Found this 2014 Mitsubishi Mirage ES yesterday

[Hershey]

Sharp little car .

[Hershey]

The price is $16,805 with destination charge .

[kimona]

Nice clean lines.

[fnkngrv]

Personally I think that even with clean lines the styling is dated by at least 5 years and the price unless the tech inside warrants better should be dropped by a few grand. About the only thing that I really care for of the exterior is the front bumper cover. I like the somewhat toned down upper grille hole.

[Hershey]

The cranberry red is good color for most vehicles .

[fnkngrv]

The cranberry red is good color for most vehicles .

I do like that shade of red :smile:

[MadMax]

Nice color, but its "face" looks like a fish!

[yougojay]

Nice color, but its "face" looks like a fish!

It's very Koi, get it...'coy' :bellyroll::bellyroll::bellyroll:

Seriously, it looks very Yarisinian - too expensive, tho... :biggrin:

[nookandcrannycar]

Nice color, but its "face" looks like a fish!

LOL. I think from that angle it looks like a pretty angry emoticon. Overall, I like the looks...but as others have noted, the price is too high.

[kimona]

LOL. I think from that angle it looks like a pretty angry emoticon. Overall, I like the looks...but as others have noted, the price is too high.

This is from AutoGuide.com:

So why would anyone buy a Mitsubishi Mirage? Because it is dirt-freaking-cheap. The Mirage DE costs $13,790 ($12,995 plus a mandatory $795 destination fee) and includes power windows, mirrors and locks, a 4-speaker stereo with a USB port, seven airbags (including one for the driver's knees), piano-black trim, and -- get this -- not just air conditioning, but automatic climate control.

[nookandcrannycar]

This is from AutoGuide.com:

So why would anyone buy a Mitsubishi Mirage? Because it is dirt-freaking-cheap. The Mirage DE costs $13,790 ($12,995 plus a mandatory $795 destination fee) and includes power windows, mirrors and locks, a 4-speaker stereo with a USB port, seven airbags (including one for the driver's knees), piano-black trim, and -- get this -- not just air conditioning, but automatic climate control.

I meant (and I thought everyone else did) that the specific example the OP found was too expensive. IIRC, there was a previous thread about this vehicle and one of the focal points was the low base price.

[yarisugi]

Not fond of 3-cylinder cars.

[Hershey]

Liked the Ford Festivas we had with the 1.3 ltr. ( Mazda 121 ) , tough engines . Seen it with a friend who had an '88 , took a lot of abuse for 150,000+ miles . Didn't change the factory fill oil until 30,000+ miles . Not sure an aluminum block could endure that , had the cast iron . Here's the window sticker for the Mirage ES ( use ZOOM to see print better ) . You never pay sticker . Should be able to buy it for less than $16,000 . Wish the hatchbacks would have the airbag for rear impact like that of the Scion IQ to protect passengers in back seat . Not much space between rear seat and hatch door . I agree with KIMONA that you get a lot for money . Can't go wrong with a 10 yr. / 100,000 mile powertrain .

[Hershey]

There's a $750 rebate that ends 12/2 . States price is also negotiable . This is at their website .

[Hershey]

Found this review from AUTOGUIDE for the C.V.T. and manual , http://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mitsubishi/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-review-3502.html . Not liked for the ride and comfort , but neither was the 2012 Yaris by Consumer Reports .

[nookandcrannycar]

Found this review from AUTOGUIDE for the C.V.T. and manual , http://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mitsubishi/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-review-3502.html . Not liked for the ride and comfort , but neither was the 2012 Yaris by Consumer Reports .

:thumbsup: Very informative linked review. I'd rather have the manual transmission and do without (from the factory) the 7 features the SE adds and save $2200.00 ($1,000 plus $1,200).

[kimona]

:thumbsup: Very informative linked review. I'd rather have the manual transmission and do without (from the factory) the 7 features the SE adds and save $2200.00 ($1,000 plus $1,200).

Sure... but the CVT gets significantly better gas mileage (generally one of the main reasons to buy an econobox) than the manual transmission (which doesn't sound too impressive). And... it looks like the CVT can be added (+$1000) to the base model DE which comes surprisingly well equipped.

