2013 Yaris

[frog13]

Just curious.I was on the Toyota lot the other day and saw a 2013 Yaris( My daughter has a 2010) and noticed this Yaris' interior was completely different than my daughters car?. The odometer was on the driverside instead of center mounted,no more dash mounted "cubby/glove box(s)" driver and passenger side....gone!.Are all the new Yaris' this way?. They didn't screw up the engine too,did they?.

[nookandcrannycar]

Just curious.I was on the Toyota lot the other day and saw a 2013 Yaris( My daughter has a 2010) and noticed this Yaris' interior was completely different than my daughters car?. The odometer was on the driverside instead of center mounted,no more dash mounted "cubby/glove box(s)" driver and passenger side....gone!.Are all the new Yaris' this way?. They didn't screw up the engine too,did they?.

Yes, all the 3rd Generation Yaris/Vitz (2010 and later in some parts of the world and 2012 and later in the U.S.) models have 'in front of the driver' instrumentation and fewer dash compartments. I prefer the '2007-2011' dash and instrumentation, but the current setup is growing on me. I can't say the same for the seats. I don't like the two tone seats and especially don't like that you can't get seats that are completely dark (and thus are less apt to become dingy/show dirt). The seats on the SE are a bit better.

Re the engine, they didn't screw it up. It is the same engine.

[frog13]

Nice quick reply!....thanks.I'm also not liking the mono-wiper deal!...Oh,well,there's other makes out there.

[nookandcrannycar]

Nice quick reply!....thanks.I'm also not liking the mono-wiper deal!...Oh,well,there's other makes out there.

Yeah, I was skeptical initially re the mono wiper, but Yarisworld member Absolutely Red 12 has written that the mono wiper on his Yaris does a fine job of clearing his windshield even in pretty heavy rain......and I don't think he'd write that unless it was clearly the case.

[UberSilver]

Ya, they screwed up(IMO). I dont see the new body style looking as nice 10 years down the road. The 2 gen looks good and will age well.

[nookandcrannycar]

Ya, they screwed up(IMO). I dont see the new body style looking as nice 10 years down the road. The 2 gen looks good and will age well.

I agree re the 3rd Gen styling (not as good as 2nd Gen), but he was referring to the engine and I was just letting him know that Toyota (at least for the U.S.A.) hasn't changed the engine.

[Absolutely Red 12]

Nice quick reply!....thanks.I'm also not liking the mono-wiper deal!...Oh,well,there's other makes out there.

I got to tell you the mono front wiper works very well! (Lambos also have mono wipers!!)

It's the rear wiper that hasnt changed, and still blows!

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ See, frog13, Absolutely Red 12 definitely does think the mono windshield wiper does work well. I haven't tested the rear wiper in a '12 or '13 while sitting in one (I haven't driven one), but I trust your judgement AR 12. Wasn't there a past thread about a current or future better performing aftermarket wiper setup for the rear?....Or perhaps I am just thinking about people bemoaning the stock rear wiper setup :biggrin:.

[matti]

I have the 2012 and I think the mono wiper works great. The rear wiper isn't the best, but it's not a big deal (IMO).

[daf62757]

Is it just my Yaris, but does all of yours not completely wipe on the rear? I don't know if the wiper has enough tension on the glass to completely clean and wipe the complete length and of the blade.

[mr_miles]

At first I didn't like them, but I kept looking at pictures to see if anything changed, and then slowly it started growing on me, it has more of a "sporty" feel to it. feels slightly less bubbly and factory made. While the lack of cubby space is rather lame, they did include two trays at the top of the glove box to set things, which are.....ok i guess. The Mono wiper is much better one large and one and the tiny one the second gen had. No more wiper line on the drivers side! it also covers MUCH more of the windshield, and doesn't leave the occasional water splash when the wiper goes to it's natural position, like the second gen could in some rain.

[tooter]

We've been getting some rain here... and I think the "cyclops" wiper works great. :thumbsup: It has a parrallelogram arm that alters the wipers aspect while in its arc and quite effectively clears the windshield.

It sure has a big ass rubber blade on it! :laugh:

[Absolutely Red 12]

We've been getting some rain here... and I think the "cyclops" wiper works great. :thumbsup: It has a parrallelogram arm that alters the wipers aspect while in its arc and quite effectively clears the windshield.

