SRT-4

[elsteverino889]

Man after this weekends events..I think I want a SRT-4. I can trade in my Yaris but 2-3 G's down and have a pratically new SRT-4 maybe already with some mods and low milleage maybe as much as my car has. Ive shared my views already on the low productivity of aftermarket companies and their interests on the Yaris. SRT is a sweet as car with a TURBO stock and ready to mod.

[jdubau55]

The big 3 in the US are going to shit. Good luck getting 150K miles out of an SRT4

[elsteverino889]

The big 3 in the US are going to shit. Good luck getting 150K miles out of an SRT4


these days no one keeps a car for 150k

[static808]

these days no one keeps a car for 150k

hey!! the wifey and i kept our cars for almost a decade!! my '97 civic had 130K miles, and her '97 avalon had 110K miles. the miles were pretty low since we spent 4.5 years in college, with practically zero commute (dorms and campus apartments). we intend to spend another decade in our sienna and yaris, and thats the reason why we narrowed our choices to either toyota or honda. those brands have been good to our families, and definitely last a while. if you do get a srt-4, we wish you well as you zoom by us on the streets and highways!! from personal experience, domestics have disappointed us. but some research has shown that domestic cars' bad reliability is only a perception. some numbers actually show that domestics beat german cars in terms of reliability and number of unplanned trips to the dealerships. of course, japanese cars were the most reliable, but not by very much. i forget exactly where on msn.com i read this. and many others have had great experiences with domestics. good luck with whichever car you choose to stick with! treat her well, and im sure she'll do the same...

--B

[PSU Yaris]

yo if u want a srt-4, you might wanna wait for the new dodge caliber srt-4. it's got 300 hp and 260 lb-ft of torque. also the new dodge avenger (looks like a smaller version of the charger) is supposed to get an srt model if u like that style better. theres also a chance that the avenger srt would be awd versus the caliber srt-4's fwd.

[Snake]

I own both vehicles, if you want to know something about either let me know, be glad to help
you can pick up a used srt-4 for about 10-12k around here so its not that bad
but you maintenance on that car is going to be a lot more than a toyota
if your looking for reliability keep the yaris

[Snake]

do not wait for the caliber, or the avenger, save your money and get a used one

[elsteverino889]

yo if u want a srt-4, you might wanna wait for the new dodge caliber srt-4. it's got 300 hp and 260 lb-ft of torque. also the new dodge avenger (looks like a smaller version of the charger) is supposed to get an srt model if u like that style better. theres also a chance that the avenger srt would be awd versus the caliber srt-4's fwd.

Na the caliber is ugly and expensive, and the avenger is a diff story bro

[acrbill]

The big 3 in the US are going to shit. Good luck getting 150K miles out of an SRT4

Your a fucking moron.

[Black Yaris]

The big 3 in the US are going to shit. Good luck getting 150K miles out of an SRT4

The old big 3 or the current big 3?
Old=GM, Chrysler and Ford
New=GM, Chrysler and Toyota
Ford was bumped to 4th a while back

[Moose]

Your a fucking moron.

Actually, it's, "you're a fucking moron."

Now, debunk jdubau55's theory without making yourself look any worse. :wink:

[acrbill]

The old big 3 or the current big 3?
Old=GM, Chrysler and Ford
New=GM, Chrysler and Toyota
Ford was bumped to 4th a while back

Actually Chrysler is #4 and Ford is #2

[acrbill]

Actually, it's, "you're a fucking moron."

Now, debunk jdubau55's theory without making yourself look any worse. :wink:

LOFL!!!!

Well played friend!

[static808]

Actually Chrysler is #4 and Ford is #2

wait a minute...TOYOTA is 2!! and soon-to-be NUMBER ONE. YAY!! the odd thing is, where the hell is honda?? with soo many civics and accords on the road, you'd think they'd be mentioned in that discussion...

--B

[PSU Yaris]

wait a minute...TOYOTA is 2!! and soon-to-be NUMBER ONE. YAY!! the odd thing is, where the hell is honda?? with soo many civics and accords on the road, you'd think they'd be mentioned in that discussion...

--B


true! where the hell is honda in all of this?? #5?

[TrancosRt]

From what I recall Globally Honda is not a big player. It is mainly big in Japan and the Us, with a "small" market share throughout the rest of the world. I might be tripping though...

[ChinoCharles]

From what I recall Globally Honda is not a big player. It is mainly big in Japan and the Us, with a "small" market share throughout the rest of the world. I might be tripping though...

Wrong. The Civic has the highest overall production numbers of any car in the history of motoring. That's a fact.

[TrancosRt]

Wrong. The Civic has the highest overall production numbers of any car in the history of motoring. That's a fact.

I am wrong then, No prob saying that :P. (maybe it is my wish. I just don't like Hondas...)

[acrbill]

wait a minute...TOYOTA is 2!! and soon-to-be NUMBER ONE. YAY!! the odd thing is, where the hell is honda?? with soo many civics and accords on the road, you'd think they'd be mentioned in that discussion...

