View Full Version : 2.4L on Yarii???
forpinks
03-27-2007, 08:05 PM
Is it possible to fit the 2.4L engine from the Camry,Rav4,tC, and gen2 xB?
even if it fits what the speed increase?, also is there a possibility of installing a turbo ang hitting 262++HP and about the same digit torque?
I never saw a Yaris with the Camry 4cylinder engine not even in the deep cyber- space...
It will be great if Toyota makes a 2.4L Yaris 4WD Turbo with 4wd controller, traction control off switch, 4wheel disc brake,6spd manual, and even convertible or retractable hard top:thumbup: ...
ECHOKnight2000
03-27-2007, 09:54 PM
It would be cool but I don't think it would work. The 1.8ltr barely fits and the 2.4 would weigh the car down, but I guess we can dream, I could be wrong:iono: :biggrin: :thumbsup:
spkrman
03-27-2007, 10:27 PM
1.8 + turbo is your best bet... it actually fits.
eTiMaGo
03-27-2007, 11:23 PM
with a big shoehorn and a tub of astroglide maaaaybe...
Black Yaris
03-27-2007, 11:41 PM
you and your astroglide Thomas
forpinks
03-28-2007, 12:07 AM
Whats Astro-glide:rolleyes: ???
It would be fun if we have any engine with 300HP that fits the Yaris with 4WD...
Black Yaris
03-28-2007, 12:09 AM
http://www.astroglide.com/
I am not going to post any pix on this one
pc1x1
03-28-2007, 12:37 AM
http://www.astroglide.com/
I am not going to post any pix on this one
:eyebulge: :eyebulge: :eyebulge:
Its an awesome thought (Yaris Turbo), but I came to the realization, myself that the Yaris wasn't meant to be fast. Invest on a yaris now, enjoy it, save money, and once I can comfortably afford a fast car, then get one instead of trying to force the yaris into something it is not. It is however a very fun.
ChinoCharles
03-28-2007, 01:04 AM
If you can swap a Tacoma engine into a Yaris you can swap anything. Its all in how big your money tree is.
Black Yaris
03-28-2007, 01:05 AM
I got a red wood in the back 40 Chino, want to go give her a shake?
ChinoCharles
03-28-2007, 01:10 AM
I don't even know how to take that.
Sick man. :eek:
Black Yaris
03-28-2007, 01:15 AM
http://www.d.umn.edu/tma/MungerSite/PicturesSmall/048SBCTrans.jpg
come one sick boy, I know Thomas was just talkin about astoglide and all
ChinoCharles
03-28-2007, 01:15 AM
TIMBERRRRRRRRR
The Starlet was the precursor to the Vitz/Yaris line, and it was available in Turbo variants and 4WD for years... So up until 7 years ago, Toyota had decided that it's compact B segment car ought to have good performance variant - so WTF happened?!?
pc1x1
03-28-2007, 08:34 AM
The Starlet was the precursor to the Vitz/Yaris line, and it was available in Turbo variants and 4WD for years... So up until 7 years ago, Toyota had decided that it's compact B segment car ought to have good performance variant - so WTF happened?!?
insurance rats. and cost of development maybe? The Starlet was a monster. :eyebulge:
elsteverino889
03-28-2007, 09:22 AM
I think one of the easiest swaps would be the Celica GT-S engine in there with a turbo and no one has done it yet, on the honda forums this is the main subject whos swapping what and no one has done it over here. This homo in my class has an integra and he laughs at us bcuz there is so much going on in his forum(yes i know there are alot more years and models) and not much in ours....
Vic-2NZFE
03-28-2007, 02:00 PM
Starlet = 2 - Yaris Grandpa :biggrin:
eTiMaGo
03-28-2007, 02:12 PM
The Starlet was the precursor to the Vitz/Yaris line, and it was available in Turbo variants and 4WD for years... So up until 7 years ago, Toyota had decided that it's compact B segment car ought to have good performance variant - so WTF happened?!?
Toyota's gone soft... I mean, what are the sports cars they are selling today? MR-S and Celica... MR-S uses a 1ZZ engine, same damn thing we get in corollas here! At least the Celica has a high rpm engine, but even so it can't really be considered all that sporty compared to the previous generations' rally-conquering monsters.
I guess it's all about profit margins now, pandering to the larger market, forgetting the performance enthusiasts...
At least they're working on a new Supra, and possibly an AE86 successor... there is still hope!
Yarii
03-28-2007, 03:46 PM
Toyota's gone soft... I mean, what are the sports cars they are selling today? MR-S and Celica... MR-S uses a 1ZZ engine, same damn thing we get in corollas here! At least the Celica has a high rpm engine, but even so it can't really be considered all that sporty compared to the previous generations' rally-conquering monsters.
I guess it's all about profit margins now, pandering to the larger market, forgetting the performance enthusiasts...
At least they're working on a new Supra, and possibly an AE86 successor... there is still hope!
