April Yaris Sales: Down

[Thirty-Nine]

New Yaris sales were down 53.6% compared to 2012. Year to date sales are down 34.9%.

It could be worse: The Scion iQ is down 61.7% vs. last year and 60% year to date.

Full subcompact car sales here:

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2013/05/april-2013-subcompact-sales.html

- Andy

[Hershey]

Seems like larger vehicles are the trend . Especially Chrysler / Jeep products .

[47_MasoN_47]

I still don't understand the US fascination with huge vehicles.

One of the main reasons I'm willing to spend so much money on my Hardbody pickup is that noone makes a small truck anymore.

[jpmck03]

I still don't understand the US fascination with huge vehicles.

One of the main reasons I'm willing to spend so much money on my Hardbody pickup is that noone makes a small truck anymore.

I'm not one to pay attention to people's signatures on forums, so I'm glad that you mentioned your small truck! Looks like you've been putting quite a lot of work into it... I know what website I'll be looking at when i get home tonight!
:respekt:

[nookandcrannycar]

Seems like larger vehicles are the trend . Especially Chrysler / Jeep products .

It leaves me SMH.....and wondering what percentage of those buyers are buying AND ALSO being smart with their money (making sure their have adequate resources for their 'later years').

[why?]

it really depends what you are doing with your vehicle. If you have a family and like to take trips, odds are something as small as a Yaris is simply a no go right from the start.

Plus a 4 cylinder Camry gets pretty good gas mileage. And all those hybrids. Even an Avalon hybrid now. You give 80% Americans 35 mpg and they will be happy.

And then of course there are very few luxury options on the Yaris, and a lot of Americans simply won't buy a car without leather/moon roof/ etc.

Oh, and credit. You can put that shiny new $46k Highlander Hybrid on a loan up to 7 years, or more.

[Hershey]

Smaller cars make more sense . A lower monthly payment and less money in the tank . Money that can be used to help the economy , use towards your payment , insurance , house payment , taxes , or utilities . The '11 FIT is under $190 a month with .9 % rate . More money towards the principal . So when or if traded is less cash lost due to depreciation . The gas mileage of the FIT doesn't hurt too , http://www.fuelly.com/driver/cinder/fit . The '08 sedan is paid for .

[nookandcrannycar]

it really depends what you are doing with your vehicle. If you have a family and like to take trips, odds are something as small as a Yaris is simply a no go right from the start.

Plus a 4 cylinder Camry gets pretty good gas mileage. And all those hybrids. Even an Avalon hybrid now. You give 80% Americans 35 mpg and they will be happy.

And then of course there are very few luxury options on the Yaris, and a lot of Americans simply won't buy a car without leather/moon roof/ etc.

Oh, and credit. You can put that shiny new $46k Highlander Hybrid on a loan up to 7 years, or more.

I agree with what you are saying and I realize you are trying to point out array of inputs that might influence a buying decision. It just never ceases to amaze me how many people make vehicle decisions that don't make either personal financial sense or financial sense re business use and write offs (if business is what it will be used for). I also think that a bit restraint is good for the soul even if you don't have to concern yourself with cost.

[nookandcrannycar]

Smaller cars make more sense . A lower monthly payment and less money in the tank . Money that can be used to help the economy , use towards your payment , insurance , house payment , taxes , or utilities . The '11 FIT is under $190 a month with .9 % rate . More money towards the principal . So when or if traded is less cash lost due to depreciation . The gas mileage of the FIT doesn't hurt too , http://www.fuelly.com/driver/cinder/fit . The '08 sedan is paid for .

:clap::clap::clap::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I think a certain percentage of the people who might want an Avalon Hybrid or a Camry Hybrid and would be happy with that 35 MPG (as Why? mentioned) and might be able to stretch and make the payments and avoid a repo on one of those cars should instead be looking at the situation the way you did with your vehicle purchases. They should get a car that is an appropriate size for their needs, but change one or more of the variables so that they incur a lower overall cost of ownership (especially per mile).

[Hershey]

Thanks .

[daf62757]

Good. Poor sales mean lower prices and rebates.

[nookandcrannycar]

Good. Poor sales mean lower prices and rebates.

I agree, but we don't want sales to get so bad that Toyota thinks about prematurely stopping export of the 3rd Gen Yaris to the U.S. :eek:.