[nookandcrannycar]

Sure... but the CVT gets significantly better gas mileage (generally one of the main reasons to buy an econobox) than the manual transmission (which doesn't sound too impressive). And... it looks like the CVT can be added (+$1000) to the base model DE which comes surprisingly well equipped.

The car I had before my Yaris (from end of August 2001 to October 7, 2006) was a 2001 Suzuki Swift (New to 151k + miles). It had a 1.3 liter engine and a manual transmission. I always felt that it needed the manual transmission to ensure enough potential acceleration should the need arise in an emergency situation. During my tenure with the Swift, I (for what reason I don't remember) was able to drive the same car with an automatic transmission. This experience confirmed my earlier conclusion. With an even smaller engine, I would be worried the same would be true with the Mitsubishi. Yes, I know a CVT isn't a traditional automatic, but it isn't a manual either.

I agree, the DE comes surprisingly well equipped.

[nookandcrannycar]

Sure... but the CVT gets significantly better gas mileage (generally one of the main reasons to buy an econobox) than the manual transmission (which doesn't sound too impressive). And... it looks like the CVT can be added (+$1000) to the base model DE which comes surprisingly well equipped.

Also, I guess I just have a rosy opinion (from my own experience...and from what I've read from YW member experiences) re squeezing significantly better than EPA numbers from a manual :smile:.

[Hershey]

Here's another test drive of the C.V.T. ( 45.8 m.p.g. mixed ) and the manual ( 44 m.p.g. similar to C.V.T. ) , http://cars.about.com/od/mitsubishi/fl/2014-Mitsubishi-Mirage-review.htm . May have to check them out soon .

[nookandcrannycar]

Here's another test drive of the manual and C.V.T. , http://cars.about.com/od/mitsubishi/fl/2014-Mitsubishi-Mirage-review.htm . May do the same soon .

If you do, definitely post your impressions. I had a 91 Dodge Colt (a rebadged Mirage as you know -- IIRC you had 1 or 2 Mirage/Colts) that I bought new. When it had just over 92k (IIRC) miles on it, the engine management computer went out. The part was about $700.00. The clutch was almost completely gone as well. I only paid $5988.00 + T & L for it new (and I also had an Acura Integra) so I didn't repair it and just drove the Integra. I can't remember if I sold the Colt to a junkyard or just let it the towing company have it (I did that with two other cars at different times and both times the towing company was fine with that because each time the car was worth enough more than the tow).

[Hershey]

We had a '90 hatchback . Didn't like it all that well . Knee would hit the dash and didn't do well in winter , even with studded snows . Sold it . Liked the '80 ( 1.4ltr. + 1.6 ) > '87 ( 1.5 ltr. ) better . Also had a EAGLE Summit sedan ( lots of room ) with the 5 speed manual for a short time . Sold it and that car went on for many years for that person .

[Hershey]

Here's a video of a SE with the manual , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kjYtmvKno . Starts driving at 2:44 in the video . Looks like fun .

[nookandcrannycar]

Here's a video of a SE with the manual , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0kjYtmvKno . Starts driving at 2:44 in the video . Looks like fun .

I like the steering wheel controls. Are those USB ports on the console? In post 21, I neglected to finish my thought. I included the repairs my Colt/Mirage needed because I wonder about reliability past 100k miles. I also wonder, re part of the warranty extending for 10 years, will Mitsubishi still be in the U.S. market in 10 years (re passenger cars)?

[nookandcrannycar]

^^^^^ Almost forgot, is the car in the 'Manual SE Video' directly above the same in the U.S. (the dealer in the video is in Calgary) ?

[Hershey]

Quite sure it is .

[nookandcrannycar]

Quite sure it is .

:thumbsup:

[Hershey]

Here's a review for the 2013 in the U.K. . Got very good F.E. , but does have dislikes . http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-mirage-2013-road-test/? and http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/owner-reviews/mitsubishi/mirage-2013/ .

[Hershey]

Another test drive of the '14 in Canada . http://mirageforum.com/forum/showthread.php/636-Gas-mileage-MPG-test-2014-Mirage-CVT-vs-5-speed-%28sub-urban-Ottawa-route%29 .

