US or JAPAN?

[forpinks]

Hey I just want to know in your opinion... who has the better automotive technology and consumer electronics technology?

There are alot of forums saying that the US has a better automotive technology:barf:
I dont believe the crap though:bs: ...

[Black Yaris]

JAPAN all the way, most US stuff is made to break so they have job security

[ECHOKnight2000]

They're both good but I believe Japan (generally speaking) has had the upper edge. Both are good in their own right but I think Japanese cars exceed in most area's. Of course its bias to whether you like import or domestic.


P.S. I'd becareful about this kind of subject, it can be touchie and a domestic vs. Import war. Hold the flamming down!:biggrin: :thumbsup:

[Moose]

Something to think about is, not who has the technology, but who is using it.

[ChinoCharles]

Something to think about is, not who has the technology, but who is using it.

Oh so f'n true.

The US military is a decade ahead of anything you see on any consumer market. That fact helps me sleep at night.

[Razr]

Is this a trick question or can patriotism really blind people that badly? :)

[forpinks]

Oh so f'n true.

The US military is a decade ahead of anything you see on any consumer market. That fact helps me sleep at night.

your right about the US military equipment... their advanced, well... after WWII :wink: lets just take drive by wire for example... they've been using those from back in the 70's and GPS from back in 89-91 "not sure" also there's the internet from NASA remember those videos from "the moon"???

but for the general public, military technology will only be available after like 30+years... unless they declassify the technology, only then will it be available for consumer/manufacturer use...

[static808]

whats crazy about auto manufacturing is that people are all gung-ho about buying domestic vehicles, but soo many "american" cars arent even made in america anymore. i believe ford's fusion and other cars is made in mexico, and a bunch of chrysler cars are made in canada. meanwhile, japanese cars, like the camry, are being made here. i could really care less about "patriotism" when it comes to buying a car, cuz when it all comes down to it, it's all about dollars and cents...

--B

[eTiMaGo]

FRENCH CARS AND TECHNOLOGY FTW!

just kidding.... no one can beat the Japs here, though the Koreans are trying very hard nowadays...

[Moose]

just kidding.... no one can beat the Japs here, though the Koreans are trying very hard nowadays...

A little too hard....

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061127/FREE/311270002&SearchID=73275728108411

[Razr]

"The stolen Toyota documents would not have helped anyway, she said, because Hyundai's quality engineering processes do not mesh with the Toyota system."

No fucking kidding. ROFL.

[jamal1984]

Oh common, Asian peoples like to keep their thing forever, Americans like new things annd switching around all the time.

[ChinoCharles]

Oh common, Asian peoples like to keep their thing forever, Americans like new things annd switching around all the time.

Are we talking about promiscuous sex or cars? So confused... :biggrin:

[forpinks]

Oh common, Asian peoples like to keep their thing forever, Americans like new things annd switching around all the time.

LOL!:biggrin: thats true... thats why I'm making money marrying and divorcing people here in Vegas... "I also do matchmaking" LOL!!!


BTW? how come theres "0" votes for USA??? your americans right???

[Nutzoids]

Are we talking about promiscuous sex or cars? So confused... :biggrin:

I would like to be Promiscuous with a couple of Asian Women...

Me too Bo Coup for you baby… Me love you long time!

Either then that...

I think Japan and America are on the same playing field... I mean how many American Branded cars are really Japanese?

Now when it comes to cars... Italians (we don't see much here in the USA) and Germans are leading the pack!

:evil:

Edit: There is one!

[forpinks]

I actually like European technology on cars... especially the Germans:biggrin:

But damn!, they cost too much to buy and maintain so its still not economical
"if I only had the money to buy one:frown: "...

[ChinoCharles]

Okay, who voted USA. Fess up.

[forpinks]

Okay, who voted USA. Fess up.

Blame Darth Vader..."Chino, I am your mother!":thumbsup:

[ChinoCharles]

MOMMY! :wub:

[jamal1984]

Are we talking about promiscuous sex or cars? So confused... :biggrin:

hahaha i mean both.

[Pavel Olavich]

Oh so f'n true.

