View Full Version : TURBO DIY...
forpinks
02-24-2007, 08:53 PM
HEY PIPZ! Just want to know what parts I need to properly install a TURBO for a Yaris (including suspension/brakes) I just want it to go about 210HP and hoping for more torque so I can actually try making it faster on the corners...
I'll have my friend to order me a turbo and some other parts in the Philippines from Japan, and just do it myself, I'll probably save a bunch of money:thumbsup: .. by doing that/ also their asking me how big of a TURBO do I need? he said the Turbo unit actually cost $80-200 brand new...
Im actually asking you this so I can experiment with my brand new car and tell you about it, maybe we can save alot of money if we order from there...
The only thing that might cost alot I guess is the E-manage it cost too much there... maybe its cheaper in Taiwan and maybe Etimago can help us with the ordering....:thumbup:
ANYWAYZ THANX PIPZ!!!
Nutzoids
02-24-2007, 09:39 PM
:laughabove:
210HP... Be prepared for new Internals (Cams, Pistons) New Clutch and Flywheel... Along with the Turbo, Inter-cooler, Cold Air Intake, Pipes, Coil-Overs, Dampers, Rims, Tires, LSD, ECU retard, and a new engine after you blow the car up your first day at the Track!
210HP on a car that weighs less then a TON...
Your looking at about $8,000 - $10,000
Plus the price of the car...$13,000ish
$21 - $23 Grand
Next time buy a TC!
:evil:
cleong
02-24-2007, 11:07 PM
Seen in an Australian workshop:
LABOUR RATES
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$75 per hour if we do it
$85 per hour if you watch us do it
$100 per hour if you want to help us with it
$200 per hour if we have to fix up the mess you made trying to do it yourself
*note: prices are relative and do not imply actual costs.
forpinks
02-25-2007, 12:15 AM
I actually turboed a car back 5years ago on a carburated 1.3 liter engine. we did pretty good, but its still not enough to race that 85 LEVIN at our place....
it only cost me $1200 plus some dinner for some of my friends who helped me for a day... it made 120HP at the Dyno... revs up to 9000RPM and I only used it for 5weeks because I went to the US and the engine went rusty after 2 yrs before I used it again...
It slow to me after I drove a friends 240SX "without the pop-up headlight" dunno how fast it is but I spent time going sideways at an empty parking lot at a mall... when I got here... (FYI where not friends anymore though) so 120 hp on a 1000 KG is nothing now. but still its faster than my corolla now.... LOL! even my civic hatchback back then... I still drive it when I get a vacation....
eTiMaGo
02-25-2007, 12:25 AM
Then, by all means, give it a try :smile:
But remember these newfangled high-efficiency engines are a lot more finicky than an ol' carburated engine. You do get what you pay for when you let experts do it, but if you really want to learn, then there certainly is no better way than trial and error :wink:
cdydjded
02-25-2007, 10:17 AM
hp & cheap does not go together. Why is it that everyone wants alot of power & spend no $? ppl if you want power you have to spend the $. If you cant spend $ dont buy a car that has 100hp. I am certain nobody is going to make a S/C or Turbo kit for less than $3000. That is not including the exhuast & clutch kit. You want cheap power, buy a nitrous kit.
07typeS
02-25-2007, 11:30 AM
yea and seriously......ur asking for trouble......its like taking a new N/A gt mustang and wanting 600HP out of it, doubling the horse power takes a lot more than just throwing in forced induction like someone said up there.......the upgrade in other parts to handle that much HP will probably cost u twice as much as the turbo.......
eTiMaGo
02-25-2007, 11:38 AM
look ma! 20psi boost on my stock Yaris!
BOOM
sam07yaris
02-25-2007, 12:55 PM
I actually turboed a car back 5years ago on a carburated 1.3 liter engine. we did pretty good, but its still not enough to race that 85 LEVIN at our place....
it only cost me $1200 plus some dinner for some of my friends who helped me for a day... it made 120HP at the Dyno... revs up to 9000RPM and I only used it for 5weeks because I went to the US and the engine went rusty after 2 yrs before I used it again...
It slow to me after I drove a friends 240SX "without the pop-up headlight" dunno how fast it is but I spent time going sideways at an empty parking lot at a mall... when I got here... (FYI where not friends anymore though) so 120 hp on a 1000 KG is nothing now. but still its faster than my corolla now.... LOL! even my civic hatchback back then... I still drive it when I get a vacation....
okAY im hung over from a party last night til 3 am but reading this hurts:confused: :drinking: ,
http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/pek-etoyota.html
look ma! 20psi boost on my stock Yaris!
BOOM
Hahahahaha
BlueLiftback
02-25-2007, 03:31 PM
If you want fast for cheap, get a bike.
I really think you'd be better off doing an engine swap in order to get 200+ rather than trying to hold that poor little 1.3 together with that much boost.
Love my car, but it is what it is. 130-140HP is probably what you are looking at safely (i.e. dumping about $5k into it and making it reasonable to believe it will last more than 10k miles before exploding like a frog on a hot plate).
Just sell it and get a NorthStar V8 modded Fiero lol...
ChinoCharles
02-25-2007, 03:34 PM
Forget about horsepower. Focus on what she does on the skidpad.
