasons that anilog can often sounds better.
Yes, high bitrate digital can often sound great but there is a difference in a Blind A/B test with high qualty aniolog.

Yeah, I know what "SPL" means but why call something a "SPL rig" ..... a "high SPL rig" yes , but both are just another name for high volume and neither one has anything to do with sound quality. It's all just pretentious BS IMO. :smile:

so you are basically claiming that todays multimillion dollar recording studios that record everything right on to a hard drive are crap. Sure, and if you buy that I have a bridge to sell you.

[_S7V7N_]

Come on let's keep this thread fun. I'll be more than Happy to start an Analog vs Digital audio format thread or Class D vs old school amps thread but this is definately off Topic for this thread.

[sqcomp]

Our illustrious RR forgets the basis for this thread. He's trying to drag anyone he can into a fight...on the internet...again...as usual.

See my signature quote.

[LEXX]

DEF not 30's. 30's are still young. Doesn't get weird till 50's +. But more about the person than the number they carry.

I'm pretty sure all the bass heads and rappers who are in their 40's and 50's now like tommy lee... kid rock... jay z... wu tang clan and a crapload of other rockers and rappers are still banging their systems loud in their rides. That era made the best music. No way they're not still blasting it out their rides.

[Viperoni]

28 and still pushing 140db ;)

[_S7V7N_]

Our illustrious RR forgets the basis for this thread. He's trying to drag anyone he can into a fight...on the internet...again...as usual.

See my signature quote.

Lolll I'm all for a debate just not in this thread.

2 things though


1). Use spellcheck

2). And keep your comments on the topic inside that thread. No need to drag it out over diff posts.

New debate thread being posted now.

[Killchain]

Ok,ok you got me. I'm 49 yoa. Yet I don't have a bad sound system. Only stock.
Yet I will blast some Kaskade or DEV.:thumbsup:

[sqcomp]

Lolll I'm all for a debate just not in this thread.

2 things though


1). Use spellcheck

2). And keep your comments on the topic inside that thread. No need to drag it out over diff posts.

New debate thread being posted now.

Did I misspell something? :bow:

[RedRide]

so you are basically claiming that todays multimillion dollar recording studios that record everything right on to a hard drive are crap. Sure, and if you buy that I have a bridge to sell you.

Sometimes, yes and I'm far from the only one who says this. Google it.:wink:

BTW, Multi million dollar recording studios?
With that remark you revealed that you know little abiout the recording process and the electronics/ hardware involved.

Multi million dollars to record a song and save it to a HDD?

There is an old computer saying " Garbage in.... garbage out" and digital music is simply a computer program and it's no better than what was originally digitally saved to a HDD. I suggest you educate yourself how digital music/sounds are actually created.

A digital recording may sound great to anyone who does not have an identical anilog recording/ playback of the identical source material to make an imediate A/B comparison but, digital is certainly is not 100% identical to the original sound..... close but not 100%
When CDs first became avaliable, most complained that they all sounded too harsh and artificial and they were 100% correct. Now, people who have no real experience with quality anilog have nothing to compare a CD to and think that digital is the absoute best because it is....... digital as if digital is some kind of magical medium.

However, there is a world wide resurgence of vinyl records among some young audiophiles as they discover how great they can sound (through a quality playback system) compared to their counterpart CDs. MP3s are a distant 3rd.
http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/music/148220015.html

Digital does it make it much easier to reproduce and distribute (cheaper) copy after copy and this is one of the reasons why the recording companies promoted them in the begining. Then, the general public got on the "convenience" bandwagon.
However, it all backfired on them in the end.

I'm not saying that digital does not have a purpose.... I got a mp3 and CD players..
I'm just saying that anilog has the potential of being better qualty even it it lacks the portability/convenience of digital. :smile:

[Kaotic Lazagna]

I'm 24...went from having my sub volume at 7 outta 8 down to 1 outta 8. hahahahaha. I think I went out of my nothing but bass phase to actually being able to hear other (higher) frequencies. hahahaha

[sqcomp]

RR...you're posting in the wrong area for this analog vs digital discussion. Take the hint.

