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Yarflana
03-14-2013, 03:23 PM
Ok. Installed DF210s and have some minor rubbing on the front.

Wheel/tire combo is 16x7; 205/50/16. I don't know the offset, but the tires are right at the edge of the fender well, not inside, not outside.

The rear is ok and has minor rubbing only with major dips and I have set my Tokico reds to 2+ full hard to handle that.

The front is another story with what's inside the fender well.

I have heard of folks tearing out some part of their fender wells to help with rubbing issues, but I don't know exactly what they are tearing out.

Any advice is welcomed.
Pat

Yarflana
03-14-2013, 04:25 PM
Ok read about fender rolling...I think the baseball bat or other similar method would be helpful, if I need to go that far.

For now, I think I just need to make sure everything is tidy in the wheel wells. I saw today that the driver side fender liner was bowed out over the tire and it was rubbing at every bump in the road! I pushed it in some and that helped. I will take a rubber mallet to that tonight. The other side is good and tidy.

The front is where I will need to get smart.

WeeYari
03-14-2013, 04:33 PM
195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car.

Yarflana
03-14-2013, 04:35 PM
Not changing the rubber. If I cannot make it all work eventually, I will put the Eibachs back on.

Yarflana
03-14-2013, 04:37 PM
I get the sense that guys who are concerned about fender rub are trying to run with a softer ride.

If I don't care about a softer ride, then I can go with less clearance because I can set my shocks (I have Tokico reds) at a lower dampening/stiffer ride and not be concerned with a lot of clearance...right?

This is likely my route on the front anyways. The back has more fender clearance.

Kaotic Lazagna
03-15-2013, 02:51 AM
The offset should be stamped on the back of the rims, most likely either on the hub or on one of the spokes. It'll say "ET__." Replied to your PM too. ;)

mazilla
03-15-2013, 04:34 AM
If you drive it long enough it will likely wear itself in the right places. The tires are stronger than the liner.

47_MasoN_47
03-15-2013, 11:29 AM
I run the same size wheels/tires. That's the main reason I've been leery to lower any more. When I turn left at full lock I scrub in the front. I used the baseball bat method to roll my rear fenders to get rid of that scrub when you hit a large bump.

atxsteve1
03-15-2013, 09:50 PM
i dont get how you are rubbing my car is lower than yours. I was running 18x7.5 and 215/35 with 2 inch drop springs before.

cali yaris
03-16-2013, 05:17 AM
Do you know exactly where it's rubbing?
Is it on the liner,or on the metal fender?

3 ways to fix rubbing in front:
1. Use a razor to trim just the bit of plastic liner that is rubbing. (put blue tape on the liner and drive around to find out exactly where that is).
2. Add some negative camber to your front alignment (-1 degree improves handling and can help with rubbing)
3. Roll the fenders. Have it done professionally, it's cheap and won't hurt your paint. A baseball bat will.

mazilla
03-16-2013, 12:36 PM
Do you know exactly where it's rubbing?
Is it on the liner,or on the metal fender?

3 ways to fix rubbing in front:
1. Use a razor to trim just the bit of plastic liner that is rubbing. (put blue tape on the liner and drive around to find out exactly where that is).
2. Add some negative camber to your front alignment (-1 degree improves handling and can help with rubbing)
3. Roll the fenders. Have it done professionally, it's cheap and won't hurt your paint. A baseball bat will.



Speaking of #3...


I went to have my fenders rolled yesterday and the eastwood roller wouldn't adjust short enough to roll em...sucks arse.

3cyltrbo
03-17-2013, 10:17 AM
195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car.

+1

marlondog
03-18-2013, 01:03 PM
Get some camber bolts from micro image. Tell them that Marlondog sent you.

47_MasoN_47
03-29-2013, 12:23 PM
Will camber help scrubbing the metal part that is kindof behind the wheel? When I turn to the left at full lock I scrub that thing pretty hard. I've knocked a fair bit of the paint off so I know exactly where it's rubbing, haha. The steel looks fairly thick there so I don't know if it would be safe to just dremel a notch out or not.

1.5
03-29-2013, 01:03 PM
I am not seeing what youre trying to describe. Any pics?

Negative camber would tilt the wheels in so if you are rubbing on the inside, camber may make it worse

tooter
03-29-2013, 01:12 PM
195/50/16 rubber if you want to avoid bastardizing your car.

I agree. My wheels have a deep outer rim so I chose 195/60/15's to completely avoid any rubbing issues. 60 series tires also offer higher treadwear numbers and will last longer. :thumbsup:

47_MasoN_47
03-29-2013, 01:13 PM
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-kS3bdshOAlQ/UVW83vVNzzI/AAAAAAAAHBU/96hM6KIa4hY/s800/IMG_20130329_110940_169.jpg

1.5
03-29-2013, 01:14 PM
With how low that is compared to the wheel, negative camber should help tilt the wheel enough to space away from that portion. spacers would help too

47_MasoN_47
03-29-2013, 01:21 PM
ok cool. I have a couple 5mm spacers I haven't done anything with yet. Just bought some camber bolts from MI earlier. I've had the fever to moar low for a while now, so I think I'll just camber this mufug out and drop it another inch with some sportlines.

1.5
03-29-2013, 01:35 PM
coilovers lol and then yes to all above lol

PHXDEMON
03-30-2013, 05:04 PM
I have DF210s and rub in that exact same spot. I have just learned to not turn the wheel all the way.

Kaotic Lazagna
03-30-2013, 11:49 PM
Spacers will most likely get rid of the inner rubbing. Just make sure you don't go wider than the 5mm you have now unless you get extended studs. Also, make sure you check the torque on the nuts once a week at least after installing spacers.