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caineroad
05-10-2013, 05:55 PM
are there any springs and shocks out there that provides less body roll and more comfort than the stock spring?
More comfort and less body roll aren't really gonna go together. Stiffer springs will help with firming up the ride but that will never be "more comfortable" unless youre one of those crazy people like me who think slammed and stiff as hell IS more comfortable lol
caineroad
05-10-2013, 06:01 PM
but how does mercedes and audi does it, their cars dont roll as much in the corner and ride is very decent if not better than our stock spring??
i drove a 2013 chevy equinox last week for a road trip and the ride is much better than the yaris, much less body roll even for a big SUV and ride is more comfortable..
how do these manufacturers able to do it?
WeeYari
05-10-2013, 06:45 PM
^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate.
A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get.
Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising.
jpmck03
05-10-2013, 07:27 PM
^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate.
A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get.
Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising.
From a guy that spent a lot of time researching different springs on here, this is one of the simplest and best explanations I've seen of the difference between progressive and linear springs. :clap:
mr_miles
05-10-2013, 08:33 PM
Stiffer springs will help with firming up the ride but that will never be "more comfortable" unless youre one of those crazy people like me who think slammed and stiff as hell IS more comfortable lol
Glad I'm not the only one, lol.
caineroad
05-10-2013, 09:21 PM
which progressive spring do you guys recommend? for minimal drop.
caineroad
05-10-2013, 09:22 PM
btw does the shock has anything to do with comfort/handling?
caineroad
05-10-2013, 09:25 PM
i found something like this:
how come only two are progressive and others are linear? isn't the best to put all progressive?
http://i44.tinypic.com/33w9t6r.png
but how does mercedes and audi does it, their cars dont roll as much in the corner and ride is very decent if not better than our stock spring??
i drove a 2013 chevy equinox last week for a road trip and the ride is much better than the yaris, much less body roll even for a big SUV and ride is more comfortable..
how do these manufacturers able to do it?
^ Springs with progressive rate vs linear rate.
A spring with progressive rate gives oem (soft) ride while cruising. Through it into a corner, and as the springs undergo compression stress, they stiffen up. The greater the stress, the stiffer they get.
Linear springs a stiff all the time. They eliminate body roll nicely, but harshen the ride while casually cruising.
Don't take this to think getting progressive rate springs will make a Yaris feel and handle like a Benz. There is a lot more to it.
Those ksports I ran. Yes they're cushier than a lot of springs out there but they go low and thus still stiffen the ride.I think h+r springs are the most moderate drop progressive rate spring but I think they have a higher spring rate so are still stiffer.
I'm sorry but maybe if you bag it you can get better performance and super low and then it will be almost as comfy as a luxury car.
caineroad
05-10-2013, 10:51 PM
what do you mean bag it?
UberSilver
05-11-2013, 01:55 PM
btw does the shock has anything to do with comfort/handling?
Shocks have more to do with it than springs.
You can make a car handle well with good shocks and stock springs, but good springs and stock shocks will not handle near as good.
thebarber
05-11-2013, 04:00 PM
I've got some tein basic coilovers for sale, $400 picked up in Kitchener
cali yaris
05-11-2013, 04:16 PM
how come only two are progressive and others are linear? isn't the best to put all progressive?
How do you know only two are progressive?
H&R makes a really nice set of progressive springs. For minimal drop. Tanabe NF210's or Eibachs are a good choice.
caineroad
05-11-2013, 10:55 PM
^But does H&R makes more comfortable ride that stock? if so by how noticeable?
TOLMACH
05-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Shocks have more to do with it than springs.
You can make a car handle well with good shocks and stock springs, but good springs and stock shocks will not handle near as good.
+100
caineroad
05-11-2013, 11:20 PM
can i simply fit a mercedes shock to my yaris? lol
which one is compatible with the yaris?
caineroad
05-13-2013, 10:45 PM
any aftermarket shock available for yaris makes better ride!?
E46 BMW shocks will fit in the rear
Mittelklasse
05-14-2013, 04:17 PM
I've been running on H&R springs. The drop is about 1 inch.
They're of progressive type and I'll say the ride has gotten noticeably better.
http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u354/Krotchyminator/Yaris_side.jpg
However, I wouldn't recommend this one if most of the time you drive with more than 1 passenger,
as more load than that will compress the springs into the "stiff zone".
Astroman
05-14-2013, 04:36 PM
I've been extremely pleased with my Sprint Performance springs. Worked great even with OEM shocks, drove around like that for years and was tearing up corners. Finally got some TRD sportivo shocks and it is better, but not OMG better.
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