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Bretsuaz
03-07-2007, 10:49 PM
Just received the annual auto issue yesterday. The Yaris is on the Most Disappointing list, along with the Caliber/Compass, Nitro and the Sebring.

"The Yaris offers excellent fuel economy and reliability. But the good news ends there. Emergency handling is sloppy, there's alot of noise, the driving position is uncomfortable, and stops are very long without the optional (but hard to find) antilock brakes."

I am very pleased with my car, and think I made a great choice. This vehicle meets all my needs in a car. It is environmentally friendly, economical, safe, and fun to drive. Not to mention, backed by Toyota reliability. Sure, there are a couple of small things I would like to see change. But overall, I love this car. If something were to happen to this car, I would be back at the Toyota dealership buying another one.

I do like Consumer reports, but have always felt that reviews of cars would be better left to someone else (besides CNet, they're even worse). The only part of their reviews that seems to be accurate is reliability. The rest of their reviews should be read for entertainment value only.

Anyone else read this issue yet? What did you think?

fazali
03-07-2007, 11:05 PM
They are right on all counts. But thats it. Dollar for dollar and style equals a good deal. No regrets here.

There you have it!

PetersRedYaris
03-07-2007, 11:15 PM
Thats OK, I saw a issue of Consumer reports top used cars not to buy. Not one single Toyota on the list. Honda only had one. Nissan had several. Almost every Volkwagon model made was on it. I'll stick with my Toyota.

RogueYaris
03-07-2007, 11:28 PM
I'm happy with mine. I don't need a report to validate my purchase or my feelings of goodness for buying my Yaris. They can shove their reports up their righteous asses.

eTiMaGo
03-07-2007, 11:41 PM
I'm happy with mine. I don't need a report to validate my purchase or my feelings of goodness for buying my Yaris. They can shove their reports up their righteous asses.

amen!

St_G
03-08-2007, 12:09 AM
+1. I don't disagree with anything they said, really. But I still know that for me, on the day I was buying and with the budget I had, I made the right call.

They are right on all counts. But thats it. Dollar for dollar and style equals a good deal. No regrets here.

There you have it!

Thirty-Nine
03-08-2007, 12:24 AM
+1. I don't disagree with anything they said, really. But I still know that for me, on the day I was buying and with the budget I had, I made the right call.

Sorry; I think CR is full of it. I remember when I realized it: when they were complaining that the ride of the Corvette was "too stiff." Total lack of credibility, IMHO.

I remember one issue they were rating which beers were the best. C'mon -- it's totally personal preference!

I do not listen to CR.

St_G
03-08-2007, 01:07 AM
Fair enough, but there's not a lot of subjectivity in the list of Yaris complaints. Driving position isn't really uncomfortable to me, I suppose, but it's a little awkward and certainly took some getting use to. I continue to search for the right seat position/steering wheel height that leaves me enough leg room without requiring me to drive with my arms straight out.



Sorry; I think CR is full of it. I remember when I realized it: when they were complaining that the ride of the Corvette was "too stiff." Total lack of credibility, IMHO.

I remember one issue they were rating which beers were the best. C'mon -- it's totally personal preference!

I do not listen to CR.

foober
03-08-2007, 01:27 AM
The idiot media consumer people haven't a clue what a good car is. All they can think of is bells and whistles not practicality and usefulness.

static808
03-08-2007, 01:38 AM
*in a sarcastic tone* i for one am happy about the "bad news." hopefully there'll be less yarii around here. everywhere i turn, there goes another one...

--B

Nutzoids
03-08-2007, 01:43 AM
I love my car more then any other car I have ever owned!

And I don't NEED all that fancy shit... I LOVE A SIMPLE CAR!

I want to work on my car, I want to feel the road, It is one of the ONLY cars in America that lets you do that...

... But it could use a Tachometer!

:evil:

gonzo452001
03-08-2007, 06:50 AM
I got a vcr one time that comsumer reports said had a real good picture for vhs anyway .It was awful i took it back and got a different one.I am very happy with my yaris handling is a lot better than my tacoma.

fearturtle44
03-08-2007, 08:40 AM
I think it is very difficult to rate things like cars. You can't drive a car a couple of hours and make a valid opinion. A car has to be driven for weeks/months in order for the driver to get a feel for the like/dislike. Still lovin' on my Yaris S. Even the radio/sound is better than I thought it would be for a "cheap" car.

With car prices climbing, I will take my 40mpg over a CR highly rated SUV any day.