Unless you're in Canada (I think it's the same in the states)... We don't get anything sporty over here. We get "sport packages" on Toyota's regular cars... They include things like *fast looking, ugly-ass trim* and *a slightly more powerful engine*
Spades
03-28-2007, 04:55 PM
well, ussually when it comes to cars, you make a choice...gas milage and good reliability, or big hp numbers. you can sometimes have both, but that is ussually difficult to develop and generally expensive to purchase and repair.
now, on to why it hasnt been done yet....someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the 1.8 require modification to the yaris just to fit in? The 2.4 is even bigger...also, bigger is not always better...while the 1.8s used in the celica weren't the best as far as being able to handle big boost without major internal mods(just what I have read, haven't worked on one yet), they have the potential to be beasts when built right....and whats more they actually fit.
I have also read they are lighter, which, in small cars, is a pretty major concern. Installing too big of a engine will not only trash your handling and braking, it will add more weight and slow the car down...a big engine isnt always the best way to go faster...
Personally, if people can determine if our little 1.5l engines we get here in the US handle 5-7 PSI without sending a rod through the block,ect, I plan on installing a roots type supercharger on my Yaris someday. It won't be fast by any means, but it will make twisty roads more entertaining, and it will also enable me to climb hills without shifting all the way down to 3rd.
LoudYar
03-28-2007, 05:24 PM
5.8 Liter, with a shopping cart welded on the engine bay, plus some astroglide just for a slick fit ;)
Is anybody's money tree that big?.
Maybe we can save a few leaves by stealing a 5.8 outta there new tundra's ;)
LoudYar
03-28-2007, 05:27 PM
On a more serious note, im very interested in the idea of swapping the engine outta the yaris.
190HP could possibly make the Yaris a very fun car to drive.
Spades
03-28-2007, 06:15 PM
I have helped friends out with engine swaps before, and on some of them, the amount of machining,fabricating,and wiring, as well as time and money, could have often times have been spent on beefing up the engine that was in it.
In alot of cases the engine in the car could be made to have more horsepower for the same amount of money than the engine you were trying to install....and that was if you did all the work yourself.
I dunno, if for a few grand you can get say, 150-170 reliable HP out of the 1.5 currently in the yaris, I would say do it, it will most likely get more fuel efficency and be more entertaining and cheaper than a swap...even though a stock 1.8 has what, 20 more hp? The added weight would make that hp differance null.
I think that a supercharger and some bolt on mods could get the little 1.5 up to 150hp+ with only say, 7psi of boost. If you could do that, I would say that would be better than the thousands of dollars and hours of time to swap in a engine.
elsteverino889
03-28-2007, 09:51 PM
put a 7.1 hemi SRT-8 engines thats in the chargers and the 300c's that will be AWSOME!
How does a Hartley H1 2.8L V8 with 375HP @ 10KRPM, and 210 lb-ft @ 6500 RPM sound? 100lbs lighter than the GM ecotec 2.0 too..
It fits into an Ariel Atom (http://www.dpcars.net/atom/index.htm), so it'd probably fit into a Yaris :wink:
pc1x1
03-29-2007, 12:01 AM
I don't think the yaris can take more than 150 hp. Without major internal mods, and with that said, to do those mods, would prob be around 10k if not more, to completely swap, or build the engine. So now the car costs $23,000, plus rollbar etc, etc, point is, Yaris wasn't meant to be fast, its not going to be fast, and if you make it fast, well thats contradictory, as you could bought a Lancer Evo 9, or WRX Sti, and go fast, without voiding warranty, etc. Yaris is a great ecobox, with great mpg, those are the selling points. cheap and economical, and eco friendly, changing its character makes no sense, slightly making it better does. I will add an exhaust, and CAI personally. But breaking the budget, and MPG does not. Save up for a GTR if you must ;).
TRD Thailand charge 150K Baht to swap in a 2ZZ-GE plus gearbox. Add that to the base price of a Yaris E Manual (599K) and throw in another 50K for some suspension and tires, and you're talking 800K Baht (~USD$22,900).
A 5-speed Impreza STi (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/th/vehicle/specs.php?lang=en&key=SUBA07AN&new=1) sells for 3.95 Million Baht here -- which would buy you 5x 2ZZ-GE modded Yarii, or leave you with 3.15M Baht change (USD$90,000!) to pump the fuck out of the 2ZZ-GE :)
Different economies! :wink:
eTiMaGo
03-29-2007, 03:47 AM
TRD Thailand charge 150K Baht to swap in a 2ZZ-GE plus gearbox. Add that to the base price of a Yaris E Manual (599K) and throw in another 50K for some suspension and tires, and you're talking 800K Baht (~USD$22,900).