[why?]

I agree, but we don't want sales to get so bad that Toyota thinks about prematurely stopping export of the 3rd Gen Yaris to the U.S. :eek:.

they can't. They need it in their lineup to help offset all those Land Cruisers and Lexus' they sell.

And of course, if they really do lower the price when they switch production to France, that will help sales as well.

[nookandcrannycar]

they can't. They need it in their lineup to help offset all those Land Cruisers and Lexus' they sell.

And of course, if they really do lower the price when they switch production to France, that will help sales as well.

Yeah, I forgot about that. With CAFE, your first sentence above provides enough justification to continue to import the Yaris.

[bronsin]

Hmm in our parking lot at work the four cylinder sedans are rapdily overtaking the monster pickups and SUVs. I think I heard someplace the Ford Focus is now the largest selling car here in the US.

Why the YAris should be doing so poorly is a mystery to me. Although its almost impossible to find very many for sale here in South Jersey.

Are people in this country finally coming to their senses and buying small cars. Enquiring minds want to know.

[Flipper_1938]

Maybe the general public has the same opinion of the new yaris interior....I don't think I could stand to look at it every day! I'll keep my current car.

[teddy]

The previous gen Yaris is everywhere around here, but the third gen, not so much. I think the competition just has more to offer. Ford Fiesta, Hyundai Accent are just much nicer IMO.

Let's not forget the compact segment which is offering comparable or better fuel economy with a larger, more comfortable ride. The Honda Civic springs to mind here. Even the Corolla is nice. When my Mother in Law's Yaris was totalled recently it was a no brainer to go to the Corolla for only $1200 more since the sedan isn't offered anymore.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Honda comes up with with the next Fit too.

[Absolutely Red 12]

Good. Poor sales mean lower prices and rebates.

Just got a 2013 3dr L auto for $16200 OTD!! :headbang:

[tk1971]

I would imagine that the stable gas prices and the fact that Jeep Patriots can be had for the price of a new Corolla would stimulate sales.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-01/business/38946731_1_test-patriot-jeep-fuel-economy

Just another casual thought... I have one friend who I've known since high school, and all of my cars are "too small" for him because he's much, much wider than I am. Hard to imagine him squeezing himself into a Yaris. Ever try to lose 100 or more pounds in one's mid-40's? It's easier to go out and buy a Jeep.

[why?]

I would imagine that the stable gas prices and the fact that Jeep Patriots can be had for the price of a new Corolla would stimulate sales.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-05-01/business/38946731_1_test-patriot-jeep-fuel-economy

Just another casual thought... I have one friend who I've known since high school, and all of my cars are "too small" for him because he's much, much wider than I am. Hard to imagine him squeezing himself into a Yaris. Ever try to lose 100 or more pounds in one's mid-40's? It's easier to go out and buy a Jeep.

That is more state of mind than anything else. When I was in high school one of our teachers who was 400+ lbs drove a geo metro. She fit just fine.

[daf62757]

The previous gen Yaris is everywhere around here, but the third gen, not so much. I think the competition just has more to offer. Ford Fiesta, Hyundai Accent are just much nicer IMO.

Let's not forget the compact segment which is offering comparable or better fuel economy with a larger, more comfortable ride. The Honda Civic springs to mind here. Even the Corolla is nice. When my Mother in Law's Yaris was totalled recently it was a no brainer to go to the Corolla for only $1200 more since the sedan isn't offered anymore.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Honda comes up with with the next Fit too.

It not just the Yaris. All of the Toyotas haven undergone some interior changes that are not very attractive. If I needed a new car, I would still buy Toyota, but not for the interior.

[nookandcrannycar]

Maybe the general public has the same opinion of the new yaris interior....I don't think I could stand to look at it every day! I'll keep my current car.

The dash has finally grown on me enough that I could tolerate it (HATED it at first). I also don't like the seats in all but the SE. One can put different seats in a car, but not really a different dash. I'll hang on to my 2nd Gen for many more miles.

[screenprintr]

I'm not looking for a luxury car, but I'd like a decent interior.

[Superfly]

Let's not forget the compact segment which is offering comparable or better fuel economy with a larger, more comfortable ride. The Honda Civic springs to mind here. Even the Corolla is nice. When my Mother in Law's Yaris was totalled recently it was a no brainer to go to the Corolla for only $1200 more since the sedan isn't offered anymore.

