Super Bowl Predictions

[david_827]

Any thoughts on the upcoming super bow matchup? Who do you think is gonna win? Of course as a bostonian i am a HUGE New England fan, but unfortunately my Pats wont be competing this year, so of course i'm going to root against the team that defeated my beloved Pats.... so go Niners and Colin!

[nookandcrannycar]

Any thoughts on the upcoming super bow matchup? Who do you think is gonna win? Of course as a bostonian i am a HUGE New England fan, but unfortunately my Pats wont be competing this year, so of course i'm going to root against the team that defeated my beloved Pats.... so go Niners and Colin!

I love your cogent, intelligent posts....but I DESPISE your team :biggrin:! Kraft is a classy owner, but I can't stand Belichick and Brady (Brady for reasons that have nothing to do with his football prowess). If I could wish for anything over the next 5+ years re the NFL, it would be that Brady never gets another ring (and THAT is purely for on field reasons). I'm a lifelong 49ers and Raiders fan and always want to still be able to say that Montana is the best QB ever (unless Colin surpasses him!) I think Montana would be the only QB with 5 SB rings and the only 3-peat if Craig hadn't fumbled in the 1990 season NFC championship Game (the worst moment in 49ers history IMO).....Go Niners!

[why?]

i'd like to see new orleans nuked during halftime. or if not that, at least the 49ers putting up 60 or so on the team full of thugs. the ravens are going to be poster boys for anyone who wants to win a lawsuit against the nfl for safety. Just a short film reel, and no jury will think the NFL gives a damn about safety.

[Jabro]

i'd like to see new orleans nuked during halftime

I live here and have to agree, New Orleans has some good qualities, but the good comes nowhere close to making up for the bad. Probably the most corrupt city in the United States.

[nookandcrannycar]

I live here and have to agree, New Orleans has some good qualities, but the good comes nowhere close to making up for the bad. Probably the most corrupt city in the United States.

Has a lot more rebuilding been done since 2008 ? I spent almost a month there in 2008 volunteering for Habitat for Humanity. I worked in the Florida neighborhood in the 9th Ward and in Musician's Village. I didn't get over to the West Bank (going over the Crescent City Bridge), but I drove all over the rest of the city and through most of St. Bernard's Parish -- From the Orleans parish line through Arabi, Chalmette, Violet etc., down to Camp Hope in St. Bernard. I took thousands of pictures. I was amazed at how little had been done in the 3 years (at that time) since Katrina. Despite it's problems, there is something about New Orleans that just pulls me in. It isn't a dull place to visit.

[jRoss]

I bet my buddy $20 on the ravens, so go ravens... said the colts fans.

[Jabro]

Has a lot more rebuilding been done since 2008 ? I spent almost a month there in 2008 volunteering for Habitat for Humanity. I worked in the Florida neighborhood in the 9th Ward and in Musician's Village. I didn't get over to the West Bank (going over the Crescent City Bridge), but I drove all over the rest of the city and through most of St. Bernard's Parish -- From the Orleans parish line through Arabi, Chalmette, Violet etc., down to Camp Hope in St. Bernard. I took thousands of pictures. I was amazed at how little had been done in the 3 years (at that time) since Katrina. Despite it's problems, there is something about New Orleans that just pulls me in. It isn't a dull place to visit.

I moved here after 2008, so its hard for me to judge how much has improved. However, I can say Arabi and Chalmette look like something you'd see in a third world country, I was in Chalmette just last week and could not believe how run down it was, and I've lived near some bad places in my life.

[nookandcrannycar]

I moved here after 2008, so its hard for me to judge how much has improved. However, I can say Arabi and Chalmette look like something you'd see in a third world country, I was in Chalmette just last week and could not believe how run down it was, and I've lived near some bad places in my life.