The US military is a decade ahead of anything you see on any consumer market. That fact helps me sleep at night.

Actually, the US military is most often behind....Information Technology aka Computer systems in the milly are shamefully old...

[Pavel Olavich]

I actually like European technology on cars... especially the Germans:biggrin:

But damn!, they cost too much to buy and maintain so its still not economical
"if I only had the money to buy one:frown: "...

Actually, the Germans are most often behind....Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW, they have one of the worse dependability records of any make, often American cars show better dependability.

The Japanese DO NOT have better technology...why they make better cars then the US is not better technology, but because the US auto makers are heavily saddled with retiree's pensions, retirement funds, medical costs for old workers retired, that sort of thing...this massive "tax" per car sold is preventing the US makers from better quality-control, so they cut corners, just to survive. The Japanese have a much fatter profit margin then US makers, as they're not saddled with retiree and pensioner costs...plus the Unions in the States are killing profit for Ford, GM, and Chyrsler....to their detriment.

The US is not short of brains, nor technology....what holds them back are the massive costs that the Japanese do not have. The Japanese have more $$ for research & development, innovation, and testing...Ford, Chyrsler and GM are fighting to survive and so have little $$ to spare.

As for job security (some mentioned this earlier)...the US makers do not do a shit job for job security...this is stupid...how is putting out a shit product going to give you job security? If anything it will threaten US jobs, not secure them...if anyone has job security it is the Japanese, because as long as they make the best cars, they will have a job to build them.

[Pavel Olavich]

Something to think about in regard to Patriotism:

Who is not patriotic?

The American buying a car made in Japan?

Or the American working making a shit product here?

It is VERY American to own the best regardless of country of origin. It is UN-American to make a shit product.

Ford, GM, and Chrysler are very UN-American for this reason.

And me, and many of you Americans that have bought a Japanese car...who could blame us? Did we let American industry down, or did they let us down?

[Nutzoids]

Okay, who voted USA. Fess up.

I DID... AND AS YOU KNOW I'M A MASTER FREEMASON...

DO SOMETHING!

:evil:

[SailDesign]

Europe and the States are great at inventing stuff - the Japanese are superb, really superb, at adapting and improving what Europe and the States invent. Needless to say, this makes them able to sell more and better than the originators. It was once said by someone wiser than I (can't remember who, in other words) that America does not suffer from a Trade Gap, it suffers from a Design Gap. The rest of the world is just not interested in things designed for inch-sized wrenches, and designed to wear out 2 seconds after a stupid-short warranty has expired. Americans themselves are getting pretty sick of "just-barely-good-enough" design and engineering.
Rant off.

[Moose]

Actually, the US military is most often behind....Information Technology aka Computer systems in the milly are shamefully old...

Well, that's new to me.

Keep in mind that "not shiny and cool looking" does not translate into "way behind."

[田中秀樹]

your americans right???

no. ^__^;;

i'm obviously completely biased.

but with all the talk of european cars, i prefer british over german, italian, etc.

[popeetheus]

Lets get one thing straight...American car companies would make great cars if they wanted to. This has everything to do with the people up top that run the company, they have chosen this culture of mediocrity, not the workers. The workers do the best they can with what they are given. If the companies had thier shit together, then they could swing the pensions and medical AND build good cars too, workers benefits are not dragging them down......This is just mismanagement by CEO's who seem to have only a passing interest in producing automobiles and more interest in letting things stagnate while they live the good life.

[Nutzoids]

Lets get one thing straight...American car companies would make great cars if they wanted to. This has everything to do with the people up top that run the company, they have chosen this culture of mediocrity, not the workers. The workers do the best they can with what they are given. If the companies had thier shit together, then they could swing the pensions and medical AND build good cars too, workers benefits are not dragging them down......This is just mismanagement by CEO's who seem to have only a passing interest in producing automobiles and more interest in letting things stagnate while they live the good life.

YEAH!

You tell 'em Steve Dave!

:evil:

[Yaris Revenge]

+1 what popeetheus said.

Same problem our whole government seems to be having.

~YR