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47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 11:48 AM
So this is the manual that came with my gauges.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3813452/Blitz%20Uras%20gauge%20manual.pdf

I don't even understand. Getting power to the gauges and whatnot is easy enough, but What it's saying to connect the sensors to I just don't understand.
THe thing that it labels as "Oil" that has the 3 wires (the bigger plug, 2nd from the top on the diagram on page 2) I have connected to my manifold here:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3Yym8l90rVk/UHwiCshpQdI/AAAAAAAAF5c/y8OjodTQi0A/s1024/2012-10-14%252018.29.14.jpg

Am I doing it right? I don't even.

CTScott
10-15-2012, 12:41 PM
Is that plug in your picture the sensor's plug or one of the plugs off the "live unit"?

47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 12:46 PM
That's one of the sensors that came in the kit. The other one is a temperature sensor, so I thought that would be the one that goes in the manifold. I don't really know though. This installation manual seems like it was written for someone that already knows how to do all this jazz.

cali yaris
10-15-2012, 02:44 PM
water temp? oil pressure? or temp? What are the gauges for?

47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 03:23 PM
Temperature, pressure, and boost is what they are labeled.

CTScott
10-15-2012, 03:26 PM
If you read the manual, temp can be used for oil or water. Is there a connector on the "live unit" that that temp sensor connector can plug into, or is it just a pig tail, where you will need to snip the sensor's connector and splice the wires?

47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 03:29 PM
There's a long wire that goes between the sensors and that "live unit" box.

Where are you supposed to connect the sensors? I don't know of any extra holes in the oil pan or something haha.

So what is that thing I have plugged into my manifold? My buddy that is familiar with boost said that's normally where you'd read the boost pressure from.

CTScott
10-15-2012, 03:38 PM
There's a long wire that goes between the sensors and that "live unit" box.

Where are you supposed to connect the sensors? I don't know of any extra holes in the oil pan or something haha.

So what is that thing I have plugged into my manifold? My buddy that is familiar with boost said that's normally where you'd read the boost pressure from.

OK - So it's a splice job then. That is the correct place on the Blitz manifold for the boost gauge.

As for temp and pressure, you could theoretically add a T on the back of the block where the oil pressure switch is currently located.

47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 03:48 PM
If I'm reading the manual right, it says that the little black hose thing is what's supposed to read the boost pressure? I don't even understand though. The "live unit" has 3 plugs and one hose thing, but on the other side it only has 3 plugs for the gauges. I don't understand what that hose thing is for if there isn't a gauge for it.

cali yaris
10-15-2012, 04:16 PM
I think the oil sender is on the side? I'll check my car. But yes to CTScott's suggestion to T off of that.

There is an "extra" water temp sensor spot on the front of the block -- I believe it's used for the xA/xB. If someone can confirm, it's great for a gauge, and I believe I'm using that on my car.

yarisugi
10-15-2012, 04:20 PM
Temperature, pressure, and boost is what they are labeled.
Still not sure what you're going to use the gauges for... water temp? oil temp? I assume the second is oil pressure and last is boost gauge.
Another question is the plug in your picture that you mentioned is a sensor that has a long wire. What is on the other end of that plug? I included a picture from the internet with yellow arrows and question mark. Is it connected to that?
Looks like CTScott may have already answered your questions.

47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 04:24 PM
That one is slightly different than what I have, but pretty close. I have one of those sensor things that the lower arrow is pointing to. Mine have a short wire instead of the long wire, then there's a long wire that plugs into the "live unit" and the short wire coming off the sensor. The thing I screwed into my manifold looks different than that one.

I figured oil pressure and oil temperature, but I dunno if those are the things I should monitor the most or not.

yarisugi
10-15-2012, 05:15 PM
This is what I see so far... can CTScott possible confirm this?

TEMP 1 SENSOR - You probably can use an oil drain adapter plug so that you can install the oil temp. sensor where the stock oil drain would go (no drilling) or, like CTScott said, use a "T" fitting to your oil line.

TEMP 2 SENSOR - seems to be an optional item? Since you only have 3 gauges. If you wanted this to work you'd need the additional part as stated in the pdf.

VACUUM PRESSURE – You could use a "T" adapter and tap into a vacuum line on the manifold. This is how your boost gauge will detect the amount of boost via the Live Unit.

CTScott
10-15-2012, 05:16 PM
That one is slightly different than what I have, but pretty close. I have one of those sensor things that the lower arrow is pointing to. Mine have a short wire instead of the long wire, then there's a long wire that plugs into the "live unit" and the short wire coming off the sensor. The thing I screwed into my manifold looks different than that one.

I figured oil pressure and oil temperature, but I dunno if those are the things I should monitor the most or not.

With the S/C, the most important thing is actually A/FR. Boost is nice, but it is so predictable with the Blitz, that it really isn't even necessary.

Looking at the manual again, the little hose is for vacuum/boost. You just screw a 1/4" FPT to 1/8" nipple into the hole in the manifold to connect it to. That sensor that you installed there is probably your pressure sensor (to be used for oil pressure).

