My wheel dreams crushed or, how heavy is too heavy?

[Yaristeve]

I've been looking for a set of new rims. I always liked the look of the Ronal Turbo R10 and learned that it is now possible to buy them in the US:

http://www.ronalwheels.co.uk/?page_id=25.

My plan was to strip them and powdercoat them all white (my Yaris is white). I think aero style wheels suit the Yaris' style/shape perfectly. They come in 15 X 7 38mm offset.

So what's the problem? They weigh about 18pounds each!! They were, IIRC, originally made for rallying and like ALL rally wheels, they are heavy.

I am an engineer and I also have a Miata which really responds to LIGHT wheels. I have a set of Volk TE37 (15 X 7, 9 pounds each) on my Miata. So, I find it difficult to wrap my mind around 18 pound wheels on such a small car.

How badly do you all think wheels this heavy will affect the ride, handling, gas mileage of the Yaris? Should I go look for more traditional wheels?

[1.5]

They will slow acceleration, decrease gas mileage but if you are going for the look than who cares. Ive got some 20+ lb wheels getting ready to be mounted.

[fnkngrv]

go boosted and power issues won't be a concern :)

[yaris2010RS]

^ lmfao exactly what i was gonna say, I believe my summer rims are about 16-17 LBS each plus cheap tires i was at over 35 LBS per corner. with stock engine it was noticable but i could drive comfortably, boosted i didnt even notice it.

Compliment your new rims with a Turbo or S/C and youll be quite happy

[1.5]

I like your guys' suggestion. Love the thought process lol

[yaris2010RS]

yeah! i purchased an ATV and then needed to buy a GMC Pickup and a trailer to haul it around. Do what you gotta do to live the life style you want

[cali yaris]

Offset the weight with a slightly smaller overall tire. You'll get your acceleration back.

At least they're 15's. :smile:

[Golddeenoh]

my wheels are 15.6 lbs and I want them to be lighter, so i understand the weight desire. Those would look pretty sick on the yaris, and as long as you aren't concerned with silly things like mpg then it doesn't mater their weight, but as for acceleration, boosted fun is always an option, plus lightening the car as a whole to better the power to weight ratio.

[33OH]

My wheels are 28.3 lbs. each. Acceleration is diminished but my rolling weight on the highway is amazing; I can coast for miles. Still getting upper-mid 40's gas mileage wise. (But again, I am all highway. 110 miles per day round trip.)

[WeeYari]

Don't go any wider than a 195 tire. There's a lot of weight in the tread, and keeping the contact patch smaller will help with f/e. I had 195/16s, and am now on 215/17s. My 17s are a lighter wheel, but the tires are killing me.

[Yaristeve]

LOL. Thanks for the answers so far.

But boosting is not really in my Yaris' future. It is my daily driver and I don't want to introduce any problems. Besides, the acceleration issue is my lowest concern, except for the climb over the mountains on the way to Vegas. I am mostly concerned about heavy boat anchors crashing bashing through potholes and causing the car to get "thrown around". I do plan on lowering it sometime in the near future so I don't want the handling to get affected too badly. Plus, I remember the day I installed the Volks on my Miata and went from 12 pounds per wheel to 9 pounds. It felt very nice although it might have been mostly in my mind after paying $400 each...

And then there is the gas mileage. I've come to enjoy the 36MPG average gas mileage. How much do you think it will drop?

Hearing some of you guys installing as-heavy and heavier wheels makes me feel a little better; maybe enough to go ahead and take the plunge anyway.

Lastly, what is really ironic is that Ronal calls itself, "Ronal Light Alloy Wheels". The 16 X 7.5 version of this wheel (R50) is 24 pounds!!! Maybe their other wheels are light but they need to make a new subdivision just for these two wheels, "Ronal Strong and Robust but No Way In Hell Light Alloy Wheels Division"...

