anyone with Blitz supercharger?

[yrsdrgn]

Anyone install a Blitz supercharger on their Yaris yet? Just curious.

[eTiMaGo]

Look for a member here called Teruyume, only one here with a Blitz SC, I believe...

[YarisGuy]

http://yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2031&stc=1&d=1161964204

:w00t:

[yrsdrgn]

nice but i'm talking about the one made specifically for the Vitz or Yaris

[Kitt]

http://yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2031&stc=1&d=1161964204

:w00t:

Did it came with a different cylinder head cover or you had to cut it???

[eco]

That was cut.

[Lafiro]

Is the Blitz adjustable? Like to make it give more boost then its default amount?

[eTiMaGo]

Yeah it has a controller that allows no boost, or 2 or three levels of boost. Pretty fancy!

[Lafiro]

Nice, but what Im now trying to say is that, if there is Off, Low, Med, High....

Is there Very High? Super High? Set your own boost High?

Maybe I'm just high right now? lol

No seriously I would want to have atleast the capability to have it make up to 200hp instead of what? 130?

[eTiMaGo]

erm there's a physical limitation to how much boost a supercharger can make, you could increase that by overdriving the pulley, but then again you can probably only push it so much over spec before it loses efficiency/overheats and dies.

[Lafiro]

Ok, that does make sense, but then I guess that would mean I myself would just want a S/C that can produce more boost for our engine.

Would that be to much to ask for since a 20-30% increase just doesn't cut it for a few $$$$....?

[eTiMaGo]

It's totally possible, but remember that this blitz SC has been chosen/engineered to be a best fit for our engine. You could strap on a bigger one, but its specifications may not be suitable for the engine, and create trouble down the line, especially if the engine's internals are not strenghtened. By all means, be a pioneer and try :smile:

[cleong]

The Blitz SC is exactly what it is marketed to be - a bolt-on supercharger. Which means that they've increased horsepower with an eye on engine longevity based on the components that are inside the engine, and so the boost is mild.

The Vios Turbo (turbocharged 1NZ) in Thailand makes only 150-ish and that is a factory job.

You do want to drive your car for more than a few hundred miles/kilometres before a hole is punched out one side of the engine block, don't you?

The problem with turbo setups is that its so easy to get greedy and wind up the boost for just the bit more power. But the rest of the components, are they up to it? And 200hp sounds like a ground up rebuild to me......

Oh, don't forget to leave a bit of money for brake upgrades. In fact, do the brakes first.

[Teruyume]

the theoratical ideal compression ratio after boost is 12~14:1
the stock engine is about 10.5 to 11:1 depend on ca or us or jp model.

if u have a 6psi of boost ur engine will be around 16:1 compression ratio. that will be increase of thermal efficiency, required intercooler. and low compression ratio. usually a 8:1 compression piston, will be able to work with a 8~12 PSI of boost. but still wut getting into your engine is about 14:1 compression ratio.

to get over that u will need reenforced con-rod and crank and probably cylinder sleeves.

so in conclusion:
if u want HP not just get more boost, i need to get ur engine to ideal compression ratio (NOT more boost = more HP)

[BulletProofAuto]

USDM Blitz supercharge pricing has been released, just no availability yet.
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/catalog-detail.php?ID=5270

[ChinoCharles]

Not a bad price John, not bad at all... especially after looking at the dyno sheet!

[spkrman]

not horribly priced, we'll see what else comes along.

I like the ability to go from 0 to level 1 to level 2 boost though... and perhaps have a pulley made for a little extra? :)

[BulletProofAuto]

the benefit of the blitz supercharger is that it has already been on the market in japan for years, so you aren't taking a chance on a product that is new...just something to think about. cheaper is rarely going to be better when it comes to forced induction.

[yrsdrgn]

would it be alright to supercharge an automatic car? please note that this is just a show car not any type of racing for it haha

[eTiMaGo]

Well it's not taking the engine to stratospheric levels, the auto trans should be able to handle it, just don't go mad and try to do burnouts with it...

[yrsdrgn]

i actucally dont know how to do burnouts with an automatic haha. all i know is that you put the car in "N" and rev the car hella then drop the lever to "d".....but there's a rev limiter on the car if I'm correct.

[eTiMaGo]

i actucally dont know how to do burnouts with an automatic haha. all i know is that you put the car in "N" and rev the car hella then drop the lever to "d".....but there's a rev limiter on the car if I'm correct.

Yeah that's what I mean... not good for an auto tranny even with a normal engine, even worse with a boosted one!