[Hershey]

The colors available in Canada . http://www.vickarmitsubishi.ca/2014-mitsubishi-mirage.aspx?lng=2 .

[tk-421]

Wow. That car looks quite a bit like the Nissan March. Not sure if they offer it in the States, though.
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I guess I like the Mirage a bit more, now that I see them side by side...

[kimona]

^^ New Nissan March looks very nice. I like it. The earlier March was so cool!

[nookandcrannycar]

My local Mitsubishi dealer has 3 of them, so I drove over to take a look. The info section for each car didn't include which transmission each car had, but the mileage numbers for the manual were included with the info for each car. After arriving, I peeked into each car and all 3 = CVT, not manual :rolleyes:. They had two of the D series (a Purple one, and a Black one) and one of the more expensive ES (a Silver one). The Silver and Purple ones did not have a 'pac' sticker, and the Black one did have a 'pac' sticker (adding about $1500 for some sort of protectant :rolleyes:). The two D series ones had alloy wheels that were listed as a promotion on the factory sticker and weren't added to the price. IIRC, the website also included a $750.00 factory rebate for each of the three.

I really like the dash. The layout, the way it 'sits' high and away from you, and most other things about the dash. I like the steering wheel. The seats aren't constricting, but they are pretty poor when it comes to support. As far as I could tell, all 3 had 14" alloy wheels (too small). Under the hood, it didn't look like the wiring, especially where it meets the parts it is routed to, is very well protected. The air intake (looked like a horn on top of the engine :laugh:) reminded me of old carburated vehicles. The engine sounded okay (I didn't drive one). The seat pulls (to release the rear seats, allowing the backs to be folded down) for some reason, are on the back of the seat. With the hatch closed and the package shelf in place, you can't release the seats (I tried). The pull angle (once you are even able to grab the pulls) won't allow for release. Perhaps they think this will discourage theft (:rolleyes:, bad design IMO). The driver door sounds very solid when closing it (I didn't try again with the window down). Can't think of any other impressions at the moment.

P.S. Oops, by 'info section for each car' I mean info section for each car on the dealer's website

[Hershey]

Thanks for your take . The 14" tires don't bother us . The cars in the past had "12 ( Festiva ) to 14" ( '99 Corolla ? ) . Maybe next weekend we'll take a few for a test drive and see what you're referring to with the seats , etc..

[nookandcrannycar]

Thanks for your take . The 14" tires don't bother us . The cars in the past had "12 ( Festiva ) to 14" ( '99 Corolla ? ) . Maybe next weekend we'll take a few for a test drive and see what you're referring to with the seats , etc..

:thumbsup: FWIW, I only sat normally in the driver's seat. I sat sideways (and then kneeled) on the back seat while trying to pull the seat release.

[Thirty-Nine]

Cant wait to see how these fair against the Chevy Spark.

[wooverstone8]

There is a $500 factory rebate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/wooverstone8/005_zps2fdabad6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wooverstone8/media/005_zps2fdabad6.jpg.html)

I'm sure you can get a much better deal on a mirage next year though.

[nookandcrannycar]

There is a $500 factory rebate.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/wooverstone8/005_zps2fdabad6.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/wooverstone8/media/005_zps2fdabad6.jpg.html)

I'm sure you can get a much better deal on a mirage next year though.

My local dealer lumps the factory rebate and loyalty rebate together and just refers to it as a factory rebate :rolleyes:. Auto dealers have quite a bit of pull in Austin :rolleyes:.

[Hershey]

Mitsubishi site states $750 before negotiating price . http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/mirage/14/showroom/overview.do then click on SPECIAL OFFERS . $12,500 isn't that shabby for the DE . This must be the manual ? Maybe the rebate is different state by state or region . :iono:

[Hershey]

Went to KORUM Mitsubishi site of Puyallup , Wa. and states $750 rebate before the Owner Loyalty Discount . Clicked on NEW VEHICLES , then click on VEHICLE DETAILS , and then on the Up To $750 In Rebates box . Must be a misprint , there's a Mystic Black DE with a dealer discount of $3.496 and a $750 rebate . List is $15,995 , their price is $11,749 . Then there's an ES ( Plasma Purple ) for $14,181 . List is $17,865 less their discount of $2,934 and the $750 rebate from Mitsubishi .

