Yaris WRC

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.racer.com/toyota-building-yaris-world-rally-car/article/324348/

Would be cool if they actually do it. Not that we would get it here anyway. :cry:

[ilikerice]

You know. I really hope they follow thru with this. I mean, a Mini Cooper awd and fiesta awd... I don't see why the yaris could not be a good platform to convert to awd for WRC.

[kou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w27Z2-aKc_Q
At around 4:40 you will see the yaris wrc car.

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w27Z2-aKc_Q
At around 4:40 you will see the yaris wrc car.

Not the same trim level as they will do for WRC.

[ilikerice]

I dont even care if they never make a production awd yaris. I just wanna see it compete with evo, fiesta, wrx and Citroen. I hope Loeb signs on driving it. That would be epic. Highly unlikely, but awesome

[mojoyaris]

I have a friend who's rallying the B-spec Yaris in the US. UP in Canada we just won the 2wd overall at the Big White winter rally last weekend against Porsche, Saab, VW's, Fords, ae86's, Celica's and a gaggle of Subaru's that had some problems like Max Riddle.
What was the car? A production stock engine 1nzfe Yaris ncp91. Who Co-drove/Navigated? Ex Team Subaru rally Navigator and Verena Mei's current Co-driver Leanne Junnila. Who drove? a 73 year old man named Taisto Heinonen who's old rally Corolla is sitting in a museum in Finland. He was the Toyota Team Rally driver in the 80's who competed against Buffum and Millen for North American championship points. At this rally they came 6th overall. Quite a feat considering this car was stock. There maybe rumours about a cool Yaris rally car for 2014, but you might have to come to Canada to check it out. Or maybe we'll be down in the US for the Olympus/nameless rally for some fun.

[ilikerice]

http://www.bubblews.com/news/1735444-toyota-are-back-in-wrc

Confirmation. Excited

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.bubblews.com/news/1735444-toyota-are-back-in-wrc

Confirmation. Excited

I would not call that set in stone... Notice the date on that story is the same as my original post and news feed, and its essentially word for word the same release. :wink: Rerunning old news is not a conformation. :laugh:

I would imagine if it happened at all it would be along with the next Yaris update.

[ilikerice]

True. I cant read German so i didn't get that far

[Jason@SportsCar]

True. I cant read German so i didn't get that far

Neither can I, the date gave it away. :laugh:

[ilikerice]

:bonk: nice catch . Thanks for clarifying

[Jason@SportsCar]

Update: http://www.racer.com/index.php/rally/345-latest-stories/102020-toyota-begins-testing-new-wrc-yaris

[ilikerice]

UGh.. 2017.. so far away

[Jason@SportsCar]

UGh.. 2017.. so far away

Makes sense though, the current chassis does not have much time left, so wait till you get the next gen car.

[xnamerxx]

Didn't Toyota have a lifetime ban from WRC back in the 90s?

[Jason@SportsCar]

Didn't Toyota have a lifetime ban from WRC back in the 90s?

Only one year. With the lack of manufacturers I am sure they would forget about an past indiscretion just to get another car out there.

[ilikerice]

Makes sense though, the current chassis does not have much time left, so wait till you get the next gen car.

So is this a confirmation that a 4th gen Yaris is in the makes?

I was eyeing the 3rd gen and was thinking about a possible trade in... But now I will wait to see this possible 4th gen...

[Jason@SportsCar]

So is this a confirmation that a 4th gen Yaris is in the makes?

I was eyeing the 3rd gen and was thinking about a possible trade in... But now I will wait to see this possible 4th gen...

I have no idea what you are talking about. :burnrubber:

[ilikerice]

Ok, if I am right, don't reply... If I am wrong, then reply "no"

There is going to be a 4th gen yaris released to the States around 2017, give or take a year or 2.

[xnamerxx]

I'm just waiting for the day when the Yaris is powered by a 1ZR in the states...which will probably be never.

[ilikerice]

It may one day.. but it will be as big as the matrix by then and weigh about 2800 lbs..

[xnamerxx]

I'm not so sure, Toyota has been moving away from that kind of engine development, and moving towards hybrid drivetrains for their smaller gas vehicles, and leasing diesel drivetrains from other oems for their international diesel cars.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say in 10 years unless Toyota radically changes itself its newer engine options are either going to be hybrid or eol gas engines.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Ok, if I am right, don't reply... If I am wrong, then reply "no"

There is going to be a 4th gen yaris released to the States around 2017, give or take a year or 2.