[yrsdrgn]

oic haha. I've never done that and i doubt that i ever will. maybe after i get my bucket seats i'll save up for the supercharger

[ChinoCharles]

The car that Blitz did up for the show circuit (w/ its supercharger in the bay) was an automatic. Its in that issue of Siphon magazine, along with the dyno sheets. I want to say it put HP in the 130-140 range. That sounds like fun to me.

[largeorangefont]

not horribly priced, we'll see what else comes along.

I like the ability to go from 0 to level 1 to level 2 boost though... and perhaps have a pulley made for a little extra? :)


I can get a 2.3L Whipple supercharger for my Cobra for cheaper than that :) and that will give up to 200 more HP, not 50.

I'm assuming this isn't CARB or 50 state legal.

It does look cool. I'd get it if it was around $2500. For $3500 I'd rather go turbo.

[jdubau55]

I can get a 2.3L Whipple supercharger for my Cobra for cheaper than that :) and that will give up to 200 more HP, not 50.

I'm assuming this isn't CARB or 50 state legal.

It does look cool. I'd get it if it was around $2500. For $3500 I'd rather go turbo.

Do the math on the displacement to HP gain ratio....about the same or better.

[yrsdrgn]

The car that Blitz did up for the show circuit (w/ its supercharger in the bay) was an automatic. Its in that issue of Siphon magazine, along with the dyno sheets. I want to say it put HP in the 130-140 range. That sounds like fun to me.


Sweet. I haven't been able to get my hands on the Siphon mag so I don't know wut's up. If they dropped it into an auto maybe I will in the future =P

[largeorangefont]

Do the math on the displacement to HP gain ratio....about the same or better.


The Whipple is better in the displacement to HP gain because its almost $500 cheaper. Its also a twin screw vs the roots design of the blitz. It is apples to oranges anyway, I was just throwing it out there to reference the price. That is pretty steep.

That wasn't really my point though. If you are going to spend that kind of cash, you should look at going turbo. The gains will be better for the money.

Plus it doesn't seem to be smog legal, so there is no benefit from a legality perspective over a turbo.

[yrsdrgn]

let's see........turbo on an automatic car? uh....nah maybe if i had a manual car (probably next yaris) but for now...no way

[largeorangefont]

let's see........turbo on an automatic car? uh....nah maybe if i had a manual car (probably next yaris) but for now...no way

There is nothing wrong with a turbo on an auto.

[punch]

let's see........turbo on an automatic car? uh....nah maybe if i had a manual car (probably next yaris) but for now...no way

yeah, turbo on an automatic, works, i had 250whp on my turbo pt cruiser autostick.

[BulletProofAuto]

Plus it doesn't seem to be smog legal, so there is no benefit from a legality perspective over a turbo.

Not everyone lives in California, so carb approval wouldn't matter to the other 49 states as well as Canada.

Japanese parts will always be more expensive then American parts, that is a really bad comparison. How many supercharged Yaris/Vitz are there going to be in the entire world compared to how many supercharged small blocks from ford or chevy are there? Quantity and production cost owns everything.

[yrsdrgn]

especially in SF where you sorta need more low end torque i think a supercharger would be a better option. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still learning.

[bigsky2]

Quite correct, a supercharged vehicle will benefit from more low end torque.

[largeorangefont]

especially in SF where you sorta need more low end torque i think a supercharger would be a better option. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I'm still learning.

You are correct. The blitz is a roots style supercharger, so you will gain low end touque. With a turbo or centirfugal supercharger, you would see larger gains in the mid-tope end, and no difference in the low RPMs.

[bigsky2]

I can't help but say this..

SUPERCHARGE ME

[largeorangefont]

Not everyone lives in California, so carb approval wouldn't matter to the other 49 states as well as Canada.

Japanese parts will always be more expensive then American parts, that is a really bad comparison. How many supercharged Yaris/Vitz are there going to be in the entire world compared to how many supercharged small blocks from ford or chevy are there? Quantity and production cost owns everything.

I agree that there are economies of scale at work here. A $3500 power adder on a $13000 car is expensive no matter how you look at it.

If it was around $2500 I'd have a hard time NOT buying one.

[bigsky2]

I think the biggest issue I have is finding an appropriate installer to install the supercharger.

I'm all for DIY projects, but something of this nature makes me want to leave it to professionals.

How difficult is it for a capable mechanic to install a SC kit such as this for the Yaris?

[jdubau55]

That wasn't really my point though. If you are going to spend that kind of cash, you should look at going turbo. The gains will be better for the money.


100% agree!! Never been a fan of superchargers. Until someone comes up with one that is ran by an electric motor and not ran off of the engine. Even still I'm turbo through and through.

