Buying a Yaris, probably today.... [Archive] - Toyota Yaris Forums

JML

07-10-2012, 02:41 AM

I don't care, I like the way these things look.

I have my eye on 2 Yarises (Yari, what is plural for Yaris?) Both are hatches and manual trans base model 2 doors.

1. 2008 Red 36000 miles Certified (warranty up to Sep 2015 / 100k mi) $12,400 out the door TTL

2. 2007 Blue 27,000 miles $11,100 out the door TTL.

I am not sure which one to get. They are equal cars as far as that goes, at least to me.

This seems like a good price to me for each one.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=07462&endYear=2013&modelCode1=YARIS&showcaseOwnerId=68645&startYear=1981&makeCode1=TOYOTA&searchRadius=50&maxPrice=11500&listingId=323945761&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=07462&endYear=2013&modelCode1=YARIS&showcaseOwnerId=68645&startYear=1981&makeCode1=TOYOTA&firstRecord=51&searchRadius=50&maxPrice=11500&listingId=324918219&Log=0

tooter

07-10-2012, 03:01 AM

I like the 2007 better. :smile:
Nicer color. Lower mileage, Cheaper.:thumbsup:

edmscan

07-10-2012, 03:07 AM

I too like the color of the 2007 ... and really specs wise they are probably very similar.

nookandcrannycar

07-10-2012, 03:51 AM

I like the 2007 better. :smile:
Nicer color. Lower mileage, Cheaper.:thumbsup:

I agree. I also notice the red has faded on the 2008s that I see.......:biggrin:....but I imagine that is likely due to geography (SE Texas vs New Jersey).

yarisugi

07-10-2012, 04:01 AM

Noooooo! Don't do it! For that much money why not get a later model or save a few more thousand for a 2012 model?
Sorry. It's your money, not mine.

junorico24

07-10-2012, 07:01 AM

Test drive, test drive.Check the engine and also service history. Plus make sure everything works.

Which I'm sure they will.It's a Toyota lol.

bronsin

07-10-2012, 07:20 AM

Whichever one you get good luck with it!

(did you check out Toyotas pricing on new ones? They gave me $4000 for my trade in with a suspect tranny and 0% financing)

JML

07-10-2012, 08:49 AM

The price is out the door. The asking price is 11,300 and 9,900 respectively. I don't have a trade as I sold my WRX before I moved to NJ last week.

So you have found ones cheaper than what I have listed? There are cheaper ones around with MUCH higher mileage. I have to have Manual Trans and Hatchback, mostly Sedans around here for less.

These seem to be solid in the reliability department. Is Toyota Certifed important? That seems to be the biggest difference between these two.

daf62757

07-10-2012, 09:30 AM

Yea I would go with the lower mileage too. They are mechanically identical and once you buy it, you will drive it for 300,000 miles. Save the money and get the cheaper one with less mileage!

bronsin

07-10-2012, 09:30 AM

Hmm maybe yes maybe no. Personally I tend to go with a private sale if Im going used.

However i have noticed (looking for used cars for my son) that a lot of people are selling used cars with problems.

You might be doing the right thing by going with a dealer used car if they have a good track recoed in your experience...

JML

07-10-2012, 09:36 AM

There is only 1 private sale of a Yaris around here. I pretty much have to go through the dealer.

The dealer with the cheaper Yaris is sort of far, the other dealer would come and get me (I have no car at the moment).

I don't think the price will move much. The Yaris is a really good car for these parts and they seem to sell sort of quick.

WeeYari

07-10-2012, 09:41 AM

I'd go with the '07.

I won't make any comments on price. You know your territory/availability/pricing and I believe it is pointless for anyone geographically removed to comment on $.