I am completely confused by your statement and still don't know what you are talking about. :wink:

[Jason@SportsCar]

I'm not so sure, Toyota has been moving away from that kind of engine development, and moving towards hybrid drivetrains for their smaller gas vehicles, and leasing diesel drivetrains from other oems for their international diesel cars.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say in 10 years unless Toyota radically changes itself its newer engine options are either going to be hybrid or eol gas engines.

Diesel seems like a long shot, at least here in the States. Most of the people there that I have talked to realize (outside of the freaks that think you need a crew cab dully diesel to tow 500lbs, and misguide tree-huggers) understand the break even point for a diesel is beyond the period of time most people keep cars - in most cases its worse than the break even on a hybrid.

Outside of more hybrids, the inevitable direct injection and Valvematic, I doubt there will be much change.

[xnamerxx]

By diesel I mean sub 2.5l passenger car engines for Europe, where the diesel prices are more favorable than here. Trucks are a different conversation, since the US is a bit unique in that aspect.

I believe currently Toyota uses BMW and AVM for their current engines, but are going to be switching to Mazda pretty soon at least for the sub 2l category. It completely makes sense to me as to why Toyota doesn't develop diesel engines, since only 1 market uses them and they can get a much better return on their investment by using hybrid drivetrains.

But I your likely correct, DI and valvematic engines will probably start popping up soon along with newer hybrid engines for the more popular vehicles.

[Jason@SportsCar]

By diesel I mean sub 2.5l passenger car engines for Europe, where the diesel prices are more favorable than here. Trucks are a different conversation, since the US is a bit unique in that aspect.

I believe currently Toyota uses BMW and AVM for their current engines, but are going to be switching to Mazda pretty soon at least for the sub 2l category. It completely makes sense to me as to why Toyota doesn't develop diesel engines, since only 1 market uses them and they can get a much better return on their investment by using hybrid drivetrains.

But I your likely correct, DI and valvematic engines will probably start popping up soon along with newer hybrid engines for the more popular vehicles.

Waiting for my Hybrid Tundra. :cool: Loving the 2014, but city mpg with 4wd hurts.

[xnamerxx]

I'm waiting on the 5L diesel engine. But I've only heard rumors ;)

[Jason@SportsCar]

I'm waiting on the 5L diesel engine. But I've only heard rumors ;)

Don't hold you breath.

[xnamerxx]

Don't hold you breath.

Well it'll be on the Nissan Titan soon enough.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Well it'll be on the Nissan Titan soon enough.

That extra Tq will help in a truck that already burns up rear ends. :laugh:

[why?]

Waiting for my Hybrid Tundra. :cool: Loving the 2014, but city mpg with 4wd hurts.

they tried. They couldn't stop the batteries from melting during towing. If you'd take one and promise never to try and tow anything, then they might sell you one. Otherwise they have issues.

[Jason@SportsCar]

they tried. They couldn't stop the batteries from melting during towing. If you'd take one and promise never to try and tow anything, then they might sell you one. Otherwise they have issues.

I have towed with the Escalade Hybrid and the Highlander, they can make it work.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PNUF0rO3IHU/USugfdJwcBI/AAAAAAAABQE/ybkT3P9DrX0/w1532-h860-no/2013-02-24_17-15-24_399.jpg

[xnamerxx]

I think the issue of that Toyota doesn't have any Atkinson cycle larger displacement engines, and using an electric assist motor would require them to lease less efficient technology from another mfg. That and I don't think the existing CVT transmissions are durable enough. I'm sure they've been working on something though.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Just to get this back on track, a shot of the car testing.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-9/1979646_545789518867514_593416131_n.jpg

[why?]

hopefully we can eventually get some goodies because of it. I remember the Celica rally car, awesome stuff.

[kou]

http://www.rallyemotion.it/8899_wrc-video-esclusivo-le-prime-immagini-della-toyota-yaris-wrc/

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.racer.com/rally/345-latest-stories/102171-fia-won-t-keep-toyota-waiting-on-rules

[xnamerxx]

Too bad Toyota won't build anything that exciting for the states.

[why?]

if Akio Toyoda really believes they need to bring back the sports car, they will. The 86 is a good start, and this car they are making with BMW could also be awesome. It is a start in the correct direction.