A company called Onboard Informatics compiles lots of stats for each zip code in the U.S. that is at least somewhat residential (some post offices have their own zip codes so there isn any info for those, and there are other exceptions. I remember looking at that info before driving to St. Bernard. The income level in both the Lower 9th on the Northwest side of the Parish line and Arabi on the Southeast side of the Parish line are both very low, yet one side has a crime rate through the roof and the other side vey low. Both sides being racially nearly homogenous with different majorities in each. When I later drove through the area (and I can't remember if I was driving on LA 39 or LA 46) there was a St. Bernard Parish 'Law Enforcement' Substation literally just a few feet over the line into St. Bernard Parish. It was eerie. Almost like a checkpoint. First time I'd had that feeling in the U.S. (and I've been to the worst parts of LA, SF, Oakland, Richmond CA, Philadelphia, NYC, DC, Camden NJ, and Patterson NJ. Only the worst part of Mobile, AL has given me that feeling since.

So many damaged areas of Orleans Parish had damaged, twisted, and rotted out buildings, but some semblance of a building was often there. In contrast parts of Arabi, and other parts of St. Bernard Parish looked like the destroyed parts of Biloxi (near the beach)....just flattened.

[bronsin]

As a Giants fan the Ravens whipped our butts in the SuperBowl played in 2000. Also Ray Lewis was involved in some way in a mans murder that he has never fully explained. Although the NFL allows him to play so maybe its not bad. I dont know.

The 49ers and the Giants have fought to a draw on a very high level numerous times. We've gotten the better of them and theyve gotten the better of us about the same number of times.

I am a fan of neither team so I will just have to be happy in the knowledge one of them will LOSE!

As to an unbiased opinion who will win I really cant say. The 49ers are excellent on offense and defence and their new quarterback (who doesnt have much experience at all) has an amazing touch on the ball and is a threat to run if the play breaks down. They are an outstanding organization with excellent coaching.

The Ravens were going nowhere this year until they beat the Giants in week 16. Since then I have been waiting for them to fall on their face but it hasnt happened. They beat the Broncos and they beat the Patriots both in away games. Kind of like the Giants did last year and in 08.

To top it off my son in law is a Ravens fan. He makes $250,000 a year and my wife and I are looking at losing our jobs in our old age so its not like I can afford to argue with him.

Prediction: An awesome game with a lot of lead changes and come from behind charges.

Ravens 20 49er 17.

[nookandcrannycar]

They are an outstanding organization with excellent coaching.


Same back to your Giants.....and they will always have a place in my heart for twice beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

[Superfly]

I want the Ravens to win but I still do not believe that their defense will find a way to stop the 49ers QB Kaepernick. He's too nimble, fast, and he has shown signs of making insanely accurate passes. The 49ers just have too much offensive weapons to be stopped. I voted for the Ravens but my heart is telling me it will be a blow-out.

SF: 34 Baltimore: 17

[bronsin]

Same back to your Giants.....and they will always have a place in my heart for twice beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

Being a Giants fan these past five years has been an awesome priveledge. How many teams have won in the playoffs for their fans like the Giants have?

None that come to mind right away...

On the other hand....

Ive never seen a team lose so badly during the regular season and STILL get to the playoffs and then actually play well enough to win the SuperBowl!

TWICE!!!

Thats why my pick is for the Ravens. Theyre doing what the Giants did.

On the other hand...

The 49ers could blow them out. Their quarterback is outstanding most of the time and they have consistant defense.

[nookandcrannycar]

Being a Giants fan these past five years has been an awesome priveledge. How many teams have won in the playoffs for their fans like the Giants have?

None that come to mind right away...

On the other hand....

Ive never seen a team lose so badly during the regular season and STILL get to the playoffs and then actually play well enough to win the SuperBowl!

TWICE!!!

Thats why my pick is for the Ravens. Theyre doing what the Giants did.

On the other hand...

The 49ers could blow them out. Their quarterback is outstanding most of the time and they have consistant defense.

