Just put new Wheels on

[nick1983]

Up graded from 15's to 16's, 185/60/15 to 205/50/16. The difference is amazing. Tires worked out to be almost the same height installed. No rubbing.

The tires are Made by Nexen. Really good brand for really good cost.

[tca4]

:needpics:

[Spades]

yeah bud, we need pics of the wheels and how they look on your car

[nick1983]

I will get some once it is out of the shop. Putting them on I noticed that the paint was actually peeling off my drivers side fender. It is getting repainted under warrenty.:thumbdown:

[brickhardmeat]

I think I am going to get 15 with 205/50. I'd like to see some pics of what you've installed.

[Vic-2NZFE]

No pictures, come on :thumbdown:

[LoudYar]

:needpics:

What he said!

You gotta put a picture of your Yar up! Lets us see what your working with :wink: hhahaha

[Pavel Olavich]

Guys, bigger wheels mean less torque, and less power, and slower off the line performance, ah, and lower MPG...looks aside, what good are they?!?

[sboy]

where's the pic of your ride?

[brickhardmeat]

I put 18's on my Golf and hated it. I want no more than 15 inchers on this car personally. I have seen 16's that love very nice though and it is tempting, but, no.

[nick1983]

Car is in the shop. Pics will come soon

[ChinoCharles]

Guys, bigger wheels mean less torque, and less power, and slower off the line performance, ah, and lower MPG...looks aside, what good are they?!?

OH MY GOD DO YOU EVER SHUT UP!?!?!

Post some picturessss!

[spkrman]

pics or ban?

imo

[Blenjar]

buy a camera at walgreen and post it up.

-- Blen

[PetersRedYaris]

OH MY GOD DO YOU EVER SHUT UP!?!?!

:laugh: :bellyroll: :laugh:

[LoudYar]

OH MY GOD DO YOU EVER SHUT UP!?!?!


Bahahahahahahahaha!:bellyroll:

[Spades]

Guys, bigger wheels mean less torque, and less power, and slower off the line performance, ah, and lower MPG...looks aside, what good are they?!?

:laughabove: Why? Because they look cool...

So, question...why oh why, if you dont like rims, do you find yourself looking at and posting comments in a thread about rims? I mean, its like a blind man going into a Lenscrafters and saying he hates glasses. No one really cares that it slows out cars down...its a flipping yaris...it barely has 100hp...the 0.01 second loss in our quarter mile time of 17 seconds is not really going to be missed...and at my average of 46mpg in the city, I can stand to loose a mpg or two in the name of style.

In summary...go talk out of your ass in a thread with people who care about your opinion. :thumbsup:

[flint_mica_manual]

Guys, bigger wheels mean less torque, and less power, and slower off the line performance, ah, and lower MPG...looks aside, what good are they?!?

Not if the overall diameter with tires and wheels is the same as stock -- which is how it is usually set up. It won't make a bit of difference.

And larger wheels will give you better MPG -- not worse. Simply put, a larger wheel and tire travel a further distance after one rotation than a smaller diameter wheel and tire -- requiring less rmps for said distance traveled -- at a cost of torque and "power".

You could say weight would make the difference. The reason "alloy" wheels were invented was to save weight. But they can weigh more than stock wheels -- in either case, you may be sacrificing MPG when acceleratingly, but when the car is up to speed the added weight will tend to stabilize the car at said running speed -- further saving gas.

That all said, I got 15" wheels with the normal amount of rubber for no other reason than to lessen the chance of curbing the wheel. There are many reasons to choose wheels. "off the line" is one -- one I don't care much for -- but if you wanted to get the best MPG from your wheels and tires -- get the biggest thing that will fit under the strut.

[Nimble]

Not if the overall diameter with tires and wheels is the same as stock -- which is how it is usually set up. It won't make a bit of difference.

And larger wheels will give you better MPG -- not worse. Simply put, a larger wheel and tire travel a further distance after one rotation than a smaller diameter wheel and tire -- requiring less rmps for said distance traveled -- at a cost of torque and "power".

You could say weight would make the difference. The reason "alloy" wheels were invented was to save weight. But they can weigh more than stock wheels -- in either case, you may be sacrificing MPG when acceleratingly, but when the car is up to speed the added weight will tend to stabilize the car at said running speed -- further saving gas.

That all said, I got 15" wheels with the normal amount of rubber for no other reason than to lessen the chance of curbing the wheel. There are many reasons to choose wheels. "off the line" is one -- one I don't care much for -- but if you wanted to get the best MPG from your wheels and tires -- get the biggest thing that will fit under the strut.


