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deebrown
03-29-2007, 05:26 PM
I'm having a problem with the yaris being blown around in the wind on the highway - i was thinking about putting sandbags or free weights in the trunk of the car (it's a sedan) to weigh it down (and thus hopefully making it more stable). Has anyone done this and, if so, what was the loss on mpg?
pc1x1
03-29-2007, 05:31 PM
Common sense more weight = less mpg. What you can do is a ratio, Power/Weight = Power/Weight + sandbacks, then check MPG and multiply it by your normal MPG.
Nutzoids
03-29-2007, 05:35 PM
Common sense more weight = less mpg. What you can do is a ratio, Power/Weight = Power/Weight + sandbacks, then check MPG and multiply it by your normal MPG.
You so SMART!
:evil:
Been there, done that! and i have a LB it's scary man! 120K/h and the wind moves you!!!
KSIbucky
03-29-2007, 07:36 PM
what i have seen is tires that respond to wind but idk theres not much you can do. you would have to put a lot of weight wouldnt you?
Spades
03-29-2007, 07:53 PM
I have roughly 150 pounds of stereo junk in the trunk of my sedan, and all it helps to do is increase the body roll of your car.
If you want to stop getting pushed around by crosswinds, you have a few options:
A. Buy a bigger car
B. Lower that beech!
C. Follow option B and also buy some bigger rims & really wide low profile tires
D. This option is if you refuse to lower it...buy wide low pro tires and rims to mount them on, buy sway bars,struts,and a strut tower brace...these will help stiffen the car up a little bit and perhaps help with the wandering in crosswinds.
E. Just forget the other options and lower it because it is the best option second only to option A.
BailOut
03-29-2007, 07:58 PM
I'm curious if you folks experience higher winds or just different vehicle behavior than I do.
The area I live in gets 90 MPH winds several times per year and lots more days of gusts up to 75 MPH and while I have definitely felt the wind resistance and the Yaris leaning, maybe even being pushed a touch, I have never even come close to getting blown out of my lane, or even moved that much in it.
Is it just the leaning or feeling of being pushed that bothers you folks so?
brickhardmeat
03-29-2007, 08:01 PM
I lowered mine 1.9 front and rear and it made a huge difference on the highway. Much better.
deebrown
03-29-2007, 08:41 PM
Ok, can anyone tell me how to lower the car and how expensive such a process is? Also, my last car was a dodge neon (very low to the ground and no wind problems) but i was constantly "bottoming out" the car as it was so close to the ground - do any of you who have lowered your car have this problem?
Thanks,
Dee
I'm curious - there's a couple of threads on this subject and a number of posters suggesting that you fit swaybars..
Do your North American Yarii not come with an OEM front swaybar??!?
Here's a pic of the one that came standard on my liftback:
brickhardmeat
03-29-2007, 09:27 PM
chris did a "how to" on his tanabe spring install, whatever springs you use go in the same, you could probably get them installed for about 200. dunno, luckily I have a friend who helped me out, tools and all, it's not a big deal just don't let the car fall on your head
Spades
03-29-2007, 09:43 PM
I haven't checked to see if my US sedan comes equipped with a front swaybar...I assumed it hadn't due to the low cost of the car and pronounced body roll.
I haven't noticed much problem being pushed around from lane to lane either...I notice a strong gust puts some resistance on the steering wheel, but it never was strong enough to even come close to moving me into another lane.
sf180th
03-29-2007, 11:07 PM
I have a Sedan and yes the American models to come with a front sway bar.
Spades
03-29-2007, 11:13 PM
yes, but does yours have the swaybar because it is an S coupe? or do they all come with them?
Why don't you turn your wheels to full lock and take a look Spades :)
mkaresh
03-31-2007, 03:18 PM
It's not so much a function of weight as the design of the body. Apparently the upper body of the Yaris catches the wind rather than deflecting it around the car.
I'm surprised to hear this is a problem with the sedan, because it's not as tall as the hatch and presents less area to crosswinds.
deebrown
03-31-2007, 04:16 PM
"I'm surprised to hear this is a problem with the sedan, because it's not as tall as the hatch and presents less area to crosswinds."
Can the problem then, in your opinion, be corrected by lowering the car?
mkaresh
03-31-2007, 08:06 PM
Probably not to a significant extent. You can't lower it more than an inch or two. The shape of the upper body is probably the largest factor, and you can't do anything about that.
HTM Yaris
03-31-2007, 08:18 PM
Fold the mirrors back ..... you'll be surprised ..........you're welcome :)
And put all those SUV's to use .....draft like hell .....:)
eTiMaGo
03-31-2007, 11:25 PM
Probably not to a significant extent. You can't lower it more than an inch or two. The shape of the upper body is probably the largest factor, and you can't do anything about that.
sure you can :biggrin: :laugh :bellyroll:
churp
03-31-2007, 11:54 PM
:clap: :drool: :thumbup: :drool: :clap:
Great chop eTiMaGo!!!!!
Lillydot
04-02-2007, 12:00 AM
I'm curious if you folks experience higher winds or just different vehicle behavior than I do.
The area I live in gets 90 MPH winds several times per year and lots more days of gusts up to 75 MPH and while I have definitely felt the wind resistance and the Yaris leaning, maybe even being pushed a touch, I have never even come close to getting blown out of my lane, or even moved that much in it.
Is it just the leaning or feeling of being pushed that bothers you folks so?
my car shifts lanes when the winds gust really high. i live by a beach, and sometimes i might be going only about 40 and my car is getting pushed. when i'm speeding down the pike at about 70 mph or so, i've almost gotten into an accident more than once. the faster you drive, the less room you have for error, so even getting pushed a few inches can be a scary experience. my last car was almost the same shape (focus 2dr hatchback) and had performance tires. i didn't have a problem with being pushed by the wind as much then. i think i'm gonna try switching the tires and see how that works out.
brickhardmeat
04-02-2007, 12:11 AM
Chop Top would be way cool ...but I'd have to sit on the floor
spkrman
04-02-2007, 03:44 PM
wider rims/tires... the stockers are junk, particularly on the highway.
I'd imagine going lower would help too.
spkrman
04-02-2007, 03:45 PM
Is it just the leaning or feeling of being pushed that bothers you folks so?
I assume so?
Grab the wheel, and stay in your lane, I never had any issues with it... even when passing a semi on a windy day 100% stock.
With the dubs on/225 tires, much better!
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