Lowering my 2005 echo hatch?? Help

[Radvr6t]

Hey I am a new user to this forum, I recently picked up a 2005 Toyota echo hatchback here in Vancouver Canada. I will be using it as a daily driver but of course be modifying it along the way:)

After one week of owning it I have switched the seats from base model and upgraded it to "RS" . Its much nicer and way more comfortable!

http://www.auto123.com/05photo/toyota/echohatchback5dr4dr-le.jpg

http://www.bridgeportmotors.com/05_Toyota_Echo_Hatch_left.JPG

ANYWAYS.....

I'm looking to put some lowering spring in the car but am unsure what to go for. Believe it or not there is not a whole lot of USEFUL info on these cars....



Few reputable brands I have found:

Tien S tech springs --http://www.ebay.com/itm/TEIN-S-TECH-LOWERING-SPRINGS-TOYOTA-ECHO-00-06-2DR-4DR-/270779881453

B&G = http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-G-S2-LOWERING-SPRINGS-00-05-TOYOTA-ECHO-/350860011007


ANY RECOMMENDATIONS?



I'm thinking about running a 16x8 et 25 wheel on the car so dont want to slamm it. run a 205/40r16 tire

[Ryze268]

I'd go for the teins but the drop isnt even

I also wouldn't recommend 16x8 wheels with lowering springs

[Radvr6t]

I'd go for the teins but the drop isnt even

I also wouldn't recommend 16x8 wheels with lowering springs


What do you have in your car?

Suggest Coilovers instead of lowering springs?

16x8 et 25 , too aggressive? I'm just getting ideas here I currently have the stock 14x6s with Winters on rocking stock suspension!.....

[IllusionX]

stock have 14x5 or 14x5.5. i don't remember, but they are definitely not 14x6.

You might want to look at something like 16x6.5 or 16x7 ET35-38 instead.

[Radvr6t]

stock have 14x5 or 14x5.5. i don't remember, but they are definitely not 14x6.

You might want to look at something like 16x6.5 or 16x7 ET35-38 instead.

I'm just going by what Toyota and the tire shop said.....lol maybe it is smaller, I'm unsure.

As for 16x8, I did find some info as one of the members "1.5" on here is running:
16x8 et15 which will poke out 10 mm more than the setup im looking at. I also am not going to be anywhere close to that low. The tire size he is running is also way undersized so he doesn't rub and maintains lowz. 165/45 r 16 nankang.



http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49153&d=1353957070

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49161&d=1353963814

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49160&d=1353963814

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=49404&d=1356624733


There isn't alot of First Generation Echo guys on here that have much done to their hatchbacks. Im thinking I should still follow the general rule and do Suspension before wheels that way I can outweigh my options.

Im not heart set on 16x8 et 25 I just know of a awesome wheel that I have not seen done on these cars. It will also match the silver very well if its pulled off nicely:thumbup:


Back to square one what suspension should I look at? LOL

[Ryze268]

What do you have in your car?

Suggest Coilovers instead of lowering springs?

16x8 et 25 , too aggressive? I'm just getting ideas here I currently have the stock 14x6s with Winters on rocking stock suspension!.....

I have a frankenstein coilover setup in my car, I'm waiting for my 15x6.5 wheels to come back from the paint shop.

Here's a guide that I found helpful:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5021

If you do decide to go with the 16x8s I do recommend coilovers :thumbsup:

[Radvr6t]

Ive been in contact with Robert Tam @ Garage five here in Vancouver Canada. He just sent me an email with regards to coilovers.

We do have the Tein SS coil overs on sale for $800 + tax. Max lowering is 2.1” front and 1.8” rear.

00-06 TOYOTA ECHO NCP12L, SUPERSTREET COILOVERS WITH TOP MOUNTS, TEIN, PART # DSL48-2UAS3, $ 800 + TAX


Regards,

Robert Tam

Garage Five Performance

3-11600 Bridgeport Rd

Richmond, BC, Canada

V6X 1T2

Anyone had experience with these? are they worth it? I've looked online and it looks like a good price!

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdetails/Tein/suspension/coilovers/Super_Street_with_Pillowball_Upper_Mounts/4632

http://www.andysautosport.com/scion/2004_9999_xa/full%20coilover%20systems/coilovers/full_coilover_systems/tein/tein01020484.html


http://www.andysautosport.com/images/tein/tiein_ss-ek1.jpg

[IllusionX]

If you can get your hands on a set of coilovers for the Echo.. get it. They are rare now and you won't be able to find much else.

[WeeYari]

Anyone had experience with these? are they worth it? I've looked online and it looks like a good price!


Quality wise, you can't do much better than Tein, nor can you easily beat that price (for new).

[Radvr6t]

If you can get your hands on a set of coilovers for the Echo.. get it. They are rare now and you won't be able to find much else.

Yeh I spoke with Rob this morning its the last set they have in stock and are selling. Reason for the price is they are discontinued through Tien....

Anyhow for 800 I might have to jump on it just outweighing my options due to the fact its winter!

[IllusionX]

http://montrealracing.com/forums/showthread.php?320540-April-2006-2004-Toyota-Echo-RS

check this hehe

[Radvr6t]

http://montrealracing.com/forums/showthread.php?320540-April-2006-2004-Toyota-Echo-RS

check this hehe

Not bad, very clean and simple:thumbup:


On wednesday for fitment I am going to be test fitting some 16x7.5 ET 38 RH cups with 195 45 r16 sdrives
http://dubberz.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=70298.0;attach=287 70;image


Some video action for you guys and gals---MY summer car :) Corrado VR6 turbo>>>>http://youtu.be/9WAPPZ9dgyc

[Radvr6t]

Stock
https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/q83/s720x720/1003861_10152205027219881_1360846663_n.jpg



Some 14x7 diamond racing pokage

without hubcaps
https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/935562_10152205028304881_2113259241_n.jpg

with hubcaps
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q85/s720x720/1460123_10152205029104881_1006305811_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1005382_10152205029149881_337960189_n.jpg



16x7.5 RH cups et 38 trial
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/q80/s720x720/996657_10152205031379881_498078804_n.jpg

[johnny_vitz]

I have 16x7 +40 with 205/40/16 on mine
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww258/johnny_vitz/P1000278.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/user/johnny_vitz/media/P1000278.jpg.html)
http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww258/johnny_vitz/P1000275.jpg (http://s725.photobucket.com/user/johnny_vitz/media/P1000275.jpg.html)
Best fit I have had so far, they did rub in the back. I have Tein coilovers all the way down in the back and two or three rings from the bottom in the front.

[Radvr6t]

I have 16x7 +40 with 205/40/16 on mine

Best fit I have had so far, they did rub in the back. I have Tein coilovers all the way down in the back and two or three rings from the bottom in the front.

Looks GREAT!!!:w00t:

How do you like the coilovers? nice ride?> not terribly bouncy?

I put stock wheels back on cause we are driving to Whistler today.

Will just start another "build thread" in the other section!

[johnny_vitz]

How do you like the coilovers? nice ride?> not terribly bouncy?


Its a fairly good ride, soft springs though...not very good for Track use. Im looking to get new coilovers, maybe next year, with a lot stiffer springs and adjustability. Leaning towards KW Variant 3's.

[Radvr6t]

I have some Schmidt Revolution 15x6 I am currently refinishing for the car

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