New member and need wheel advice

[Superstarjr]

First of all this is a fantastic site with a huge amount of priceless information

I am thinking of changing the wheels on my yaris to something a little wider.
Im thinking of buying these wheels but in 16" not 15"
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XXR-513-15X8-00-GUN-METAL-ET0-15-WIDE-WHEELS-XR513-1580-1GM-/251008084571?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_ Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item3a713f6a5b

My question is would these wheel bolt on with no rubbing??
My yaris is standard apart from a cheeky remap ;)

Any help would help me so so soooo much !!

[WeeYari]

My question is would these wheel bolt on with no rubbing??


With an offset of 0, not a hope in hell of no rubbing. Anything with an offset less than 38 gets into rubbing territory depending on tire width.

This is what 0 offset looks like.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y294/Cheekyllama/YARIS/IMG_0936.jpg

[Superstarjr]

Thank you for the mega fast reply
i see the problem now aha
guess i should keep looking ;)

[1.5]

More pics of 15x8.25 + 0

Never was able to lower the car down so its in the air but you can see how badly it sticks outside the fender.

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[Superstarjr]

Yeah :)
Its a real shame really cause i really liked the style of those wheels :/
I can think of a way to fit them legally with no rubbing ??

[vten]

You should be ok with the +25 offsets and 195 width tires .

I have the xxr 527 17x8.25 +25 with tanabe coilover and it doesn't rub ..... It will look a lot better with a negative camber up front if you install the camber bolt .

My camber is -2.8 up front now and I'm very satisfied with the look and handling .

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40482

^ that's my wheel thread ...

[Golddeenoh]

you could talk to Garm about getting fender flares and rock the Yaris as a wide body, but there will need to be some wheel measurements to determine if it can be done and still function and look reasonable.

[1.5]

I can think of a way to fit them legally with no rubbing ??

are stanced out cars illegal in your area :iono:

[yarisugi]

I think the law there prohibits the tire tread from sticking out of the fender. (Looking straight down from the top of the fender to the ground). The loophole is that nothing is mentioned about the wheel. So stretching tires (tyres) on wide wheels makes it legal - technically. The tire tread still sits within the fender. Might not be true but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

OP, you can run 16x7 +15 offset

[Superstarjr]

Where i live (UK) no part of the tire is aloud to stick out from the wheel arch ( fender ) but most police are fairly resonable round my area and seem to allow the tire to stick out but not the tread. same for the mot centers. so not to bad really. I like the idea of really wide tires for the yaris but it needs it to stay as legal as possible ;)

[Superstarjr]

But saying that my 80 series landcruiser tire tread sticks out a bit :confused:

[1.5]

I think the law there prohibits the tire tread from sticking out of the fender. (Looking straight down from the top of the fender to the ground). The loophole is that nothing is mentioned about the wheel. So stretching tires (tyres) on wide wheels makes it legal - technically. The tire tread still sits within the fender. Might not be true but that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

OP, you can run 16x7 +15 offset

Thanks Yarisgui, your legal expertise is unrivaled.

That is a crazy law. I wonder if it is because of the small streets in europe they want to make sure all cars stay within a lane. I don't know why else there would be a need for that.

[Superstarjr]

Yeah our roads are only small i guess :wink:
seems weird to me though beause my landcuiser has tread on the sides of the tires which comes out of the fender a few mm yet the police say nothing and it passes its mots no problem ?? surely thats much more dangerous ?? :iono:

[why?]

wouldn't surprise me if SUV rules were different, in the US especially once a vehicle has a gvwr of over 6000 i think it is pretty much exempt from a ton of rules. Wouldn't surprise me if the rest of the world followed similar ideas.

[tooter]

First of all this is a fantastic site with a huge amount of priceless information

I am thinking of changing the wheels on my yaris to something a little wider.
Im thinking of buying these wheels but in 16" not 15"
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XXR-513-15X8-00-GUN-METAL-ET0-15-WIDE-WHEELS-XR513-1580-1GM-/251008084571?pt=UK_CarParts_Acc_Wheels_tyres_Rims_ Car_Wheels_ET&hash=item3a713f6a5b

My question is would these wheel bolt on with no rubbing??
My yaris is standard apart from a cheeky remap ;)

Any help would help me so so soooo much !!