[jdubau55]

I think the biggest issue I have is finding an appropriate installer to install the supercharger.

I'm all for DIY projects, but something of this nature makes me want to leave it to professionals.

How difficult is it for a capable mechanic to install a SC kit such as this for the Yaris?

If you ask me...my .02$ This is a bolt on kit. There is nothing that should be extra nor removed. Its meant to be thrown on and work. That said, I see this being a fairly easy job for any competent mechanic. My advise would be to find a mechanic friend who wouldnt mind helping and supervising one weekend so you will have the professional knowledge needed yet still learn while your at.

[yrsdrgn]

Well then, I guess I'll just have to wait until I get enough money for any and all future mods. Thanks for all the help and info.:thumbsup:

[sqcomp]

Interesting...

I'm going to stay the heck away from this one. I can see the lines of people coming into the Toyota dealership crying because their vehicle is broken...and Toyota saying, "too bad, so sad". Best of luck to everyone who tries this though. Believe me, I'm a fan of boost, just not of the aftermath on an improperly installed power-adder. You know it'll happen!

Buyer beware. You'll pay to play in more ways than one.

I just can't justify the minor gains of the supercharger. You're not even going to have a 14 second car. For the same cost as a used SRT-4.

[yrsdrgn]

If Blitz can do it without a bad after-effect, so can we (me and anyone else who going to install S/C later)

[Snyprwlf47]

So to get a blitz supercharger to work in our Yaris's then we need to completely beef up our engines for them to withstand the extra 2 Psi that it cant take.?_?

[marcus]

So to get a blitz supercharger to work in our Yaris's then we need to completely beef up our engines for them to withstand the extra 2 Psi that it cant take.?_?

uhmm u opened up an old thread tons of people here has the blitz sc actually made for yaris.. approx 30 whp increase.

[rpalai]

Anyone install a Blitz supercharger on their Yaris yet? Just curious.

Hi! YES, I have installed the Blitz Supercharger on my late 2008 Yaris 2-dr liftback S-model 5-speed. LOVE IT!! Makes car fast and a lot of fun to drive. Instant response! You do lose about 5 mpg, however. But oh well, that's the price we all have to pay for having fun! It is worth it! I ALSO PUT ON THE 2009 S-model body kit as well. Change the entire looks of the car. OIt is hot looking now! Go to www.cardomain.com and type in
rpalais in the search bar and it swill take you to my garage page where you can see many of my other cars including the Yaris. Click on each car pic to see more pics.

If you ave any other questions, pls feel free to email me at rpalais@tampabay.rr.com I prefer this way rather than forum messaging.

Thanks! Rich Palais

[LtNoogie]

Rich,

This is the first I've seen of your Yaris. I love the look! Not much to say about the supercharger other than I'm glad you're still liking it.

Long

[rpalai]

Hello! I have read yours and the other various commentaries about the Blitz Supercharger System. I have one of these in my 2008 Yaris 2Dr Liftback 5-speed for over 9 months now and I have been quite pleased with it. I feel that it delivers just enough performance to make the car a lot of fun to drive, while maintaining reliability, hopefully, longevity and overall still good economy as well. I would not suggest modifying nor tampering with it as a bunch of very intelligent automotive engineers in Japan have built this system to perform the way it should and they know a lot more about it than I do, or most other people do.

But just one thing I have been encountering lately concerns me. Since the installation, the car has had more than enough performance to allow me to drive it without having to mash the throttle too far. Well, the other day, in order to safely pass a slower moving vehicle, I did have to press down on the throttle more than I normally would do (still NOT floored) and I heard for the first time, BAD audible DETONATION! Yikes! I backed off the throttle a little and of course, it went away thank GOD! While it is entirely possible that I could have had a bad tank of Premium fuel, still it is not likely. I am concerned that perhaps the controller is not allowing enough fuel enrichment to happen at high throttle angles to prevent Detonation? Not sure. I HAVE periodically put a jar of Injector Cleaner in the tank to help keep fuel flowing properly through the injectors..

