Any news on 2013 Yaris (non-hybrid) models yet?

[Yaris_Fan]

direct fuel injection/CVT in the future?

[why?]

since the 2012 is a much different car, i doubt toyota will do anything to them for a while.

[12 yaris]

Turbo diesel would be cool,sun roof,5 or 6 spd.,at.,trans.,different tailights
rear disc brakes (all models)...

[12 yaris]

CONVERTIBLE!!!!!

[CPALK719]

CONVERTIBLE!!!!!

i actually think that would look pretty damn cool !

[IllQueens]

Upgrade Engine to 2ZZ-GE 1.8 VVTL-i but would be happy with 1ZZ-FE and Entune...

[12 yaris]

There might be a small increase in price for 2013....
The iq will increase 120.00.....

[Volcano]

CONVERTIBLE!!!!!

Afraid there won't be such a thing. How about adding an aftermarket canvas top like this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fiymguJc0I

Currently considering.

[12 yaris]

installed one of these in a van a long time ago...

[nookandcrannycar]

Afraid there won't be such a thing. How about adding an aftermarket canvas top like this ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fiymguJc0I

Currently considering.

I wonder, to what extent KPL/MPG would be reduced with such an installation on a Yaris?

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ I stopped at the store after making the above post and the September 2012 issue of Motor Trend was sitting on a display shelf. This issue lists each new car and has a little blurb about each car. I glanced at the issue and read the blurb on the 2013 Yaris. The only two items mentioned were the sedan being gone (so I imagine no more fleet availability for the sedan) and the 'Bluetooth hands free phone/streaming, HD Radio etc' stereo being standard for all models. I looked on the Toyota USA website and this stereo is already standard on the LE and the SE, so the L would then get this as standard for 2013. Tooter is probably right about the hand crank windows being gone for 2013, but I hope not:biggrin:.

[2012YarisSE]

^^^^^ I stopped at the store after making the above post and the September 2012 issue of Motor Trend was sitting on a display shelf. This issue lists each new car and has a little blurb about each car. I glanced at the issue and read the blurb on the 2013 Yaris. The only two items mentioned were the sedan being gone (so I imagine no more fleet availability for the sedan) and the 'Bluetooth hands free phone/streaming, HD Radio etc' stereo being standard for all models. I looked on the Toyota USA website and this stereo is already standard on the LE and the SE, so the L would then get this as standard for 2013. Tooter is probably right about the hand crank windows being gone for 2013, but I hope not:biggrin:.
Why you like cranking those windows up and down?:wink::wink:I rented a 2012 Yaris base L with crank windows for a trip and lost some skin on my knuckles cranking those windows.:laugh:

[nookandcrannycar]

Why you like cranking those windows up and down?:wink::wink:I rented a 2012 Yaris base L with crank windows for a trip and lost some skin on my knuckles cranking those windows.:laugh:

A fairly wide range of reasons.

1. It is one more thing to go wrong. I've encountered a fair number of people in my life who have had the up/down on one or all of their power windows give out and and have had to pay to have a repair performed. I have never encountered anyone who has had the track on a manual window completely fail (although I'm sure there have been some...especially on much older cars). I have only had a manual crank window go off track once in one of my cars and I was able to pop off the door panel and fix it myself.

2. Control. Let's say (for argument's sake) I park my car in a narrow access uphill spot on a hot day (where I can't keep the door open) and I go to a restaurant for a meal. I return (after the restaurant in this bucolic area has closed---lets say it is like Le Peep and closes at 2pm), and my car won't start (it won't even turn over)...and, given the physical parameters of the situation, I can't compression start my car. While I'm waiting for AAA I have to suffer the heat build up in my car because I can't roll the window down. I like the likelihood of not being able to start my car and not being able to lower the windows to be as close to zero as possible.

3. 'Piggyness'. My friends growing up loved pre 'auto everything' Porsches and BMWs and took that old BMW adage that 'Performance is the only thing that makes an expensive car worth the money' to heart. They looked at cars with power windows/locks/seats etc. as 'luxury pig cars' (especially Lincolns and Cadillacs) with unnecessary equipment.

4. Thrift. If power windows are a stand alone option (or grouped with other things I don't want) I don't want to pay for things I don't want.

