View Full Version : Need help with sub/amp setup
Qmobile
09-19-2012, 01:25 AM
I gotta 12 inch sub that has:
200 watt RMS
400 watt peak
Single 4 ohm Voice coil
It's gonna be in a sealed box also. My issue is how big of a amp will I need? Lookin for something that'll work w/o blow up lol
Alien Mantis
09-19-2012, 05:48 AM
You could tell us what brand/model it is. That would be helpful.
What size sealed box you going with?
Qmobile
09-19-2012, 08:31 PM
Directed is the brand my sub is from it's eXtreme line model number 124SX. the box i'm not sure of the size but it's just a generic Scosche 12" box
Alien Mantis
09-19-2012, 10:15 PM
You need something like this:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22381_Pioneer-GM-D7500M.html
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 12:09 AM
ok any other options?
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 01:46 AM
what's like the least amount of watt I'd need? I can get a 200 watt for cheap is why I'm askin
_S7V7N_
09-20-2012, 03:29 AM
Price range ?
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 03:37 AM
nothing too expensive >$100
Alien Mantis
09-20-2012, 04:01 AM
ok any other options?
You could go with this one, but you can't crank the gain.
It makes a little more power.
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_22732_Kenwood-KAC-8105D.html
Alien Mantis
09-20-2012, 04:05 AM
nothing too expensive >$100
I don't recommend BOSS, SSL, JENSEN, HiTron, Power Acoustik, etc.
Cheap amps tend to run hot and they don't last. They also produce dirty power.
Class D is nice for subs, and those amps are all a little over $100.
Buy a Boss or SSL for $70. Nothing stopping you. It should technically "work".
But most people on here won't recommend it.
So here ya go, if this is what you want:
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_11591_Boss-CX1100M.html
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 04:14 AM
well there is some wiggle room 2 I like that kenwood. But back to my what's the least amount I'd need to push the sub?
willygoodness
09-20-2012, 11:31 AM
any brand that says output of 200rms @4ohms and you'll be fine and i'd say happy with.
if u don't want to put the volume button up to full on the amp. get a 300wrms @4ohm amp.
if u get a 2ohm or a 1ohm @200rms amp, it won't sound as clear. as the sub is for 4ohm.
i've got 2x 4ohm subs. but if i run both off the same amp at 2ohm it gets louder. but not as clear... if that helps u
just don't turn up the subsonic bass knob, that's IMO the thing that blows subs
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-VSA-Class-D-Monoblock-1500W-Mosfet-Power-Car-Amplifier-/130633064666?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e6a5660da
had one for over a yr and still works with rough install
_S7V7N_
09-20-2012, 11:53 AM
Don't ever use the Gain/Level knob on an amp as a Volume. When i get to a computer later on i'll post some info Qmobile. Alot of the feedback you have received is False.
Here's an ok amp with room to grow. Would i buy it. No because i can get about Tripple the Power for that price. I wouldn't recommend the amp i use because it isn't efficient for a newbie (no offense). The amp kit you'll need will cost about 60 bucks. Upgrade your battery. Big 3. So you're looking at about an additional 200 bucks.
So to be efficient on your battery i'd stick with the Best Buy brands. Which is "okay". Kenwood , Fosgate , Alpine, Pioneer.
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=300743156694&index=21&nav=SEARCH&nid=32887707894
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 02:54 PM
ok thanks! I'm lookin to get a MEI DA8275 300 watt amp 2 channel 4 ohm amp. Know anything bout that one?
_S7V7N_
09-20-2012, 05:27 PM
Amp is Probably about 15 years old ? MEI hasn't been around for a while.
Amp probably does 75 watts RMS
15 bucks at the most for that amp. Same category as Jensen or Boss.
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 06:17 PM
ok I thought it was 2 good 2 be true. The guy is askin $35 for a amp from '95 seemed a bit extreme 2 me
Alien Mantis
09-20-2012, 07:07 PM
Hey Seven,
He doesn't have to do the big3 upgrade. He's runnning a low power system.
He asked what is the minimum power he needs for that sub he has.
I would say 150watts RMS at 4ohms.
An 8ga amp wire kit will work fine for that.
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 07:28 PM
So Alien Mantis,
the MEI amp what's your view on it?
_S7V7N_
09-20-2012, 07:37 PM
I was stating why i recommended the amp but wouldn't purchase it. At this time it's more cost efficient to go with an entry level amp that is a bit more efficient on the electrical system as well.
The amp i had (sold it ) did 1500 watts rms @ 1ohm. It goes for 120 bucks. You need good electrical cause it has the potential to draw about 100 amps of current.
@Alien Mantis. Define "Dirty Power "
That amp will do 1400 clean 1500 and then some Dirty. Which is fine for burps.
Alien Mantis
09-20-2012, 10:14 PM
So Alien Mantis,
the MEI amp what's your view on it?
I'm sorry, I have no experience with that brand.
:iono:
Alien Mantis
09-20-2012, 10:18 PM
I was stating why i recommended the amp but wouldn't purchase it. At this time it's more cost efficient to go with an entry level amp that is a bit more efficient on the electrical system as well.
Oh, I totally agree.
@Alien Mantis. Define "Dirty Power "
The cheaper amps seem to run hotter and they have a poor signal-to-noise ratio. Not all, but some do. Can't trust the specs on the box either, the manufacturer can fudge the numbers.
Like with subs. Cheap subs that have weak motors will be rated at 1,500w max power. That is maybe for like a split second at a specific freq range!
All kinds of marketing tricks. You know this game, you get what you PAY for.
The "good" stuff will cost you.
Qmobile
09-20-2012, 10:40 PM
well considering this is a cheap sub.... I don't really need a fancy ex$pensive amp. I seen one today in town for 55 i forget the brand but it mite work
_S7V7N_
09-20-2012, 11:22 PM
Alien i wont go any further off topic but you'd be suprised how many of them cookie cutter name brand "good " subs and amps are built by the same build houses over in Korea,Japan,or China. Some get a Soundstream logo others get a Power Acoustic Logo. Hell do enough research and some may get an Alpine logo !!! If you opened up 10 diff Manufacturers amps, you'd be suprised what you'd find inside and who shares the same boards.
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