07typeS
02-25-2007, 05:48 PM
yea i think our car with like 150-160 wold be perfect......were all obviously not buying it for the horsepower, but i think 150 horses in a 2200-2300 lb car would do what we all wish it was doing.
if your serious......go get yourself a cheap civic hatch maybe a 96 or something, gut it (can get it probably under 2200lbs), and drop a b18c1 in, turbo it, lsd tranny....if that doesnt make u happy i dont know what will
joey1320
03-01-2007, 10:34 PM
you can't expect 210hp(even if it's at the crank, but i think you meant at the wheels) and not pay a lot of money. yes you can builda turbo kit for around $1500 with ebay parts but you can't expect the engine to be pushed pass it's limits.
good luck!
jdubau55
03-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Buy an old 91-93 240sx, gut it, do a sr20det swap then go to town. Tons of aftermarket parts and the sr20 can easily push 300 whp with simple bolt ons.
sqcomp
03-02-2007, 05:50 PM
:iono:
What was the point of that...especially since we're on a Yaris forum?
Not trying to be a jerk though.
07typeS
03-02-2007, 06:11 PM
Buy an old 91-93 240sx, gut it, do a sr20det swap then go to town. Tons of aftermarket parts and the sr20 can easily push 300 whp with simple bolt ons.
amen on that one......
90tsi
03-02-2007, 06:26 PM
i'd like to see 200whp out of the 1.5 i know it probaly wont happen for a long time tho. i agree with the 150 160 hp statement. i think with that much it wouldnt seem so gutless.
jdubau55
03-02-2007, 06:30 PM
:iono:
What was the point of that...especially since we're on a Yaris forum?
Not trying to be a jerk though.
Giving my .02 cents.....I think this whole thread is pointless actually, not being a jerk either, but this is a very wide topic. Like tell me how to build a car with X amount of dollars.
cali yaris
08-07-2007, 03:01 AM
ok, you get 150, and that's really fun....for about two weeks. then you go for 200, and that seems really fast....until some kid in his dad's exotic stomps you. "gotta have more", you think.... etc. etc. ad horsepowerum.
that's my story, anyway. and it's SO FUN!
carlosh
08-07-2007, 05:59 PM
look ma! 20psi boost on my stock Yaris!
BOOM
20psi is too much for own engines... the maximmun for a correct functionality is 8-10 psi (215hp more or less)
Doc Zaius
08-07-2007, 06:26 PM
Wow... way to revive a dead thread! :tongue:
But anyway... carlosh: no way is 10 psi on a car that has 1500cc of displacement and redlines @ 6,500RPM gonna get you up to 215hp... maybe 160 or so. Or maybe if you have some crazy freon cooling radiator system to lower the intake charge temperature to -100! :wink:
Vanderkitten
08-07-2007, 06:57 PM
So, if the XB Supercharger kit can be made to work relatively easily (some new tabs on the intake manifold, a new gasket and idler pulley...) why not the Greddy XB turbo kit?
Abodame99
08-07-2007, 08:22 PM
Why is everyone giving shit to these people who want to put forced induction on their yaris. It's not your car, what do you care?
Make sure you upgrade your transmission. Stock Yaris transission is only rated to hold 150 HP.
joey1320
08-07-2007, 09:36 PM
Why is everyone giving shit to these people who want to put forced induction on their yaris. It's not your car, what do you care?
i don't think people are giving him shit just pointing out that to get that amount of whp is gonna take a lot of money.
i for one answered his question and i'm putting a turbo kit for my car as we speak.:wink:
Vic-2NZFE
08-08-2007, 09:21 AM
Make sure you upgrade your transmission. Stock Yaris transission is only rated to hold 150 HP.
150 HP is more than enogh for this little car :bellyroll:
slopokevitz
08-08-2007, 01:20 PM
i'd like to see 200whp out of the 1.5 i know it probaly wont happen for a long time tho. i agree with the 150 160 hp statement. i think with that much it wouldnt seem so gutless.
I saw an episode of best motoring, touge thingy with a '00 Vitz thumping out the 200ponies. Was'nt the RS, some local tune shops project, got ranked pretty high too.
Vanderkitten
08-08-2007, 02:27 PM
Well be haved micros rarely make history...
cali yaris
08-08-2007, 02:31 PM
I guess I may have to be the guinea pig.... again. :wink:
Turbo&Auto
08-08-2007, 02:34 PM
The amount of psi you can run more depends on what turbo, not the motor! PSI is JUST a measure of resistance of air getting thru the TB.
You can make 200 crank HP, prolly not to the wheels though. 180ish to the wheels is feasable and realistic. Get a decent sized turbo, you actually want a lil lag. Newer cars dont like boost under 3K RPM, the ECU's are VERY smart and wont change from closed to open loop until you hit certain conditions. If you go with a standalone like PFC or Hyrda it wont matter then.
I would go with a GT28R or GT28RS. 12-15psi should be more then enough to make the power you're looking for, 10 is prolly enough.
yorhomierussian
09-05-2007, 06:15 PM
look ma! 20psi boost on my stock Yaris!
BOOM
LOL that made me laugh. :evil: oops.
cali yaris
09-06-2007, 03:03 AM
How about a GT2554R?
There is no way you could run 12-15 pounds on that 1.5L for long without rods and rings.
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