And don't you guys get the privilege of hosting the first outdoor Super Bowl in a cold weather location (either ever or at least since the merger) for Super Bowl 48 ?....or is it 49 ?

[nookandcrannycar]

Being a Giants fan these past five years has been an awesome priveledge. How many teams have won in the playoffs for their fans like the Giants have?

None that come to mind right away...

On the other hand....

Ive never seen a team lose so badly during the regular season and STILL get to the playoffs and then actually play well enough to win the SuperBowl!

TWICE!!!

Thats why my pick is for the Ravens. Theyre doing what the Giants did.

On the other hand...

The 49ers could blow them out. Their quarterback is outstanding most of the time and they have consistant defense.

It is an awesome feeling isn't it. I felt that way from the 1980 season through the 1989 season when my 2 teams won 6 Super Bowls. plus the Lakers championships in the 80s.....not to mention baseball in 1989...my 2 teams playing each other..I couldn't lose. I feel bad for people whose teams never win a championship when my 6 teams (49ers and Raiders, Lakers and Warriors, Giants and A's) have won 26 championships (possibly 27 after Sunday) in the last 40 years.

[bronsin]

And don't you guys get the privilege of hosting the first outdoor Super Bowl in a cold weather location (either ever or at least since the merger) for Super Bowl 48 ?....or is it 49 ?

I think its next year. All thats done is inflate the Giants fans huris about playing the SB in their own stadium which isnt good for Karma...:thumbdown:

Has anyone ever played a SM in their own place?:iono:

[bronsin]

It is an awesome feeling isn't it. I felt that way from the 1980 season through the 1989 season when my 2 teams won 6 Super Bowls. plus the Lakers championships in the 80s.....not to mention baseball in 1989...my 2 teams playing each other..I couldn't lose. I feel bad for people whose teams never win a championship when my 6 teams (49ers and Raiders, Lakers and Warriors, Giants and A's) have won 26 championships (possibly 27 after Sunday) in the last 40 years.

I started watching the Giants in 1979 Phil Sims first year and had to wait until 1987 to see them win it all. :smile:

A lot of people didnt think the Giants could win a SB before that.

[djhuddy2442]

this superbowl game is not even interesting two teams that are remotely good sometimes will be playing cant wait for another steeler season to come along but for now LETS GO PENS

[fnkngrv]

this superbowl game is not even interesting two teams that are remotely good sometimes will be playing cant wait for another steeler season to come along but for now LETS GO PENS

How is it not interesting? I find it pretty cool that two brothers are going head to head as coaches in the big dance. Neither QB made it to the ProBowl, Also it is really nice to not see the same ole same ole teams. I am pretty tired of seeing the Pats, Steelers, Giants, Green Bay, etc playing in it. I honestly don't understand how folks back in the 60s anf 70s didn't get bored for example with the NBA championships with how many years the Celtics were in it. Sure, I would love to see my Vikings in the Super Bowl and preferably not choke as it their MO, but also wouldn't be enthused if they made a big run of several years necessarily. The Ravens have an established brute force team and the 49ers have an up and coming finesse team. Could be lots of fun to watch or it could be a train wreck for sure, but my biggest gripe is when one team just takes the other to the cleaners. That isn't any fun at all to watch.

[david_827]

[QUOTE=nookandcrannycar;683027]I love your cogent, intelligent posts....but I DESPISE your team :biggrin:! /QUOTE]

lol, alot of people despise my team

[david_827]

It is an awesome feeling isn't it. I felt that way from the 1980 season through the 1989 season when my 2 teams won 6 Super Bowls. plus the Lakers championships in the 80s.....not to mention baseball in 1989...my 2 teams playing each other..I couldn't lose. I feel bad for people whose teams never win a championship when my 6 teams (49ers and Raiders, Lakers and Warriors, Giants and A's) have won 26 championships (possibly 27 after Sunday) in the last 40 years.

similar to my hometown teams (Pats, Celtics, Bruins, Red Sox) winning something like 7 collective championships this millennium

[nookandcrannycar]

I think its next year. All thats done is inflate the Giants fans huris about playing the SB in their own stadium which isnt good for Karma...:thumbdown:

Has anyone ever played a SM in their own place?:iono:

In their own stadium -- No. In their own metropolitan area -- Yes. Twice. The Rams lost in SB 14 at the Rose Bowl, which is about 18 miles from their home field. The 49ers won SB 19 at Stanford Stadium, which is about 27 miles from their home field.