Guys, don't take this as hating on big wheels.

But really, that post is so erroneous it hurts to read.

Larger tire rolling diameter *increases* mpg? ok, see I thought rolling a heavier, bigger tire that's farther from the axis of the wheel would take more power, not less.

"Get the biggest thing that will fit under the strut? You've got to be kidding me right? So 21's with truck sized tires are good for performance and mileage? news to me.

You might try *thinking* in a common sense way before posting. Lighter, smaller tired, wheels will ALWAYS outperform a larger, heavy wheel, with big tires. Ever hear something called friction? You know, how it takes more power to turn a wider wheel? Ok good.

[Nimble]

Not if the overall diameter with tires and wheels is the same as stock -- which is how it is usually set up. It won't make a bit of difference.

So, all things being equal (car, tire size, ride height, air pressure), a 15" wheel that weighs 17lbs will give better performance and mileage than some 10lbers? NOTE: this is not a hard question, if it was, supercars wouldn't place such a large emphasis on making any weight that's unsprung as light as possible.

[churp]

Nick....congrats on the wheels looking forward to pics.....don't know why this post turned out this way tho!!!!!! :headbang:

[hasher22]

yay were all saying YAY when there are no pics....

cant wait to see them :) weeeeeeeee i feel like pie

[redyaris]

OH MY GOD DO YOU EVER SHUT UP!?!?!


LOLOL

[nick1983]

Pic Is Up

[Slummy]

The wheels look good, not too flashy.:thumbsup:

[nick1983]

Thanks

[Black Yaris]

I think I am going to get 15 with 205/50. I'd like to see some pics of what you've installed.

not a good idea.... way too small of a tire

[brickhardmeat]

205/50 R15 not too small



I know you say 205/55 R15 or 225/55 R15 but I checked the tire calc and205/50 R15 is by no means way too small. It is within the reccomended tire size. I'll register slightly over the speed limit. Sure 205/55 R15 is a bit closer to stock but...



here we go...

Lots of guys running 205/50 R15:headbang:

now I aint puttin' no shity looking 40's on there:barf:

[brickhardmeat]

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4761&highlight=skool

[Nimble]

205/50 R15 not too small



I know you say 205/55 R15 or 225/55 R15 but I checked the tire calc and205/50 R15 is by no means way too small. It is within the reccomended tire size. I'll register slightly over the speed limit. Sure 205/55 R15 is a bit closer to stock but...



here we go...

Lots of guys running 205/50 R15:headbang:

now I aint puttin' no shity looking 40's on there:barf:

Correct. It's not *way* too small, sure it's a bit too small, but it better suits a Yaris size/weight than a 225/50 15, that's for sure.

Ideal *sizing* for the Yaris (IMO of course) is 195/55 15 or 195/50 16. If a sticky 195/55 15 was good enough for a 195 hp Integra Type R from Honda race engineers, it's ok for a Yaris.

[brickhardmeat]

Thanks Nimble but you are well aware that the Tire Nazi knows all.

[eco]

I really dont want to do this,but I will.There is no diffrence if you have 15's or 17's,if the diameter is the same,everything else will be the same,because the car is still turning a 205,or 215.But for the most part,people go wider when they go bigger,which does add weight and rolling resitence,thats where most people loss performance,I myself use 35psi on all tires to help balance out the diffrence,Ive got 17's instead of my stock 15's.
Think of it this way,you could have a 1 incn rim,the rest just tire,but the diameter is still 215,the engine would act the same,ofcourse you wouldnt stay on the road long;),so that said,I actually feel alot more stable with my 17's and skinny rubber,and just as quick as stock,actually alot quicker now.

[y-rag]

Looks great! But when you say amazing difference, what exactly are you referring to? I've got the shit stock Bridgerock 14s and am very unsatisfied with the handling...want to upgrade to alloys but to what size? 15,16 or 17s? And why?

[Black Yaris]

y-rag what kind of driving do you do? and i can help answer those questions for you

[Black Yaris]

205/50 R15 not too small



I know you say 205/55 R15 or 225/50 R15 but I checked the tire calc and205/50 R15 is by no means way too small. It is within the reccomended tire size. I'll register slightly over the speed limit. Sure 205/55 R15 is a bit closer to stock but...



I retract my previous statment and added 205/50R15 to the Official Tire Guide :thumbsup:

[y-rag]

Looks great! But when you say amazing difference, what exactly are you referring to? I've got the shit stock Bridgerock 14s and am very unsatisfied with the handling...want to upgrade to alloys but to what size? 15,16 or 17s? And why?

