View Full Version : Have you failed smog and what mods caused you to fail?
YarisSedan
04-21-2013, 02:12 PM
So my car is a 08 which means next year I will have to smog the vehicle since I live in california. If your in a area that has emissions testing were there any mods that caused you to fail such as underdrive pulley, Things im worried about and have known to fail smog are intake and exhaust unless there is a carb sticker.
Kaotic Lazagna
04-22-2013, 01:05 AM
Intake and header for sure will make you fail visual. I had a Neuspeed intake on my GTI, passed the sniffer with flying colors, but failed visual. Even if it has a CARB sticker, the station may choose to fail you (then you'll have a headache trying to deal with that to have them correct it). I never heard of pulleys causing anyone to fail.
Absolutely Red 12
04-24-2013, 11:35 AM
Intake and header for sure will make you fail visual. I had a Neuspeed intake on my GTI, passed the sniffer with flying colors, but failed visual. Even if it has a CARB sticker, the station may choose to fail you (then you'll have a headache trying to deal with that to have them correct it). I never heard of pulleys causing anyone to fail.
They can't fail visual for the item that has a CARB sticker!!
The EO number is entered into the system, giving the smog tech a waiver on that item.
47_MasoN_47
04-24-2013, 01:06 PM
How do any of you CA guys have any fun with your vehicles at all?
mazilla
04-24-2013, 01:12 PM
How do any of you CA guys have any fun with your vehicles at all?
It's good to have friends....
47_MasoN_47
04-24-2013, 01:45 PM
lol, an FFL and modded car. You are basically exactly the type of person CA doesn't want living in their state :P
YarisSedan
04-24-2013, 01:49 PM
lol, an FFL and modded car. You are basically exactly the type of person CA doesn't want living in their state :P
Yeah the stupid thing is pretty much all the bolt on mods for the yaris wont really change how the tail pipe emission is. In-fact something like a intake may actually lower it. And really thats all that should matter.
They should go after the smog exempt cars that have strait pipes and no catalytic converters.
cali yaris
04-24-2013, 01:50 PM
What are the smog rules in Alabama?
47_MasoN_47
04-24-2013, 03:07 PM
What are the smog rules in Alabama?
The more smog the better
Edit for clarification: there are none.
cali yaris
04-24-2013, 03:19 PM
Smog and/or emissions from cars are not a good thing, period. But with your lower population density, it's ok to have fewer restrictions.
I am grateful for our regulations in California. Los Angeles is WAY cleaner than before they were instituted.
Gogogordy
04-24-2013, 04:38 PM
So my car is a 08 which means next year I will have to smog the vehicle since I live in california. If your in a area that has emissions testing were there any mods that caused you to fail such as underdrive pulley, Things im worried about and have known to fail smog are intake and exhaust unless there is a carb sticker.
Always save your OEM parts in California in case a re-install-for-smog is in order.
My Mini Cooper S was highly modified....all I needed to re-install (temporarily) was the factory air box for testing. Thankfully.
(Oh, I did that preemptively)
B2FiNiTY
04-24-2013, 04:46 PM
Depending on what kind of smog station you get (test only or regular), you can have/not have mods to your car.
Gogogordy
04-24-2013, 04:58 PM
Depending on what kind of smog station you get (test only or regular), you can have/not have mods to your car.
Of course removing the obvious ones beforehand will make life easier.
Just saying.
YarisSedan
04-24-2013, 05:15 PM
Always save your OEM parts in California in case a re-install-for-smog is in order.
My Mini Cooper S was highly modified....all I needed to re-install (temporarily) was the factory air box for testing. Thankfully.
(Oh, I did that preemptively)
Yeah i kept mine all my factory parts i kept in a giant tupperware bin in my garage in case i ever want to put anything back to stock. I wanted to put in headers and possibly the microimage intake but might hold off until i smog my vehicle that way i dont have to worry about taking it back off and on again for the next 2 years.
Kaotic Lazagna
04-24-2013, 06:22 PM
They can't fail visual for the item that has a CARB sticker!!
The EO number is entered into the system, giving the smog tech a waiver on that item.
Oh, I have read countless of incidents online where they failed the car despite having the CARB number/sticker. It's illegal for them to, but it still happens, and you gotta deal with the headaches that it brings. One or two of those incidents I read about, the tech was fired.
47_MasoN_47
04-24-2013, 06:34 PM
Smog and/or emissions from cars are not a good thing, period. But with your lower population density, it's ok to have fewer restrictions.
I am grateful for our regulations in California. Los Angeles is WAY cleaner than before they were instituted.
I'm glad it works for you, I just couldn't handle that. I'm certain my car and truck would both fail. Most of the people on infamousnissan say to take $200 with you to the smog tester place and just pay the tech off to pass you. I'm certain that's not legal but that's what the majority of those guys do. I guess it's difficult to keep a 20+ year old japantruck passing smog.
YarisSedan
04-24-2013, 07:38 PM
I'm glad it works for you, I just couldn't handle that. I'm certain my car and truck would both fail. Most of the people on infamousnissan say to take $200 with you to the smog tester place and just pay the tech off to pass you. I'm certain that's not legal but that's what the majority of those guys do. I guess it's difficult to keep a 20+ year old japantruck passing smog.