--B

I was referring to U.S. Auto sales. In that respect Toyota has a lot of ground to cover to catch GM.

General Motors 4,028,992
Ford Motor 2,716,383
Chrysler Group 2,142,505

Toyota/Lexus/Scion 2,542,525
Honda/Acura 1,509,358




source: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/morgan--company-inc-reports/story.aspx?guid=%7BA4988852-07D7-4944-A3E5-3F8B154A2DB9%7D

[static808]

I was referring to U.S. Auto sales. In that respect Toyota has a lot of ground to cover to catch GM.

General Motors 4,028,992
Ford Motor 2,716,383
Chrysler Group 2,142,505

Toyota/Lexus/Scion 2,542,525
Honda/Acura 1,509,358




source: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/morgan--company-inc-reports/story.aspx?guid=%7BA4988852-07D7-4944-A3E5-3F8B154A2DB9%7D

wow, that is very informative, thanks!! its easy to believe that GM sells that many cars since the GM line encompasses what, a million different brands?? its crazy to think that ford is up there, but then i remember reading somewhere that ford sells at least 900,000 pickups a year. and for honda to be that low is amazing to me since in california, every teenager drives a honda. shoot, i did!

--B

[Kaotic Lazagna]

Wrong. The Civic has the highest overall production numbers of any car in the history of motoring. That's a fact.

i thought that i read from a newspaper a few months back that Corolla outsells the Civic by a large margin.

[punch]

Wrong. The Civic has the highest overall production numbers of any car in the history of motoring. That's a fact.

I thought the VW bug was the highest production car...

[sqcomp]

Srt-4...

Well, I just traded mine in for the Yaris. The car's reliability is shaky. It depends on what you do to it. I suppose this would be the same for any car you buy. The SRT is a lot of fun. It is arguably the king of the FWD class. It is definately the cheapest.

Thankfully I have a good close friend that has the same SRT that I had right down to the color. I gave him all my aftermarket parts and he's taking it a bit farther. He just landed a stage 2 and is going to rock out with that for a while and then buy a new stage 3.

The BAD thing about the SRT is the dealerships and the service departments. My recomendation to you would be, if you're using the SRT as a daily driver AND are going to mess with it...DON'T! At least if you want to have factory support.

I sound like I never got any support from the dealerships. This is untrue. I had several major issues with mine, all were covered under warranty. It was the way I was treated that was my issue. At 3000 miles they replaced the turbo and manifold (it was stock). Looking back, it was only a stock wastegate actuator that needed to be replaced. Still, you think the "experts" would know that. They don't. If it doesn't say it in the service manual, it doesn't exist to them. The intuition of a one-celled organism is greater than the "service techs" at dodge.

I had various hose "pops", each time costing me $60 since I didn't have a lift and they weren't covered under warranty.

I had a faulty TPS sensor that on several occasions nearly caused accidents. It took me 3 MONTHS to convince the morons that something was wrong. It took me to drag the service manager out in the car and trying to put it into boost with stuttering, and almost stalling in traffic to convince the rubes to replace the TPS.

The stock plug wires had melted on me three times. They just kept replacing them with stock ones. I eventually had to replace them with Magnecor 8.5mm wires and an aluminum heat shield under the coil to stop the problem.

...Then there was the tranny. No one will believe me, exept those who drive with me, but I wasn't hard on the tranny. The dealership tried to weasel out of the replacement because I had no back seat and upholstry. It was obvious that I was installing a sound system. Dynamat extreme all over and wires layed out...The service writer even had the BALLS to tell me one of his "techs" had seen me drag racing at the local drag strip. I called him to task on that accusation. He backed down...and THEN he tried charging me for services that didn't need to be done with the clutch on the car. He overcharged me for labor on the clutch (since the tranny was already dropped under the warranty service replacement, there is no reason to charge 3 hours of labor for a MODULAR CLUTCH!). Apparently they just wanted to make some money back from me. The bastard actually tried to charge me to "resurface the flywheel". Okay...look. Normally that is cool. But go back and read..."MODULAR CLUTCH"!!!! It's a factory packed clutch/flywheel assembly! There is NO resurfacing needed. It attaches with 4 bolts! I know this because we did my friend's tranny with an aftermarket one from Performance Autowerks stage 2 tranny Clutchmasters clutch and Fidanza fly...AND I had the service manual. I actually had to bring it in and show him that there was no resurfacing needed!

*sigh*

honestly, I can tell you more, but the anxiety would kill me. The car itself was a dream. The crappy servcice was hell. I will probably end up buying another SRT as a track car in about 4 years. I LOVE the car. Don't get me wrong. There is a TT kit from Darrell Cox Racing calling my name...I just can't justify the anxiety and angst when I'm helping my wife through dental school.

I'm done.

[Snake]

wow thats a lot of info lol

my srt is in darrells shop at the moment, thats funny that he mentioned it

but the srt, youll like it

problems or not, the rush from the boost spoolin will make up for it