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junorico24
07-06-2012, 09:37 AM
I have a 2007 LB. I am looking to lower it. It has 74 thousand KM on the clock.Stock suspension seems ok, however it's high up the ground. Time to drop it low. It's daily driver.I have on 15 x 6.5 rims.
Any suggestions?
Betrivent
07-06-2012, 09:57 AM
With that size wheel, you can do almost anything to it to drop it. Cheapest option would probably be Tanabe NF210s. However, Tanabe springs do not last very long - they rust easily.
Or you can get some springs from Garm at Micro Image. He has some decently aggresive ones for under 200 I believe. HE has them made to order.
springs or coilovers depending how low you want. If you want springs, once my megan coilovers are on I will be selling my ksport springs.
junorico24
07-06-2012, 10:17 AM
springs or coilovers depending how low you want. If you want springs, once my megan coilovers are on I will be selling my ksport springs.
I haven't decided yet.It's a daily driver. Bro give me the pros and cons on both.
:help:
shocks and springs are cheaper, but non adjustable. Coil overs are adjustable, all for height, and some for damper as well.
I have Megan Racing coilovers I bought from Micro Image, and I love them. It rides so much better than stock, and the only time you really know it is stiffer is larger bumps on the highway.
Some coilovers are less stiff, other are more so. Same for shocks. It really depends on what type of ride you are looking for.
coilovers = adjustable, a lot lower, expensive
springs = not adjustable, around 1"-2" of drop, relatively cheap.
springs...($150-$225)
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Springs_c19.htm
coilovers...($860-$1900)
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Coilovers_c20.htm
most guys around here go with micro image. I have had good luck with them. I have bought quite a few items from them and have always been happy. I actually run the H+R springs with a mild drop of about an inch. I was going for handling.
Thirty-Nine
07-06-2012, 02:45 PM
Here's my experience:
I had Megan Racing coilovers and found them way too stiff for daily driving, even when adjusted to full soft. Plus, the paint on my springs peeled off after 13 months and the springs started to rust.
I currently have Tokico HP shocks/struts and Tein S-tech springs. It's a much more comfortable street setup, but the handling is still very good. In fact, I'd argue it's a better setup for those who primarily drive their Yaris on the street. It feels more connected to the road and isn't as easily upset by imperfections in the pavement. I like it very much.
If I were to do coilovers again, I'd go with the Tein setup. Although it does not have adjustable damping, I rarely used it on the Megan Racing units.
Im waiting on some megans... hope they dont break my back
thebarber
07-06-2012, 04:02 PM
i had megan coilovers, too. very firm for a daily driver
ive also used eibach prokits, i currently have eibach sportlines. ive also been in a couple yarii with megan springs....much more comfortable
ive been in crandalls yaris with tein basic coilovers and found them too soft....i have h-tech on my vibe and they are oem comfy, but oem soft
i love my progressive rate eibachs....id run tokico's and eibachs....i never really mess with the height once its set
junorico24
07-06-2012, 04:22 PM
i had megan coilovers, too. very firm for a daily driver
ive also used eibach prokits, i currently have eibach sportlines. ive also been in a couple yarii with megan springs....much more comfortable
ive been in crandalls yaris with tein basic coilovers and found them too soft....i have h-tech on my vibe and they are oem comfy, but oem soft
i love my progressive rate eibachs....id run tokico's and eibachs....i never really mess with the height once its set
SOLD!
Tukicos and Eibach springs package it is.:clap::thumbup: How much drop do we get from this set up?
thebarber
07-06-2012, 05:00 PM
Prokits are 1"
Sportlines are about 1.7"
junorico24
07-06-2012, 06:33 PM
Thanks, homies!!
G-Ammo
07-06-2012, 06:34 PM
I got Eibach Lowering springs, specially for the XP9. 2,5cm drop all around... It's not ''that'' noticable from the outside, but if you put some wheelspacers on ur rims you'll definatly see it has been lowered. Also the ride is amazing! Cornering is doable even with over 100km/h.
thebarber
07-06-2012, 08:27 PM
Ya, 2.5cm = 1" ...
Prokits + 205/55/15 tires (dolls the fenders more)
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b339/dabarber/yaris/prokits/100_6855.jpg
CrankyOldMan
07-06-2012, 11:53 PM
I put in a set of Tokico Blues and Tien s-techs about 2 weeks ago and I'm pretty satisfied with them. It's a 2" drop, but I'm also running small on my tires (205/50R15) so things like a trip through a carwash is right out. Combined with a TRD rear sway bar, it now corners almost dead flat, and even stresses the sidewalls of the tires.
DeathBeard
07-10-2012, 10:08 PM
tokico blues an tein stechs ftw!
ruvios
07-13-2012, 03:36 AM
hey guys. what about wheels on 205/40/17? what is the best thing for this kind of tire?
planning to get Tein S-Tech with a 1.5 drop. what do you think? need a 1 to a tight 1 finger gap.
thanks.
nimuntak
07-14-2012, 08:03 PM
I'm selling Tein coil overs from my Yaris, $1100.