Kevin

static808
03-08-2007, 11:56 AM
I think it is very difficult to rate things like cars. You can't drive a car a couple of hours and make a valid opinion. A car has to be driven for weeks/months in order for the driver to get a feel for the like/dislike. Kevin

this is very true. also needed to be taken into consideration is how much weight is being placed on things such as performance, luxury, safety, etc. reviews from mags like Car & Driver and Road & Track can be misleading since theire reviews are very heavily performance based. because of this, hondas will always typically do better than toyotas in those comparisons. we need to place more emphasis on their long term reviews, which shows the true liveability of vehicles. with that said, we ARE all human so we cant help but classify, quantify and compare different things. thats in our inherent nature. but one thing that magazines and reports will never be able to quantify is the level of satisfaction that us yarii owners genuinely have.

--B

jamal1984
03-08-2007, 12:03 PM
Probably Honda Fit Paid them more than Toyota Yaris

Quatro
03-08-2007, 03:30 PM
Just received the annual auto issue yesterday. The

"The Yaris offers excellent fuel economy and reliability. But the good news ends there. Emergency handling is sloppy, there's alot of noise, the driving position is uncomfortable, and stops are very long without the optional (but hard to find) antilock brakes."

Anyone else read this issue yet? What did you think?

:bs:Very misleading.

Ericvonzipper
03-08-2007, 04:42 PM
I completely AGREE with C.R. Mag, BUT....I also appreciate my Yaris for what it IS. Wish I could have got the Fit, but if I had to settle, I could have done much worse than my Little Yaris! :wink:
Mike

forpinks
03-08-2007, 08:33 PM
CONSUMER REPORT IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!!! AS IN B.U.L.L. S.H.I.T-bull shit...

I'll get my Yaris next week "i'll post pics when I get it", no matter what crap they say about its safety, cheapness, and lack of ABS equipped models... thats how I like my car... like a race car!!!

BTW the japanese kamikazes said that too... they said they dont need thick armor plates... bcoz their just blow up on ships anyway:biggrin: ... and they wont even make it to the target if they have that extra "ballast" weight of that sheet iron steel... RIGHT??? makes sense to me...:thumbup:

eTiMaGo
03-08-2007, 08:41 PM
BTW the japanese kamikazes said that too... they said they dont need thick armor plates... bcoz their just blow up on ships anyway:biggrin: ... and they wont even make it to the target if they have that extra "ballast" weight of that sheet iron steel... RIGHT??? makes sense to me...:thumbup:

Soon we'll see the headlines:

"Authorities suspect environmental terrorism as driver takes out large SUV using his lightweight car, killing himself in the process. Bystanders heard screams of "Banzaiiii!" before the impact."

:laugh:

forpinks
03-08-2007, 10:39 PM
HAHAHA!!!! GOOD ONE! which reminds me to recruit a bunch of american kids who suck at school and hates SUVs, to drive their little hyundai accents and stab all the wheels of SUVs and clean no OFF-ROAD experience trucks they can find...LOL!

BTW. I FORGOT THE JUST GONNA PART BEFOR THE SHIPS....

nsmitchell
03-09-2007, 10:47 AM
My Yaris handles like a dream! I thought most Yarii came with antilock brakes too. What up with those haters down at CR? Were they possibly referring to the sedan?

mkaresh
03-14-2007, 11:05 AM
this is very true. also needed to be taken into consideration is how much weight is being placed on things such as performance, luxury, safety, etc. reviews from mags like Car & Driver and Road & Track can be misleading since theire reviews are very heavily performance based. because of this, hondas will always typically do better than toyotas in those comparisons. we need to place more emphasis on their long term reviews, which shows the true liveability of vehicles. with that said, we ARE all human so we cant help but classify, quantify and compare different things. thats in our inherent nature. but one thing that magazines and reports will never be able to quantify is the level of satisfaction that us yarii owners genuinely have.

--B

The problem with CR's road test ratings is they don't divulge the weights used to calculate the overall scores. These legitimately vary from person to person, but it's not possible to tell how closely theirs match yours.

Aside from this, I have few issues with their road test ratings. Their reliability research, that's another story. Many major problems of which most people are unaware, starting with the survey. My critique:

Consumer Reports survey critique (http://www.truedelta.com/pieces/cr_survey.php)

A number of people here are already helping me create a superior alternative.

Yaris
03-14-2007, 02:32 PM
CR should go back to rating toasters ...:smile:...the Yaris is awesome...:thumbsup:
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Moose
03-15-2007, 06:51 PM
I completely AGREE with C.R. Mag, BUT....I also appreciate my Yaris for what it IS.

I totally agree, and I think that this is the point that people are missing- the Yaris can still be a great car for the money, even with those issues.