[nookandcrannycar]

Mitsubishi site states $750 before negotiating price . http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/mirage/14/showroom/overview.do then click on SPECIAL OFFERS . $12,500 isn't that shabby for the DE . This must be the manual ? Maybe the rebate is different state by state or region . :iono:

Or the dealer near wooverstone8 is just more honest than the dealer near me or the manufacturer. IF that's the case....ugh.

[wooverstone8]

Mirage CVT or 5-speed: which should you get for best gas mileage/fuel economy?

http://mirageforum.com/forum/showthread.php/552-Mirage-CVT-or-5-speed-which-should-you-get-for-best-gas-mileage-fuel-economy

[Hershey]

Probably the C.V.T., the other doesn't like manuals :frown: . The manual would give a little more go off a start . I find manuals more fun . Keeps you on your toes as well .

[Killchain]

^^ New Nissan March looks very nice. I like it. The earlier March was so cool!

Wow, I forgot about that car. It was though my favorite rental car in Central America way back in the day.

[wooverstone8]

. The manual would give a little more go off a start . I find manuals more fun . Keeps you on your toes as well .

I concur. Especially with a car that has a small engine.

[JumpmanYaris]

Man I used to own a 91 Mirage sedan lol nothing close to this

[mr9865]

Just test drove a Mirage. My current is 2012 Yaris. The Mirage is very good for the price with the auto climate control, power windows, locks standard. The instrument cluster is where the Mirage is lacking. It just looks cheaper, it is missing an analog fuel gauge. Also the trip computer screen is smaller and does not provide real time mpg consumption, just the average. I would say the trunk is bigger on the Mirage as well as deeper. It would also appear that it gets slightly better mpg's too. As many reviews mentioned, the wind noise is very noticeable on the highway. If that and the instrument cluster were a little nicer it would be a sure buy for me.


My choice would be a Red DE manual with fog lights.

[nookandcrannycar]

I find manuals more fun . Keeps you on your toes as well .

I agree :thumbsup:.

[nookandcrannycar]

I concur. Especially with a car that has a small engine.

I agree :thumbsup: (see my post # 18 on this thread).

[nookandcrannycar]

Man I used to own a 91 Mirage sedan lol nothing close to this

I had a 91 Colt/Mirage hatch. I agree. Nothing like the current Mirage.

[nookandcrannycar]

Just test drove a Mirage. My current is 2012 Yaris. The Mirage is very good for the price with the auto climate control, power windows, locks standard. The instrument cluster is where the Mirage is lacking. It just looks cheaper, it is missing an analog fuel gauge. Also the trip computer screen is smaller and does not provide real time mpg consumption, just the average. I would say the trunk is bigger on the Mirage as well as deeper. It would also appear that it gets slightly better mpg's too. As many reviews mentioned, the wind noise is very noticeable on the highway. If that and the instrument cluster were a little nicer it would be a sure buy for me.


My choice would be a Red DE manual with fog lights.

I forgot about the deeper load floor...something that I did notice. I think this might largely be the case re, IIRC, the new Mirage doesn't have a spare tire? If the Mirage gets tossed about more in the wind than the Yaris does, that would be a deal breaker for me. The instrument cluster issue you mention wouldn't bug me.

[mr9865]

It would take a few weeks for me to break my habit of always watching the instant mpg. All in all I still feel the Yaris is a better car. I just wish we could get an upgraded engine that could match the mirage mpg

[nookandcrannycar]

the Yaris is a better car. I just wish we could get an upgraded engine that could match the mirage mpg

I agree :thumbsup:. Wouldn't want to sacrifice any reliability to get those extra MPGs, though.

[Hershey]

We just watch the overall m.p.g.s' of the Eco-Meter along with the bars . Same for the "11 FIT which came with it .

[Hershey]

Consumer Reports first drive and impression of the Mirage on November 14th , 2013 @ 9:00 a.m.. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/11/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-es-first-drive-review/index.htm .