It sure has a big ass rubber blade on it! :laugh:

^^^ This!:thumbup:

[bronsin]

My local dealers have almost no 2013 Yaris's for sale.

Does anyone know why that is?

[matti]

If I understand correctly, the Yaris is not a big seller by any stretch. That might be why they don't have many on the lot? The dealers in my city usually only have 1-2 new Yaris on the lot at any time (as opposed to 15 or so Corollas).

[nookandcrannycar]

Is it just my Yaris, but does all of yours not completely wipe on the rear? I don't know if the wiper has enough tension on the glass to completely clean and wipe the complete length and of the blade.

My rear wiper has enough tension and thoroughly wipes the area it was designed to wipe. I've only replaced that blade once. The area it was designed to wipe doesn't encompass as high a percentage of the rear widow area as in some cars I've owned, but it clears it well enough for me not to look at it as a safety issue.

[nookandcrannycar]

At first I didn't like them, but I kept looking at pictures to see if anything changed, and then slowly it started growing on me, it has more of a "sporty" feel to it. feels slightly less bubbly and factory made. While the lack of cubby space is rather lame, they did include two trays at the top of the glove box to set things, which are.....ok i guess. The Mono wiper is much better one large and one and the tiny one the second gen had. No more wiper line on the drivers side! it also covers MUCH more of the windshield, and doesn't leave the occasional water splash when the wiper goes to it's natural position, like the second gen could in some rain.

I just wish they could have left the dash the same and had offered a dark, solid colored seat. The latter could be corrected by an aftermarket seat, but I believe some airbag functionality would be lost.

[nookandcrannycar]

We've been getting some rain here... and I think the "cyclops" wiper works great. :thumbsup: It has a parrallelogram arm that alters the wipers aspect while in its arc and quite effectively clears the windshield.

It sure has a big ass rubber blade on it! :laugh:

:thumbsup: Good to know that you and Matti and Mr. Miles feel the same way Absolutely Red 12 does about the mono wiper (liking it/feeling that it does a good job of clearing rain from the windshield). I wonder, is that 'big ass rubber blade' :biggrin: (great description) only available at Toyota dealers, or has a cheaper aftermarket version emerged?

[nookandcrannycar]

My local dealers have almost no 2013 Yaris's for sale.

Does anyone know why that is?

Remember your thread about going to the dealer in Mt. Laurel? I remember you mentioning that the Yari they had all had lots of equipment on them. This intrigued me, and I had a hunch that I felt was borne out at the time, but I don't know if it is still the case as I haven't looked at the Yaris inventory for my area since sometime during the 2012 model year. My thought, right after you started that thread, was that the reason the dealer you visited might have only heavily equipped Yari was that the total inventory of that dealership was probably pretty small, so that they needed to make more profit per car than a 'stripped' Yaris would allow to achieve the desired new car 'slice' of their profit.

After reading (at the time you wrote it) your start to that thread, I began looking at the new car inventory on the websites of all the dealers within a 30 mile radius (or it might have been 50 miles or so) and the total inventory of each was pretty low. The dealer in Mt. Laurel was at 200 something and some of the dealerships has an even lower inventory than that. I only found one dealer that had a new car inventory of over 1,000 (but still under 1100), and that was in the Center City part of Philadelphia.

I then looked at the new car inventory (online) of my two closest dealerships (which had a fair number of Yari and most of those weren't loaded with options). The closest dealer to me (over in the next county but still a bit closer than the one in my county) is Fred Haas Toyota World (the #1 Tundra dealer in the world) and at the time they had almost 3500 new vehicles. I then looked at the second closest dealer, Gullo Toyota, and at the time they had about 2500 new vehicles.

Around the same time (if I remember correctly) there was another thread about how hard it was to find 5 speed Yari. I looked at all of the Toyota dealers North of I-10 in the Houston metro and even beyond that and (if I remember correctly) the smallest number of 5 speed Yari any of those dealership had was 3 and the most was 15 or 17. I don't think I checked the total inventory of those dealerships, but I imagine many of them have larger inventories than the Center City Philadelphia dealership.

[bronsin]

We motorcyclists do a thing called "fly and ride" where search the country for the bike we want fly out and ride it back. These are used motorcycles.