Hershey

07-10-2012, 12:50 PM

Go with the one that pleases you most . Take them both alone ( if possible ) for another test drive on some quiet rough streets to listen for any noises ( suspension , etc. ) . Then pull over in a parking lot to look at the top of the engine and under for any leaks . I've found some '07s and '08s to have a valve cover leak on the backside corner on the passenger side . Bring a flashlight and use it to look through the oil fill to look for any excessive varnish . Check dipstick for any varnish too . Then check air filter to see if changed . Then run finger on inside of tailpipe to check for any soot . If any these things exist , may be a sign of neglect . Last , look at the coolant resorvoir before driving to see if it's low . If so , could be water pump issue . Good luck and keep us informed on your purchase .

suckerface

07-10-2012, 01:31 PM

I have that blue color in an '08, and while I would have preferred the darker color, it certainly grew on me. On the plus side, cops don't see it. Literally. I almost got t-boned by a State Trooper pulling onto the interstate while I was going 70mph. Red cars are a bit more noticeable. Granted, this doesn't matter if you don't drive like, well, like I tend to ;)

My build thread: http://www.microimageonline.com/forums/showthread.php/2334-suckerface-s-08-3dr-HB-quot-%C3%86nimus-quot-(56k-WARNING!!)

edmscan

07-10-2012, 05:30 PM

I don't know about the US but I know that in Canada here a new 2012 Yaris is being advertised on Toyota's website as being $13,500. (Correction ... the ALL IN price with taxes etc is $16,475)

The prices that you have listed for the used Yaris' seem to me to be very high. It doesn't appear that the cars you have listed have a lot of options (like power windows / locks etc). They seem to be the lower end models.

daf62757

07-10-2012, 08:15 PM

I don't know about the US but I know that in Canada here a new 2012 Yaris is being advertised on Toyota's website as being $13,500.

The prices that you have listed for the used Yaris' seem to me to be very high. It doesn't appear that the cars you have listed have a lot of options (like power windows / locks etc). They seem to be the lower end models.

Since the Cash for Clunkers a few years ago, used car prices have been sky high. If you can afford a few thousand more, its smarter to buy the new car than a used. But you are right they are high.

edmscan

07-10-2012, 10:20 PM

Since the Cash for Clunkers a few years ago, used car prices have been sky high. If you can afford a few thousand more, its smarter to buy the new car than a used. But you are right they are high.

I bought my 2007 3 Dr RS LB for $4500 (yes I paid like I stole it). Somehow paying 12 grand for a 2007 model year that doesn't even have a lot of the goodies just seems to be high. Really you are buying a 5 year old car (even if it is a Toyota).

Personally if I was paying that much money ... I would seriously consider buying new, that way you are not buying someone else's problems.

However I am not familiar with prices in the US, so disregard if I am really thinking craziness.

Happy travels. :thumbup:

JML

07-11-2012, 12:14 AM

I didn't buy a Yaris today. I walked 5 miles to apply for a job and I got it. I just moved to NJ and my job fell through. I picked up this one, 11 an hour but it is fun and I get free waterpark tickets, free mountain biking (sick downhill trecks) and free snowboarding....perfect for working and going to college in the fall.

Yeah, the ones I listed are crank windows. It is such a tiny car that I don't mind. I can't find a damn thing cheaper than the ones I listed (unless a ton of miles).

07462 is my zip if anyone sees a kiler deal.

Steve L.

07-11-2012, 07:26 AM

I would get the blue one, as long as you get a descent warranty, if not I would choose the red one. They both look like there are in good shape. Test drive them both and then make your decision!!

goliath1812

07-11-2012, 09:47 AM

What do you consider a "ton" of miles? I wouldn't be too worried to buy one with up to 100,000... it is a Toyota after all... it's still just breaking in at that point :)

josh044

07-11-2012, 10:30 AM

I bought a 2007 base manual transmission with 42,000 miles a year ago for 9500 private party. I did have to drive a few hours to get to it. You might save some money if you wait for private party. I used one of those craigslist conglomerate sites that searches by mile radius.

JML

07-11-2012, 10:44 AM

I have been using autotrader and cars.com.
I didn't want one with a lot of miles because the warranty is usually not with them. The blue one has NO warranty, the Red one has a warranty through Sep 2015 and or 64,000 more miles.

goliath1812

07-11-2012, 11:12 AM

Usually with an extra warranty comes an extra premium, which if you're not at all mechanically inclined, is great. I think it's not worth it though, that's why I bought a Toyota in the first place, there are not many stories of Yaris breakdowns, aside from a few bad water pumps, I haven't really heard of anything going wrong. I just passed 105,000 miles, I replaced the water pump early (around 40,000) after a small leak and it's been fine since. I also had an oil leak from VVT solenoid fixed by mechanic for $70. I'm glad I never forked out extra for the warranty.