I think this is the winner here. Toyota offers zero incentives on the Yaris but if a consumer jumps a half-size to a Corolla, he/she can land zero percent financing and even negotiate a decent price. Likewise, someone can go purchase a Chevy Sonic or Ford Fiesta with zero financing and insane rebates. The Gen2 Yari are everywhere because they sell for a great used price.

[screenprintr]

A loan broker told me that new cars aren't bringing in the profits they use to. They prefer to sell used cars.

[jambo101]

My friend told me they dropped the sedan model in Canada,as many people dont like hatch backs.. sales down? maybe bring back the sedan and sales will rise.

[Thirty-Nine]

My friend told me they dropped the sedan model in Canada,as many people dont like hatch backs.. sales down? maybe bring back the sedan and sales will rise.

Actually, there may be something to it. I'd bet there was a lot of fleet sales with Yaris sedans, too. So now consumers only have a three- or five-door hatch option.

[nookandcrannycar]

A loan broker told me that new cars aren't bringing in the profits they use to. They prefer to sell used cars.

I get SO many letters from Toyota dealers wanting my Yaris.....twofold strategy I imagine...to try to get my Yaris cheap :thumbdown:....and to try to get me to pay more than I should for a new one or (better yet for them) a specific more expensive choice that results in a higher profit margin for them (from a price perspective, as I only pay cash):thumbdown:.

[ern-diz]

I'm surprised at how much used Yarii are selling for. Looked into some used car options for my dad recently and was a bit taken at how much '07's are selling for. Some listed for as much or just 1k below original sale price. Anyone else notice that?

[Absolutely Red 12]

I'm surprised at how much used Yarii are selling for. Looked into some used car options for my dad recently and was a bit taken at how much '07's are selling for. Some listed for as much or just 1k below original sale price. Anyone else notice that?

After searching for months, I figured out SoCal rust free low mile Yarii are being bought by wholesalers, and transported to the east coast to replenish the flood loss cars.

Right now, all we can find (in the private market) are Salvage title, or super high mileage. Thus dealers get top do;;ar for the low moleage units they possess.

Thats why I just bought another new one!!

[jambo101]

My friend told me they dropped the sedan model in Canada,as many people dont like hatch backs.. sales down? maybe bring back the sedan and sales will rise.

I'll probably be looking to upgrade my Yaris if not this summer definitely next summer,If my only option is the hatchback version then Yaris will be off the short list for the next car.Perhaps Corolla,Camry or a Hyundai product will replace what could have been a sure fire sale.

[daf62757]

I wonder how the Corolla fairs on highway mileage. My step daughter just bought a 2011 Corolla and it was very nice.

I am thinking it might be a good alternative.

[Flipper_1938]

I wonder how the Corolla fairs on highway mileage. My step daughter just bought a 2011 Corolla and it was very nice.

I am thinking it might be a good alternative.

My wife's 2005 Corolla woulnd't get over 35 mpg in free fall. It felt like a gas guzzler compared to my Echo (43-44 mpg) or my Yaris sedan (40-41 mpg)

[nookandcrannycar]

The previous gen Yaris is everywhere around here, but the third gen, not so much. I think the competition just has more to offer. Ford Fiesta, Hyundai Accent are just much nicer IMO.

Let's not forget the compact segment which is offering comparable or better fuel economy with a larger, more comfortable ride. The Honda Civic springs to mind here. Even the Corolla is nice. When my Mother in Law's Yaris was totalled recently it was a no brainer to go to the Corolla for only $1200 more since the sedan isn't offered anymore.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Honda comes up with with the next Fit too.

Each person has a different experience, but I rarely have combined city/hwy tanks (which are all my tanks) that are under a 40 MPG average for the tank. While reading other forums, I don't find that Accent and Fit owners are getting my results. I don't yet trust the long term reliability of the Fiesta, so I haven't noticed what most owners seem to be getting re MPG.

[Absolutely Red 12]

I'm surprised at how much used Yarii are selling for. Looked into some used car options for my dad recently and was a bit taken at how much '07's are selling for. Some listed for as much or just 1k below original sale price. Anyone else notice that?

Here'e one:

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/pts/3797803975.html