Belta/yaris sedan, side mirror/ audio not working,please help

[kashanf]

hello friends, iam from Pakistan,
I have Toyota Belta 2006.. few days ago my both side mirrors got stolen.. so for few days i was using car without the mirrors..suddenly i noticed that my JDM audio player was not powering on..but i ignored as i dont use the audio so much.... yesterday i got the new pair of side mirrors..but when i connected them,none of the function working. I got through the manual and found that there is a fuse 7.5A which is controlling Audio/Power Mirrors etc.. but i checked the fuse also..its intact..not blown..

so please wiring experts..suggest me if there is some thing which i can do.. Thanks

[CTScott]

The 7.5A ACC fuse is the most likely cause, but if that is definitely OK, then also check the 15A AM2 fuse and the 25A AM1 fuse.

[kashanf]

Thanks for the reply..i will check in the morning about more fuses which u suggested..but i would like to tell u that my power locks,interios lights, power windows..every thing is working perfect.. and I can find only one fuse box which is under the hood..iam attaching the picture (its not my car's,but i have same like this ) ..can you please tell me which fuses i need to check..
i will be thankful to u ..
thanks

[CTScott]

There are two fuse panels. That one and a second, which is under the bottom of the dash board. AM1 and ACC are in the under dash one and AM2 is in the under hood one.

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[kashanf]

OHH.. i could'nt find the under dash fuse box..i will check again.. can u tell me the exact location of under dash fuse box?..and i hope Yaris sedan and belta is same..i mean the locations are same for fuse box..

[CTScott]

OHH.. i could'nt find the under dash fuse box..i will check again.. can u tell me the exact location of under dash fuse box?..and i hope Yaris sedan and belta is same..i mean the locations are same for fuse box..

It is under the bottom of the dash, above the driver's left foot on left hand drive cars, and I think it may be above the driver's right foot on right hand drive cars.

[ciscobear]

Hey guys, the belta fuse box is under the black panel under the glove box.

[kashanf]

Thanks guys and sorry for late reply..i was busy so just checked the fuse today ..and yes its under the glove box..thanks.. i solved my problem..7.5 ACC was blown which i replaced..

now one more suggestion required..i have installed after market side mirrors..not OEM..everything is working fine..but LEFT/RIGHT direction adjustment is working inversely..like if i press left adjustment button,it goes right and vice versa.. this case is with both the mirrors..what do u guys think is the reason?..

[CTScott]

Thanks guys and sorry for late reply..i was busy so just checked the fuse today ..and yes its under the glove box..thanks.. i solved my problem..7.5 ACC was blown which i replaced..

now one more suggestion required..i have installed after market side mirrors..not OEM..everything is working fine..but LEFT/RIGHT direction adjustment is working inversely..like if i press left adjustment button,it goes right and vice versa.. this case is with both the mirrors..what do u guys think is the reason?..

The motors are likely wired backwards for left/right movement. Does up/down work correctly?

[kashanf]

yes up/down working correctly..

[CTScott]

yes up/down working correctly..

OK. The two motors have one leg tied together within the mirror (only three wires go into the mirror (up/down+, right/left+, and common-). So, to reverse the left/right motor you would have to take the mirror apart and reverse the two motor leads before the point where they combine from 4 to 3 wires to exit to the door.

[kashanf]

yes there are three wires (up/down+, right/left+, and common-), so to reverse the left right thing, i need to reverse the conection inside the mirror?.. how do i access the connections?. i will apreaciate your thorough details for the process..

[CTScott]

yes there are three wires (up/down+, right/left+, and common-), so to reverse the left right thing, i need to reverse the conection inside the mirror?.. how do i access the connections?. i will apreaciate your thorough details for the process..

You would need to completely disassemble the mirror to get at the motor assembly. You tilt the mirror up, and then pull straight out on the bottom of the mirror glass to unhook it. Then, you can lift the glass off.

Once that is off you will have access to the motor assembly. There are four wires that come out of a single point on the motor. You would then need to determine which two are for the horizontal motion and which two are for vertical.

The easiest way to do so would be to simply snip one of the two non joined wires to determine which is the horizontal and which vertical. You would then need to do the same for the two joined wires. Once you determine which two are horizontal, you simply reconnect all four wires, but reverse the two horizontal ones.

[kashanf]

ok i will try this tomorrow .. they also make crackling sound when the movement reaches its limit..i think the OEM motor stops automatically when the movement reaches the limit..but this after market ones do make crackling sound .. like if the glass is on its up most position and i again press the Up button then it makes crackling sound..motor still tries to move the mirror upwards:P

[kashanf]

OEM is after all OEM..none of the after market can take place of OEM parts..

[kashanf]

Hey is there any difference in RHD and LHD side mirrors?..is this could be the reason that my car is RHD and iam using LHD version of mirror?

[CTScott]

The EPC doesn't show different part number for LHD versus RHD, so it is probably just an assembly error by the aftermarket company. The crackling sound is the plastic gears skipping, so you really don't want to let it get to that point, or you will eventually damage the gears.

[kashanf]

@ CTScott..brother i really appreciate your quick responses.. thanks..i will try reversing the motor connection as u suggested..and for the crackling sound, i will not press the button beyond the limit.. Thanks:)

[kashanf]

there is one 2-Pin connector in the both the front door panels which is not connected to anything.. wire color is i think green and white.. what is that connection for? it is just near to the mirror connector.. i doubt it is for heated glasses?..correct me if iam wrong

[ciscobear]

I've seen those two wires as well. I suspect they are for our optional mirror indicator upgrades. Will post a pic later.

[kashanf]

I've seen those two wires as well. I suspect they are for our optional mirror indicator upgrades. Will post a pic later.

i tried connecting indicators to that wire..but they are not working so i decided to make side mirror indicator connection to the side fender indicators..that 2-pin is for something else..may be some expert can tell us what are they for..

[CTScott]

The extra wires are probably for the power folding mirrors, which are an option on Japanese Yaris.

[kashanf]

no thats not for folding..my belta comes with 5wire connector (auto folding).. this 2-pin is separate connector

[CTScott]

no thats not for folding..my belta comes with 5wire connector (auto folding).. this 2-pin is separate connector

OK. If it is not the attached one, then it probably is the one for the turn signals. With some of the wiring like that, the harness is in the door, but the connection between the kick panel junction connector and the fuse panel is not there.

[ciscobear]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7161/6686877319_be3e5ed233_z.jpg

[kashanf]

this is the same connector i also have in my belta door panel.. did you find any information about these two wires?..i need to connect my Mirror Led indicators.. iam thinking to wire them to the fender indicators .. i wish this connector can be use for led indicator..if you found any information then let me know:)