[cali yaris]

^ ha, good one

[1.5]

Im no professional but that may have a negative impact as far as marketing is concerned lol

[33OH]

ESM makes a 15x8 +20 as a rep (not quite a rep, but a similar wheel I suppose), about $650 shipped and they do come in white already. Still weigh 18 lbs., but you have an extra inch of rim as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/15x8-15-Wheels-Rims-4x100-ESM-001-OPEL-GT-VW-BMW-E30-E21-SCION-HONDA-KIA-MINI-/251194333257?hash=item3a7c595849&item=251194333257&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

[yaris2010RS]

The Pefrect rims you want.......................$1,200
The Perfect tires your want.....................$400
Zage kit from garm to ofset the weight...$1,600


Having the perfect car..........................PRICELESS

for eveything else there is mastercard......or in Garms case, Paypal

[thebarber]

if you do mostly city driving, heavy wheels will adversely affect your mileage, unless you drive with a light touch on the throttle

if you do a lot of highway, heavy wheels will likely be nicer as they'll hold your momentum, but keep in mind that your braking distances will be a bit longer

33OH has big heavy-ass 18's, but theyre great for cruising

i wouldnt worry about potholes so much for the wheels sake...theyll be sturdy

my personal experience is driving my car with 14" steelies and crandalls car with 17lb 17's. i noticed a huge difference in acceleration and braking (was slower to go and stop with the 17's)

[marlondog]

Keep the dream alive, and get those mofos. You dont need ultra light wheels to drive your car to 'space boy' from Initial D. Those wheelz are as sick as bumz fucking. I would keep them the way they are. If you are looking for similar wheels, you can always get the ESM 001 wheels.

[Yaristeve]

Keep the dream alive, and get those mofos. You dont need ultra light wheels to drive your car to 'space boy' from Initial D. Those wheelz are as sick as bumz fucking. I would keep them the way they are. If you are looking for similar wheels, you can always get the ESM 001 wheels.

Memory Fab, a used JDM wheel dealer in Northern California, had a set of Bridgestone DTM wheels that, other than the lettering, look exactly like these (cap and pin, included). I was thinking of buying them (they were for sale for the longest time) but when I decided to pull the trigger, they were gone. :( I forgot where I saw it, but I actually read a post by the buyer asking a few questions about the wheels; double burn...

Are these your wheels? The reason I hesitated buying is because I can't tell if the face sticks out past the lip. Does it? If not, triple burn...

The reason I would paint it all white is because I don't like TOO much bling. I even painted the polished stainless steel muffler body of the Tanabe Medallion Touring flat black, although I did leve the tip shiny.

[Yaristeve]

ESM makes a 15x8 +20 as a rep (not quite a rep, but a similar wheel I suppose), about $650 shipped and they do come in white already. Still weigh 18 lbs., but you have an extra inch of rim as well.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/15x8-15-Wheels-Rims-4x100-ESM-001-OPEL-GT-VW-BMW-E30-E21-SCION-HONDA-KIA-MINI-/251194333257?hash=item3a7c595849&item=251194333257&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr

Thanks, but 8" is too wide for me. I want it to fit comfortably inside the fenders. But I will do some searching about ESM!!!

[1.5]

8s fit fine. 16x8+12 and SLAMMED, pretty much no rubbing

[cali yaris]

for eveything else there is mastercard......or in Garms case, Paypal

And Krugerrands, gold teeth, natural gas futures, shares in Tesla... etc.

[marlondog]

Memory Fab, a used JDM wheel dealer in Northern California, had a set of Bridgestone DTM wheels that, other than the lettering, look exactly like these (cap and pin, included). I was thinking of buying them (they were for sale for the longest time) but when I decided to pull the trigger, they were gone. :( I forgot where I saw it, but I actually read a post by the buyer asking a few questions about the wheels; double burn...

Are these your wheels? The reason I hesitated buying is because I can't tell if the face sticks out past the lip. Does it? If not, triple burn...

The reason I would paint it all white is because I don't like TOO much bling. I even painted the polished stainless steel muffler body of the Tanabe Medallion Touring flat black, although I did leve the tip shiny.

I just saw the wheels online, and figured that you could do something similar to the esm wheels is you want them to look like the Ronal's.

[marlondog]

Here's some other wheels you can drool over:

http:forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4945509-Turbo-Wheels-Own-You-Version-2 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4945509-Turbo-Wheels-Own-You-Version-2)

[WeeYari]

8s fit fine. 16x8+12 and SLAMMED, pretty much no rubbing

...but with exactly how much stretch? ...