Text me if you're interested (587) 894-2501
xtremist
09-04-2012, 03:37 AM
hey guys. what about wheels on 205/40/17? what is the best thing for this kind of tire?
planning to get Tein S-Tech with a 1.5 drop. what do you think? need a 1 to a tight 1 finger gap.
thanks.
i got the same tire as you want (205/40/17). mine is Nitto tires (Japan). I got a problem because my G-games wheel has +40 offset, the rear tires are rubbing on the fender when Im fully loaded even in a small uneven surface...Im planning to change my wheels sooner or later:iono:
Kaotic Lazagna
09-04-2012, 03:40 AM
i got the same tire as you want (205/40/17). mine is Nitto tires (Japan). I got a problem because my G-games wheel has +40 offset, the rear tires are rubbing on the fender when Im fully loaded even in a small uneven surface...Im planning to change my wheels sooner or later:iono:
Rubbing with +40 offset? Only time I started rubbing was when I had 17x7.5, ET28 with 205/40/17 tires. Rolled the rear fenders, and rubbing went away. Now I'm on 17x8, ET32 in the back, and no rubbing.
xtremist
09-04-2012, 04:50 AM
Rubbing with +40 offset? Only time I started rubbing was when I had 17x7.5, ET28 with 205/40/17 tires. Rolled the rear fenders, and rubbing went away. Now I'm on 17x8, ET32 in the back, and no rubbing.
ya, that's why i need to check again, the funny thing is that Im not the one having this same prob. one of my friend also having the same specs of the tire and the most of the rubbing is only on the right rear tire. he just put a stopper on his spring and the rubbing is gone during uneven surface.:confused:
ya, that's why i need to check again, the funny thing is that Im not the one having this same prob. one of my friend also having the same specs of the tire and the most of the rubbing is only on the right rear tire. he just put a stopper on his spring and the rubbing is gone during uneven surface.:confused:
That is odd that you are rubbing on that set up. On 8" wide wheel, +20 on 195s I barely rubbed. I was pm 15s but my fender gap is non existant so I should be rubbing a lot more than you if you're rubbing already.
I did have the same thing you describe where only my rear driver tire rubbed which was caused by the seating postion combined with the lower spring rate in the rear.
Try rolling/pulling the fenders
xtremist
09-04-2012, 10:56 AM
That is odd that you are rubbing on that set up. On 8" wide wheel, +20 on 195s I barely rubbed. I was pm 15s but my fender gap is non existant so I should be rubbing a lot more than you if you're rubbing already.
I did have the same thing you describe where only my rear driver tire rubbed which was caused by the seating postion combined with the lower spring rate in the rear.
Try rolling/pulling the fenders
thanks bro...
Kaotic Lazagna
09-04-2012, 03:06 PM
ya, that's why i need to check again, the funny thing is that Im not the one having this same prob. one of my friend also having the same specs of the tire and the most of the rubbing is only on the right rear tire. he just put a stopper on his spring and the rubbing is gone during uneven surface.:confused:
Mind taking some closer pics of your wheel/tire and fender? Shouldn't be rubbing too badly (if at all) with +40 unless your rims are super wide.
Mz3oh5
09-09-2013, 09:05 PM
Y does my car lag when I turn fast corners? Will my lowering springs have any affect once I get them installed? Any advice?
junorico24
09-10-2013, 04:55 AM
Y does my car lag when I turn fast corners? Will my lowering springs have any affect once I get them installed? Any advice?
Because your have a sub woofer at the back. That's why, IMO.
The springs will improve the handling.
Y does my car lag when I turn fast corners? Will my lowering springs have any affect once I get them installed? Any advice?
what do you mean by lag can you expound on this?
Mz3oh5
09-11-2013, 02:29 PM
Junorico24 thank your for your opinion, 1.5 (located in Tampa) I like your FB page maybe because I was born & raised in Miami :)
It drifts a little on a side like on sharp right turns. I have to break continuously before I turn instead of turning and keeping my momentum. Will a rear sway bar make any improvements?
Junorico24 thank your for your opinion, 1.5 (located in Tampa) I like your FB page maybe because I was born & raised in Miami :)
It drifts a little on a side like on sharp right turns. I have to break continuously before I turn instead of turning and keeping my momentum. Will a rear sway bar make any improvements?
Stiffer springs would help some, but a sway bar would help a LOT. :thumbsup:
Junorico24 thank your for your opinion, 1.5 (located in Tampa) I like your FB page maybe because I was born & raised in Miami :)
It drifts a little on a side like on sharp right turns. I have to break continuously before I turn instead of turning and keeping my momentum. Will a rear sway bar make any improvements?
yes and thank you
Stiffer springs would help some, but a sway bar would help a LOT. :thumbsup:
this ^^ and dampers other torsion beams like sway/room bars/x braces/under body bracing/tires/wider wheel base from spacers... might be more too, lowering the car will lower the center of gravity and reduce body roll too
Mz3oh5
09-11-2013, 04:30 PM
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ADVICE. I feel better communicating with individuals who understand & drive my car.