JML

07-11-2012, 02:05 PM

I found these too. The first one is a red 07 with 70K miles CERTIFIED. $9145 - pretty cheap
The second one is a blue 10 with only 8k miles. $11,900
Both are manual hatchbacks with electric windows. I really wouild like 2010 - it is in the Bronx an hour and a half away though.

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?zip=07461&endYear=2013&modelCode1=YARIS&makeCode2=HONDA&showcaseOwnerId=68645&startYear=1992&makeCode1=TOYOTA&firstRecord=226&searchRadius=50&maxPrice=12000&makeCode3=HYUND&listingId=324653714&Log=0

http://quotes.getinstaquote.net/?eb6b88b4306ddd6cc6248bacb5c96151

chocolab

07-11-2012, 04:17 PM

I don't think you could go wrong, really, if they check out mechanically. I test drove an 07 with 110k miles on it (I found that one of the two owners used to post on here, actually) and it was in amazingly great shape. I couldn't believe it how good it looked for how many miles it had. Even if the previous owners were really meticulous, the fact that the car could still look that good really speaks well for the Yaris.

Just to say that I wouldn't be afraid of higher miles... As long as you are compensated with a lower price, of course.

But that said, given what you wrote, I would get the one your gut tells you you want, which is the Bronx one. An hour and a half is nothing for a car you're going to drive for years.

Plus, I've been looking at similar cars, and IMO the 2010 is worth a lot more because it has the tach. (And the split seats.) Plus from what I've read here, it's easier to add cruise to the newer ones.

JML

07-12-2012, 11:48 AM

That blue 2010 is worth $12,700 to 14,500 according to kbb.com

It seems like a good deal, and it is a brand new car in all reality with 8,000 miles.

Thanks for the help guys. I have 3 cars to choose from.

2010 above, 2007 with 27,000 miles, 2011 with 7000 miles (if the price drops):w00t:

1.5

07-12-2012, 12:46 PM

tbh even though i don't like red cars I would pick that one up

brg88tx

07-12-2012, 01:50 PM

i would keep looking and buy from an individual on craiglist. you should be able to get one closer to $8k

suckerface

07-12-2012, 03:36 PM

FWIW, I've noticed aftermarket parts are easier to source for the models prior to 2010, though that's quickly changing. I think most users on here and MI have '06-'09 models.

david_827

07-12-2012, 03:43 PM

i'd grab a new one. a user just posted a link to a new 2012 for about $12k

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40539

1.5

07-12-2012, 05:24 PM

^ this I would get a new hatch as well. The fit and finish is greatly improved and its back to the driver aligned cluster and that new front looks so mean.

JML

07-12-2012, 10:17 PM

Holy cow! How is that even possible to sell a new car for that?

JML

07-12-2012, 10:22 PM

I am going to check out the one in the Bronx (never been to NYC before) on Saturday. $13,100 out the door, 8k miles.

I was looking at a new Hyundai Accent today, Hatch, 6 speed...16,100 out the door

JML

07-12-2012, 10:28 PM

It may be worth a 4 hour ride to Baltimore tomorrow. Wow. There are a couple at that price.

edmscan

07-13-2012, 12:05 AM

I would recommend that you stick to a new Yaris (or reasonably used Yaris) .. compared to the Accent. Anyone around here will tell you that a Yaris is a far better car .. :thumbup:

JML

07-13-2012, 12:27 AM

I am looking at train schedules to Baltimore right now! Ha ha.....

edmscan

07-13-2012, 12:39 AM

Yea .. the new Yaris in Baltimore would be a good buy. You can almost never go wrong with new.

One car dealership I went to in the past .. had me sold on the car and then sprung like a 9% annual interest rate on me. I did the quick math .. and told them forget it. These days anything over 3% I would say is too much. All I am saying is don't let the dealership blind side you when it comes to the money part. Just be prepared to walk away if you do not get the deal you want. :wink:

JML

07-13-2012, 02:25 AM

I am pre-approved through my credit union for $11,000 or more if I need it. I am a 760 so my rate is 2.99. Not bad.