[nookandcrannycar]

Consumer Reports first drive and impression of the Mirage on November 14th , 2013 @ 9:00 a.m.. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/11/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-es-first-drive-review/index.htm .

Given that we're talking about Consumer Reports, I expected an extremely negative review containing the most condescending text possible.....but I didn't expect it to be THAT negative :biggrin:!

[wooverstone8]

Here's one from Top Gear:

http://www.topgear.com/uk/mitsubishi/mirage/road-test/driven

[Hershey]

Well , we took a Plasma Purple ( :redface: ) ES with the CVT for a test drive of 12 miles ( 44 at start ) that included a step hill up a street , some stop/go ( 4 lights , 4 stop signs ) traffic on a busy business district road and a stint on a thruway . The car went up the steep hill with ease but with enough engine noise , being a 1.2 come to expect it . Then turned left onto a street and then right down another taking a few sharp corners coming to a stop at the busy 2 lane road . Turned right onto it coming to 3 consecutive red lights . The 1st red light the car made a mild thunk while coasting to a stop ( engine shutoff ? ) . Then got onto a on ramp after 3rd light to get to the thruway . The steering does take some getting acquainted to as it is sluggish . It had plenty of umph when applying a fair amount of pressure to the pedal . The car did well merging onto the interstate without feeling insecure . The CVT glides with very little resistance . Did pass a CUV with ease and kept up with others . The ride was fairly comfortable and the brakes did quite well . Will have to try out a 5 speed manual and another CVT . Don't fully agree with all the negativity of C.R. and Topgear , a bit harsh , for each their own . Hopefully a few others here will test drive a Mirage and give their take on it . The cabin had plenty of headroom in the front , the rear had less . My head was about an inch or less from touching it .

[Hershey]

Picked these up at the dealer . Here's the Thunder Gray they have . It looks of a dark green at a certain angle . That was squeezed in between other cars and didn't want to bother them with it .

[nookandcrannycar]

Yeah, they could have thought of a better name for that color :thumbdown:. Definitely enough headroom in the front (I'm between 6'3" and 6'4" and have a tall torso for my height..and ugh..shorter legs....so I 'sit tall'). I didn't sit normally in the back (trying to release the seats with the hatch closed and the package shelf in place).

[nookandcrannycar]

Almost forgot, good review re test drive :thumbsup:.

[Hershey]

Have to pull on the ribbon on the back of seat to fold them down . Could be a bit of a hassle when reaching through the rear door entry . Not easy to find , the salesman had to point them out .

[nookandcrannycar]

Picked these up at the dealer . Here's the Thunder Gray they have . It looks of a dark green at a certain angle . That was squeezed in between other cars and didn't want to bother them with it .

My rep handed me this brochure (unsolicited). I got the feeling he was kind of at the end of whatever length of rope they were giving him. He wasn't a very good rep, so lack of production would be an understandable result.

[wooverstone8]

Excellent review Hershey :thumbsup:. BTW How was the rear visibility?

[Hershey]

The rear visibility didn't seem any worse than the Yaris H.B.. Forgot to mention there was wind noise from the front when on the interstate.

[nookandcrannycar]

Have to pull on the ribbon on the back of seat to fold them down . Could be a bit of a hassle when reaching through the rear door entry . Not easy to find , the salesman had to point them out .

...and if (one of multiple scenarios that might require pulling the back seat forward (package shelf in place) without getting out of the car) you are in a super tight parking space in the rain and want to get something out of that covered (as in the Yaris) area you are SOL, as one can (with much effort) reach back and eventually grab either of the ribbons, but they won't release from that angle.

[nookandcrannycar]

and states $750 rebate before the Owner Loyalty Discount.

:thumbsup: I think you may have hit the nail on the head...different rebates for differents states.

[nookandcrannycar]

their price is $11,749

That is really inexpensive. Has your relative who is a mechanic looked under the hood of a new Mirage? I'd love to know what he/she thinks re the wiring to visible parts/systems (especially at points where wires connect to a part) under the hood....is such wiring secure enough and well protected enough from 'the elements'/weather?