[y-rag]

Well thanks, I mostly drive somewhat aggresively, if there's a corner I like to push it a bit. But with stock 14s it feels like I've reached the limit just at about what feels like the speed I'd like to easily do. The rest of the time is, you know, Seattle traffic etc. with some shit ass bumpy road surfaces. I'm thinking that the 17s might not have enough give for our pot holes, but maybe the 16s would be a reasonable compromise between handling and bump absorbtion. What d'ya think?

[Black Yaris]

16's may be the happy inbetween for you then
here are the recommended tire sizes with the rim widths from my Tire Guide

6-7" - 195/50 or 205/50
6.5-7.5 - 205/50 or 215/50

PM C2 Auto about some 16inch wheels they have a good selection at great prices for YW members
PM C2 AUTO (http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/private.php?do=newpm&u=398)

[y-rag]

I do appreciate the help. Will I be missing much in the handling department between 16 and 17? Are there more choices of rims and tire brands in 17s. What's cheaper? ( I am one cheap ass SOB.)

[y-rag]

Did you mean 205/45 16? Like on your chart? By the way, great chart, thanks for the leg work.

[redyaris]

I do appreciate the help. Will I be missing much in the handling department between 16 and 17? Are there more choices of rims and tire brands in 17s. What's cheaper? ( I am one cheap ass SOB.)

Im with you on the cheap ass part...Theres nothing cheap in 17's i'll tell you that. Price some 17" performance tires too. Prepare for sticker shock.

BTW, what did you guys buy the Yaris for? Putting 17 and 18s on this car is like putting a supercharger on it. Defeats the purpose IMHO.

[Black Yaris]

Did you mean 205/45 16? Like on your chart? By the way, great chart, thanks for the leg work.

17's are probibly going to be the cheepest way out, the tire sizes are the most common there are many decent 17" tires for $60-80 each, and they still ride pretty nice, and you have enough side wall to drive on shit-ass Ohio craters...

16's (believe it or not) are lets common of tire sizes and are going to cost more

[nick1983]

Cheap tires. Try Walmart, some of them carry a brand called NEXEN That is what I am running. They work great.

[Black Yaris]

Im with you on the cheap ass part...Theres nothing cheap in 17's i'll tell you that. Price some 17" performance tires too. Prepare for sticker shock.

BTW, what did you guys buy the Yaris for? Putting 17 and 18s on this car is like putting a supercharger on it. Defeats the purpose IMHO.

Not sure where you are getting ripped off for your tire prices, but 17" tire prices in our size are hella cheep for something decent, you want top of the the line you are going to pay top of the line price.... for the most part there is a hugh market fighting for you buisness that has driven the price down on the preformance entry level tire market

17 are actaully the happy medium in preformance (that I have found so far) they seem to about the same as my 15's yet they look SOOOO much better

[formerechoowner]

Up graded from 15's to 16's, 185/60/15 to 205/50/16. The difference is amazing. Tires worked out to be almost the same height installed. No rubbing.

The tires are Made by Nexen. Really good brand for really good cost.

nick1983,
I have a Black Yaris Sedan and I'm looking to replace the stock tires/hubcaps. Where did you get your rims & tires?

Thanks,
Troy

[spkrman]

Up graded from 15's to 16's, 185/60/15 to 205/50/16. The difference is amazing. Tires worked out to be almost the same height installed. No rubbing.

The tires are Made by Nexen. Really good brand for really good cost.

Not bad, looks "stock".

[kwiken]

My turbo Vios which is really just like a Yaris 4 door was built by TRD and comes with 7.0J 205/45 R16 with Michelin tyres.The overall circumference is much the same as 15ins wheels and tyres but my lower profile 7ins tyres stick like glue in really fast sweepers.The car is also lowered by TRD 30mm with no problems whatsoever.This car handles great and is 100lbs lighter than a Yaris.My problems are having more power than needed getting of the line which causes the front wheels to bounce and bottom out unless you are real smooth on the throtle.(this is with TRD modified suspension)When being real smooth it also helps to control the torque steer you get with the 143hp I have.So how do the the guys with 180 plus hp drive there cars fast I don't know.But I recommend my tyre and wheel set up for a great feel to the car and I'm fairly sure they will work a treat on a Yaris.

[y-rag]

What do you mean by the 17's "seem to about the same as my 15's"? In what way? Handling? Price? Smoothness?