[Yaristeve]

Here's some other wheels you can drool over:

http:forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4945509-Turbo-Wheels-Own-You-Version-2 (http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4945509-Turbo-Wheels-Own-You-Version-2)

You're an evil, evil man. More evil than the guy in your avatar... :)

[vten]

Like a Lot .....175 on 8's ... Hardcore ! Lol

[Yaristeve]

And Krugerrands...

No need to dabble in gold black market anymore. US Mint now has 1oz pure gold bullion, too!

[Yaristeve]

8s fit fine. 16x8+12 and SLAMMED, pretty much no rubbing

I don't see how 16 X 8 +12 will fit without rubbing even if you did stretch 205/50 on them when according to the wheel sticky you need at least a +38...

[1.5]

...but with exactly how much stretch? ...

Like a Lot .....175 on 8's ... Hardcore ! Lol

Lol Tan is exact on the specs. Youd be surprised, 175s are s drives and Yokohama makes fat ass tires so they are not THAT extreme, 165/45 on an 8 is extreme which is what I ran before.

I don't see how 16 X 8 +12 will fit without rubbing even if you did stretch 205/50 on them when according to the wheel sticky you need at least a +38...

205 is deff not a stretch on an 8 unless you get some falken 512s and even then it is barely any stretch

I have ran 165/45 on an 8 as my daily, no issue other than there is a pubic hair's with of cushy rubber between you and the road.

That sticky is not an end all say all Bible it is a guide for noobs.

[33OH]

Thanks, but 8" is too wide for me. I want it to fit comfortably inside the fenders. But I will do some searching about ESM!!!

Sorry I've been in Miata-land too long. 8" is skinny to me haha. Good luck!

[1.5]

Sorry I've been in Miata-land too long. 8" is skinny to me haha. Good luck!

I have slowly come to realize the same.

[vten]

Hahaha I can't keep up with u guys ! U guys r hardcore ! Lol

[mr_miles]

8 inch wide wheels are skinny. i feel like im running on ice skates with these d2's. 10 inch wide rear wheel or bust! (which will be done sunday, one got finished last night!)

I forget what size tire I have one them. 185 50 i think?

[1.5]

OMG 185s on 10s???

And yes Miles knows what wide wheels look like lol but I'm only 1/4" skinnier can I still be cool? Lol

[yarisugi]

I priced out the 15x8 on their website. They have two offsets for 4x100
and 15x8, a +35 offset and a +20 offset. Total was $700. If their online promo
code for holiday savings of 20% applies, then 700-140= $560! What a deal.
Of course, I didn't go that far but a good choice to consider. Might look something like this?

[mr_miles]

Anything over 9 inches is acceptable. (THE PUNS, THERE ARE SO MANY)
I'm waiting on the edge of my seat to see those get on your car. They're going to look so sexy.

We're going opposite ends of the spectrum it seems lol. the 92's are so small compared to yours.

[1.5]

Lol dude I can't wait either! I'm actually stoked for some more ODG 2.0

Its cool to see how our tastes are so similar and differ so much still and to see how our rides build up as a result. We both go pretty quickly too so its always fun to see, what has Miles has down now lol

Sugi, you're on air man! Go nuts. The esm bottle caps are cool and all but you could be running their 02s in like 15x9 +0 or something. You actually have the capacity to run those nasty ass low offset wheels that I rape and pillage my fenders every weekend for and drag my frame down the street to try that while static. I know you've got some bread too to afford that air kit. ;)

[Yaristeve]

I priced out the 15x8 on their website. They have two offsets for 4x100
and 15x8, a +35 offset and a +20 offset. Total was $700. If their online promo
code for holiday savings of 20% applies, then 700-140= $560! What a deal.
Of course, I didn't go that far but a good choice to consider. Might look something like this?

GAAAHHHHH!!! You Bastard!!! :biggrin: I practically convinced myself against buying 18 pound anchors and then you had to go and post this picture!!!!!! That's exactly what I was thinking it would look like. Now I want those wheels in 13 pound versions... :cry:

I had almost convinced myself to go the other way and get a set of 15 X 7, Hayashi Street STF (13 lbs each), painted (powdercoated) a monotonic white or some other color (green?) like Campagnolos instead of polished/black.

You've just set me back a few months' pondering...

[b20vteg]

i want these:

http://www.ronalwheels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/teddysilverlarge.jpg

[1.5]

Ronald Teddy's! Someone on here had them in bronze