Retrofit question

[Black_griffin6]

Hey guys,
I am installing the projector retrofit from Garm on my Yaris liftback, everything is going well except i'm not sure what a certain part is and google isn't telling me anything.

It's called an "Angel eye driver" and they look like this: http://i.ebayimg.com/t/2Pcs-Replacement-CCFL-Angel-Eye-Inverters-Drivers-Projector-Halo-Ring-Inverters-/00/s/MTE4MVgxMTgx/z/TiUAAMXQKLdR2ET9/$(KGrHqN,!okFHWEi6-6WBR2ET8ZDfQ~~60_35.JPG

None of the DYI's i've seen use this, and since i'll be splicing the angel eyes into my city lights, I won't be using these.
So what are they for and how do I wire them?
Can they be used for the 7LED part of the kit? I've never seen anyone use that.

[CTScott]

Those look like ballasts to drive CCFL "angel eyes" (which require a high voltage, as they are fluorescent).

[IllusionX]

If OP's kit came with LED angel eyes.. it probably is a simple voltage regulator for the LEDs...

[CTScott]

If OP's kit came with LED angel eyes.. it probably is a simple voltage regulator for the LEDs...

LEDs just require a current limiting resistor (which should be built into the LED array), so a regulator would not be necessary. If the angel eyes are LED, then the module would not be needed.

[CTScott]

Did the OP purchase this kit with the seven color LED angel eyes?
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Projector-HID-kit-H4-Gen-3-prj-h4.htm

[Black_griffin6]

Did the OP purchase this kit with the seven color LED angel eyes?
http://shop.microimageonline.com/Projector-HID-kit-H4-Gen-3-prj-h4.htm
Technically yes. I bought the kit from thebarber and he said it was the same exact kit that Garm is currently selling, which is that one. Now that i'm comparing the picture of what Garm has on his website though...i'm not so sure.

However, from all the DYI's and how to's i've seen I have never seen this part used.
The projectors come with 2 wires coming from them, one of them is unlabeled and has the same female connector as the wiring harness, the has the female connector labeled "CCFL".

[Black_griffin6]

Here's a few pictures of what i'm talking about:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1392436_10151965991657719_1076006784_n.jpg

https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q82/s720x720/1426725_10151965991202719_950703537_n.jpg

https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1458511_10151965991172719_1928142348_n.jpg

[CTScott]

OK. So, it is not the same as Garm's kit, which is why it doesn't match the DIY's that you have seen. That wire that is labeled as CCFL confirms my initial suspicion that the module is a CCFL ballast.

So, it looks like to light up the angel eyes you simply connect the red and black input wires of the ballast to the + and ground that you want to feed the angel eyes and plug the other end of the ballast into the CCFL wire.

[Black_griffin6]

Man, that sucks. Here I thought I could just go by the DYI. XD

So how can I wire them to the city/parking lights like in the DYI?
I really don't know much about wiring, do I connect the red wire to the positive battery connection and the black to a ground?
Or do I splice the positive and negative into the city light connection?

What about the other wire with the female connection? Any idea what that is?

[CTScott]

Man, that sucks. Here I thought I could just go by the DYI. XD

So how can I wire them to the city/parking lights like in the DYI?
I really don't know much about wiring, do I connect the red wire to the positive battery connection and the black to a ground?
Or do I splice the positive and negative into the city light connection?

What about the other wire with the female connection? Any idea what that is?

Have you checked with your vendor to see if he has a DIY or at least some documentation on what connects to what within the kit?

[Black_griffin6]

I asked him what that CCFL ballast was. That was on Friday.
Haven't heard back from him since.

Guess i'll shoot him another PM.

[thebarber]

the ccfl "ballast" from post 1 connects to the ccfl cord from the projector. you tap the red/black wires from the ccfl ballast to your parking lights to run the halos with your parking lights

the other plug goes into the wiring harness which was also in the box. it controls the flap inside the projector to open for your high beams

make sense?

edit, no splicing of the wiring harness included! the only thing you'll have to do is use the wire taps with the kit to tap into your parking lights to turn the halos on/off

[1.5]

Try him on MI he's more active there

GL that kit looks awesome and im dying to see the end product

[Black_griffin6]

the ccfl "ballast" from post 1 connects to the ccfl cord from the projector. you tap the red/black wires from the ccfl ballast to your parking lights to run the halos with your parking lights

the other plug goes into the wiring harness which was also in the box. it controls the flap inside the projector to open for your high beams

make sense?

edit, no splicing of the wiring harness included! the only thing you'll have to do is use the wire taps with the kit to tap into your parking lights to turn the halos on/offOkay, I got the CCFL figured out. Thanks man!

But how does the high beam control plug into the wiring harness? They both appear to be female, i've tried to connect them and they're both the same connection; one doesn't go in the other.

My first picture is the one of the wiring harness, it's the same connector as the projector.
The second picture is a picture of the connector i'm talking about, they're both exactly the same.

Unless I didn't see a part in the box?

It does look awesome! It looks even better in person, I just wish I knew more about wiring and didn't have to ask such silly questions. XD

[thebarber]

Hmm, I have one here that'll work if you can mail me back the other harness...

[thebarber]

Or you could hardwire it...or use crimp connectors with male/female ends

[Black_griffin6]

I'll check out those crimp connectors, see if I can use those.
Thanks a bunch Barber. :smile:

EDIT: Okay, one more thing.

Do you have a wiring diagram? Or some way to tell which wire goes where? The wiring harness has one red wire which has to be positive, and then 2 black wires. I don't know which one is negative and which one is a ground.

Edit again: I have found another problem. While test fitting one of the projectors in the passenger's side housing, the way the cutoff/beam will end up will leave the light at a 45 degree angle, like this: /
Not sure if this is because they are left and right, I haven't tested the other one yet, but it looks like they're exactly the same.

[thebarber]

Tilt the cutoff so its flat

Red wire goes to + on battery, black wires are both grounds whether you ground at the battery or the frame

[Black_griffin6]

So there's no negative connection? I always thought you had to have positive and negative.

How do I tilt the cutoff?
I'm sorry I have so many questions, this is my first projector retrofit/HID experience. XD

[thebarber]

if you turn the projector in the headlight you should be able to seat it so the cutoff is flat, no?

keep in mind, if you remove the bulb and look through the projector you can see the plate for the high/low beams....you should notice that everything will look upside down...

in past, ive used a flashlight to set the projector angle in the headlight....just sit the headlight on a table flat as it would sit in your car...might require some propping

aim it at a nearby wall and adjust the angle of the projector

[Black_griffin6]

if you turn the projector in the headlight you should be able to seat it so the cutoff is flat, no?

keep in mind, if you remove the bulb and look through the projector you can see the plate for the high/low beams....you should notice that everything will look upside down...

in past, ive used a flashlight to set the projector angle in the headlight....just sit the headlight on a table flat as it would sit in your car...might require some propping

aim it at a nearby wall and adjust the angle of the projector
I did notice everything looked upside down.

I was referring to the 3 pointed clip in the back that comes with the projector, it fits into the OEM housing and when it's seated in there it's at a strange angle.
Would you recommend not using it?

[thebarber]

hmm, its been a while since ive done one...i forgot they had that for the H4 seat

if the whole thing is at a 45* angle, something is wrong....

[Black_griffin6]

I suppose I could just work without it? I don't think it should move.

[thebarber]

It shouldn't move once tight...

[Black_griffin6]

Got them installed. I'll try and get some pics once I get them adjusted.