47_MasoN_47
10-15-2012, 05:31 PM
So I need to install this thing on the manifold

http://www.amazon.com/Parker-2-4-B2HF-B-Barbed-Connector/dp/B000FMYBL2/ref=pd_sbs_indust_3

and move that oil pressure thing I have on there now to another thing?

yarisugi
10-15-2012, 05:40 PM
EDIT: DISREGARD THIS POST.

No, I don't think CTScott is telling you to switch those two.
I think your oil pressure thing that you have in there is fine where it is.
As for the skinny hose that's coming out of your live unit, that has to tap into your intake manifold. This way your live unit will detect how much boost you're getting and inform you when you look at your boost gauge.

CTScott
10-15-2012, 09:34 PM
So I need to install this thing on the manifold

http://www.amazon.com/Parker-2-4-B2HF-B-Barbed-Connector/dp/B000FMYBL2/ref=pd_sbs_indust_3

and move that oil pressure thing I have on there now to another thing?

Correct.

CTScott
10-15-2012, 09:37 PM
No, I don't think CTScott is telling you to switch those two.
I think your oil pressure thing that you have in there is fine where it is.
As for the skinny hose that's coming out of your live unit, that has to tap into your intake manifold. This way your live unit will detect how much boost you're getting and inform you when you look at your boost gauge.

With the Blitz that hole in the manifold is specifically intended for connection of a boost gauge. I initially missed the fact that the boost gauge for the kit has a hose, rather than electronic sender. If you used the pressure gauge sensor there, you would not see the negative pressure of the vacuum and would barely move the gauge for the six pounds of boost generated by the S/C.

yarisugi
10-15-2012, 11:33 PM
OK my bad! Sorry Mason.
So you're saying to remove the pressure sensor and replace it with the 1/4-1/8" fitting for the vacuum line from the live unit.
Where does the sensor go to? Are there other orifices?

CTScott
10-15-2012, 11:36 PM
OK my bad! Sorry Mason.
So you're saying to remove the pressure sensor and replace it with the 1/4-1/8" fitting for the vacuum line from the live unit.
Where does the sensor go to? Are there other orifices?

The pressure sensor is for oil pressure. You would mount that somewhere where you can see the oil pressure, like at the filter sandwich adapter that they mention in the instructions.

yarisugi
10-15-2012, 11:42 PM
Ahh. I see, so he would need that (optional) adapter for the oil pressure sensor.
Sorry, I thought that picture was of the block that the pressure sensor was in.
Here is LtNoogies thread (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15233) which might help?

47_MasoN_47
10-16-2012, 12:12 AM
Thanks for the link/info!

47_MasoN_47
10-16-2012, 12:57 PM
I looked through that thread but didn't notice it, does anyone know what the thread pitch of the Yaris oil filter is so I get the right sandwich adapter?

47_MasoN_47
10-16-2012, 02:13 PM
From looking around it looks like 3/4 unf-16?

cali yaris
10-16-2012, 02:27 PM
^ I have them in stock

I am not using one though, so I know it's not required to install an oil pressure gauge.

CTScott
10-16-2012, 02:54 PM
^ I have them in stock

I am not using one though, so I know it's not required to install an oil pressure gauge.

Since you are running a standalone, are you running an oil pressure sensor in place of the stock oil pressure switch?

47_MasoN_47
10-21-2012, 01:09 PM
Ok so I got a sandwich adapter for the oil filter, moved all the sensors to the right places, etc. I have the "live unit" tied up by the ECU. What would be the best place to tap into for power for it? The guy in the other thread powered his gauges from inside the car, but I'd rather just power it from the engine bay fuse box if I can.

CTScott
10-21-2012, 09:16 PM
Ok so I got a sandwich adapter for the oil filter, moved all the sensors to the right places, etc. I have the "live unit" tied up by the ECU. What would be the best place to tap into for power for it? The guy in the other thread powered his gauges from inside the car, but I'd rather just power it from the engine bay fuse box if I can.


you can grab constant power from the under-hood fuse box, but not ignition switched power.

47_MasoN_47
10-21-2012, 09:25 PM
Shaft. So to get ignition switched I'll just have to plug into that panel under the dash and route it back through the firewall? Will it be OK to ground it to the frame or do I need to run the ground back through to there also?

CTScott
10-21-2012, 09:30 PM
Shaft. So to get ignition switched I'll just have to plug into that panel under the dash and route it back through the firewall? Will it be OK to ground it to the frame or do I need to run the ground back through to there also?

Chassis grounding is fine. You can go through the little grommet that is right above the ECM for making your way into the cabin.

47_MasoN_47
10-22-2012, 03:27 PM
I've been using the one that the AC pipes go through over on the driver's side, mostly just because that's the only one I could see haha. I have the first gauge in and connected. All that's left is power, I have the wires in place for that but left my sockets at home so I couldn't get the ground connected during my lunch break.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u0d1O4xV9fQ/UIWQXu-jR8I/AAAAAAAAF6Y/9dfzaUL-Jbg/s912/2012-10-21%252011.40.43.jpg