A 5-speed Impreza STi (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/th/vehicle/specs.php?lang=en&key=SUBA07AN&new=1) sells for 3.95 Million Baht here -- which would buy you 5x 2ZZ-GE modded Yarii, or leave you with 3.15M Baht change (USD$90,000!) to pump the fuck out of the 2ZZ-GE :)
Different economies! :wink:
Ya hit the nail right on the head there :wink:
Although the cheap performance car of choice on these shores is the old A31 Nissan Cefiro, usually swapped with all sorts of engines.. 2JZ's, RB's, SR's... But then there are so many on the road, and they are 10 year old cars. Gotta be different!
Black Yaris
03-29-2007, 07:23 AM
why don't we do this engine swap
http://blog.scifi.com/tech/pics/jetcar_w.jpg
"The jet boosts his engine by a cool 1,350 horsepower and is actually street legal in California because it still runs on the VW's factory engine. He claims he isn't sure what the top speed is because once it hits 160 mph the car starts to lift off the ground, which sounds like a pretty wussy excuse to us"
Although the cheap performance car of choice on these shores is the old A31 Nissan Cefiro, usually swapped with all sorts of engines.. 2JZ's, RB's, SR's... But then there are so many on the road, and they are 10 year old cars. Gotta be different!
1) it's a Nissan, 2) it's butt-ugly, 3) it's 10+ years old. No thanks :tongue:
I actually came this || close to buying a new Honda Cervix with the intention of wedging a K20A + supercharger in it (300+HP). Then I looked at it again. Then I looked at it again. No matter how much I looked at it and wanted it to change, it still kept on looking like my grandma's car.. So here I am with a Yaris and (coming soon) the Mini-monster truck Hilux from hell instead :wink:
Black Yaris
03-29-2007, 07:35 AM
I actually came this || close to buying a new Honda Cervix
They realy do sell body parts in Thailand, don't they.... Honda is just hacking up Thai woman and selling off their Cervix's.... what is the world coming to?
eTiMaGo
03-29-2007, 07:35 AM
Oh god yeah the new Civic (Cervix! haha!), looks pretty cool from the front, not half bad from the sides, but look at that back end, ew!
The hatchback version is pretty sexy though, like the Si in the states and the Type R, but any chance we'll get that over here? Highly unlikely...
3.0L Accord with turbo/supercharger could be a very interesting base, though...
3.0L Accord with turbo/supercharger could be a very interesting base, though...
Yes it would be, but the base there is 1.6M - think of what you could do to a Yaris with 1M Baht :wink:
If they sold the Cervix hatch here, you probably wouldn't see me posting here :) Likewise if they sold the Mazda3 MPS..
Black Yaris
03-29-2007, 07:43 AM
Yes it would be, but the base there is 1.6M - think of what you could do to a Yaris with 1M Baht :wink:
If they sold the Cervix hatch here, you probably wouldn't see me posting here :) Likewise if they sold the Mazda3 MPS..
Seriously is there a car called a Cervix there? That would just be funny?:laughabove:
Nar man, It's just my pet name for them, seeing how girly they are and all :)
eTiMaGo
03-29-2007, 08:18 AM
Yes it would be, but the base there is 1.6M - think of what you could do to a Yaris with 1M Baht :wink:
LOL I should know, I'll be getting there very quick with the engine swap and other extras needed (roll cage, proper brakes, etc) :laugh:
forpinks
03-29-2007, 02:49 PM
Seriously is there a car called a Cervix there? That would just be funny?:laughabove:
WE GUYS WONT BUY A "HONDA CERVIX" OR ELSE WE'LL ALL BE WOMEN!!!:laugh:
dont you know what a "cervix" is?
then if not, you dozed off on your anatomy class!
eTiMaGo
03-30-2007, 03:35 AM
cervix? ah, we all went through that...
:biggrin:
I still bump into them reguarly :wink:
eTiMaGo
03-30-2007, 06:20 AM
this, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of "double entendre" :laugh:
pc1x1
03-30-2007, 09:17 AM
I still bump into them reguarly :wink:
That is soooo wrong... lol :bellyroll: :thumbsup:
Nimble
04-01-2007, 03:52 PM
[QUOTE=forpinks;67783]also is there a possibility of installing a turbo ang hitting 262++HP and about the same digit torque?[QUOTE]
I'd think 261 hp would be a more reasonable target. 262 is *far* too high. :redface:
YarisPR
04-02-2007, 09:55 AM
People here in P.R. are runing Toyota Tercel with Scion Tc's 2.4 they are running 14 and 13 high at 1/4 mile and all gasoline (no boost no NOS).
I just love puertorrican hability to insert motors in small cars...
elsteverino889
04-02-2007, 11:50 AM
People here in P.R. are runing Toyota Tercel with Scion Tc's 2.4 they are running 14 and 13 high at 1/4 mile and all gasoline (no boost no NOS).
I just love puertorrican hability to insert motors in small cars...
Bro you know I was gonna go to PR this week but I didnt get a chance to. Im sure when I do end up going I'll run into you YarisPR.
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