Hi star, :smile:

I LOVE that style also. they look like Minilite wheels an old 1960's Mini Cooper.
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/1975_Mini_Cooper_Sedan_Vintage_Race_Car_1275_Rear_ 1.jpg


Over the years, Panasport also made this distinctive style as well as Enkei.

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjUyWDcwMA==/$(KGrHqZ,!joE8NDvS1ziBPUPIQmuoQ~~60_12.JPG

I got exactly the same style, except not as deep dished. They're 15X7...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/compost_bin/car/IMG_5924.jpg

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/compost_bin/car/IMG_5942.jpg

The offset is +35 but I had to install 5mm spacers to clear the disk brake calipers.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/compost_bin/car/e59e07d9.jpg

With 195/60 tires, they don't stick out, and don't rub... and the wheels retain their stock diameter so that the odometer and speedometer remain accurate. :smile:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/compost_bin/car/IMG_6010.jpg

[Superstarjr]

Thank you tooter
That's helped so much !! Your car looks stunning by the way. That center exit exhaust look amazing also :)
I'm defornantly going to be on the search for those wheels in the UK

[tooter]

They're Rota RB's, and are manufactured in the Phillipines. :smile:

http://www.rotawheels.com/

[Superstarjr]

Do you think if i was to go with a rota rb 16x8 it would rub ??
cause i want to run a 205x45 or 50 toyo proxes ??

[tooter]

Perhaps someone else will answer that, because I know nothing about the larger wheel sizes.

I do know that the lower the tire aspect number, the shorter the treadwear life. I stayed with 60 series because there are a lot of long lasting high mileage tires to choose from.

[WeeYari]

IMO, 16x7s would be a better choice with the 205 tires. You may rub in the rear over hard dips when carrying rear passengers or cargo.

Also, you have the option of +40 offset. That gives good tire placement up front, and paired with 5mm spacers in the rear would be visually stunning.

[Yaristeve]

I think the law there prohibits the tire tread from sticking out of the fender. (Looking straight down from the top of the fender to the ground).

Actually, I believe that is the law just about everywhere, even here in the US. It's just never enforced (except for crackdowns on cruisers). Kind of like laws that prohibit any part of the chassis from being lower than the bottom of the rim.

If you've ever seen how an open wheel car can launch another open wheel car if the tires rub, you can see why the law was created...

[why?]

Actually, I believe that is the law just about everywhere, even here in the US. It's just never enforced (except for crackdowns on cruisers). Kind of like laws that prohibit any part of the chassis from being lower than the bottom of the rim.

If you've ever seen how an open wheel car can launch another open wheel car if the tires rub, you can see why the law was created...

if that were the case almost all 4x4's and most donks would not be street legal.

[1.5]

Yeah what about all those lifted diesels that barely fit inside the lane. I have never seen anything being done about that law. Is it actually a law?

[why?]

Yeah what about all those lifted diesels that barely fit inside the lane. I have never seen anything being done about that law. Is it actually a law?

no. it could be in the UK, but not in any US state that I have seen. It would make most farm equipment and construction vehicles illegal to drive on the street.

[1.5]

no. it could be in the UK, but not in any US state that I have seen. It would make most farm equipment and construction vehicles illegal to drive on the street.

^^^

[WeeYari]

There is DMV wording in many jurisdictions, including several US states, which indicates wheels cannot protrude past fender walls.

[Superstarjr]

Right before i buy these can some one tell yes or no to whether they will bolt straight on ( with a 5mm spacer on the rear ) with no rubbing with 205/55/16 toyo t1r tyres ??:wink::wink:

http://www.rotashop.co.uk/rb-16-x-8quot-gunmetal-with-polished-lip-set-of-4-wheels-drift-series_p1040445.htm

[WeeYari]

Right before i buy these can some one tell yes or no to whether they will bolt straight on ( with a 5mm spacer on the rear ) with no rubbing with 205/55/16 toyo t1r tyres ??:wink::wink:

http://www.rotashop.co.uk/rb-16-x-8quot-gunmetal-with-polished-lip-set-of-4-wheels-drift-series_p1040445.htm

You will rub.

With 5mm spacers, ET is +30 = rub
55 series sidewall = wheel diameter larger than OEM = rub

Since you are so hooked on this style wheel, get the 16x7s and live worry free.

