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imike929
02-23-2013, 12:48 AM
Hey guys, I just realized after having my '13 SE for a couple months now that the doors do not lock after you start the car and drive off. I know in almost all new models, including my gf's 2011 corolla, the doors lock after a few seconds of driving. So basically you;re driving around all day with unlocked doors unless you consciously press the button to lock before driving off. Anyone else see a problem here?:iono:

Scubaru Steve
02-23-2013, 01:06 AM
I don't have that feature, no do i want it.
Mind you the only crimes we have here are the Saskatchewan seal hunt

imike929
02-23-2013, 01:10 AM
It's just kind of weird and inconvienent I guess

nookandcrannycar
02-23-2013, 03:07 AM
I don't have that feature, no do i want it.
Mind you the only crimes we have here are the Saskatchewan seal hunt

:biggrin:

CTScott
02-23-2013, 08:31 AM
Looking at the service manual, that is not even a "customizable parameter", so the Yaris does not do that. For example the operation of pressing the unlock button once to unlock all doors, or once to unlock the driver's and a second time to unlock the other doors is a customizable parameter.

I have noticed quite a few differences between the keyless entry options on the Yaris versus my 2011 Tacoma.

TOUGEghost
02-23-2013, 09:54 AM
I have another car with the auto locking feature and it's the most annoying thing ever. My key gets locked in the car a lot. I am perfectly fine with locking the doors myself; I don't need the car to do it for me.

mr_miles
02-23-2013, 08:32 PM
I never understood auto locking doors. I don't understand the point of locking yourself IN the car? You're in a CAR. If someone is going to try and get in it, run them over.

matti
02-23-2013, 08:51 PM
I've never had a car with that feature, but I don't think I'd like it.

Yaris_Ken
03-19-2013, 02:23 PM
Hey guys, I just realized after having my '13 SE for a couple months now that the doors do not lock after you start the car and drive off. I know in almost all new models, including my gf's 2011 corolla, the doors lock after a few seconds of driving. So basically you;re driving around all day with unlocked doors unless you consciously press the button to lock before driving off. Anyone else see a problem here?:iono:

This was my question exactly that I was going to ask!

We have little dogs that like to put their feet on the doors when they travel in the back seat. My wife is paranoid that they will somehow work the door handle and get it open (lol) - so to humour her I told her the doors lock when going from Park to Drive (automatic of course) - but then I listened for it recently and it doesn't do it like I thought - my 05 Corolla (RIP) had this feature and I never thought of it not being a part of a much newer Toyota.

So I'll have to remember to hit that little switch from now on :(

Stop de-featuring cars Toyota! I'm sure it is a minor firmware update that would enable this latent feature in all Toyota models with PDL and automatic trannies.

Foot
03-19-2013, 06:31 PM
Most cars that have four doors have a child lock for the back. This would save little muffins from opening the back doors and jumping for his freedom.
Two side notes, one you will have to open the door for anyone in the back seat. Two, little muffins should be properly fastened up in case of a crash and he does not fly out the wind shield like underdog.

screenprintr
03-19-2013, 06:33 PM
Have you seen Toyota's 3 wheeler? Looks almost like the Yaris.

nookandcrannycar
03-19-2013, 09:21 PM
I never understood auto locking doors. I don't understand the point of locking yourself IN the car? You're in a CAR. If someone is going to try and get in it, run them over.

I'm guessing you've never lived in California. Pedestrians have more rights there than in many other states, and (I feel) it is a sue happy culture. Having lived most of my life in California (and assuming your comment is serious, rather than just hyperbole), the fact that someone would sue me to try to get my money would always be paramount in my mind, so I would never utilize your solution. The most dangerous people in the world CAN BE (not necessarily are, but can be) the people who have absolutely nothing and the people who have everything, because the former have nothing to lose and the latter can afford to lose almost anything. IIRC, California has a Castle Doctrine, but it is limited because you have to prove that the force you used on your own property was reasonable or necessary. I've heard people in Texas refer to this as 'The California Apology'.

I've driven in quite bad parts of Oakland, CA - Memphis, TN - Detroit, MI - Los Angeles, CA - San Francisco, CA - Camden, NJ - Las Vegas, NV - Mobile, AL - New Orleans, LA - San Diego, CA - NYC - and Albuquerque, NM...and I can't imagine doing so without having my doors locked. I consider the national average of 100 for total crime (see the stats from Onboard Informatics in the city (zip code) profiles on move.com) to be pretty safe. Where my cousin and his wife and kids live in the SF Bay Area fluctuates between 100 and 105 and I would feel safe walking their dog in their neighborhood at any time of the day or night. Where I grew up, the total crime index is now in the low 20s. Where my Aunt and Uncle live it is in the teens. Where my cousin and little cousin who inspired my Yarisworld name live, the total crime index is in the high 30s. Where I live, it fluctuates from the 40s to low 50s...YET there was a carjacking recently at a school that is fairly close by (which freaks me out). I wouldn't want auto locking car doors (too Orwellian to suit me), BUT I should probably lock my car doors MORE often while I'm driving.

joshthorsc
03-20-2013, 05:37 AM
My wife's '05 Sienna has the auto lock feature and so does my dad's '12 corolla. My '13 tundra only locks when you hit 15mph otherwise it will never auto lock. My Yaris SE, well, I just have to remember to lock it although it'll be nice to have the auto lock feature.

nookandcrannycar
03-20-2013, 07:13 PM
My wife's '05 Sienna has the auto lock feature and so does my dad's '12 corolla. My '13 tundra only locks when you hit 15mph otherwise it will never auto lock. My Yaris SE, well, I just have to remember to lock it although it'll be nice to have the auto lock feature.

:thumbsup: Great feature (15 mph auto lock) on your new Tundra!

DebbyM46227
03-21-2013, 09:19 AM
I just don't see the big deal about having auto locks. Geez, it's not that hard to flip that lock manually, you can even reach over and do the passenger side, which I always keep locked anyway.

Scubaru Steve
03-21-2013, 12:00 PM
:thumbsup: Great feature (15 mph auto lock) on your new Tundra!

how are you supposed to tuck and roll on a moments notice?

tooter
03-23-2013, 11:59 AM
I never understood auto locking doors. I don't understand the point of locking yourself IN the car? You're in a CAR. If someone is going to try and get in it, run them over.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

That is so true!

I'm so glad just to have simple reliable "dumb key" entry and no automatic locking because it's one less thing that can go wrong. :thumbsup:

why?
03-27-2013, 12:01 AM
i don't get how this matters. Just keep the doors locked at all times. I open the door, get in, lock the door. Not hard.

I'd prefer to have a fully automatic shotgun to ward off criminals. That would make a bit of a mess of my car though.

nookandcrannycar
03-27-2013, 07:56 PM
i don't get how this matters. Just keep the doors locked at all times. I open the door, get in, lock the door. Not hard.

I'd prefer to have a fully automatic shotgun to ward off criminals. That would make a bit of a mess of my car though.

For those of us who don't have a family, I see your point....but I think if (for example) a parent is doing errands with 2 kids in a Yaris Sedan or 5-door liftback I can see the advantage.

Anakha56
04-12-2013, 09:37 PM
Hi There,

So I am new to this site and found my via Google while hunting to see if Toyota has an official bolt-on turbo for the 2012 Yaris. Anywho onto the question in this thread...

I was told by the Sales Rep as were other Toyota buyers that Toyota had a lawsuit in Europe over the auto lock feature (details are fuzzy even Google seems not to know) that they lost and made the decision from a safety aspect to remove the feature. The Toyota Hilux double cab being made this year even has this feature missing.

/Will be making a thread about my Yaris 2012/13 issue shortly which I am hoping someone will be able to help... :)

NYC-SE
04-28-2014, 01:40 AM
Hey guys, I just realized after having my '13 SE for a couple months now that the doors do not lock after you start the car and drive off. I know in almost all new models, including my gf's 2011 corolla, the doors lock after a few seconds of driving. So basically you;re driving around all day with unlocked doors unless you consciously press the button to lock before driving off. Anyone else see a problem here?:iono:

I just bought a new 2014 SE and this was one of the first things that I noticed after driving off. It seems that almost all newer cars have this feature and I find it surprising that the Yaris doesn't. I'm with you imike929, I'm used to self-locking doors from my previous cars and now I have to make a conscious effort to remember to lock the doors manually. Wish there was a way to implement this feature on our Yaris but if CTScott says it can't be done then I'm sure it can't be done.

nookandcrannycar
04-28-2014, 02:42 AM
if CTScott says it can't be done then I'm sure it can't be done.

I disagree with you re finding this a desirable feature, but I agree with the statement above.

mr_miles
04-28-2014, 03:20 AM
I'm guessing you've never lived in California. Pedestrians have more rights there than in many other states, and (I feel) it is a sue happy culture. Having lived most of my life in California (and assuming your comment is serious, rather than just hyperbole), the fact that someone would sue me to try to get my money would always be paramount in my mind, so I would never utilize your solution. The most dangerous people in the world CAN BE (not necessarily are, but can be) the people who have absolutely nothing and the people who have everything, because the former have nothing to lose and the latter can afford to lose almost anything. IIRC, California has a Castle Doctrine, but it is limited because you have to prove that the force you used on your own property was reasonable or necessary. I've heard people in Texas refer to this as 'The California Apology'.

I've driven in quite bad parts of Oakland, CA - Memphis, TN - Detroit, MI - Los Angeles, CA - San Francisco, CA - Camden, NJ - Las Vegas, NV - Mobile, AL - New Orleans, LA - San Diego, CA - NYC - and Albuquerque, NM...and I can't imagine doing so without having my doors locked. I consider the national average of 100 for total crime (see the stats from Onboard Informatics in the city (zip code) profiles on move.com) to be pretty safe. Where my cousin and his wife and kids live in the SF Bay Area fluctuates between 100 and 105 and I would feel safe walking their dog in their neighborhood at any time of the day or night. Where I grew up, the total crime index is now in the low 20s. Where my Aunt and Uncle live it is in the teens. Where my cousin and little cousin who inspired my Yarisworld name live, the total crime index is in the high 30s. Where I live, it fluctuates from the 40s to low 50s...YET there was a carjacking recently at a school that is fairly close by (which freaks me out). I wouldn't want auto locking car doors (too Orwellian to suit me), BUT I should probably lock my car doors MORE often while I'm driving.



year later response~ I'm from SoCal. the way I've always seen it, if you're willing to try and steal a moving car, or a stopped one that's running (such as mine while I am in it), you are taking the risk of getting your ass ran over. Regardless of me possibly getting arrested ;p this also applies to people attempting to take my said belongings if I am in said car. Cars are dangerous, and should be seen as such. Pedestrians should take more care in my opinion. This includes me when I am one also :)

I do understand the idea of auto locks....but at the same time....the real purpose eludes me. I do however,quite like how my 2013 will not let me lock the doors if the car is off and the key is in the ignition. Now that's a smart feature. lol.

jcboy
04-28-2014, 10:57 AM
If you are really, really want that feature (and did i say really?), any aftermarket alarm has that feature (of course, if you have central locks on all four doors). Yes, this voids the electrical warranty in some countries like ours, but at least you scratched that itch.

nookandcrannycar
04-29-2014, 10:28 PM
year later response~ I'm from SoCal. the way I've always seen it, if you're willing to try and steal a moving car, or a stopped one that's running (such as mine while I am in it), you are taking the risk of getting your ass ran over. Regardless of me possibly getting arrested ;p this also applies to people attempting to take my said belongings if I am in said car. Cars are dangerous, and should be seen as such. Pedestrians should take more care in my opinion. This includes me when I am one also :)

I do understand the idea of auto locks....but at the same time....the real purpose eludes me. I do however,quite like how my 2013 will not let me lock the doors if the car is off and the key is in the ignition. Now that's a smart feature. lol.

I agree with you wholeheartedly re pedestrians taking more care, and re the feature on your 2013 re can't lock the door with the key in the ignition. Given what I've read re your metro area (CC v no CC, OC vs no OC, OC allowed if firearm isn't loaded, different laws for different cities, getting (in practice) Portland Police to always align policy/action with what the law actually is, etc......all too cumbersome, IMO), I might have the same approach you do. Given that I don't live there, I'd either give up the car and belongings (easily replaced...my life isn't) or (if I knew in advance I could legally do so and legally implement) I'd carry and make the lightning fast decision to so implement or not.