[RedRide]

RR...you're posting in the wrong area for this analog vs digital discussion. Take the hint.

You are not being civil.......take the hint!

[racerb]

I'm 50 now and still listen to Classic Rock on the way to work, 90's and newer Rock going home and head banger stuff most weekends. I have really never been into custom systems, concentrating more on car performance. Hell I guess my '01 Tundra has the best sound system I've ever owned and it's factory. In my case, I'd rather hear a group live and in person than through car speakers any day, but who can afford that this day in time?

racerb :w00t:

[sqcomp]

^ I dunno man. My last concert was Eric Clapton last year. I'm going to Bonnie Raitt later this year. I'm also supporting the local aspiring bands by going to one of the local theaters and paying $10 at the door on the 16th...albeit they're not along the Hard rock/blues lines of EC and BR. They're more on the FFDP style.

What is fun is listening to a flamenco guitar duet at the local steakhouse who is recording while entertaining the patrons. I wish that I had more time to sit and listen. My uniform was getting to me and I wanted to get my mum home after the mother's day dinner. 20 minutes just wasn't long enough to listen to good guitar played live like that.

[sickpuppy1]

57 years old, have 60rms per channels to the front and another 260rms for my sub in the back. I have classical, jazz, rock,pipe organ and dubstep music in my car,lmao. About the only stuff i dont listen to is Rap and Country. I can go from Diva Premal to Diana Krall and then to Korn,Red Hot Chili Pepper or Skrillex or Virgil Fox and Santana all in the same trip. To say I'm not confined to one style is an understatement! But Pink Floyd will always be my favorite.

[sickpuppy1]

And while I really appreciate quality sound systems at moderate listening levels, My teenager and college student tell me to turn it down more often than you'd think......

[TOLMACH]

57 years old, have 60rms per channels to the front and another 260rms for my sub in the back. I have classical, jazz, rock,pipe organ and dubstep music in my car,lmao. About the only stuff i dont listen to is Rap and Country. I can go from Diva Premal to Diana Krall and then to Korn,Red Hot Chili Pepper or Skrillex or Virgil Fox and Santana all in the same trip. To say I'm not confined to one style is an understatement! But Pink Floyd will always be my favorite.

+1 on 70 w rms to the front

+ 1 on pink floyd (though in my case it is sharing the top place with metallica)

[spocksleftball]

Pink floyd only with sid should get +1...

[derickveliz2]

Just a few thoughts...

The other day I was in Boston at a fancy building that had elevators to park the resident's vehicles, I was waiting at the entrance of the lobby and one of the car-elevator opens and a shiny Lexus comes out with this AWESOME .... Boom Boom, Psst Psst sounding through out a couple of windows all the way down. I had to asked him about his Stereo,... here comes the facts and reality:

Once I poke my head inside the car all the magic was gone! actually the car itself was performing as a big speaker enclosure that sounded really nice, but the guy driving the car wasn't getting all that magic sound I was hearing from a few feet away, instead it was way too loud and harsh to appreciate the song, I bet you can't really listen to music like that for long periods of time. (Hey this was me 15 years ago!)

What I'm happy about is all the effort I made building my system is paying off,and it sounds as good as the Lexus from the outside, but at the same time I get to enjoy the music.

I love BASS I really do and I'm 40 years old (O:

D.

[sickpuppy1]

Pink floyd only with sid should get +1...
I understand what you mean about Sid, but if it werent for him leaving, there would be no Wish You Were Here disk, since its about him! My fav disk.......

[Highway Star]

47 here, been gaming since pong. I game on xbox now. As for music, I like all kinds, but mostly listen to classic rock. My yaris still has the stock system for now. I don't care for loud heavy bass, I prefer rich clean sound.

Pink Floyd is #1 everything else falls under them :thumbsup:

:burnrubber:

PS: Your too old when the box is going into the hole

[Tempe]

XBL = X Box Live.

