Small Overlap Crash Test 2013 Yaris

[yarisse54]

:frown: - Okay dudes and dudettes. The 2013 Toyota Camry totally flunked the IIHS' new small-overlap crash test. We know that the Camry is *supposed* to be safer and structurally stronger than the Yaris.

:cry: - But now, it seems that the 2013 Yaris is doomed to fail the same small-overlap crash test, since it seems unlikely that Toyota would make their smallest car stronger and safer than their midsize sedan, the Camry.

:drinking: - So live in ignorance, or admit that Toyota seriously needs to redesign the safety cages in their cars ASAP?

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b549/yarisse54/2013CamryIIHSFailed.jpg

http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-honda-accord-suzuki-kizashi-rated-above-11-midsize-sedans-in-new-iihs-tests-307199.html/2013-toyota-camry-during-iihs-test/#axzz2HdmdHrOG

[yarisse54]

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b549/yarisse54/2013CamryIIHSFailed2.jpg

I remember that car buyers used to say: "I bought my Toyota because Toyota thinks of everything so that I don't have to".

Toyota is taking advantage of hard-working folks, who trust Toyota to engineer a little more safety into their cars.

Long story made short, Toyota better pull a "2013 Honda Civic refresh" move fast, and make their cars safer! Continuous improvement is something that Toyota buyers still remember and EXPECT from Toyota.

Being a 2012 Yaris owner, I look forward to Toyota's response.

[nookandcrannycar]

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b549/yarisse54/2013CamryIIHSFailed2.jpg

I remember that car buyers used to say: "I bought my Toyota because Toyota thinks of everything so that I don't have to".

Toyota is taking advantage of hard-working folks, who trust Toyota to engineer a little more safety into their cars.

Long story made short, Toyota better pull a "2013 Honda Civic refresh" move fast, and make their cars safer! Continuous improvement is something that Toyota buyers still remember and EXPECT from Toyota.

Being a 2012 Yaris owner, I look forward to Toyota's response.

The best (and in some cases worst) safety instrument is the driver. I have a lot of confidence in my own defensive driving ability/situational awareness. Crash test results aren't a make or break for me, fuel economy and reliability are. In my experience, the Yaris is top notch in both fuel economy and reliability.

[nookandcrannycar]

The best (and in some cases worst) safety instrument is the driver. I have a lot of confidence in my own defensive driving ability/situational awareness. Crash test results aren't a make or break for me, fuel economy and reliability are. In my experience, the Yaris is top notch in both fuel economy and reliability.

For those of you who have to drive regularly during a Winter where there is lots of ice and snow, I can see why the protection the car itself provides would be a higher priority than it is for me.

[DMZ]

I have been driving in the PNW for 45 years. 99% of the cars I have owned in the past would probably fail that test. The old Subaru's and Datsun pick-ups, for sure, would fail miserably. I am not about to start wringing my hands now.

[matti]

I'm not sure that it's the best way to think about the topic, but the safety test ratings of a vehicle have never influenced my auto purchasing decisions. It's simply something that I don't consider. If I had children, however, I suppose I'd think differently?

[DebbyM46227]

I care more about reliability and gas mileage than safety. I'm a safe driver myself and I'm always on the lookout that some idiot driver may crash into me, but that's all I can do. After all, I drove a Ford Pinto for years - the one where the gas tank exploded easily - and I was lucky no one ever rear-ended me.

[Hershey]

We've drove small cars since the 80s' . Chevette , Colts ( Champs ) , Corolla , and many others . Crash tests help our decision . But only 40% . All it takes is one careless driver to make your day . Been running into those alot as of lately . Literally for the '08 sedan .

[yarisse54]

My buddy said it the best the other day:

..."the worldwide economic situation is kinda gloomy, and people are just not paying enough attention when they drive because they keep on thinking/worrying about other things".

Case in point - a Chrysler minivan backed right INTO my bud's 2009 Civic at the restaurant parking lot at 30 km/hr (the other driver was on his cell, and was still talking when he got out of his car to inspect the damage. Gives male drivers a bad rap.)

[2o6]

Most cars failed this test. The only cars that passed, IIRC, was Volvo. It's an unfair test; it focuses a huge amount of energy on a very small portion.

[jayeh]

I remember that car buyers used to say: "I bought my Toyota because Toyota thinks of everything so that I don't have to".

