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nurburgring
03-19-2007, 02:08 AM
I was thinking ET45, but would the wheel be sticking in too much? I want to be on the safer side... rubbing is a nono for me.

Black Yaris
03-19-2007, 08:02 AM
if you do not want to rub then do not get those wheels, +38 is it on a 7 inch or wider, that will run the wheels flush with the fenders and just barely clears the inside with no rubbing, and +40 or +45 will rub the inside but will tuck in the fenders a lil nicer

largeorangefont
03-19-2007, 10:54 AM
Are you lowered? If so how much?

If you arent lowered and don't plan to anything from +38 to +45 will be fine on a 7 in wheel.

The lower you go the more critical it is to get the exact offset you need to avoid rubbing. I agree that between +38 and +40 is where you need to be with a 7 in wheel.

My car is lowered 1.7 inches front and rear and I have 205/50/16 tires. 16X7 +40 wheels.

If you get 45 series tires on 16s you won't rub if you go +40 offset. +45 will rub most likely with either tire. My 50 series tires rubs the inner fender liner very slighty on high speed bumps and on ramps.

Black Yaris
03-19-2007, 11:37 AM
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit&reset=yes
please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

largeorangefont
03-19-2007, 02:02 PM
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit&reset=yes
please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

I know exacly what I am talking about. I did edit my post to add more pertinent info. I just woke up when I posted and it seemed to make more sence then. The info I stated above applies to 16in wheels.

Nimble
03-19-2007, 02:04 PM
http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit&reset=yes
please do homework before talking about something you think you know something about

He DRIVES the flippin car he's speaking of! That doesn't qualify him? :iono:

Nimble
03-19-2007, 02:05 PM
The only problem with running say a 205/45 16 vs the 205/50 16 is that the car will be lower as well. It won't appear that way, but the difference in less rolling diameter, will also be the extra amount lowered. I know on my dropped Yaris, I couldn't afford any more drop. That's why I'm going to be a weenie and just buy 195/55 15's when I buy 15" wheels, otherwise, I'd go 195/50 16 for 16's.

largeorangefont
03-19-2007, 02:38 PM
The only problem with running say a 205/45 16 vs the 205/50 16 is that the car will be lower as well. It won't appear that way, but the difference in less rolling diameter, will also be the extra amount lowered. I know on my dropped Yaris, I couldn't afford any more drop. That's why I'm going to be a weenie and just buy 195/55 15's when I buy 15" wheels, otherwise, I'd go 195/50 16 for 16's.

The 205 50s look great on the car, especially now that the springs have settled. The fender gap in minimal and the car is high enough to navigate every obstacle in everyday driving.

I didnt get the Tanabe DFs because I thought they were too low in the back.

PetersRedYaris
03-19-2007, 02:55 PM
Maybe we should all step down and let the tire God, aka the tire guy, aka Black Yaris, tell people which wheels/tires they should run.:thumbdown:
We all know you worked at a tire shop for 7 years but that doesn't mean your the only one who knows tires.

On a more positive note I have 7 inch wide wheels with 38mm offset and no rubbing with 1.1-1.3 inch drop.

Nimble
03-19-2007, 03:37 PM
Maybe we should all step down and let the Tire God, aka the tire guy, aka Black Yaris, tell people which wheels/tires they should run.:thumbdown:
We all know you worked at a tire shop for 7 years but that doesn't mean your the only one who knows tires.

On a more positive note I have 7 inch wide wheels with 38mm offset and no rubbing with 1.1-1.3 inch drop.


I respectfully think I should be said *tire god.* :biggrin:

SailDesign
03-19-2007, 07:08 PM
I'm running 205/45-16s with a 40 offset on an unlowered LB. Looks fine, doesn't rub. No problems. I AM about 1/2" under stock diameter, but the 205/50-16s are about 1/3" over stock - take your pick.
Look in my garage for a pic of the 205/45-16s on the car

nurburgring
03-20-2007, 08:24 AM
I dont get it!:eek:

+38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components.

Please clarify. Thank You. :frown:

An extreme example is illustrated below... sorry for the 1 minute drawing.

http://www.pbase.com/marcwang/image/75937917.jpg

By the way, large orange font, whats your ET ? You rub a little, so I figured if I could give it a bit more positive offset, it shld do the trick.

eTiMaGo
03-20-2007, 11:14 AM
rubbing can also happen on the inside of the wheel well :wink:

PetersRedYaris
03-20-2007, 11:23 AM
[QUOTE=nurburgring;64643]I dont get it!:eek:

+38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components.
Please clarify. Thank You. :frown: [QUOTE]

Thats correct, +45 may rub on the inside, and +38 nearly rubs on the outside. This is why it is recommended to get something between these measurments using them as a minimum and maximum. For a 7 inch wide wheel I would go with a +38 to +40. For a 7.5 inch wide wheel I would go with +42 or +45.

Keep in mind were talking about a diffreence of 7mm from minimum to maximum offset, which is not much. If you don't know, 10 millimeters = 1 centimeter, and 7mm = .27 inches, so about 1/4 inch difference.

largeorangefont
03-20-2007, 11:53 AM
I dont get it!:eek:

+38 rims have lesser offset than +45 , which means..... the +38 is being pushed out more towards the fenders. I dont get it, when u say +38 wont rub, but +45 will, unless u are talking about rubbing on the inside of the tire against the suspension components.

Please clarify. Thank You. :frown:

An extreme example is illustrated below... sorry for the 1 minute drawing.

http://www.pbase.com/marcwang/image/75937917.jpg

By the way, large orange font, whats your ET ? You rub a little, so I figured if I could give it a bit more positive offset, it shld do the trick.

I have +40. and I rub slightly on the INSIDE on the front. +38 should give you a bit more clearance, but you will probably need to roll your rear fenders a bit because if you have the car fully loaded (4 people) the tires my rub on the OUTSIDE. My tires just clear but a +38 would rub.

nurburgring
03-20-2007, 12:36 PM
Thank You. I've been confused for the longest time. To play it safe, I might just go for the rarer 195/50R16s