Really? Last time I checked in a car audio forum it referred to the XBL² motor topology (http://www.adireaudio.com/Files/XBL2DetailsPaper.pdf).

:thumbsup:

[_S7V7N_]

How many guys and gals here are 30 + and still throw a bit of Bass in the trunk and hop on gaming systems like Xbox Live or PS3 ?

Reason I ask is some these youngsters look at me crazy when I tell them my age and I still enjoy bassing out.

30 here still Bass and hop on XBL !!

You must have Failed Reading Comprehension ?

Notice : Gaming Systems

[sqcomp]

57 years old, have 60rms per channels to the front and another 260rms for my sub in the back. I have classical, jazz, rock,pipe organ and dubstep music in my car,lmao. About the only stuff i dont listen to is Rap and Country. I can go from Diva Premal to Diana Krall and then to Korn,Red Hot Chili Pepper or Skrillex or Virgil Fox and Santana all in the same trip. To say I'm not confined to one style is an understatement! But Pink Floyd will always be my favorite.

...Virgil Fox...

It's too bad Virgil Fox's recordings aren't on par with modern microphone and mixing techniques. I could sure use a crystal clear Little Fugue or Toccata and Fugue in D minor from him. I have to "settle" for E. Power Biggs instead.

Take a look for On The Air by Dick Broekema off the Marantz Demo Disc. That is a nice 1:30 second pipe organ snippet that'll have you reaching to touch the pipes.

http://www.legalsounds.com/download-mp3/dick-broekema/marantz-hi-end-audiophile-test-demo-sacd-1st-edition/on-the-air/song_5193894

[patm]

Lolll I'm all for a debate just not in this thread.

2 things though


1). Use spellcheck

2). And keep your comments on the topic inside that thread. No need to drag it out over diff posts.

New debate thread being posted now.

You must have Failed Reading Comprehension ?

Notice : Gaming Systems

I failed reading comprehension. Who cares about comprehension if you don't enjoy what your reading. I like applied math with respect to theoretical physics, specifically string theory.

[12 yaris]

What?

[sickpuppy1]

http://superstringtheory.com/basics/basic4.html

[sqcomp]

...and any of this has to do with this because...

(me of all people typing that)

[trdvvti07]

I'm 32 and my Yaris Sedan can rattle the doors off these nasty little hondas. My kids love it...when they arent in it, lol

[Alien Mantis]

I'm old. I grew up on metal music. I've been computer gaming since it was invented. I had a few consoles over the years, but the PC is where it's at. I currently play StarCraft2 and Diablo3.
I'm also into muscle cars / grass-roots heads-up drag racing. I also like motocross. I guess I am an adrenaline junky nerd.

As far as "music" goes, i've been into many scenes. And I can tell you, there is one group of guys from New Jersey that stand out above ALL else.

The level of talent is INSANE. The guitarplayer writes most of the music.
The live clips are always a little rough, but I can assure you, the recordings on the CD's are pristine and amazing.

They play this particular song as an ENCORE after their main set.
Watch the whole thing, and you will understand just how amazing these guys are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J26jHVI_oos

:headbang::bow::respekt:

[tooter]

Thanks! :smile:

Never heard of Symphony X until now.
They should be writing sound tracks for movies.:thumbsup:

Here's the studio version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaN3pwBsRf8

[JumpmanYaris]

I am 27 and I let it blast like a mug

[Alien Mantis]

Thanks! :smile:
Never heard of Symphony X until now.
They should be writing sound tracks for movies.

Michael Romeo, ( the guitarplayer/songwriter ), is a fan of John Williams and other composers. Romeo is our 21st century Mozart. The guy is talent without limits. ( And a really nice, humble person if you ever have the chance to meet him. )

Symphony X does not make 4-minute songs to be played on the radio.
They write epic masterpieces that stand the test of time.
They have been around since the early-mid 90's.

Here is an example from their latest release:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw4SdGv5UzI