Well they just changed the laws recently from a misdemeaner to a felony for illegal smogs so its going to be harder and harder to find people willing to pass a car for money under the table.
Especially with these newer cars, you simply aren't going to raise the emissions if you still have the catalytic converters. Even Garms Yaris is absurdly clean compared to any modern car that is larger than a Yaris.
What always makes me laugh is all this smog equipment causes these cars to emit carbon dioxide, which then supposedly is another huge problem(of course it actually is not.)
So tempted to move to a state that does not have any inspections at all. But I know my mechanic really well, and he'll let me get away with anything. Of course in Ma he has to hook the computers up to my car, and do the emissions test, but I am not worried about that.
yarisitis
12-10-2013, 07:10 PM
Just found this thread. I bought my car used and it came with the AFE intake system already installed and I need to get my car smog checked for the first time soon so I'm in the same boat as some of you.
Does anyone know where I can buy the stock air intake assembly for the Yaris? I think I'm just going to install the OEM intake assembly permanently and sell the AFE one but I need to find out where I can buy it.
UberSilver
12-10-2013, 07:59 PM
I bought my Yaris used, so I had to get smog checked. The car came with a CAI, but the smog guy did not care. He was to busy talking with CARB, asking why his system would not recognize my car. Turned out California had not updated there system for CAN. So they told him to just do a sniff test and call it good.
Kickyaris09
12-20-2013, 01:46 PM
Just found this thread. I bought my car used and it came with the AFE intake system already installed and I need to get my car smog checked for the first time soon so I'm in the same boat as some of you.
Does anyone know where I can buy the stock air intake assembly for the Yaris? I think I'm just going to install the OEM intake assembly permanently and sell the AFE one but I need to find out where I can buy it.
What year is your car? Is it a hatch? I'll swap you my stock( with k&n ) for your Cai.
I am grateful for our regulations in California. Los Angeles is WAY cleaner than before they were instituted.
Precisely why I don't believe in liberalism... at least not completely.
yarisitis
12-21-2013, 04:59 PM
What year is your car? Is it a hatch? I'll swap you my stock( with k&n ) for your Cai.
I have a 2008 hatchback. What year/model is yours?
I have the oiled version of the AFE: http://tinyurl.com/l4zjc55
xb visitor
12-23-2013, 11:27 PM
Yea in Calif..its pretty tough. If you want to go fast...legally...you just have to buy a "fast " car to begin with.
Yes there are illegal smog guys and shops..but if they are caught..it jeopardizes there business and their livelihood and their families. I personally used to use a guy in N. Hollywood for a Mustang & a v-8 powered prerunner truck I had...He was caught...and sent to prison...not jail, ...PRISON.FYI it obviously was a large illegall smog shop he was running, there is no way to keep it secret..too many people know about these shops from loose lips. A friend of mine has a twin turbo Porsche..he pays $600.00 to his "guy" every two years,whom is also " star certified"..which the state mandates you periodically take your car to one of these facilities , its a safety feature to combat illegal shops he doesn't deal with streetracers ,muscle cars etc..or younger people..seems to be a good formula for keeping out of trouble.
FOR ALL YOU ANTI SMOG FOLKS: I 100% agree with the EPA and THANK GOD for what they have done here in Calif. When I was a kid the smog in L.A was some of the worst in the world. The skies were so dark some days they were black..you couldn't see the foothills/mountains less than 10 miles away, your lungs burned so bad ,we were forced to sit inside our classrooms, and not allowed outside. I used to ride into L.A. in bumper to bumper traffic with millions of awful 60s and 70s automobiles just pumping out eye watering emissions..you could not even think of driving with your windows down without feeling nauseated it was awful, just like the cars were.
Now the air is clear, and breathable on all but the worst days of summer..a far cry from being quarantined inside our houses and classrooms. And there are MULTI MILLIONS more cars on the roads today than then..and the air still cleaner!!!:thumbup: Just get in a drivethrough today behind a average old 60s/70s muscle car or pickup truck..and its just terrible ,just like getting stuck behind a stinking diesel truck..that ONE SINGLE OLD CLUNKER...will pollute & stink up the air more than a entire small parking lot of new cars. That's impressive work, by everyone to make this awesome state inhabitable.These are not exaggerations by any stretch..the air was really that bad here from the 50s until around the early 80s
All my cars have catalytic converters, and even though some of my past cars were modified they all would pass a actual "smog test" but never the visual:rolleyes:..and they never...never stink of unburnt fuel.
If you have a CARB certified part with a sticker..your parts will be okay. mufflers wont matter, and underdrive pully..I don't even think would be a factor at all. I lost my sticker for the INJEN intake for my Scion..so its technically smog illegal.so I have to replace it with my stock airbox come smog time, actually I don't even use the CAI anymore it does nothing...just sounds kinda fun. If coupled with a forced induction set up or intake /exhust head work then its a good lil power adder. Id like to be able to do a supercharger at some point so I can easily convert back and forth, something you cannot do with a turbo set up. Its frustrating in Calif to today to make a slow car fast..but that's the way it is..its worth it in the long run. Id like another WRX...but the dammned thing was one of the worst reliable fragile cars I ever owned..worse than my mustang is that possible :eek:
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