[nookandcrannycar]

The Rams lost in SB 14 at the Rose Bowl, which is about 18 miles from their home field

Oops, should be 'which was about 18 miles from their home field' as the the Rams play in St. Louis now.

[bronsin]

Heres an interesting article that recounts Ray Lewis's involvement in a double homicide in 2000.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/the_tarnish_on_ray_halo_YRCbY3bSvvbhKA5AvqpmbM/0

[why?]

the giants don't have good coaching. How could you even think that? Twice now they have won the Super Bowl and then not even made the playoffs the next year. That is pathetic.

If you think the 49'ers are a finesse team you haven't watched them much. They have the best D in the NFL, and one of the NFL's best rushing offenses.

And as far as what team has had the best runs, no one since the 49ers in the 90's has done what the Pats are doing. 3 sb's, and every single year they are in the hunt for another one. It really is ridiculous that every year the seem to be playing for the SB.

[bronsin]

The Giants coaching staff is frequently guility of tactical blunders, although so far they havnt had to pay the price for them.

The most insane one was when they fell into Bellichicks trap at the end of the SB. The one where Bradshaw fell ass first into the end zone. If they tell Eli to take three knees and kick a field goal, the Patriots get the ball back with 20 seconds left and no time outs. Instead Bellichick gets to have a time out and a minute to play with. This results in a pass into their end zone which Gronk almost catches. If he does the Giants LOSE. The Giants were lucky It took the Pats four plays to get a first down when they got the ball or there would have been more and closer heaves into the end zone.

Maybe bad tactics cost them a playoff slot this year though. Im thinking of the first Eagles game when their coach call for a fieldgoal with 10 or 15 seconds on the clock. They had time to run another play and pick up five or ten yards (the Eagles certainly would have defended the endzone from a touchdown) which would have made it a 40 yards field goal instead of a 50 yarder.

[fnkngrv]

the giants don't have good coaching. How could you even think that? Twice now they have won the Super Bowl and then not even made the playoffs the next year. That is pathetic.

If you think the 49'ers are a finesse team you haven't watched them much. They have the best D in the NFL, and one of the NFL's best rushing offenses.

And as far as what team has had the best runs, no one since the 49ers in the 90's has done what the Pats are doing. 3 sb's, and every single year they are in the hunt for another one. It really is ridiculous that every year the seem to be playing for the SB.


Funny how the Pats haven't won a SB either since they were forced to stop recording the opponents practices. :rolleyes:

As for my consideration of SF being finesse it is all relative to their opponent which in this case would be Balt. :thumbsup: . Unless mistaken I haven't heard of SF being called bruisers or brawlers, etc as I have when it comes to Balt.

[nookandcrannycar]

Funny how the Pats haven't won a SB either since they were forced to stop recording the opponents practices. :rolleyes:


^^^^^ This. ...and...The publishers of TD Magazine put out a soft cover book (it came out just before the playoffs started -- a few weeks ago) that featured a ranking of all 46 previous Super Bowls, basically by decisiveness of the win. One of the Patriot wins is at number #15 and the other 2 are in the high 30s. On the other hand, 3 of the 49ers 5 wins are in the top 9 on that list including the 55-10 win over Denver at #1.....and the editorial office responsible for the publication is in New York, not in California.