[Hershey]

That price is in the Northwest , we're in the Northeast . The Mirage we drove is 70 miles away so the relative wouldn't be able to observe what's under the hood . I forgot to locate the oil filter . The oil weight wasn't stamped on the oil cap like that of Toyotas .

[nookandcrannycar]

That price is in the Northwest , we're in the Northeast . The Mirage we drove is 70 miles away so the relative wouldn't be able to observe what's under the hood . I forgot to locate the oil filter . The oil weight wasn't stamped on the oil cap like that of Toyotas .

:thumbsup:

[Lippitt]

I agree on the idea that it's an awesome color, would mind having that color on my car which is probably what I'm going to do soon

[Hershey]

AUTOGUIDE test drive and review . http://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mitsubishi/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-review-3502.html .

[nookandcrannycar]

AUTOGUIDE test drive and review . http://www.autoguide.com/manufacturer/mitsubishi/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-review-3502.html .

:thumbsup:....I wonder how much of an adverse effect larger larger tires and wheels would have on MPG?......Or if one would then have clearance issues with even a slight increase in size?

[wooverstone8]

Here's a recent video review. The video is 6 minutes long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmODzB_yMRc

[nookandcrannycar]

Interesting. He doesn't mention MPG/KPL at ALL. He also (while displaying the competitors) calls a Fiesta 'the Focus'. Included one of the few pics I've ever seen of the Fit's (what he calls) 'Magic Seat' flipped up.

[junorico24]

Yeah, it's an alright car for the price. I'm impressed with the trunk space for a little car. You might take a look at the Nissan Micra and Suzuki alto. There's the Vw up which is overpriced for what you get. Typical Euro car lol. Anyway, toyota doesn't have an entrant in the segment except maybe the aygo which is BLAND.Have a look at the Daihatsu Mira or Cuore as well. They make 3 cylinder FUN pocket rockets.Unfortunately Toyota pulled the plug in selling Daihatsu's in some parts of the world.:mad::iono:

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Daihatsu-Mira-eS-Japan-March-2012.jpg

http://www.japancaraccess.com/common_data/image/1522770094F.jpg

[nookandcrannycar]

Yeah, it's an alright car for the price. I'm impressed with the trunk space for a little car. You might take a look at the Nissan Micra and Suzuki alto. There's the Vw up which is overpriced for what you get. Typical Euro car lol. Anyway, toyota doesn't have an entrant in the segment except maybe the aygo which is BLAND.Have a look at the Daihatsu Mira or Cuore as well. They make 3 cylinder FUN pocket rockets.Unfortunately Toyota pulled the plug in selling Daihatsu's in some parts of the world.:mad::iono:

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Daihatsu-Mira-eS-Japan-March-2012.jpg

http://www.japancaraccess.com/common_data/image/1522770094F.jpg

Great knowing a bit more about the cars you mention :thumbsup:. The OP lives in the U.S. and, unfortunately :frown:, not one of these cars is offered to us in the U.S. :frown:

[Hershey]

The rebate has been bumped up to $1,000 ( our region ) before a possible dealer discount .

[Brett!]

I had planned to buy one of these for the mpg, proximity keyless entry, and push button start (would make my life so much easier) but ended up with a 2010 yaris 3dr base model for $7,500 with 80k miles and a 1yr warranty. I am not upset with my purchase. I do wish I had the same technology, but at least nothing can break on my model. I am enjoying my Yaris and may never buy a non toyota again. I am also a member of the mirageforums, as I was seriously considering buying one. I just simply could not spend $16k since I have just purchased a new civic. :cry:


edit: I wanted to add that my test drive of a 5spd was excellent, shifter felt good and when I let off the clutch the car would easily move (unlike my Yaris!) and I did not have a problem with the interior at all, although the backseat looks like it came out of a 2001 echo... The back spoiler felt cheap and was wobbly... I don't think it would stay attached to car for long. some parts did feel cheap, but I enjoyed the car.