I will probably play a bit with this car. Some TRD shocks/springs and a rear sway and some 15 in light weight wheels should do nicely.

JML

07-13-2012, 02:28 AM

http://www.russeltoyota.com/new/Toyota/2012-Toyota-Yaris-0e16f79c0a0d064901e85c45917a4123.htm

White or black, there are 2 manual trans 3 door L models for $12,600.

LIKES - ipod hook up, looks, price obviously, practical, looks pretty cool in white or black.

DISLIKES- no tachometer....wierd. I am sure there is a way to install one like the sport version.

edmscan

07-13-2012, 02:33 AM

JML

07-13-2012, 11:46 AM

A BIT more than I was thinking....

Price breakdown on that 2012 Yaris L 3 Door in the link.

$12,600
+ 760 freight
+ 200 Maryland Fee
+ 218 Dealer Fee
---------------------
13,779 + NJ Tax

14,743 + NJ Tags...... I don't know, about $15,000 out the door now.

$16,100 OTD for a new Accent Hatch manual GS
$13,100 OTD for a 2010 Yaris Hatch manual 8k miles
$11,100 OTD for a 2007 Yaris Hatch manual 27K miles

It keeps going up and up, ha ha.

suckerface

07-13-2012, 12:36 PM

FWIW, I bought my '08 hatch in '10 with 40k miles on it, and paid just shy of $10k out the door (though it was cash, no financing for me). If you can get those prices to include T,T & L, that's not a horrible price.

Also, as far as the TRD parts go, 99.9% of the time they're re-branded parts from other companies. Do some searching (specifically on http://shop.microimageonline.com ) and you'll find parts as good, or better, than TRD for comparable cost, or even cheaper.

suckerface

07-13-2012, 01:02 PM

JML

07-13-2012, 09:29 PM

I am probably getting that blue 2010 hatchback tomorrow. I can't find a good link to see if Toyota's warranty transfers over to me or not.

I hope I like it. :thumbup:

WeeYari

07-13-2012, 10:09 PM

It keeps going up and up, ha ha.

That's because you came here asking for advice. :wink:

JML

07-13-2012, 10:34 PM

That's because you came here asking for advice. :wink:

I know.

I am putting this on hold and just going with the 2010 tomorrow unless I find something ridicuously awesome. I can't go shopping like normal, I have to do it on the internet. N. New Jersey is rural. The closest dealer is a Ford dealer in Warwick NY and they want too much for their Fiestas and Focus.

tooter

07-13-2012, 11:25 PM

I am going to check out the one in the Bronx (never been to NYC before) on Saturday. $13,100 out the door, 8k miles.

I was looking at a new Hyundai Accent today, Hatch, 6 speed...16,100 out the door

Hyundais are good little cars. :smile:
The one our new Yaris replaced was a 19 year old Excel that still ran perfectly when we sold it.

A 2012 Hyundai 6 speed was our first choice... but they don't make a simple 2 door base hatchback without all the electrical crap.

We're totally pleased with the Yaris. :thumbsup:

JML

07-14-2012, 01:07 PM

These are the best deals I can find. Which one is a better deal?

2008 Honda Fit Sport 60K miles $9,600 - not certified

http://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action?entit ySelectingHelper.selectedEntity=d744&radius=75&zip=07461&sourceContext=RecentSearches_false_0#listing=38698 662

2010 YARIS HATCH manual 8,000 miles $11,966 - remainder of Toyota Warranty
http://www.autotrader.com/dealers/dda/detail.jsp?ct=u&car_id=324953106&dealer_id=95742&car_year=2010&doors=&model=YARIS&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&keywordsrep=&search_type=both&min_price=&dealership_view_name=lasorsa&drive=&advanced=&fuel=&keywords_display=&end_year=2013&make2=&engine=&transmission=&default_sort=&max_mileage=&color=&sort_type=priceDESC&suppressStyle=null&resultCar=324953106&max_price=&make=TOYOTA&cardist=5433

Profotoiam

07-14-2012, 03:01 PM

yaris dont break in till like 60k bro other than battery issues my 07 2 crashes later front end still runs like a racehorse just keep up the maintence youll be fine.

why?