[david_827]

^^^^^ This. ...and...The publishers of TD Magazine put out a soft cover book (it came out just before the playoffs started -- a few weeks ago) that featured a ranking of all 46 previous Super Bowls, basically by decisiveness of the win. One of the Patriot wins is at number #15 and the other 2 are in the high 30s. On the other hand, 3 of the 49ers 5 wins are in the top 9 on that list including the 55-10 win over Denver at #1.....and the editorial office responsible for the publication is in New York, not in California.

i read the story as well, and as you said they were rank on decisiveness of the victory, 2 of the SBs were won by FGs so of course they wouldn't be ranked that high

[david_827]

Funny how the Pats haven't won a SB either since they were forced to stop recording the opponents practices. :rolleyes:

As for my consideration of SF being finesse it is all relative to their opponent which in this case would be Balt. :thumbsup: . Unless mistaken I haven't heard of SF being called bruisers or brawlers, etc as I have when it comes to Balt.

The reason why the Pats havent won a SB since is a mere coincidence. The years we had won a SB we had a pretty dominant defense. Pretty punishing as well with Rodney Harrison at Safety. If you McCourty, Chung or Gregory are anywhere near as intimidating to offenses as Harrison was, your kidding yourself. The past few SB runs by the Pats never featured a punishing defense like the one we had in the early 2000s.

Additionally we havent had a decent RB since Corey Dillon. Which was also the last time we won a SB. The whole RB by committee that the pats are currently running is a joke. We won't win another SB until the Pats stop depending so much on Brady's arm.

[nookandcrannycar]

We won't win another SB until the Pats stop depending so much on Brady's arm.

I agree. Even though team members have a high level of physical conditioning (otherwise the No Huddle wouldn't work well for them at any time, IMO), players would be fresher longer into the game if they had a back like Gore as a fellow teammate.

Of the four major pro sports in the U.S. only Baseball and Football have all their regular season games within one calendar year. I wondered, with a 49ers win, how many other times have teams from the same city won championships in both sports in the Super Bowl era? This would be the 5th time. You got to enjoy the last one (Patriots and Red Sox - 2004 Season), and the other 3 were 1986 Season (Mets and Giants), 1979 Season (Pirates and Steelers), and the 1970 Season (Colts and Orioles)...I thought some Bay Area members might find that interesting.

Super Bowl 39 wasn't won by kicking a field goal to break a tie, but the Patriots still only won by 3 points :biggrin:.

[sroberts]

I predict coach Harbaugh's team will win.

[nookandcrannycar]

I predict coach Harbaugh's team will win.

:laugh:

[nookandcrannycar]

my biggest gripe is when one team just takes the other to the cleaners. That isn't any fun at all to watch.

Unless the team winning by a huge margin is your favorite team :biggrin:.

[nookandcrannycar]

Funny how the Pats haven't won a SB either since they were forced to stop recording the opponents practices. :rolleyes:


'Marshall Faulk is still upset about the Super Bowl loss to the Patriots he suffered while playing for the Rams. He thinks that their final run through before the game was filmed by the Patriots' ----- I'm paraphrasing, but this was part of a message on the scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen on the NFL Channel tonight.

[fnkngrv]

Unless the team winning by a huge margin is your favorite team :biggrin:.


Nope...not for me anyway. :wink:

There have been plenty of games that the Vikings just crushed their opponents like back in the late 90s when they broke the point record for a season. Without spectacular plays to back up the points running it up it becomes a snoozefest to me.

As for David's comments about the last few years for the Pats and defense being an issue I will agree to a point, but personally I think that they need to get a fresh perspective in the management role and ditch B. He is nothing if not an ass and that is no coincidence.

I actually anticipate this year's bowl to be a stalemate and then just blow up with offense for both of them to lead to a decent points run on both sides of the board.

[nookandcrannycar]

'Marshall Faulk is still upset about the Super Bowl loss to the Patriots he suffered while playing for the Rams. He thinks that their final run through before the game was filmed by the Patriots' ----- I'm paraphrasing, but this was part of a message on the scrolling ticker at the bottom of the screen on the NFL Channel tonight.