[tk-421]

I had planned to buy one of these for the mpg, proximity keyless entry, and push button start (would make my life so much easier)

keyless entry:
http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9565

push button start:
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Engine-Start-button-kit-enginestart-used.htm

:respekt:

[nookandcrannycar]

I don't know if Brett went to the same dealership I did but, as of a few days ago, all of the same vehicles that were there during my visit were still there......and I think at least one more had been added.

[JustPassinThru]

It's a VERY attractive package. And I'm perversely drawn to the three-pot engine.

The mileage is a draw, also - in my mature years, I'm irredeemably cheap.

Slick package, high mileage, three-cylinder mill...and I like the CVT in theory; never had one...

BUT.

It's not a Toyota. Toyota to Mitsubishi, were like GM's premium lines to American Motors. Both were Japanese, or American, made - but quality can vary wildly.

I had rented a Mitsubishi years ago. It was, after my Toyota truck of the time, irredeemably crude and tinny. That WAS years ago, but...beware.

Toyota performs near-miracles in engineering. But that's Toyota, not Japanese origin.

[nookandcrannycar]

It's a VERY attractive package. And I'm perversely drawn to the three-pot engine.

The mileage is a draw, also - in my mature years, I'm irredeemably cheap.

Slick package, high mileage, three-cylinder mill...and I like the CVT in theory; never had one...

BUT.

It's not a Toyota. Toyota to Mitsubishi, were like GM's premium lines to American Motors. Both were Japanese, or American, made - but quality can vary wildly.

I had rented a Mitsubishi years ago. It was, after my Toyota truck of the time, irredeemably crude and tinny. That WAS years ago, but...beware.

Toyota performs near-miracles in engineering. But that's Toyota, not Japanese origin.

Unless I'm inadvertently leaving a vehicle out, there are only 3 American vehicles owned by all of the different households in my family --- 1 Ford Escape, 1 Saturn SUV (one of the last ever made), and one huge RV (the biggest gas guzzler of all the vehicles). The household with the RV also owns the one car with better MPG than my Yaris --- one of the last 5-speed manual Civic Hybrid sedans ever made. Different Lexus models (E,R,G, L series, etc...no I series) far outnumber any other make, and are AS RELIABLE as my Yaris. Toyota within our family = remarkable.

[JustPassinThru]

Unless I'm inadvertently leaving a vehicle out, there are only 3 American vehicles owned by all of the different households in my family --- 1 Ford Escape, 1 Saturn SUV (one of the last ever made), and one huge RV (the biggest gas guzzler of all the vehicles). The household with the RV also owns the one car with better MPG than my Yaris --- one of the last 5-speed manual Civic Hybrid sedans ever made. Different Lexus models (E,R,G, L series, etc...no I series) far outnumber any other make, and are AS RELIABLE as my Yaris. Toyota within our family = remarkable.

Well, it depends on the brand.

Honda has been as reliable and well-engineered as Toyota. Honda, in fact, was ahead of Toyota in a number of ways, years back.

Nissan/Datsun was as well made as Toyota for many years. It was in product planning where Nissan fell behind; and how they rate today I don't know. I had a 1995 Hardbody to replace my 1979 Datsun PL620; I was not impressed with the engine or performance.

That was my last Nissan.

Lexus, of course, is a brand of Toyota - like Scion. Quality can expected to be the same; some Lexii and some Scions are sold worldwide as Toyotas.

As to Ford products...Fords have been hit-or-miss on quality...for decades. Some products were very good; some were garbage. But you pays your money and you takes your choice; and a car purchase is more money than I'm willing to gamble on.

Is a Mitsubushi going to be a good buy? I'd be inclined to try it; but I'm not in the market. I wish them well; I like seeing a product like this model come to be.

[wooverstone8]

Here's a review for the manual transmission version. The review is fairly positive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Isb1OUhuV8

[wooverstone8]

My local dealership has a new green Mirage on the lot. They added aftermarket rims, tinted the windows and taillights.

http://www.larsonmitsubishi.com/auto/new-2014-mitsubishi-mirage-de/1051418/

[nookandcrannycar]

Here's a review for the manual transmission version. The review is fairly positive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Isb1OUhuV8

I like that color more than the other colors I've seen.

