View Full Version : CAI Vs Insurance
pc1x1
03-30-2007, 09:15 AM
I will consult various insurances, however does a CAI increase or screw up your insurance rate? Whats your experience on the matter? :eyebulge: .
Moose
03-30-2007, 09:18 AM
Do not tell your insurance company about a cold air intake- your insurance company is obligated to cover up to $1000 in modifications (if you have full coverage). Only after that point do you tell your insurance company about them- if you want coverage on them- and be prepared for your rates to skyrocket.
Telling them about a CAI at this point would make them assume you want coverage on it- and you would pay.
jamal1984
03-30-2007, 10:04 AM
man i don't even know about this thing, never told my insurance about CAI b4.
KSIbucky
03-30-2007, 10:19 AM
Some people don't even tell there insurance about a turbo and nos. Maybe if you had a super tuned ride and raced and if you lost your mods you would lose money but just don't tell them
pc1x1
03-30-2007, 11:07 AM
What about the exhaust same thing? This is bad, :(, got to convince the parents now!
Moose
03-30-2007, 01:47 PM
What about the exhaust same thing? This is bad, :(, got to convince the parents now!
Same thing- just have them look at the policy- it outlines all of those details.
Spades
03-30-2007, 02:58 PM
what they don't know won't hurt them, and if you are afraid of your insurance company somehow finding out, then do some "stealth" mods.
hack your airbox and put in a K&N, get custom 2" catback exhaust but instead of putting a stainless steel 5" ricerboy muffler on the end, throw a quite smooth-flowing Dynomax Superturbo muffler on the end with a 2" stainless tip. Install a grounding kit yourself, use black wiring and wire loom so no one knows what it is. Get a short throw shifter and lowering springs and wheels, that stuff wont mess up your insurance unless you ask for those to be covered on your policy.
There are things you can do to get performance out of your car without everyone knowing it has been modified.
OxyG3nE
03-30-2007, 03:14 PM
i ask to cover my modification but they said i put like more than 1000$ in the car they will break my contract hhu.. just the wheel is more than that so i just shut my mouth
Pavel Olavich
03-30-2007, 05:48 PM
CAI sees to add so little performance to a car, and is fairly cheap, why even mention it?
pc1x1
03-30-2007, 09:17 PM
CAI sees to add so little performance to a car, and is fairly cheap, why even mention it?
I just don't want to get in trouble heh, I don't see a problem with the Cai and Exhaust, I mean I can cover to replace them if theres a problem. My biggest worry, is if I get into an accident or a problem, that they blame the CAI, or Exhaust, as the cause and don't cover me. I know its ridiculous but I also know those insurance guys are shady enough to do anything to screw me over. I don't like the fart cans either so thats not a problem, I heard the Tanabe exhaust isn't loud, so I am planning on ordering it.
Spades
03-30-2007, 09:53 PM
well, there are two methods...the sleeper method I mentioned above, small exhaust, hacked airbox, little things like that. Or there is method two...what the insurance company doesn't know wont hurt them method,lol.
Honestly, there isn't much that could go wrong with modifying your car because it is mostly engine based performance, in a accident the body will mostly be what takes the damage, and if something happens to the modifications you would just cover it out of pocket anyway.
The main issue is that the insurance company may use the modifications as a excuse to say that you were "hotrodding" the car and therefore were driving recklessly...they may try to pull that card if you put it in a ditch or around a telephone pole.
pc1x1
03-30-2007, 11:17 PM
Well, its a Yaris, I wouldn't race it, and if I did, it would be in an abandoned place, or by the country side, ranches etc, where there is no people, or cops or problems, I care about my safety, and what potentially can happen to others. I just like to represent Florida's youth in saying, not all of us lack common sense ;), and race like idiots, on fart cans. Though I want them to prove I hot rodded a car to +5 HP... Although they could consider the TRD stickers those I hear add +10HP
Black Yaris
03-30-2007, 11:21 PM
Do not tell your insurance company about a cold air intake- your insurance company is obligated to cover up to $1000 in modifications (if you have full coverage). Only after that point do you tell your insurance company about them- if you want coverage on them- and be prepared for your rates to skyrocket.
Telling them about a CAI at this point would make them assume you want coverage on it- and you would pay.
That $1000 thing may be your policy in your state, some policies only will cover OE installed equipment ONLY, I got screwed with this once... so check your policy if it even covers additional modification or not
Black Yaris
03-30-2007, 11:29 PM
I just don't want to get in trouble heh, I don't see a problem with the Cai and Exhaust, I mean I can cover to replace them if theres a problem. My biggest worry, is if I get into an accident or a problem, that they blame the CAI, or Exhaust, as the cause and don't cover me. I know its ridiculous but I also know those insurance guys are shady enough to do anything to screw me over. I don't like the fart cans either so thats not a problem, I heard the Tanabe exhaust isn't loud, so I am planning on ordering it.
ok, I would love for an ins company to prove in court that some guy running a red light and hitting you was caused by your intake and exaust... only problem you may have is engine damage if you buy a CAI that has a filter in the wheel well that does not have a by-pass... then you could be SOL... but if you are lookin into preformance, but not looking for something too loud, go to your local exaust shop and have the get rid of the ristrictive 1.5 inch exaust after the cat and replace with 2 or 2.25 and throw a high flow muffler on... cost just the same as most axle backs you get online and you get much better preformance, and not anymore loud
Spades
03-31-2007, 04:06 PM
ok, I would love for an ins company to prove in court that some guy running a red light and hitting you was caused by your intake and exaust... only problem you may have is engine damage if you buy a CAI that has a filter in the wheel well that does not have a by-pass... then you could be SOL... but if you are lookin into preformance, but not looking for something too loud, go to your local exaust shop and have the get rid of the ristrictive 1.5 inch exaust after the cat and replace with 2 or 2.25 and throw a high flow muffler on... cost just the same as most axle backs you get online and you get much better preformance, and not anymore loud
I agree. I would still go the stealth route and just not report any mods to your insurance company. I doubt intakes would even be a issue if you got hit by someone running a red light. What I was suggesting, that if you wrapped it around a telephone pole the insurance company may try to suggest that the performance modifications showed your driving habits...that the reason you wrecked was because you were driving at unsafe speeds, ect. It is really a stretch though and I dont know of any insurance company that has pulled that card yet.
Nimble
04-01-2007, 03:47 PM
What I don't get is why the heck you guys are worrying about telling your insurance company anything mod related? That sounds like the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
Black Yaris
04-01-2007, 03:56 PM
What I don't get is why the heck you guys are worrying about telling your insurance company anything mod related? That sounds like the most retarded thing I've ever heard.
If you get in an accident and your policy does not cover aftermarket equipment unless you add extra coverage, you can get screwed. It won't matter to most ppl
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