This story is now on Shutdown Corner on Yahoo! Sports and the story has 3,153 comments.

[why?]

The Giants coaching staff is frequently guility of tactical blunders, although so far they havnt had to pay the price for them.

The most insane one was when they fell into Bellichicks trap at the end of the SB. The one where Bradshaw fell ass first into the end zone. If they tell Eli to take three knees and kick a field goal, the Patriots get the ball back with 20 seconds left and no time outs. Instead Bellichick gets to have a time out and a minute to play with. This results in a pass into their end zone which Gronk almost catches. If he does the Giants LOSE. The Giants were lucky It took the Pats four plays to get a first down when they got the ball or there would have been more and closer heaves into the end zone.

Maybe bad tactics cost them a playoff slot this year though. Im thinking of the first Eagles game when their coach call for a fieldgoal with 10 or 15 seconds on the clock. They had time to run another play and pick up five or ten yards (the Eagles certainly would have defended the endzone from a touchdown) which would have made it a 40 yards field goal instead of a 50 yarder.

The SB blunders aren't that big a deal, but missing the playoffs is inexcusable. That highlights bad coaching and bad leadership. They have too much talent to not be in it every year.

Funny how the Pats haven't won a SB either since they were forced to stop recording the opponents practices. :rolleyes:

As for my consideration of SF being finesse it is all relative to their opponent which in this case would be Balt. :thumbsup: . Unless mistaken I haven't heard of SF being called bruisers or brawlers, etc as I have when it comes to Balt.


don't be an ass. oh wait too late.

^^^^^ This. ...and...The publishers of TD Magazine put out a soft cover book (it came out just before the playoffs started -- a few weeks ago) that featured a ranking of all 46 previous Super Bowls, basically by decisiveness of the win. One of the Patriot wins is at number #15 and the other 2 are in the high 30s. On the other hand, 3 of the 49ers 5 wins are in the top 9 on that list including the 55-10 win over Denver at #1.....and the editorial office responsible for the publication is in New York, not in California.

Oh, I am not saying the Pats were as dominant as the 49er's. The Niners didn't have to deal with the salary cap or free agency. Everything has to be taken in that context, no one will ever be as dominant as teams that played before free agency.
Nope...not for me anyway. :wink:

There have been plenty of games that the Vikings just crushed their opponents like back in the late 90s when they broke the point record for a season. Without spectacular plays to back up the points running it up it becomes a snoozefest to me.

As for David's comments about the last few years for the Pats and defense being an issue I will agree to a point, but personally I think that they need to get a fresh perspective in the management role and ditch B. He is nothing if not an ass and that is no coincidence.

I actually anticipate this year's bowl to be a stalemate and then just blow up with offense for both of them to lead to a decent points run on both sides of the board.

it is like you are trying to win dumbest human being in human history. If you want bad management, then your vikes is as far as you need to look. talk about a horribly run organization.

[fnkngrv]

it is like you are trying to win dumbest human being in human history.

Yup...you pegged me!

/out

[nookandcrannycar]

Of the four major pro sports in the U.S. only Baseball and Football have all their regular season games within one calendar year. I wondered, with a 49ers win, how many other times have teams from the same city won championships in both sports in the Super Bowl era? This would be the 5th time. You got to enjoy the last one (Patriots and Red Sox - 2004 Season), and the other 3 were 1986 Season (Mets and Giants), 1979 Season (Pirates and Steelers), and the 1970 Season (Colts and Orioles)...I thought some Bay Area members might find that interesting.


Last night ESPN displayed a graphic re this subject and they also included 1938 and 1956 (both re the NY Yankees and the NY Giants). This graphic is correct if only 'championship game seasons' are counted. If not, there is one more - 1927 (also re the Yankees and Giants). From 1920 through 1932 the NFL didn't have a championship game and the champion was the team with the best winning percentage at the end of the season.