I've never heard that before. Like nookandcrannycar I've heard of reliability, fuel economy, and resale value. If anything Toyota isn't the company that thinks of everything, and their cars are often lacking features compared to competition. That being said I still bought a Yaris instead of an Accent/Rio despite them having power windows, cruise control, a stereo with an aux input and a bunch of other goodies that the Yarii in my price range didn't have.

The best (and in some cases worst) safety instrument is the driver. I have a lot of confidence in my own defensive driving ability/situational awareness. Crash test results aren't a make or break for me, fuel economy and reliability are. In my experience, the Yaris is top notch in both fuel economy and reliability.
Same here. I can drive anything and not have a problem.

For those of you who have to drive regularly during a Winter where there is lots of ice and snow, I can see why the protection the car itself provides would be a higher priority than it is for me.

I'm not worried about my car in the winter. I can see the idiots coming and avoid them.

[nookandcrannycar]

I'm not sure that it's the best way to think about the topic, but the safety test ratings of a vehicle have never influenced my auto purchasing decisions. It's simply something that I don't consider. If I had children, however, I suppose I'd think differently?

Whenever I have driven children around, either my godson or my little cousin who inspired my yarisworld screen name has been one of the passengers. Given that, even though they are not my children (I don't have any), they are (I feel) as precious to me as they would be if they were mine and my normal high state of awareness while driving reaches an even higher level.

[nookandcrannycar]

We've drove small cars since the 80s' . Chevette , Colts ( Champs ) , Corolla , and many others . Crash tests help our decision . But only 40% . All it takes is one careless driver to make your day . Been running into those alot as of lately . Literally for the '08 sedan .

Interesting that you had a Colt/Champ. I had one that I bought new. I think it was the most inexpensive car I've ever purchased new. I got 90 some odd thousand miles out of it before the engine management device (what the ECM would be in the Yaris I imagine) went out and the clutch was a few hundred miles from giving out. The engine management part, the physical part, was about 700.00. I figured with that, labor to install it, and parts and labor re the clutch, fixing it would be a poor investment so I decided to junk it. The Blue Book value was close to zero anyway. I didn't put any money into repairs, but a '90 some odd k' lifespan before hitting repairs that wouldn't make sense was less than I expected. It also was kind of mediocre re MPG.

[nookandcrannycar]

I've never heard that before. Like nookandcrannycar I've heard of reliability, fuel economy, and resale value. If anything Toyota isn't the company that thinks of everything, and their cars are often lacking features compared to competition. That being said I still bought a Yaris instead of an Accent/Rio despite them having power windows, cruise control, a stereo with an aux input and a bunch of other goodies that the Yarii in my price range didn't have.


Same here. I can drive anything and not have a problem.



I'm not worried about my car in the winter. I can see the idiots coming and avoid them.

:thumbsup:

[UberSilver]

I feel much safer in my Yaris, than on my motorcycle!:biggrin:

But use some common sense(in you have any). If your buying a Yaris for safety, and you think any 2300 lb car will save you against a small overlap with a 5000~6000 lb SUV/Pickup, you may be a fool.:bellyroll:


:frown: - Okay dudes and dudettes. The 2013 Toyota Camry totally flunked the IIHS' new small-overlap crash test. We know that the Camry is *supposed* to be safer and structurally stronger than the Yaris.

:cry: - But now, it seems that the 2013 Yaris is doomed to fail the same small-overlap crash test, since it seems unlikely that Toyota would make their smallest car stronger and safer than their midsize sedan, the Camry.

:drinking: - So live in ignorance, or admit that Toyota seriously needs to redesign the safety cages in their cars ASAP?

[UberSilver]

I've never heard that before.

That's because Volvo was big on pushing safety. I've never heard Toyota brag about safety either.:wink:

[jayeh]

That's because Volvo was big on pushing safety. I've never heard Toyota brag about safety either.:wink:

It's all they talk about now after all their bad PR.

[UberSilver]

I dont watch much TV, so i guess I missed it.

[why?]

it is the iihs. they lie and steal and do everything they can to make the car companies look bad. They are the ralph nader of the current time. But with even less morals, if that is even possible.

The Yaris has done extremely well in european crash tests.

[jayeh]

The Yaris has done extremely well in european crash tests.

yes, but that is an EU market Yaris with a pile of airbags that are expensive extras here....