[nookandcrannycar]

My local dealership has a new green Mirage on the lot. They added aftermarket rims, tinted the windows and taillights.

http://www.larsonmitsubishi.com/auto/new-2014-mitsubishi-mirage-de/1051418/

I wonder what effect those rims would have on fuel economy? They might help re steering mushiness issues, etc. that other reviewers have found fault with.

[nookandcrannycar]

Well, it depends on the brand.

Honda has been as reliable and well-engineered as Toyota. Honda, in fact, was ahead of Toyota in a number of ways, years back.

Nissan/Datsun was as well made as Toyota for many years. It was in product planning where Nissan fell behind; and how they rate today I don't know. I had a 1995 Hardbody to replace my 1979 Datsun PL620; I was not impressed with the engine or performance.

That was my last Nissan.

Lexus, of course, is a brand of Toyota - like Scion. Quality can expected to be the same; some Lexii and some Scions are sold worldwide as Toyotas.

As to Ford products...Fords have been hit-or-miss on quality...for decades. Some products were very good; some were garbage. But you pays your money and you takes your choice; and a car purchase is more money than I'm willing to gamble on.

Is a Mitsubushi going to be a good buy? I'd be inclined to try it; but I'm not in the market. I wish them well; I like seeing a product like this model come to be.

I saw a 2014 IS series Lexus on the road for the first time the other day. The 2014 looks much more like the 2014 Corolla than the previous generation IS series looked like the previous generation Corolla.

[brg88tx]

Here's a recent video review. The video is 6 minutes long. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmODzB_yMRc

I hate "reviews" like this. they assume everyone buys cars to drag race. this idiot "reviewer" never mentioned mpg, the whole idea of this car.

[Hershey]

Here's a Mirage owners forum .http://mirageforum.com/ .

[nookandcrannycar]

Here's a Mirage owners forum .http://mirageforum.com/ .

Very interesting. I read the 'First 1000 miles' review (by a member of that forum, with a link on forum homepage). Great fuel economy during that period :thumbsup:, especially the 52 MPG at the lowest speed he sampled. I also liked that he mentioned (in the post + follow up replies) roads in California where the suspension would provide a less than ideal ride :biggrin:.

1,388 units in December for the Mirage. Isn't that quite a few more than the last month (October? November?) reported to us for the Yaris by Thirty-Nine ?

[Hershey]

Another test drive with a thorough review . http://jalopnik.com/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-the-jalopnik-review-1472224538 .

[nookandcrannycar]

Another test drive with a thorough review . http://jalopnik.com/2014-mitsubishi-mirage-the-jalopnik-review-1472224538 .

:thumbsup: Surprised that the jogging stroller fits behind the back seat. I also enjoyed quite a few of the comments, especially the one suggesting a used $5,000 ECHO instead, and those espousing 'GEO Metro love'.

[Hershey]

Not so bad of a price . Would think a little more of a dealer discount to be applied . This is a DE .

[Hershey]

DE with 5 speed manual at $11,999 . $1,000 from Mitsubishi and dealer discount of $791 . Tempting , no ? :drool:

[nookandcrannycar]

DE with 5 speed manual at $11,999 . $1,000 from Mitsubishi and dealer discount of $791 . Tempting , no ? :drool:

It's inexpensive, but I wonder if it would be a good value...? In the past, whenever I've sat in a Fit (unsure of which model years), I've always been conscious about how much I didn't like the dash. I sat in one for a fair amount of time at the Houston Auto Show last weekend, and I didn't feel that previous 'ugh' way about the dash at all. I started thinking about alternate uses (other than a bicycle) for a flipped up or one side flipped up magic seat...a cooler with ice in it, etc. I think if value and manual transmission were the two most important factors (which are two of the things that might be on someone's mind re the price and equipment choice in the ad you posted), I would probably pay the difference and get a 2013 Fit before getting the Mitsubishi. It will be interesting to see the new 2015 Fit when it comes out.

[Hershey]

Yup , the '15 FIT should be interesting . I think they're bringing a FIT sedan to here as well . There's also a small C.U.V. hybrid that's based on the FIT platform . So many choices out there among car manufacturers . Enough to make your wallet spin :confused: .