TRD rear sway bar brackets and bushings

[MasterShake]

I've had my car for almost 3 years now and a few years ago I picked up a rear sqay bar that I never got installed...

Now that I want to get it installed, I seem to have lost the brackets and bushings for it.

Does anybody know where just the brackets and bushings can be purchased?

[packetrace]

you only need bolt nuts washer...

[MasterShake]

I need the brackets and the bushings though, right?

[Sirius-XM]

If it's the TRD Rear Sway Bar it bolts directly on to the trailing arm, no brackets, no bushings

[MasterShake]

I thought it came with the c clamps for under the car since it comes with no sway bar from the factory

[Sirius-XM]

The Yaris has a torsion beam suspension so the sway bar isn't really a sway bar in the conventional sense but is instead a reinforcing spring for the torsion beam. It attaches to trailing arm part of torsion Beam. If this is the TRD Sway Bar for the Yaris (PTR11-52071), the installation instructions over at TRD Sparks where I got mine.

[MasterShake]

Thanks!

[edmscan]

At least you can get the TRD Rear Sway bar ... I have had 2 dealers here in Canada say that it is NOT available in Canada. So .. sucks to be us.

[403RS]

At least you can get the TRD Rear Sway bar ... I have had 2 dealers here in Canada say that it is NOT available in Canada. So .. sucks to be us.

I called the dealerships in Calgary, and they said the same thing...

...Until I gave them the part number from TRD Sparks (p/n PTR11-52071), and they said that they could get it, but it would be coming out of Vancouver and be big bucks.

So that swayed me to get the UR instead.

[cali yaris]

The Whiteline sway bar installs that way. :smile:

I thought it came with the c clamps for under the car since it comes with no sway bar from the factory

[Sirius-XM]

The Whiteline sway bar installs that way. :smile:

I wouldn't touch the Whiteline Sway Bar. For the sake of adjustability they are adding several points of potential failure. Rube Goldberg would be proud. It also is not a true swaybar either as a true swaybar attaches to the cars body and not the axle.

Either of the two different UR or the Trd Sway Bars should fit anyone's application.

[cali yaris]

^ None of them are sway bars, to be correct about it. You make it sound like the UR or TRD ones are. They are not. All are torsion bars. For the sake of common language we use "sway bar" so more people will understand where it goes and (more or less) what it does.

Further, I haven't seen a Whiteline sway bar break. For any car, not just the Yaris. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, of course.

With that said, we offer both types of torsion/sway bar so each customer can choose what's right for them.

[Sirius-XM]

^ None of them are sway bars, to be correct about it. You make it sound like the UR or TRD ones are. They are not. All are torsion bars. For the sake of common language we use "sway bar" so more people will understand where it goes and (more or less) what it does..

Where do I make it sound like the UR and TRD are real sway bars. I clearly stated in a previous comment that the TRD sway bar isn't really a sway bar. The UR bar is similiar to the TRD bar.

The Whiteline sway bar has only been out a year or two. More parts mean more points of failure. I have the TRD bar. I would have no issues with using the UR bars that you sell. I would not be comfortable with the Whiteline.

[tooter]

The Whiteline looks much larger in diameter and its adjustability is a real advantage. The only reason I got the TRD was that it tucked up so neatly underneath the car.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b90/compost_bin/car/IMG_5928.jpg

[1.5]

^ I never realized the Trd bar fit differently than the ur. It sits way up into the crease in you torsion beam.

[Gogogordy]

The Yaris has a torsion beam suspension so the sway bar isn't really a sway bar in the conventional sense but is instead a reinforcing spring for the torsion beam. It attaches to trailing arm part of torsion Beam. If this is the TRD Sway Bar for the Yaris (PTR11-52071), the installation instructions over at TRD Sparks where I got mine.

The way I understand it, a "torsion bar" IS the spring mechanism. If thats so, how can the Yaris have both a torsion bar AND coil springs?

Anyone old enough to remember the old VW Beetles (NOT the Macpherson strut equipped Super Beetles...thats a different story) knows what a true torsion bar suspension is, as they had it front and rear. You wont find a coil or leaf spring on the Beetle because they were suspended (suspensioned?) on true torsion bars. Springs which ran from side to side of the car within a tube, under "torque", or twisting tension, hence the word "torsion".