[Superstarjr]

Big rub or small rub :wink: ?? and what if i go with a 50 or even 45 ??? plus because i live in the uk the 7 inch version is like hens teeth to find :cry: and what if i ditch the spacers. im fairly determined to fit these wheels ahaha

[yarisugi]

I noticed that site doesn't sell 16x7", only 16x8" available with a +35 offset. If you purchase these, you DO NOT need 5mm spacers on the rear.
If you do not plan on lowering your car, 205/55/16 tyres are fine, although they will make your car look look a bit tall.
I suggest 205/50/16 or 205/40/16 if you're going with their wheel and tyre package for around the same price.
I don't know what kind of driving conditions you have there but that's my suggestion.

[Superstarjr]

It's because I live in the uk :/ iv looked on well over 20 English wheel sites to try and find the 16x7 but they just aren't over here. So basically ditch the spacers and fit a lower profile tyre is what your saying then ?? :) cheers

[33OH]

It's because I live in the uk :/ iv looked on well over 20 English wheel sites to try and find the 16x7 but they just aren't over here. So basically ditch the spacers and fit a lower profile tyre is what your saying then ?? :) cheers

Yep, exactly. Get the 16x8 +35, and running a 205/45/16 would be ideal.

As Yarisugi said, a 205/40/16 or 205/50/16 will work, the 40 will just be a little short, and the 50 will be a tad tall.

[Superstarjr]

Sweet will be ordering the wheels within the week !!!

Thank you everyone for all your advice !!
Much appreciated !!!

[tooter]

Right before i buy these can some one tell yes or no to whether they will bolt straight on ( with a 5mm spacer on the rear ) with no rubbing with 205/55/16 toyo t1r tyres ??:wink::wink:

http://www.rotashop.co.uk/rb-16-x-8quot-gunmetal-with-polished-lip-set-of-4-wheels-drift-series_p1040445.htm

Those are absolutely beautiful... :smile:

http://www.rotashop.co.uk/watermark1~Rota~images/rota/rb_gunmetal-425x425.jpg

I got the silver ones and will likely be spraying the centers flat grey for a "cast magnesium" look.

I also got +35's, (however in 15 inch) and the curved wheel spokes did not clear the front brake calipers. They needed thin 5mm spacers and longer lug nut studs to fit. They're very simple to install, by the way. I also added 5mm spacers and longer studs on the rear to keep everything in the same relation.

With 15x7 +35, 5mm spacers make them +30, and 195/60 tires there are no rubbing issues.

The Rotas are prone to more rubbing issues because they have an outer rim which protrudes far beyond the spokes. Whereas all of the modern designs have the spokes at the outer edge of the wheel.

[Superstarjr]

So a 5mm spacer on the front is essential. A small amount of rub won't be the end of the world :wink:

16x8 with a 205 should be fine ??

[WeeYari]

5mm spacer was essential with the 15" tooter has mounted. Most likely not required with the 16" you will be getting. 205/45 rubber is good.

[33OH]

I'd say to go without the spacer unless you notice the wheel hits the caliper. As WeeYari said, on a 16" - it most likely will not hit.

If it does hit, most local tire shops carry 5mm wheel spacers and they can be had for $10-$20.

[Superstarjr]

Ye iv seen a load of them for under ten £. Looks like il be ordering them on the 20th ish :)

Cheers Josh

[bugslife71]

Hey guys,

Need help. Planning on changing my rims to Rota RBs also. Will a 17sx7.5 4x100 with +45 offset fit my car? Planning on wrapping them also with 205/45/17 tires. Considering also that I have lowering springs installed.

Right now my car has this set-up: Rota Destiny rims that are 17s with an offset of +42 running on 205/40/17 tires. Having also the same lowering springs. With this set-up there is no rubbing whatsoever.

Thanks all.

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[MUSKOKA800]

Thanks Yarisgui, your legal expertise is unrivaled.

That is a crazy law. .

Have you seen Formula cars race in the rain?

The purpose of our fenders is to contain water spray. Tread extending out past the fender would generate huge rooster-tails of spray when driven during rain. Not to mention stones and other tread pick-up.
NOT a desirable situation for following drivers. :eyebulge: