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*MAD DOG*
07-09-2012, 03:30 AM
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/8496390/woman-shot-while-dancing-with-cop

SailDesign
07-09-2012, 08:23 AM
MadDog - a friend posted this link, and I immediately thought "Why hasn't Tony posted this yet?" :smile:

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/wesley-warren-jr-shies-surgery-fix-gigantic-100-lbs-scrotum-article-1.1098278

*MAD DOG*
07-09-2012, 09:36 AM
That guy has some balls. Lol.

MadMax
07-09-2012, 11:56 AM
Something odd about that original story, I would be interested in hear how he was carrying (holster, location, etc). I've had numerous people hug me while I was carrying (I'm a loveable guy in person! :biggrin:) and while a few have felt my concealed firearm, there is no way they could have accidentally discharged it.

Unless he was carrying "Mexican style" (carrying a gun without a holster, jammed in your waistband up front) there aren't many ways this could have happened. This incident would require the weapon to be carried on the front of the person, most people carry either on the hip or what is known as "appendix carry" meaning in the lower back and to one side.

By the way, the term "Mexican carry" is not a pejorative, it pays homage to the proud Mexican men of the 19th and early 20th Centuries. Beset by tyrants who stripped them of liberties, including the right to carry guns if they were not part of the political elite, these defiant citizens needed to be able to ditch the gun to be retrieved later if they were about to have contact with Federales, and since a holster could not be so quickly ditched and would be prima facie evidence of resistance to tyrants' law, the holster was dispensed with (per The Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry).

Cheers! M2

SailDesign
07-09-2012, 12:06 PM
MadMax, I just reckoned she was "hugging" him while on her knees in front of him...... No other way it could have got a lung and her heart.

SailDesign
07-09-2012, 12:07 PM
That guy has some balls. Lol.

:laugh:

MadMax
07-09-2012, 01:57 PM
MadMax, I just reckoned she was "hugging" him while on her knees in front of him...... No other way it could have got a lung and her heart.

The story (which I should have read more closely) claims she "embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidentally discharge." Now I figure he was wearing a "Miami Vice"-style under-the-shoulder holster. Galco makes one, and I have a leather one that I got in Sarajevo and honestly I never liked it as it does point the weapon directly behind you...

http://www.galcoconcealedcarryholsters.com/images/Miami_Classic.jpg

I used an under-the-shoulder rig but it points the weapon downward...

http://tf2chan.net/fanart/src/129366912714.jpg

Not as easy to draw from, but a lot safer! :thumbsup:

Cheers! M2

MadMax
07-09-2012, 05:37 PM
Well, this (http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120709/METRO01/207090365#ixzz209xTWWsM) negates that theory...

The victim, Adaisha Miller, was dancing behind the officer and "there was some manipulation along the officer's waistline that he did not control" when the department-issued Smith and Wesson M&P-40, a .40-caliber semiautomatic pistol, fired and struck her in the chest, Godbee said.

I'm beginning to think SailDesign's theory was correct! :eek:

nookandcrannycar
07-09-2012, 09:06 PM
Something odd about that original story, I would be interested in hear how he was carrying (holster, location, etc). I've had numerous people hug me while I was carrying (I'm a loveable guy in person! :biggrin:) and while a few have felt my concealed firearm, there is no way they could have accidentally discharged it.

Unless he was carrying "Mexican style" (carrying a gun without a holster, jammed in your waistband up front) there aren't many ways this could have happened. This incident would require the weapon to be carried on the front of the person, most people carry either on the hip or what is known as "appendix carry" meaning in the lower back and to one side.

By the way, the term "Mexican carry" is not a pejorative, it pays homage to the proud Mexican men of the 19th and early 20th Centuries. Beset by tyrants who stripped them of liberties, including the right to carry guns if they were not part of the political elite, these defiant citizens needed to be able to ditch the gun to be retrieved later if they were about to have contact with Federales, and since a holster could not be so quickly ditched and would be prima facie evidence of resistance to tyrants' law, the holster was dispensed with (per The Gun Digest Book of Concealed Carry).

Cheers! M2

Fascinating post :clap:. While reading the last paragraph, the first person who came to mind was Nancy Pelosi.....she who has IMHO draconian views re 'Joe Citizen' bearing arms and has an F rating from the NRA.....yet, of course, SHE HAS A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT! I'm an enthusiastic adopted Texan who, unfortunately, had to hear about (and listen to on TV when a guest outside my home) Nancy Pelosi on a local level before she rose high enough within the H.O.R. to be known nationwide.

MadMax
07-09-2012, 09:28 PM
I may not be the biggest gun enthusiast on this forum, but I'm most definitely in the top three! :biggrin:

tomato
07-15-2012, 12:07 AM
Poor guy is gonna have to live with this for the rest of his life. :(

Careful who you hug, I guess ... (and "how" you hug them ;)

Oh and BTW, MadMax, thoroughly enjoyed your post and the explanation about "Mexican carry."