5. Sentiment. When my little cousin (whom I love like a daughter) was in the very EARLY stages of her 'Kids will say and do the darndest things' years (Ages '2 1/2 to 3 until 7) she used to love to (along with opening and closing all the glove boxes/compartments/dash cup holders etc.---hence the moniker 'nookandcrannycar') roll the windows up and down (when parked in a lot with plenty of room....and her mother or I in the driver's seat). In the early evening after her first day of Kindergarten I was sitting outside her house in the driver's seat of my Yaris. She was sitting in my lap, with sunglasses on and my (or her mother's) powered off cell phone against her ear, and had her foot resting on the Yaris temperature dial. Except for the foot part, she was modeling her mother. I thought she might bend the seating of the temperature dial with the weight she was putting on it, but she seemed so comfortable I didn't want to tell her to move her foot. The mom in a neighbor family came out of her house to roll their now empty trash can back to the side of their house. My car was parked on the neighbor's side of the street and facing against traffic. The neighbor saw us and smiled. She asked how the the first day of Kindergarten had gone (her kids had had the same teacher). I pointed to the top of my cousin's head and said "she's pretending to call her teacher". The neighbor laughed and then continued back to her house with the trash can. The Subaru 'Baby Driver' commercial is my favorite commercial and every time I see it I think of that day. The temperature dial on the dash of my Yaris has been crooked since that day and when I notice it I smile.

..... there are probably other reasons, but these are the main ones. I notice that when I roll the window, I grab the crank at an angle and with the tips of my fingers...so I don't have the knuckle issue you do. I have big hands and have from a fairly young age (I'm 6' 3" and I was 6' when I was 13), so maybe I just got used to always rolling car windows up and down that way.

[nookandcrannycar]

I just plugged in the search "will the 2013 Toyota Yaris have hand crank windows" into the DuckDuckGo search engine. One of the hits that came up was an article entitled: Why It Is Immoral for Automakers To Sell Cars With Crank Windows. This terrible (IMHO) article is from 2009. I find the COMMENTS FAR MORE INTERESTING than the article. A fair number of wise commenters dismantle this article and bring up valid, helpful advantages of having hand crank windows that I'd never thought of (and I've thought about quite a few different advantages).

[Jamus]

I love my hand cranks. I also love how my 2012 L has crank windows but power locks. Best of both worlds in my opinion.

[edmscan]

One of the things I love about my Yaris ... is that I don't have to roll up and down them damn windows anymore. I have never had a car before that has had power anything. My Tercel, Civic and Accord sure never had ANY fun power toys so I am happy now.

So to me ... I am loving all the power toys (love the power locks too) that my Yaris has. As I bought the car used .. I really didn't have to pay for the toys. I think that they were just those nice to have items. Am I worried ... no, it is a Toyota.

Besides as far as I know CTScott (and he is the Yaris god after all) is adding power toys to his latest Yaris, so if they are reliable enough for him .. then they are reliable enough for me.

[nookandcrannycar]

One of the things I love about my Yaris ... is that I don't have to roll up and down them damn windows anymore. I have never had a car before that has had power anything. My Tercel, Civic and Accord sure never had ANY fun power toys so I am happy now.

So to me ... I am loving all the power toys (love the power locks too) that my Yaris has. As I bought the car used .. I really didn't have to pay for the toys. I think that they were just those nice to have items. Am I worried ... no, it is a Toyota.

Besides as far as I know CTScott (and he is the Yaris god after all) is adding power toys to his latest Yaris, so if they are reliable enough for him .. then they are reliable enough for me.

I agree with you re the power locks, but not the windows. One of the comments (same webpage) about the 2009 article I mentioned above put forward a scenario where the battery might get crushed in an accident. What if you have the windows up all the way and that happens? Could make for a very dangerous scenario. Even if damage in an accident extended to the driver door, if you could roll down the window even a bit, you'd likely have a better chance of breaking the window to get out. This 'power to the windows cut off in an accident scenario' isn't part of a reliability equation, so it doesn't matter that our cars are reliable Toyotas.

[nookandcrannycar]

I love my hand cranks. I also love how my 2012 L has crank windows but power locks. Best of both worlds in my opinion.

I agree, except one of the things I don't like about the 2012 (even the L) is that you can't open the hatch with a traditional key.

[edmscan]

I agree with you re the power locks, but not the windows.

I do agree that the mentioned scenario could happen .. but really I will accept the odds and not lose any sleep over it happening.

Really at that point .. if I cannot easily break the window, I would depend on the fire department to get me out. This is the reason that I always carry my cell phone in my pocket when I am driving. Just in case something happens.

[carolinablue]

Why manual windows? In three words: weight, reliabilty, and cost.

[nookandcrannycar]

I do agree that the mentioned scenario could happen .. but really I will accept the odds and not lose any sleep over it happening.

Really at that point .. if I cannot easily break the window, I would depend on the fire department to get me out. This is the reason that I always carry my cell phone in my pocket when I am driving. Just in case something happens.

When I was typing my previous post I thought, well HE'D be able to break the window (you mentioned your height and weight on some threat about driving comfort), but someone very diminutive and petite might not be able to. I decided to leave that thought out and see if you'd mention it. Obviously, people are different and have different reasons for having the attitudes and feelings that they do re certain things. I am what some might consider unusual combination of glass half full adventurer with some Chicken Little the sky is falling (but can also be truly falling) thrown in. My giving the battery scenario thought probably falls within the Chicken Little realm:biggrin:. The issue isn't a deal breaker. If hand crank windows disappear, that won't prevent me from getting a Yaris or a Prius C, I just STRONGLY prefer the hand crank windows.

If I'm 'on the fence' mileage wise re being ready to get a new car at the time hand crank windows go away (I'm thinking 1 year from now) this issue might be enough to get me to buy early. If that date ends up being a few weeks from now (when the 2013s come out) that is too soon and not enough to get me to buy at that time. Some of the new (to them) issues that some members ahead of me in miles have been having recently have made me think that I'll re-evaluate keeping this particular Yaris (as opposed to trading it in on a new Yaris or Prius C) once I get to 300k miles rather than going 'hog wild'/no doubt to 500k+ miles.

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ Oops, thread not threat (typo).

[edmscan]

I was watching a Yaris Hybrid video on YouTube .. and that may be the next car for me. Wonder if they will have it in Canada soon ?

But realistically I have only had my Yaris for 4 months now .. and I think that I really need to do as I have done with my previous vehicles and drive them til they die. So .. I could conceivably have my present Yaris for another 10 years.
I drove my Tercel til it died .. and I am amazed that the car lasted as long as it did. So the Yaris should be able to do just as well ..

[nookandcrannycar]

Why manual windows? In three words: weight, reliabilty, and cost.

:thumbsup: safety (and reliability). I also wonder how much the extra weight would hurt MPG (probably negligible).

[nookandcrannycar]

I was watching a Yaris Hybrid video on YouTube .. and that may be the next car for me. Wonder if they will have it in Canada soon ?

But realistically I have only had my Yaris for 4 months now .. and I think that I really need to do as I have done with my previous vehicles and drive them til they die. So .. I could conceivably have my present Yaris for another 10 years.
I drove my Tercel til it died .. and I am amazed that the car lasted as long as it did. So the Yaris should be able to do just as well ..

I have a similar approach, but I also balance it with how much more dollar wise am I going to have to put into it to get how many more miles and what is the current market value of the car.

I like the styling cues of the Yaris Hybrid better than the Prius C. I wish we were getting the Yaris Hybrid here in the U.S. rather than the C :cry:. A previous CT reply said something about the C and the Yaris Hybrid being basically the same car. There is a slightly over 2 inch difference in the wheelbase...any idea why?

[Yar Is Word]

http://www.worldcarfans.com/112010939538/2013-toyota-yaris-hsd-spied-with-light-disguise

[nookandcrannycar]

http://www.worldcarfans.com/112010939538/2013-toyota-yaris-hsd-spied-with-light-disguise

Sigh. I wish we in the U.S. were getting this instead of the Prius C....I like the styling details better than on the Prius C.

[edmscan]

The picture above shows a nicer Yaris than the one I had seen previously on a Yaris Hybrid. (I believe it was from a member from Norway ..)

The one pictured above I actually like ... it has nice lines and the front of the vehicle actually looks reasonable.

( I believe if you look at the pictures ... there is a 2012 Yaris Hybrid and a 2013 Yaris Hybrid. I very much prefer the 2013 model .. based on the pictures alone).

[kimona]

^^^ The nose on that thing is hideous!

[edmscan]

The nose on that thing is hideous!

Depends on where you stand ... to me I would take the 2013 pictured above and kick the 2012 model to the curb ( that one to me is a lot more painful to look at).

[Jamus]

I may be new to this stuff, but to me, that white one looks exactly like my 2012 if you remove all the white tape they use to mask what it looks like.

[baseballfan416]

Amusing thread... I see merit with having power locks (less likely to scratch car, convenient to unlock car as you're running up to car in the rain or carrying bags limiting free hand), but power windows? Seriously?! Since when did cranking windows become a full contact sport? I can only view this as pure laziness or impatience (or both).

[edmscan]

Once you have power windows .. you will never go back. They are a close 2nd to power locks, which are the best invention ever.

[bronsin]

The styling in that picture is going in the wrong direction. Has anyone noticed the styling of MBs and BMWs lately? They used to be nice subtle, understated designs. They put a lot of thought into the mechanicals of their cars.

Now they are getting real "busy" in how the car looks and its not a good busy either.

My wish for the 2013 Yaris is the 1 liter engine coupled to the auto clutch transmission of the Smart Car (it slows down when you take your foot off the gas like a manaul transmission does)

That and get the weight down to ~1800 pounds.

No diesel or turbo diesel unless its ~500 cc's. Diesel is more than gas now so any advantage in mpg is canceled by paying more for fuel and the initial purchase price (think HYBRID)

[nookandcrannycar]

Once you have power windows .. you will never go back. They are a close 2nd to power locks, which are the best invention ever.

Once SOME people have power windows, they will never go back. .....there.....that looks better:biggrin:. I've had power windows on a car or two I've owned in the past and I just prefer hand crank windows. There is only one other member of my family who feels the way I do, but there are at least a few more here on Yarisworld:biggrin:.

[nookandcrannycar]

Amusing thread... I see merit with having power locks (less likely to scratch car, convenient to unlock car as you're running up to car in the rain or carrying bags limiting free hand), but power windows? Seriously?! Since when did cranking windows become a full contact sport? I can only view this as pure laziness or impatience (or both).

I agree with power locks being fine, but only if there is also an avenue to lock and unlock the doors manually. I also dislike that you can't open the hatch on the 3rd Gen 3-door with a traditional key.

[nookandcrannycar]

The styling in that picture is going in the wrong direction. Has anyone noticed the styling of MBs and BMWs lately? They used to be nice subtle, understated designs. They put a lot of thought into the mechanicals of their cars.

Now they are getting real "busy" in how the car looks and its not a good busy either.

My wish for the 2013 Yaris is the 1 liter engine coupled to the auto clutch transmission of the Smart Car (it slows down when you take your foot off the gas like a manaul transmission does)

That and get the weight down to ~1800 pounds.

No diesel or turbo diesel unless its ~500 cc's. Diesel is more than gas now so any advantage in mpg is canceled by paying more for fuel and the initial purchase price (think HYBRID)

I agree with you re MB and some BMWs. Re the interiors though, MB has the same business and other negatives holding back their interior execution, but I think the execution of the interior on nearly every model of BMW is better than any other manufacturer. IF a person leads a high stress life, I could see why that person would want to buy any level of BMW. There is just something calming about sitting in one. IMO, only recent BMW designs have achieved this. BMW, for quite a few years, had a charity breast cancer event in the parking lot at Candlestick Park in San Francisco. They would set up a course with cones and had most of the models there set to drive on the course. For some reason, I would usually get an invitation in the mail. I don't remember having the feeling I do now while sitting in and driving those BMWs.

If it meant appreciably better fuel economy, I think it would be great if Toyota brought the 1.3 liter gas engine to the U.S. for the Yaris. The reduction in horsepower wouldn't bother me at all.

[mr9865]

Looks like the Base Yaris L gets the upgraded stereo this year. Thats the only difference between the 12's I could find in the pdf. The auto mpg rating went up to 30-36. Manual went down to 30-37

[b20vteg]

The auto mpg rating went up to 30-36. Manual went down to 30-37

strange... i wonder what changed? :confused:

[nookandcrannycar]

strange... i wonder what changed? :confused:

Me too :confused:.