07-15-2012, 09:33 PM

For that type of money I would also check out buying one brand new as well first. $10k is most of the car, and some dealers are throwing in 2 years of all maintenance and other crazy perks.

The Toyota certification is not really needed, some dealerships will drop it and the extra money it costs them as well. But def go with the one with the lower mileage.

yarisgal

07-18-2012, 01:39 PM

I just got a 2008 Yaris lift (3 Door) atuo (I do not know how to drive stick), Silver, with 33200 miles on it from the Certified preown Toyota dealer for $8000 (with certification, high NYC, NYS, Fed tax, rip off NYS registration, emission test to be $9350)

I think that is a good price (I cannot add the tax and registration as the cost of the car since that is not part of the car)... what do you guys think?

yarisgal

07-18-2012, 01:41 PM

Hyundais are good little cars. :smile:
The one our new Yaris replaced was a 19 year old Excel that still ran perfectly when we sold it.

A 2012 Hyundai 6 speed was our first choice... but they don't make a simple 2 door base hatchback without all the electrical crap.

We're totally pleased with the Yaris. :thumbsup:

For some reasons, I just do not trust the Hyundai... I do not know why but there are just too many people with too many problems with that brand. It is good that your Hyundai lasted so many years, make it worthy!

bronsin

07-18-2012, 02:00 PM

My neighbors 1993 Hyundai must be 19 years old by now. I remember going to the junkyard to get parts for it when it was three years old. There must have been a dozen other 93s there to pick parts from!

I bet hisin is still in there with themses.

otterhere

07-18-2012, 05:27 PM

I'm not much for red cars, but the Yaris in red looks really cute on the road (quite a few Toyotas around these parts). I got mine in Meteorite Metallic because my Suzuki Swift looked so awesome in silver, but the Yaris -- not so much! It really depends on the car's configuration/shape itself, I've decided. Some "wear" certain colors better than others.

BTW, when I was tempted to buy that grasshopper green 2012 Mazda2 Sport for $15,000 (I think I'm over that now), I told friends I'd expect to get $12k for my 2008 Yaris; they thought I was crazy, but that's what they go for -- apparently!

nookandcrannycar

07-20-2012, 01:27 AM

I have a black Yaris ... and I would totally recommend that you DO NOT get a black one. They are almost impossible to keep clean. You can take it to the car wash .. and it looks like crap the next day. Just my 2 cents.

I think that white would be a good choice as I haven't seen people here complaining about their white cars. :w00t:

I agree re black. It also absorbs heat, which can be an issue in some geographical areas but not in others. I had a black Dodge Colt (same as a Mitsubishi Mirage). Re white cars, white can be a good choice. I had a white GTI and it was fairly easy to keep looking clean. I have found silver is the easiest to keep looking clean.

Idahotom

07-22-2012, 03:13 PM

My '08 HB is white, with dark tint, as dark as legal, windows. My first white car and I am loving it. Very noticable on a mid 90's sunny day when you get back in. Something about a small white car with dark windows just looks cool to me, pun intended. I like it so much that when I sell my '89 AllTrac, my winter ride, I have been looking real hard at a white 2002 Rav4 4x4. I want a pair of white Toyotas, kind of a corporate fleet look!

BTW I've done the math and it makes sense for me to drive the Yaris as much as possible, and then when winter really hits (major mountain dirt roads, unplowed, 4x4 isn't a option, you HAVE to have it), thanks to my cheap insurance and cheap state registration, less then $200.00 annual total here in Idaho.

nookandcrannycar

07-22-2012, 03:37 PM

Yury

07-23-2012, 07:50 PM

As an owner of several black cars in Toronto area, I say don't. They get ridiculously hot while parked and you need to blast ac for good 10 minutes to start feeling any relief. And they get dirty quickly.
With white I find that any paint mismatches tend to stand out more. Grey works well for me. Silver would be nice too.