Has anyone else experienced anything like this? I have read about one or two reported cases of lean fuel conditions with the Blitz controller at higher throttle use, but not by everyone who has this system. Does anyone know of a viable fix for this if it happens to be a fuel controller issue or anything else? I ALWAYS run Chevron High Test fuel and add octane boost periodically. I would REALLY appreciate ANYTHING at all that anyone can provide w/regards to sending me information about this issue. If it is easier, my email is rpalais@tampabay.rr.com, which I'd actually prefer to use even though I love the forum!
Thank you!
rpalai

the theoratical ideal compression ratio after boost is 12~14:1
the stock engine is about 10.5 to 11:1 depend on ca or us or jp model.

if u have a 6psi of boost ur engine will be around 16:1 compression ratio. that will be increase of thermal efficiency, required intercooler. and low compression ratio. usually a 8:1 compression piston, will be able to work with a 8~12 PSI of boost. but still wut getting into your engine is about 14:1 compression ratio.

to get over that u will need reenforced con-rod and crank and probably cylinder sleeves

so in conclusion:
if u want HP not just get more boost, i need to get ur engine to ideal compression ratio (NOT more boost = more HP)

[thebarber]

i believe one of the fixes for detonation is using fuel injectors from a 1zzfe engine. theyre relatively easy to come by used on places like newcelica.org. i think the problem is that there isnt enough fuel being sprayed by the 1nzfe injectors so you get detonation at wide open throttle (WOT)

[rpalai]

Anyone install a Blitz supercharger on their Yaris yet? Just curious.

Yes, I most definitely DO have a Blitz Supercharger in my 2008 Yaris. Did it when I first bought the new car back in very late 2008. It is a fully optioned and loaded 2-Dr Lifback in Red. I LOVE IT!!! The Blitz SC is definitely a nice perfomance upgrade that wakes up the little 1.5 4-banger. Also have the
5-speed. LOVE IT LOVE IT!! NO weenie-matics here. No way! Never! I own 10 cars. All of them are sticks (5 of them are SC'd or Turbo) except for my 2003 Montana Van and my fully-built 1979 Pontiac LeMans Safari Wagon set up as a GTO w/a GTO 400 cid and Holley digital 4Di EFI and a 700 R4 with B&M lock-up kit. Car is a stump puller and a screamer. Almost converted to a stick, but the 700 R4 is nice w/ the higher stall converter and shift kit. Custom headers as well. Really nice car, but a gas guzzler no doubt.

Also put in the Megan header at the advice of Garm of Cali Yaris. I also purchased the Blitz SC from him as well. I highly reccommend Garm. He is a great guy and is very honest and good to do business with. Also added a boat-load of suspension and handling upgrades. So now, the Yaris also really handles nice around turns. No leaning, etc. I can be more specific if you are interested. NGo to www.cardomain.com and type in rpalais in the search bar upper right of page and it will take you right to my garage page as it is called. Enjoy! rpalai

[rpalai]

i believe one of the fixes for detonation is using fuel injectors from a 1zzfe engine. theyre relatively easy to come by used on places like newcelica.org. i think the problem is that there isnt enough fuel being sprayed by the 1nzfe injectors so you get detonation at wide open throttle (WOT)

OK. Sounds good and I certainly am willing to try it. I have since solved a good deal of the detonation issue, but still on rare occasion, I do still have a drop of it. I wonder, does the Yaris motor have a knock sensor that pulls out timing upon sensing detonation? Anyone know about this?

Please tell me how adversely the larger injectors that you suggest will negatively reduce fuel economy? Just wondering. I would expect some, but I'd still like to know more about this.

Thanks!
rpalai

[cali yaris]

rpalai, good to see you man! The Yaris does have a knock sensor.

I'm not sure about the fuel economy with the larger injectors, but it stands to reason that it would be affected to some extent.

[zachryboles]

Yes, I most definitely DO have a Blitz Supercharger in my 2008 Yaris. Did it when I first bought the new car back in very late 2008. It is a fully optioned and loaded 2-Dr Lifback in Red. I LOVE IT!!! The Blitz SC is definitely a nice perfomance upgrade that wakes up the little 1.5 4-banger. Also have the
5-speed. LOVE IT LOVE IT!! NO weenie-matics here. No way! Never! I own 10 cars. All of them are sticks (5 of them are SC'd or Turbo) except for my 2003 Montana Van and my fully-built 1979 Pontiac LeMans Safari Wagon set up as a GTO w/a GTO 400 cid and Holley digital 4Di EFI and a 700 R4 with B&M lock-up kit. Car is a stump puller and a screamer. Almost converted to a stick, but the 700 R4 is nice w/ the higher stall converter and shift kit. Custom headers as well. Really nice car, but a gas guzzler no doubt.

Also put in the Megan header at the advice of Garm of Cali Yaris. I also purchased the Blitz SC from him as well. I highly reccommend Garm. He is a great guy and is very honest and good to do business with. Also added a boat-load of suspension and handling upgrades. So now, the Yaris also really handles nice around turns. No leaning, etc. I can be more specific if you are interested. NGo to www.cardomain.com and type in rpalais in the search bar upper right of page and it will take you right to my garage page as it is called. Enjoy! rpalai

Holy old thread revival Batman!!!! :eek: