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Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 01:32 AM
man, these things are nasty! friggin' thick and powder-ie! anyone know how to make these taste better?
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 01:32 AM
oh, i'm taking Muscle-Tech, Mass-Tech strawberry flavored (doesn't taste like it to me).
static808
03-18-2007, 01:45 AM
yeah, their "flavors" are actually their colors. you know, strawberry is pink, chocolate is beige, and vanilla is off-white. but they're really all one flavor: ASS. actually, saying that would be disrespectful to ASS, so its actually worse than ass. i'd say it tastes like shit, but i actually havent tasted shit yet... theres a first for everything...
--B
Typer73
03-18-2007, 02:12 AM
Add ice cream & blend, with milk to thin it? Might work.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 02:50 AM
yeah, their "flavors" are actually their colors. you know, strawberry is pink, chocolate is beige, and vanilla is off-white. but they're really all one flavor: ASS. actually, saying that would be disrespectful to ASS, so its actually worse than ass. i'd say it tastes like shit, but i actually havent tasted shit yet... theres a first for everything...
--B
lol...:laugh:
man, the first time i tried this stuff was like a year ago with the vanilla flavor. to win the bet i had with my friend, i drank 3 servings a day, one in the morning, in the afternoon, and at night. it actually worked, but i seriously felt like throwing up!
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 02:51 AM
Add ice cream & blend, with milk to thin it? Might work.
i'm using soy milk right now, still pretty thick. i think i might invest in a blender because this Mass-Tech doesn't really dissolve in a shaker cup.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 02:52 AM
i feel like throwing up, i just did some weight lifting, sit ups and crunches in sets if 10, 20, 30, 20, 10, and 16 calories lost in jump rope...
hasher22
03-18-2007, 03:02 AM
i have tried banana and that tasted like poo!!! and i love banana flavours....
i have strawberry-banana flavour till in the pantry...it taste great but i cant be bothered drinking it daily....try that flavour...
and if u wanna gain a bit of weight, get the weight gainer with the MOST calorie content
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:01 AM
i think the three flavors, chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry all have the same amount of calories...
RogueYaris
03-18-2007, 04:57 AM
The main question would be: Why are you trying to gain weight?
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 05:13 AM
The main question would be: Why are you trying to gain weight?
i have a small frame, on the skinny side, and would like to be a little bigger (not fat or muscular, just toned not not skinny.
brickhardmeat
03-18-2007, 06:09 AM
I would suggest you switch to something like Optimum Nutrion Whey Protein. The flavor is fine to me. I have been on the vanilla for years. If you want to gain weight throw in some peanut butter (natural kind) maybe a bananna, some honey, milk, eat your eggs, take in a little extra throughout the day, eat healthy snacks, don't get carried away but keep your calories up. eat at least 5-6 times a day. Minimize the cardio and maximize the lifting for your muscle mass. You don't want to gain fat. You should be getting your body weight in grams of protein if you are really wanting progress. So add up the protein in your meats, eggs, etc and your powder and it should total your body weight in grams. You may want to look into some supplements like creatine and glutimine. These are the basics and I am very please with the results of both. Take your multi vitamins and pick up an issue of Muscle Fitness.:thumbup:
By the way I mix my protein with water, I was going through 4 cartons of Soy Milk a week. You get used to the water.
brickhardmeat
03-18-2007, 06:13 AM
:thumbsup: http://www.t-nation.com/
hasher22
03-18-2007, 06:47 AM
i think the three flavors, chocolate, vanilla, and strawberry all have the same amount of calories...
yea it can have the same amount of calories if they are the same brand....different brands have different calorie intake per serve........get something thats like 600cal per serving and drink that 3 times a day....
eTiMaGo
03-18-2007, 08:27 AM
I hate you all.. I need some weight loss powder :biggrin:
Black Yaris
03-18-2007, 08:32 AM
I hate you all.. I need some weight loss powder :biggrin:
They call that cocaine
SailDesign
03-18-2007, 09:48 AM
I have a weight loss machine in the garage - it's called a mountain bike. Great fun, and very effective if used regularly - which i don't. :smile:
eTiMaGo
03-18-2007, 09:50 AM
I have a weight loss machine in the garage - it's called a mountain bike. Great fun, and very effective if used regularly - which i don't. :smile:
I have one too, but I hate riding it, hurts my ass too much. And yes, before anyone makes a smart comment, there is a saddle attached :biggrin:
Trying to watch my diet and go to the gym regularly, it's working little by little :smile:
eTiMaGo
03-18-2007, 09:51 AM
They call that cocaine
Hmmm maybe I should try that... I'll go to the GNC shop and ask if they have any? :biggrin:
elsteverino889
03-18-2007, 12:09 PM
Milk and ice cream and yes those things are nasty, during my football days i tried taking it once but i couldnt they are really nasty and now im 6'0 225 lbs and i can bench over my weight so im doing pretty good
Dragonacc
03-18-2007, 01:02 PM
How old are you?
I was in the same boat when I was in High School/beginning of college. I used weight gainers, but when I started slacking off eventually... Weight gain sucks when it's fat.
There aren't any shortcuts in life that don't have consequences.
(I'm finally on the track back to being thin again.)
brickhardmeat
03-18-2007, 02:50 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't recomend any weight gainers. Stick to plain old whey protein. Work out hard and eat your calories don't drink them. The protein powder is just an easy way to get the amount of protein your body truly needs to gain solid muscle. Fats and empty calories won't make you have solid gains, you'll just get fat. You just need protein and hard work and you will progress. Weight "gainers" are crap in my opinion.
RogueYaris
03-18-2007, 03:05 PM
It's more about what you do than what you eat. Increase your calorie intake a bit and workout a lot more. When you're working out all the time and you feel hungry, eat.
Dragonacc
03-18-2007, 03:11 PM
Don't forget, never stop working out once you start. You'll get fat. :laugh:
brickhardmeat
03-18-2007, 04:21 PM
It has to be a life commitment. You can't ever expect to get huge and then stop working out and stay that way. It is a life commitment.:headbang:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:21 PM
I would suggest you switch to something like Optimum Nutrion Whey Protein. The flavor is fine to me. I have been on the vanilla for years. If you want to gain weight throw in some peanut butter (natural kind) maybe a bananna, some honey, milk, eat your eggs, take in a little extra throughout the day, eat healthy snacks, don't get carried away but keep your calories up. eat at least 5-6 times a day. Minimize the cardio and maximize the lifting for your muscle mass. You don't want to gain fat. You should be getting your body weight in grams of protein if you are really wanting progress. So add up the protein in your meats, eggs, etc and your powder and it should total your body weight in grams. You may want to look into some supplements like creatine and glutimine. These are the basics and I am very please with the results of both. Take your multi vitamins and pick up an issue of Muscle Fitness.:thumbup:
By the way I mix my protein with water, I was going through 4 cartons of Soy Milk a week. You get used to the water.
the empoyee suggested Mass-Tech since it had more calories than the other stuff. i'm also going to try to be eating more things that has more protein in it. i eat a lot of meat already (work at a bbq place), but i think i need to eat more eggs.
water...yeah, everyone tells me to stay away from that...some of them said that it'll cause constapation (don't think i spelled that right).
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:22 PM
:thumbsup: http://www.t-nation.com/
sweet, something i can read up on. i'll read/look through the site when i get the chance to since i'm pretty busy today.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:24 PM
yea it can have the same amount of calories if they are the same brand....different brands have different calorie intake per serve........get something thats like 600cal per serving and drink that 3 times a day....
if i remember correctly, Muscle-Tech's Mass-Tech has 1000 calories per serving. lol...but their serving size is waaaaay tooooo much powder. makes it like "liquid cement." :laugh:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:25 PM
I hate you all.. I need some weight loss powder :biggrin:
they have those at GNC's too. :biggrin: :laugh:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Milk and ice cream and yes those things are nasty, during my football days i tried taking it once but i couldnt they are really nasty and now im 6'0 225 lbs and i can bench over my weight so im doing pretty good
yeah, i'm no where near your weight. take off about 90 pounds and you'll have me. also, take off about 6 inches too. lol...
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:28 PM
How old are you?
I was in the same boat when I was in High School/beginning of college. I used weight gainers, but when I started slacking off eventually... Weight gain sucks when it's fat.
There aren't any shortcuts in life that don't have consequences.
(I'm finally on the track back to being thin again.)
i'm 19, almost 20. i've slacked off already, nothing really happened...yeah, i don't want fat weight, i want muscle weight.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:30 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't recomend any weight gainers. Stick to plain old whey protein. Work out hard and eat your calories don't drink them. The protein powder is just an easy way to get the amount of protein your body truly needs to gain solid muscle. Fats and empty calories won't make you have solid gains, you'll just get fat. You just need protein and hard work and you will progress. Weight "gainers" are crap in my opinion.
i think Mass-Tech is both a weight gainer and muscle builder. it has a lot of calories and grams of protein.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:30 PM
It's more about what you do than what you eat. Increase your calorie intake a bit and workout a lot more. When you're working out all the time and you feel hungry, eat.
i'm starting to work out more now...i'm making some time for it.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:31 PM
Don't forget, never stop working out once you start. You'll get fat. :laugh:
i'm think i'm weird. i used to work out at my apartment since they had a gym, but when i stopped working out since i moved into a house, i just got skinnier?????
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 04:32 PM
It has to be a life commitment. You can't ever expect to get huge and then stop working out and stay that way. It is a life commitment.:headbang:
yeah, i kinda learned that the first time. SUCKS tho. lol.
hasher22
03-18-2007, 05:48 PM
yea it is a big effing commitment........i was on this shake for about 1.5 month and i wanted to gain a bit of fat first then start workin out.....i gained 1kg a week which was good since i was still eating the same and not working out. i stopped cuz the shake is sooo damn nasty, i would gag everytime i would try to finish the drink in 1 min. That shake had i think 800cal per serv which was good cuz more calories means more weight gain.....people think its the fat intake which is so wrong.
anyway about 6 months ago i tried a shake with 250 cal per serv, i gained NOTHING.......so ya :)
different diets for different people......not all same diets will work since everyone is different....
elsteverino889
03-18-2007, 06:05 PM
Just take steroids that is the ultimate solution. lmao
Dragonacc
03-18-2007, 06:05 PM
i'm think i'm weird. i used to work out at my apartment since they had a gym, but when i stopped working out since i moved into a house, i just got skinnier?????
lol
You are just young (Not a lot younger than me) Wait until you turn 21 and go out drinking all the time... :laugh:
Dragonacc
03-18-2007, 06:06 PM
Just take steroids that is the ultimate solution. lmao
And pray your GF is one of those "size doesn't matter" kind of people... :biggrin:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 06:07 PM
yea it is a big effing commitment........i was on this shake for about 1.5 month and i wanted to gain a bit of fat first then start workin out.....i gained 1kg a week which was good since i was still eating the same and not working out. i stopped cuz the shake is sooo damn nasty, i would gag everytime i would try to finish the drink in 1 min. That shake had i think 800cal per serv which was good cuz more calories means more weight gain.....people think its the fat intake which is so wrong.
anyway about 6 months ago i tried a shake with 250 cal per serv, i gained NOTHING.......so ya :)
different diets for different people......not all same diets will work since everyone is different....
heh, i drink it with soy milk, so the calories should be somewhere between 800 and a 1000 (what it is for skim milk, i think).
yeah, i agree with you, different people have different diet plans that will work for them.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 06:08 PM
Just take steroids that is the ultimate solution. lmao
And pray your GF is one of those "size doesn't matter" kind of people... :biggrin:
lol :laugh:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-18-2007, 06:09 PM
lol
You are just young (Not a lot younger than me) Wait until you turn 21 and go out drinking all the time... :laugh:
lol...laughing for a reason...
Dragonacc
03-18-2007, 06:35 PM
heh, i drink it with soy milk, so the calories should be somewhere between 800 and a 1000 (what it is for skim milk, i think).
yeah, i agree with you, different people have different diet plans that will work for them.
1000 calories is half of what I eat in a day now. You could be one of the few lucky ones that doesn't gain weight...you'll find out in a couple years.
When I was in high school I was 6' 150lbs. I ate large pizzas and all kinds of other crap by myself all the time. I've gained 30 pounds since then, at one point I was 170lbs mostly muscle. Got up to 180lbs and fat... I'm down almost 10lbs since then at least.
I imagine you laughed at my comment about drinking because you already drink? Like I didn't when I was 19. :wink: But it wasn't everyday for half the day like after I turned 21. :redface:
Enjoy being young now. And in a couple years kick yourself in the ass for it. :laugh:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-19-2007, 03:38 AM
1000 calories is half of what I eat in a day now. You could be one of the few lucky ones that doesn't gain weight...you'll find out in a couple years.
When I was in high school I was 6' 150lbs. I ate large pizzas and all kinds of other crap by myself all the time. I've gained 30 pounds since then, at one point I was 170lbs mostly muscle. Got up to 180lbs and fat... I'm down almost 10lbs since then at least.
I imagine you laughed at my comment about drinking because you already drink? Like I didn't when I was 19. :wink: But it wasn't everyday for half the day like after I turned 21. :redface:
Enjoy being young now. And in a couple years kick yourself in the ass for it. :laugh:
yeah, i eat and eat, but don't really gain anything...
and you got it right, but yeah, not every day tho. once or twice a month...:biggrin:
Black Yaris
03-19-2007, 08:40 AM
this will get ya some weight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLn45-7Pn2Y
I think after all that this is what he ended up ordering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTWqRkBN74
Dragonacc
03-19-2007, 10:32 AM
this will get ya some weight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLn45-7Pn2Y
:bellyroll:
Moose
03-19-2007, 12:44 PM
Okay, first- GNC is a ripoff. Go here: http://www.bodybuilding.com for much cheaper prices and great customer service. I get all of my stuff from them. The forums are pretty informative, as well.
I'm currently using Chocolate Heavyweight Gainer 900 from Champion Nutrition. It tastes awesome, but you will need a blender- you'll be shaking the shit for an hour to get it to mix.
Pure protein is great and all, but it's a pain in the ass. You see, you need to take in all nutrients proportionally- if you load up on protein, you'll be looking for ways to get all of the other things which are important, like amino acids, L-glutamine and your vitamins. A good weight gainer will do this for you.
Here's some tips:
1) Don't take in more than 40g of protein at one time- that is all that your body can process- the rest goes straight to your kidneys. Kidney stones hurt.
2) No matter what supplement you are taking, it is just that- a supplement. Make sure that you are still eating 5 well rounded meals a day. That will also keep your blood sugar in a happy place, and you will have more energy. Consider adding a fish oil capsule to 3 meals, as well, and drink water. Coca-Cola does not count!
3) If you want gains, you have to work for them. Don't kill yourself, but working each muscle group intensely at least every 3 days is a must. Past 72 hours, the muscles begin using themselves for energy.
Bottom line, you will only get as much out of this as you put in to it, and it does become an obsession.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-19-2007, 02:23 PM
this will get ya some weight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLn45-7Pn2Y
I think after all that this is what he ended up ordering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSTWqRkBN74
lol...i gotta watch this at home where there's sound.
but hey, in that second vid, that's how the vanilla flavor looks like. :laugh:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-19-2007, 02:29 PM
Okay, first- GNC is a ripoff. Go here: http://www.bodybuilding.com for much cheaper prices and great customer service. I get all of my stuff from them. The forums are pretty informative, as well.
I'm currently using Chocolate Heavyweight Gainer 900 from Champion Nutrition. It tastes awesome, but you will need a blender- you'll be shaking the shit for an hour to get it to mix.
Pure protein is great and all, but it's a pain in the ass. You see, you need to take in all nutrients proportionally- if you load up on protein, you'll be looking for ways to get all of the other things which are important, like amino acids, L-glutamine and your vitamins. A good weight gainer will do this for you.
Here's some tips:
1) Don't take in more than 40g of protein at one time- that is all that your body can process- the rest goes straight to your kidneys. Kidney stones hurt.
2) No matter what supplement you are taking, it is just that- a supplement. Make sure that you are still eating 5 well rounded meals a day. That will also keep your blood sugar in a happy place, and you will have more energy. Consider adding a fish oil capsule to 3 meals, as well, and drink water. Coca-Cola does not count!
3) If you want gains, you have to work for them. Don't kill yourself, but working each muscle group intensely at least every 3 days is a must. Past 72 hours, the muscles begin using themselves for energy.
Bottom line, you will only get as much out of this as you put in to it, and it does become an obsession.
on a school computer right now, so i'll look up that site at home.
lol...i'm going to invest in a blender within the next couple of days, so i'll blend this stuff that i bought. hopefully it'll be better. oh, Mass-Tech has quite a few vitamins in it, but i should really buy more Centrum again (ran out a while back).
and i'm only using 1-2 scoops of Mass-Tech with 1.5-2 cups of soy milk once or twice a day. so i'm not getting too much protein, i think.
i don't really drink Coke, but i drink water at home, and Mountain Dew, Fruit Punch, and unsweetened ice tea at work. i'll also drink water if i feel a little dehydrated at work as well.
i'm starting to work out more and more now, but i'm going to try not to make this an obsession. lol...thanks for your tips.
brickhardmeat
03-19-2007, 07:26 PM
I drink more than a gallon of water a day. I take in at least 200 grams of protein a day. No kidney stones, of course I don't take it all at once and it doesn't all come from powder. I take EFA, Glutimine, Creatine, Caffine. I take B-complex, C, D, and E right now. I'm laying off the standard multi. I hate GNC they do rip you off. Personally I like supplementcentral.com. I mix my protein with water and I have learned to love it. I take ON vanilla whey but I also use the Egg Protein by Vitol. I work out 5 days a week. I work my, shoulders, then arms, then legs, then back and then chest choosing one muscle group per day works for me. That way I can focus. It is the season to start increasing cardio although I really hate it. I eat the hell out of some fish. This is what I do and it works. I have been at this for more than 3 years and I don't plan on ever stopping. I love it. I would suggest you pick up an issue of Muscle Fitness, it is a nice starting point from anyone. I wouldn't say to subscribe because the issues get really redundant but you can try a routine for a month and learn from it. Anyway I'll shut up now.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-20-2007, 03:25 AM
I drink more than a gallon of water a day. I take in at least 200 grams of protein a day. No kidney stones, of course I don't take it all at once and it doesn't all come from powder. I take EFA, Glutimine, Creatine, Caffine. I take B-complex, C, D, and E right now. I'm laying off the standard multi. I hate GNC they do rip you off. Personally I like supplementcentral.com. I mix my protein with water and I have learned to love it. I take ON vanilla whey but I also use the Egg Protein by Vitol. I work out 5 days a week. I work my, shoulders, then arms, then legs, then back and then chest choosing one muscle group per day works for me. That way I can focus. It is the season to start increasing cardio although I really hate it. I eat the hell out of some fish. This is what I do and it works. I have been at this for more than 3 years and I don't plan on ever stopping. I love it. I would suggest you pick up an issue of Muscle Fitness, it is a nice starting point from anyone. I wouldn't say to subscribe because the issues get really redundant but you can try a routine for a month and learn from it. Anyway I'll shut up now.
wow...that's a lot of stuff that you do. a lot of it i can't do...i don't have a real gym at my house, and can only work with what i have here (dumb bells, Ab Lounge, a treadmill (sp?) and a bike). as for fish, can't cook for crap (man, the advantages with living with your parents). lol...keep giving advice. very good stuff. i might buy an issue or two of Muscle Fitness.
brickhardmeat
03-20-2007, 01:24 PM
You can do almost everything you need to do with a pull up bar, push ups, and dumbells, I myself have a home gym but even without it you can manage. Probably want to invest in an adjustable bench to go with your dumbells and get yourself a pull up bar. you'll be set. and EAT. You don't have to cook the fish, you can eat tuna or grab some sushi.you'll be alright. as long as you get on track with something serious I think you'll see results and you will get more and more involved with it, diet and all. Everyone has to start somewhere.:thumbup:
Kaotic Lazagna
03-20-2007, 02:17 PM
You can do almost everything you need to do with a pull up bar, push ups, and dumbells, I myself have a home gym but even without it you can manage. Probably want to invest in an adjustable bench to go with your dumbells and get yourself a pull up bar. you'll be set. and EAT. You don't have to cook the fish, you can eat tuna or grab some sushi.you'll be alright. as long as you get on track with something serious I think you'll see results and you will get more and more involved with it, diet and all. Everyone has to start somewhere.:thumbup:
haha, we eat sushi at least once a week...hmmm, maybe i should restart getting the mahi over where i work...but man, it doesn't make me full. i forget, what does pull ups work again? i worked out last night, and man, i'm tired...
brickhardmeat
03-20-2007, 07:51 PM
pull ups target your back, your lats, you can also use a lat pull down but most people don't have this at home, easier to have a pull up bar at home, I have an attachment for my bench, this is something important to work on your back day
with dumbells and a bench and a pull up bar you can do quite a lot
check out this website-http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html
Kaotic Lazagna
03-21-2007, 01:56 AM
hmmm, i'll be using that site for some exercises. heh. thanks. keep them coming. good stuff.
Kaotic Lazagna
03-21-2007, 02:06 AM
oh man, that first youtube video is hilarious.
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