I should stop driving fast, but I cant help it. I think im going to start with installing a TRD Rear Sway Bar which should be easy considering it has 4 bolts. I finally found a place who can install my TEIN Lowering Springs if anyone is interested I can show you a picture of how my car looks like before & after (in the future).
**BTW dont call Toyota dealership to install lowering springs they quoted me $900 & I also called a Tire & Auto Centers they quoted $1,000 & they tried to talk me out of it saying it will mess up my suspension .... really, then y do people still do it hahaha. I trust Toyota dealership than any other new establishment, but since when does lowering your car ever come out to $1,000 (I can save that money to do a paint job) ! Its usually $300-$600
Do it yourself it is not that hard and costs almost no money
freshvitz
09-26-2013, 07:08 PM
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR ADVICE. I feel better communicating with individuals who understand & drive my car.
I should stop driving fast, but I cant help it. I think im going to start with installing a TRD Rear Sway Bar which should be easy considering it has 4 bolts. I finally found a place who can install my TEIN Lowering Springs if anyone is interested I can show you a picture of how my car looks like before & after (in the future).
**BTW dont call Toyota dealership to install lowering springs they quoted me $900 & I also called a Tire & Auto Centers they quoted $1,000 & they tried to talk me out of it saying it will mess up my suspension .... really, then y do people still do it hahaha. I trust Toyota dealership than any other new establishment, but since when does lowering your car ever come out to $1,000 (I can save that money to do a paint job) ! Its usually $300-$600
Dealer ship will charge $$$ due to the fact that they have higher overhead cost. Besides, it's just springs. You can probably do it on your own if you have the proper tools. What made you go with Teins? Add some chassis parts and you'll have less body roll and it'll help a small car like a Yaris.
freshvitz
09-26-2013, 07:09 PM
With that size wheel, you can do almost anything to it to drop it. Cheapest option would probably be Tanabe NF210s. However, Tanabe springs do not last very long - they rust easily.
Or you can get some springs from Garm at Micro Image. He has some decently aggresive ones for under 200 I believe. HE has them made to order.
Cheapest or inexpensive? Tanane makes decent products but any product in harsh conditions will not last. Ride wise, Tanabe springs will not sag over time like other brands.
cali yaris
09-26-2013, 07:14 PM
Our Micro Image springs don't sag either, just to be clear.
Neurotic Hapi Snak
09-30-2013, 03:34 PM
Would lowering my car help with body lift? At highway speeds, I can just feel the body lift up off the springs. With the boxy body and light weight, gusts of wind on the highway cause horrible body sway. At low speeds, the stock springs don't handle half bad, I just hate the sway at high speeds. And don't laugh, but a trailer hitch stiffens up the rear of the body.
Would lowering my car help with body lift? At highway speeds, I can just feel the body lift up off the springs. With the boxy body and light weight, gusts of wind on the highway cause horrible body sway. At low speeds, the stock springs don't handle half bad, I just hate the sway at high speeds. And don't laugh, but a trailer hitch stiffens up the rear of the body.
I would think any introduction of stiffer springs, struts, and/ or tire sidewalls would help to negate being pushed around on the road by wind. It will likely always feel that way with any car that is lightweight and has tall sides. My wife used to have a 2008 Beetle and it did it pretty bad too. And that was a heavier car than a Yaris..
And I believe that about the hitch. These cars are made of very thin metal, so any laterally mounted thick chunk of steel is going to stiffen things up. :rolleyes:
junorico24
10-01-2013, 01:46 AM
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s457/Ridko29/89e126b6-0c0b-441f-abdb-920509296cfe.jpg
I'm not just looking. I will be lowering it for sure.:thumbup:
Mz3oh5
10-05-2013, 01:26 PM
I was going with Tein because they are springs that provide the maximum lowering height. The lower I can get the better the car it will look. My car looks cute from a far, but once you get close you see that the car needs to be lowered. It pisses me off everytime I look at it. lol
junorico24
10-08-2013, 04:34 AM
I was going with Tein because they are springs that provide the maximum lowering height. The lower I can get the better the car it will look. My car looks cute from a far, but once you get close you see that the car needs to be lowered. It pisses me off everytime I look at it. lol
http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s457/Ridko29/b1b7b836-8521-4de9-bd1f-d935f2adf2a4.jpg
To motivate you..:w00t:
http://s1052.photobucket.com/user/Ridko29/media/c9ddd67f-6ffe-4b4e-b6fa-55c711d8dc54.jpg.html?state=copy
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