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eTiMaGo
03-16-2007, 04:06 AM
Firstly, you guys are gonna scream, but unfortunately my stupid phone ran out of battery, so I do not have any pictures :frown: I promise I will take some whenever I go there next!

But anyway, the main order of the day was to discuss with them the different possibilities for increasing the number of ponies going through the wheels.

The two main options they deal with are adding a turbo, and engine swaps.

TRD's Turbo solution was introduced on the limited edition Vios Turbo a few years back, and boosts the 1NZ-FE to about 140hp safely. I told the engineers there about ZPI's kit, but they do not recommend doing such power that without beefing up the internals first. They also quote about 180,000Baht for the complete install, which is about $5000 at current exchange rates. Not exactly good value for money.

Engine swap-wise, as we know the 2ZZ (190hp high-revving engine) is a pretty easy fit, they can do it including the 6-speed gearbox for about 150,000Baht ($4000). They haven't done many, there should be 3 or 4 on the road here with this engine. The car would also need to be at their workshop for about a month.

Just for fun, we asked the main engineer if they could do a 3S-GTE (250ish horsepower, easily tweakable to a lot more) swap along with 4WD conversion. And he said it's quite possible :eek: , using the Japanese Vitz's 4WD system. The engine would be a bloody tight fit, they'd have to almost remove the firewall, push the radiator as far forward as possible, but it could potentially fit. And he estimated no more than 300,000 baht ($8500) for the whole job. But, it would take them about 5 months to get everything done, as they have never attempted such a crazy thing on a Yaris before.

Anyway, they'll get back to us in about 2 weeks about feasibility of the 3S swap, they need to do a lot of research first! It's a crazy amount of money, I know, but they can arrange some basic financing terms to help. Plus, it would be one hell of a challenge for them, and definitely gonna end up with my car in several magazines :biggrin:

Apart from that, there were some interesting things to see at the shop... The arto wide-bodied Yaris was there, as well as two Vios, one with a 2ZZ, one with a 3S-GE (non turbo), you can really see the difference in size of the engine, the 3S is tight!

Also a one-make race Yaris without an engine (it had blown up...)

We also asked about joining the Yaris one-make races, but the guy recommended starting off with the new Vios (which most of you guys know as the Yaris Sedan) races, as the hatch is in a higher class :biggrin: They sell a pre-modded, ready to race version of the car at the same price as the base model. So, seeing as I unfortunately don't have enough money trees in the back yard, I have to choose... Join the one-make races, or create the absolutely craziest most powerful Yaris in the world? It could kick ass at drag races... Decisions decisions...

Oh and good news for sedan owners, they also showed us a prototype bodykit for the car, with integrated dual exhausts in the rear bumper, carbon fiber parts, etc. Looks good, and the price should be reasonable.

Anyway, that was a very most informative and educational day :biggrin: :thumbsup:

Kaotic Lazagna
03-16-2007, 04:43 AM
wow, a lot of info there. hope you keep us informed.

Violin
03-16-2007, 06:56 AM
Are you really going to put the 3S-GTE in your car? That would be completely sick! (in a good way)

While the car is in the shop you should have your spine reinforced with titanium to prevent whiplash from quick starts.

Black Yaris
03-16-2007, 07:03 AM
Pimpin ain't easy Thomas, pimpin ain't easy

Mister Kill
03-16-2007, 08:26 AM
Good !
A lot of information !!

But ; for the turbo kit ; you can have 140hp to 170hp
170hp is the max the engine can supporte ; but ; how many time...

Nutzoids
03-16-2007, 09:14 AM
Good to know... I just want a Turbo with 150hp... That would do me just fine!

:evil:

eTiMaGo
03-16-2007, 09:16 AM
Are you really going to put the 3S-GTE in your car? That would be completely sick! (in a good way)

While the car is in the shop you should have your spine reinforced with titanium to prevent whiplash from quick starts.

Well I have not decided yet, and they haven't quite worked out if it's feasible or not, but if it is, I guess I will have no choice but to uphold my Yaris pimpage and go for it. :laugh: There goes the end of discussion about lack of power... especially as there are plenty of upgradable parts for this engine, 400+HP is not uncommon. Of course, is a 400HP Yaris something that can actually be considered driveable? We'll see... we'll see...