[why?]

yes, but that is an EU market Yaris with a pile of airbags that are expensive extras here....

if you want to believe an institute with an agenda to get car companies to bribe them to get better scores, be my guest. I on the other hand, will use my brain and make my own choices.

[jayeh]

if you want to believe an institute with an agenda to get car companies to bribe them to get better scores, be my guest. I on the other hand, will use my brain and make my own choices.

What?

You're comparing apples and oranges here. The EU spec Yaris has Side body airbags, Side head airbags and Driver knee airbags which the ones here don't have as standard equipment. You can't compare the results directly. I'm not exactly sure what you're point is..

[Kal-El]

The IIHS keeps inventing new tests and run the tests before an automaker can comply with such extreme crashes.

Needless to say, the Camry is a safe car. But tests like this make Toyota look bad. Most people will see a report such as this and without looking into the details, conclude that the Camry is a death trap.

[DMZ]

As rated by IIHS:


1 - Fiat 500 (Lounge, CLounge, Sport, Pop and CPop)
2 - Kia Rio 5 (LX and SX)
3 - Toyota Corolla L
4 - Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart
5 - Mercedes-Benz CL600



http://www.insure.com/car-insurance/passenger-injuries-2013.html

[kou]

Here is the 2012 crash tests in europe. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqqlBY0_fe8

[kou]

And here is a great camry vs third gen yaris offset crash test. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19znNFka-eU

[why?]

What?

You're comparing apples and oranges here. The EU spec Yaris has Side body airbags, Side head airbags and Driver knee airbags which the ones here don't have as standard equipment. You can't compare the results directly. I'm not exactly sure what you're point is..

no i am not. airbags only hurt people, they don't do much to help. This "test" is not meant to test anything, it is to make car companies look bad so they will bribe the iihs to stop it.

The IIHS is a privately run, privately owned by insurance companies organization. If you don't think they are looking for a payoff from auto companies, i have a bridge i want to sell you.

[DMZ]

The IIHS is a privately run, privately owned by insurance companies organization. If you don't think they are looking for a payoff from auto companies, i have a bridge i want to sell you.

After lurking about on their website, I totally agree with you.

[yarisse54]

:frown: - Okay dudes and dudettes. The 2013 Toyota Camry totally flunked the IIHS' new small-overlap crash test. We know that the Camry is *supposed* to be safer and structurally stronger than the Yaris.

:cry: - But now, it seems that the 2013 Yaris is doomed to fail the same small-overlap crash test, since it seems unlikely that Toyota would make their smallest car stronger and safer than their midsize sedan, the Camry.

:drinking: - So live in ignorance, or admit that Toyota seriously needs to redesign the safety cages in their cars ASAP?

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b549/yarisse54/2013CamryIIHSFailed.jpg

http://wot.motortrend.com/2013-honda-accord-suzuki-kizashi-rated-above-11-midsize-sedans-in-new-iihs-tests-307199.html/2013-toyota-camry-during-iihs-test/#axzz2HdmdHrOG

As a buyer of a Camry, you can always try to justify your purchase by saying that the Camry has a good record of reliability, good interior spaciousness, or even comes in the color you want (!).

The truth is, the Camry and the Yaris are victims of cost-cutting to the extreme. Both vehicles have less steel than previous models (~200 lbs saved in the 2012 Camry over the 2007-2011 model).

No joke, but the 2012 onwards Yaris requires the buyer to pretend they do not see the lack of sound insulation, the absence of covered wheel wells, the hard plastic dash/door panels, no telescoping steering wheel, and absolutely no soft-touch trim on the rear doors!

Even though the Camry superficially performs just as well as other vehicles in the class, this new IIHS Small Overlap crash-test has revealed a serious trend of misrepresenting bad new products as being good or better than the old cars.

2012 - 2013 Camry and Yaris are better in some ways, but consumers are short-changed by the elimination of small features (sound proofing and thicker steel) which used to make Toyota vehicles quite refined in comparison to the competition. :thumbdown:

[xnamerxx]

You really should link the results. Almost no car's tested has passed with good results.


IIHS Crash Test (http://www.iihs.org/ratings/summary.aspx?class=15)

[jayeh]

2012 - 2013 Camry and Yaris are better in some ways, but consumers are short-changed by the elimination of small features (sound proofing and thicker steel) which used to make Toyota vehicles quite refined in comparison to the competition. :thumbdown:

Really?

Once again not something I associate with Toyota. :iono:

Thicker steel and soundproofing makes me think of a domestic.