LSD

[HTM Yaris]

who has them for sale ...in stock

[Nutzoids]

Good Question... I would like to know as well!

:evil:

[ChinoCharles]

http://www.boomplustoys.net/trd_vitz_new.shtml

They won't be in stock. Special order, probably close to 2 month delivery time.

[St_G]

Are we talking about limited slip differentials or lambo-style doors?

[ChinoCharles]

Limited slips. HTM is no rice boy.

[03Z33]

www.kaazusa.com

In stock, by far the BEST LSD made!
I have one of these in all of my cars, just waiting for my clutch and flywheel before I install in the Yaris.

[Kaotic Lazagna]

^ yeah, heard nothing but good things about Kaaz. but i can't speak from experience. i never had a car with an LSD before...

[eTiMaGo]

Driving a car with LSD is like flying in the air with the birds at your side... or driving underwater, following a school of rainbow-colored fish..

Oh wait, are we talking about the same kind of LSD? :biggrin:

[spkrman]

Driving a car with LSD is like flying in the air with the birds at your side... or driving underwater, following a school of rainbow-colored fish..

Oh wait, are we talking about the same kind of LSD? :biggrin:

this is how it is for me everyday? :cool:

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

i only saw the application for the ncp13 and not ours...(NCP91)

[Dragonacc]

I prefer helical LSDs over clutch style (Kaaz) because the clutch pack will eventually wear out.

If Quaife made an LSD for our cars that's the route I would go personally.

[jdubau55]

The clutch pack can easily be replaced not to mentioned tuned for specific apps.

[Dragonacc]

The clutch pack can easily be replaced not to mentioned tuned for specific apps.

Replacing clutch packs is a hassel (and costs money), especially in a FWD tranny. And while tuning for specific applications is nice, who's going to do that with their Yaris? :wink:

[03Z33]

i only saw the application for the ncp13 and not ours...(NCP91)

Part # DBT-1621 is the correct KAAZ LSD for Yaris/Vitz NCP90/91. This has already been fitted to the Tein USA as well as several other US/Canada cars and makes sense since the stock diff and trans are shared between the NCP10 Echo/Yaris (Mk1) as well as FWD Corolla, Matrix, etc...

I prefer helical LSDs over clutch style (Kaaz) because the clutch pack will eventually wear out.

If Quaife made an LSD for our cars that's the route I would go personally.

If you can get your clutch to wear out before it's time to change engines and trans, you are doing something very wrong :confused: :laugh:
The Quaife/Peloquin units don't hook up nearly as well and create way too much torque steer without actually getting the power down to the ground.

Replacing clutch packs is a hassel (and costs money), especially in a FWD tranny. And while tuning for specific applications is nice, who's going to do that with their Yaris? :wink:

Clutch packs WILL NOT need to be changed in the lifetime of any street/track Yaris unless you're purely using this as a track only race car at 100% all the time. The same people that would go through the trouble and cost of upgrading to an LSD in a Yaris in the first place would also be open to rebuilding/adjusting the unit if needed. Admittedly this is not for everyone due to the cost of parts and labor.

[Dragonacc]

If you can get your clutch to wear out before it's time to change engines and trans, you are doing something very wrong :confused: :laugh:
The Quaife/Peloquin units don't hook up nearly as well and create way too much torque steer without actually getting the power down to the ground.



My point wasn't that it would wear out quick, but the fact that it would wear out at all, it's not something I want to deal with. It's been my experience that helical LSDs hold higher power levels than clutch pack units also.

As far as which unit hooks up better I think that's open for debate. I've used both kinds of LSDs discussed here (and viscous units too) and both hooked up just fine.

Clutch packs WILL NOT need to be changed in the lifetime of any street/track Yaris unless you're purely using this as a track only race car at 100% all the time.

Or you are making a lot of power, or you keep your cars a long time, but on average you're right, I'll give you that. :wink:

[Vanderkitten]

I am looking into the Kaaz for the Turbo kit for the Yaris. Was there a Matrix model that came with a factory LSD? (the one with the Celica motor, maybe?) That would be the cheapest way to upgrade I guess. I wonder if that 6-speed would fit in there, too?

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Mechanical L.S.D. NCP91(For RS grade,5M/T model only) 41301-AW004 F 1 90,000


this is off of the TRD website:thumbup: there is also a helical avil. for the 1nzfe motor, just not sure if compatible

[Vanderkitten]

Nice, what's 90,000Yen in USD?

[fu_im_from_texas]

90 000 Japanese yen = 730.17 U.S. dollars

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=90%2C000+Yen+in+USD&btnG=Google+Search

[Jerkratt]

so its only for manny trans... damit cant wait till my wife gets her license so i can give her this auto one and import one from canada... well go there and buy the 5 door manny tranny

[dngz]

Here is the email kaaz sent me awhile ago:

Hi Derrick,
We just confirmed with Toyota and figured out that the
AE92 front drive Corolla unit will fit your car (2007 yaris sedan). The part number is
DBT1621. This unit will also fit the Scion XB/XA and Yaris Coupe.
Best Regards,
Ray / Kaaz USA

[cali yaris]

www.kaazusa.com
In stock, by far the BEST LSD made!
I have one of these in all of my cars, just waiting for my clutch and flywheel before I install in the Yaris.

I am a dealer for Kaaz. Interested? -- PM for pricing.

[Thirty-Nine]

An LSD would be a great modification!

[Moose]

Kaaz is a great unit, but I must agree with a couple of other folks on here that Quaife would be the way to go. Great daily driveability (you don't even know it's there), and it hooks up just fine while tracking. On top of that, Quaife warranties the unit for life, even when used in a racing application. I used a Quaife in my B18 powered Civic for 3 years of daily driving and countless track days without a single problem. 75,000 miles without having to change a clutch was nice, too.

[kurokoma-kun]

Let's pretend I was someone lazy and didn't want to search, what are the advantages of an LSD?

Like the name suggests, it limits the amount of difference in speed and torque between wheels. It means that some torque gets to both wheels even when one wheel has less traction than the other.

I have one on the Miata and having driven one without LSD in my experience it helps you get around corners quicker.

[kurokoma-kun]

So what difference will I notice in my daily driving, ie harder/harhser shifts, etc? I can't see any negative to this from what you say.

Does there have to be a negative? :wink: I suppose the expense and inconvenience of having it installed, and the fact that it is mechanically more complex and therefore (potentially) more troublesome might be seen as negatives.

But I am no expert, think I will let the mechanical gurus elaborate further. :smile:

[RShatchback]

I doubt your going to see miraculous harder or harsher shifts - its not like you installed a shiftkit in an auto, or a heavy duty clutch. It just helps to distribute power to both front wheels rather than just one. My EG civic coupe with a b16 swap had a limited slip, it cuts back on traction issues like wheel hop and torque steer compared to vehicles without it.