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majorposer
03-27-2007, 07:44 PM
I work at a MINI cooper dealership, and let me be the first to say how easy they have it when it comes to aftermarket. everything is laid out for them. i've installed a couple clip-in harnesses for customers, and i was really impressed. Now i know the proper way to install a harness, and if it takes me to drill holes into the floor, i'll do it. But does anyone have simple set-up?

punch
03-28-2007, 09:21 AM
I work at a MINI cooper dealership, and let me be the first to say how easy they have it when it comes to aftermarket. everything is laid out for them. i've installed a couple clip-in harnesses for customers, and i was really impressed. Now i know the proper way to install a harness, and if it takes me to drill holes into the floor, i'll do it. But does anyone have simple set-up?


yep, you need a roll bar

HTM Yaris
03-29-2007, 07:17 PM
Use the back seat seatbelt bolts . Safe-Quip has an easy to remove/apply plate that will attach to your rear seatbelt bolts . Their Harnesses are the best . The have old style (latch) and new style (quick release hubs) . In any color you want . They will even sew patches on if you ask . They are right down the street from me . They have a bunch of very experienced "Young" :) ladies that sew the belts .

majorposer
03-29-2007, 07:27 PM
See my problem i run into is not the shoulder belts, but the lower two belts. there isn't anything behind the seat to mount too with out drilling.

HTM Yaris
03-29-2007, 07:30 PM
use the car seatbelt mounts or the seat mount bracket bolts
also there should be 3 or 4 lower belts not 2

Spades
03-29-2007, 07:41 PM
well, if you are going to autoX, maybe I am wrong, but are safety harnesses allowed to be screwed into the floorboards? I was thinking that for a full harness and to be approved they needed to be hooked to a rollcage...thats just my lack of info comming from my ass though, I am 'prolly completely wrong.

jdubau55
03-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Im sure it should be stated very clearly where and how the harness mounts in the SCCA rules for each class.

eTiMaGo
03-30-2007, 11:26 AM
The way mine are mounted are probably against any regulations, but it gets the job done quite well without a roll cage (yet)

largeorangefont
03-30-2007, 11:30 AM
The way mine are mounted are probably against any regulations, but it gets the job done quite well without a roll cage (yet)

That will really screw you up if you get hit from the side or rear. That configruation is highly dangerous.

eTiMaGo
03-30-2007, 11:37 AM
Yeah that's what I thought too, but I rarely even use the harness nowadays, the regular seatbelt is still fine, and it gets rid of that annoying flashing reminder light.

I will eventually get a roll cage and will be sure to have the harness redone properly :wink:

largeorangefont
03-30-2007, 11:42 AM
Yeah that's what I thought too, but I rarely even use the harness nowadays, the regular seatbelt is still fine, and it gets rid of that annoying flashing reminder light.

I will eventually get a roll cage and will be sure to have the harness redone properly :wink:

Well if you dont use them its ok then.


Get a harness bar made in the mean time. It should be pretty simple for a shop to design and weld one up for you. Then you can use the harnesses and it will be safer.

majorposer
03-30-2007, 07:38 PM
well, i've been through the rule books before on a previous car. there are loops between the rear seatback and seat bottom that i can clip into. it's a little less than a 45 degree angle, which is legal. i can mount too the sheet metal, but i need to use approved backing plates to disperse force better than a nut and washer. Your also not allowed to mount to the seat. i'll have to see about getting some brackets made to use the seat track mounting points.