Maybe its coming to that with the Yaris?

[nookandcrannycar]

We motorcyclists do a thing called "fly and ride" where search the country for the bike we want fly out and ride it back. These are used motorcycles.

Maybe its coming to that with the Yaris?

At one point before the 3rd Generation came out (which I feared would have too many changes I wouldn't like) I thought about doing a 'fly and drive'. This was because I didn't want to give up the Cold Weather Package when purchasing a newer (and also new) Yaris. At the time, Gulf States Toyota (the Toyota distributor for much or all of the U.S. South) wouldn't allow customers to order the Cold Weather Package. I purchased my Yaris new in RI and it had been sent by the factory to another dealership (owned by the same company) in CT, so my car (and I think the few 5-speeds I found in the Northeast) all had the Cold Weather Package.

[nookandcrannycar]

We motorcyclists do a thing called "fly and ride" where search the country for the bike we want fly out and ride it back. These are used motorcycles.

Maybe its coming to that with the Yaris?

For You :biggrin:. You are a person (based on your posts) with a Texas mindset when it comes to how you feel about value for your dollar, but you are living in a state that is just the opposite (except when it comes to gas prices) :biggrin:.

[narly charley]

We motorcyclists do a thing called "fly and ride" where search the country for the bike we want fly out and ride it back. These are used motorcycles.

Maybe its coming to that with the Yaris?

It seems that way. I have mine for sale, at a decent price, and almost no bites...

[nookandcrannycar]

It seems that way. I have mine for sale, at a decent price, and almost no bites...

I also read SKurj's post about neither the Scion nor the Subaru dealer wanting a manual transmission Yaris. Left me SMH. I don't understand the dearth of demand re cars with a manual transmission. Do new drivers thing learning is too much of a bother? Sitting in traffic with a manual is slightly irritating, but not enough of a reason in my book to get an automatic.

[edmscan]

If I had a choice .. I would get an automatic as almost 100% of my driving is in the city (stop and go traffic). I have a standard .. but I would rather have an automatic, even though I have driven a standard for over 35 years. I understand how you guys feel .. but I think that the vast majority of people given a choice would take an automatic over a standard.

[nookandcrannycar]

If I had a choice .. I would get an automatic as almost 100% of my driving is in the city (stop and go traffic). I have a standard .. but I would rather have an automatic, even though I have driven a standard for over 35 years. I understand how you guys feel .. but I think that the vast majority of people given a choice would take an automatic over a standard.

Perhaps I would feel differently if I lived in your climate and did exclusively city driving. I also feel that a manual transmission gives you more control and I don't want to give up that control.....and it is for all practical purposes impossible to compression start an automatic if need be.

[bronsin]

For You :biggrin:. You are a person (based on your posts) with a Texas mindset when it comes to how you feel about value for your dollar, but you are living in a state that is just the opposite (except when it comes to gas prices) :biggrin:.


Lifes too short not to GET WHAT YOU WANT! :headbang:

[matti]

If I recall correctly, only about 7% of new cars sold today in the U.S. are manuals (forgot where I read this, though). I have a manual and love it, but the demand for them, as a rule, just isn't there.

[matti]

I did just find this article that said demand for manuals is rising a bit:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/04/stick-shift-manual-transmission-ford-focus-surprise-more-interest-------/1#.URo_amdECs0

[narly charley]

I've always driven vehicles with a standard transmission and glad that I have. I think that you should have to take your driving test in a vehicle with a standard trans.

[nookandcrannycar]

Lifes too short not to GET WHAT YOU WANT! :headbang:

I agree! And NO citizens should have to suffer under nanny state policies that hinder this (nor be protected from the consequences of their choices).

[nookandcrannycar]

I did just find this article that said demand for manuals is rising a bit:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2012/04/stick-shift-manual-transmission-ford-focus-surprise-more-interest-------/1#.URo_amdECs0

Great article, quite encouraging! I especially like the note that it is expected that half of the 20% of new Dart buyers who pick a manual will do so because they "believe a manual is the best way to enjoy the European underpinnings of the Dart".

[why?]

honestly, if i had to commute every day in any type of traffic i would want an automatic. An hour of commuting and my left leg starts cramping up.

I agree a manual is more fun, but commuting makes people suicidal to begin with.