Titanium spine, interesting idea :biggrin:

Chris07LB
03-16-2007, 09:20 AM
No pics.. :thumbdown: You suck so bad!! :laugh: GO BACK, GO BACK!! :tongue:

Dragonacc
03-16-2007, 01:20 PM
Man, I wish someone in the US would do a 2zz swap with six speed for $4000. That's a worthwhile performance increase of the money IMO.

Violin
03-16-2007, 01:39 PM
Okay - I will.

ChinoCharles
03-16-2007, 01:41 PM
I wonder if us statesiders can finance Toyota engines like that. Would be very interesting to look into once she is paid off.

Vic-2NZFE
03-16-2007, 02:00 PM
Good information to keep handy.

Thanks

jdubau55
03-16-2007, 04:36 PM
If you did most of the work yourself you could easily do the 2zz swap for 4000. What I would like to see more then the AWD Yaris is to take the AWD drive train and drop the front differential and just make it RWD. Gut it, CF fenders, hood, trunk lid...you would have one fast little ride.

bigsky2
03-16-2007, 04:43 PM
pfft..
Etimago

when you gonna learn mon ami..

:needpics:
:middlefinger:

CASTREX
03-16-2007, 05:28 PM
Firstly, you guys are gonna scream,

:eek: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW! :eek:

Go for it dude! :bow:

CASTREX
03-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Too lazy to look for it...

What's the weight dif between a Yar ans a Celica GTS?

What times does a stock celica?? 1/4 mile , 0-60mph???

Dragonacc
03-16-2007, 05:53 PM
Off the top of my head I would say there is about a 500 lbs difference. A Celica is a 14 second car in the 1/4 stock I believe and I don't know about 0-60.

With a 2zz and the proper suspension setup you could probably hit 13s in the Yaris.

Kitt
03-16-2007, 07:16 PM
Dood: i can only say "may the force be with you"

mikeukrainetz
03-16-2007, 10:14 PM
the toyota matrix had a year or two with awd and 2zz, a cheaper alternative to importing parts; good luck trying to find one. only found one wrecked and it went for 9k.

ChinoCharles
03-16-2007, 11:26 PM
There is only one thing left to do Thomas.

Buy the cup car and race.

You know you want to.

You'll come back the guru of the 1NZ.

You are the chosen one.

You must go and return to us at once!

eTiMaGo
03-17-2007, 01:44 AM
erm not really, as the one-make-race cars are of equal specification and no engine tuning of any sort is allowed, so it's all about driver skill :biggrin:

I can probably wait another year to join the races... I need MORE POWAR!

ChinoCharles
03-17-2007, 01:50 AM
You'll still learn a lot about the car. The skill will come.

Then again, a 2ZZ sounds nice.

eTiMaGo
03-17-2007, 03:36 AM
But an AWD 250HP+ Yaris? I could go rallying with it, and that's a childhood dream of mine... I grew up in a mountainous area with frequent rallies... and in those days they used badass cars like the renault 5 turbo or peugeot 205 turbo 16... left a lasting impression :biggrin:

Razr
03-17-2007, 05:27 AM
So, seeing as I unfortunately don't have enough money trees in the back yard, I have to choose... Join the one-make races, or create the absolutely craziest most powerful Yaris in the world? It could kick ass at drag races... Decisions decisions...


Think of the fame. Think of the neck snapping acceration. Think of the vaginas!

Easy decision. Go the 400BHP.

Then go wipe your ass with a one-make-race Yaris.

tca4
03-17-2007, 05:39 AM
Did someone mention that the arto kit is only avaliable in Thailand? i wish they can ship it over here

eTiMaGo
03-17-2007, 05:51 AM
Think of the vaginas!

<borat>This car, it have pussy magnet?</borat>

:biggrin::laugh:

Razr
03-17-2007, 05:54 AM
<borat>All girls in my village give pussy to the Yaris</borat>

:thumbsup:

jdubau55
03-17-2007, 01:12 PM
Think of the vaginas!


My simple mind is stuck on this and can't proceed.

Katana
03-21-2007, 05:52 PM
You rock Thomas!