I don' t believe Yaris has a torsion bar in the traditional sense of the word.

[cali yaris]

^ The coil springs are for up and down movemente. We are talking about the horizontal "spring" that we call a sway bar/torsion bar. Different movement. It doesn't come with the car, but the torsion/sway bar is what we are talking about. When the car goes into a corner, the bar resists being twisted, just like your spring example. This transfers weight.

The front bar on the Yaris IS a sway bar - independent suspension up front.

[Gogogordy]

^ The coil springs are for up and down movemente. We are talking about the horizontal "spring" that we call a sway bar/torsion bar. Different movement. It doesn't come with the car, but the torsion/sway bar is what we are talking about. When the car goes into a corner, the bar resists being twisted, just like your spring example. This transfers weight.

The front bar on the Yaris IS a sway bar - independent suspension up front.

Agreed. I was clarifying Sirius' mis-statement re the Yaris' suspension type.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-XM
The Yaris has a torsion beam suspension so the sway bar isn't really a sway bar in the conventional sense but is instead a reinforcing spring for the torsion beam. It attaches to trailing arm part of torsion Beam. If this is the TRD Sway Bar for the Yaris (PTR11-52071), the installation instructions over at TRD Sparks where I got mine.

A sway bar is indeed a torsion spring, but the rear suspension on the Yaris isn't a torsion bar set-up, as Sirius-XM says it is. It isn't.

The sway bar isnt "a reinforcing spring spring for the torsion beam", as he states. It's a torsion spring to be installed (in the case of the Yaris) on a coil-sprung solid type rear axle. Same net effect, but not acting on a torsion bar type of axle.

[Gogogordy]

^ The coil springs are for up and down movemente. We are talking about the horizontal "spring" that we call a sway bar/torsion bar. Different movement. It doesn't come with the car, but the torsion/sway bar is what we are talking about. When the car goes into a corner, the bar resists being twisted, just like your spring example. This transfers weight.

The front bar on the Yaris IS a sway bar - independent suspension up front.

Agreed. I was clarifying Sirius' mis-statement re the Yaris' suspension type.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius-XM
The Yaris has a torsion beam suspension so the sway bar isn't really a sway bar in the conventional sense but is instead a reinforcing spring for the torsion beam. It attaches to trailing arm part of torsion Beam. If this is the TRD Sway Bar for the Yaris (PTR11-52071), the installation instructions over at TRD Sparks where I got mine.

A sway bar is indeed a torsion spring, but the rear suspension on the Yaris isn't a torsion bar set-up, as Sirius-XM says it is. It isn't.

The sway bar isnt "a reinforcing spring spring for the torsion beam", as he states. It's a torsion spring to be installed (in the case of the Yaris) on a coil-sprung solid type rear axle. Same net effect, to minimize roll but not acting on a torsion bar type of axle in this case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_bar_suspension

[cali yaris]

Glad we got that all straightened out! :smile:

[Gogogordy]

Glad we got that all straightened out! :smile:


We're both quite relieved, I'm sure! :headbang:

[Sirius-XM]

I said the suspension is a torsion BEAM not Torsion Bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_beam

It is a torsion beam as opposed to two independent swing arms that can be attached in a variety of manners. Using the Beetle as an example, The Beetle had two independent trailing arms that attached to the body via torsion bars in a tube. The yaris has a single unit suspension with a beam that twists to allow the trailing arms some degree of independence.

[Gogogordy]

I said the suspension is a torsion BEAM not Torsion Bar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_beam

It is a torsion beam as opposed to two independent swing arms that can be attached in a variety of manners. Using the Beetle as an example, The Beetle had two independent trailing arms that attached to the body via torsion bars in a tube. The yaris has a single unit suspension with a beam that twists to allow the trailing arms some degree of independence.

I stand corrected Sirius.

[tooter]

^ I never realized the Trd bar fit differently than the ur. It sits way up into the crease in you torsion beam.

That's the unique design feature I like the most because I live in an area where ground clearance is a necessity.