[SKurj]

and its gone... oops nvm 1st link is not working anyways +)

[ilikerice]

Some of the latest shots that were posted on their facebook page.

enjoy!

[ilikerice]

More pictures, and more to come

[ilikerice]

And more...

[ilikerice]

And you thought that was it... here is the last batch

[eTiMaGo]

Anyone know what that mesh-like thing in the exhaust is for? muffling? emissions?

[sheekeebut]

I don't know, but it looks awesome when it glows red like that.

[xnamerxx]

Anyone know what that mesh-like thing in the exhaust is for? muffling? emissions?

Its a catalytic converter.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Anyone know what that mesh-like thing in the exhaust is for? muffling? emissions?

Spark arrestor, so they don't burn the forest down.

[xnamerxx]

Spark arrestor, so they don't burn the forest down.

You sure? Here is a shot of Mikko Hervonens exhaust tip, and it looks exactly like a Catalytic converter to me. That and I thought WRC cars were mandated to have cats because they have to drive on public roads.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10689768_741942322543380_3117117973896110734_n.jpg ?oh=4b807b4775102d40ff860c9730462cf8&oe=54C19872&__gda__=1418930244_552d06461eb9cc509a58ab29aa42807 9

[sheekeebut]

Spark arrestor, so they don't burn the forest down.
[emoji38] [emoji38]
I know it's a serious matter, but I couldn't help it. You timed it perfectly.

[eTiMaGo]

victory cigar lighter :D

[Jason@SportsCar]

You sure? Here is a shot of Mikko Hervonens exhaust tip, and it looks exactly like a Catalytic converter to me. That and I thought WRC cars were mandated to have cats because they have to drive on public roads.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10689768_741942322543380_3117117973896110734_n.jpg ?oh=4b807b4775102d40ff860c9730462cf8&oe=54C19872&__gda__=1418930244_552d06461eb9cc509a58ab29aa42807 9

Not sure, just based on info I was told some time back.

[kou]

+1 for spark/flame arrestor

[kou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5dfCJcMFfg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZE4ngWR_Og


video of testing wrc yaris

[sheekeebut]

Best car porn of the week

[CrankyOldMan]

Such a shame that there isn't any real info about the Global Race Engine after 2013. Even the TMG website only lists the Yaris R1A with its silly 1.3L engine. http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/motorsport/en/cars/yaris-r1a#tab1

[xnamerxx]

I think the motor in the RA1 is a 2nz-fe judging by the 0-60 time.

[ilikerice]

Yaris is official. Here are the latest.

Here is a quick video that was released yesterday on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422503916&v=QY8A4m0g5aw&x-yt-cl=85027636&list=PLVyRAt2cxbxvaOxxrx-X-MmSOIggLPiYB

[aspro]

Siiiiiiick. Can't wait to see this thing competing.

[ilikerice]

Yea, makes me want a 3rd gen now. I love the headlights and tail light design much more. Only part I don't like is the rear quarter panel wide body.. it looks weird, I know it is designed for functionality, but looks awkward.

[justjesus]

WOW. That thing looks good and sounds awesome.

[invader166]

Definitely tuning in to watch now!!! It seriously looks jaw-dropping!!!

[MUSKOKA800]

I saw a small article in Saturdays Toronto Star Wheels section announcing this.
AWD Yaris to join WRC in 2017. Toyota's first factory effort since leaving the series back in 1999. Can't wait to see it.

[kou]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNSzAdwWBUA

[aeipee13]

https://youtu.be/w1R-ktSpSt8

TMG's youtube channel has a bunch of cool little videos

[invader166]

Looks like they'll be facing some stiff competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFghv84MAbs

[ilikerice]

Curious.. Whats up with all the sub compact cars being converted to WRC cars lately... Seems like it started off with the Fiesta and the Mini Cooper. Now the Yaris and Micro? What happened to the Evo, WRX, Focus?

At this rate, I would not be surprised to see Smart car and the Scion iQ show up

[Jason@SportsCar]

Curious.. Whats up with all the sub compact cars being converted to WRC cars lately... Seems like it started off with the Fiesta and the Mini Cooper. Now the Yaris and Micro? What happened to the Evo, WRX, Focus?

At this rate, I would not be surprised to see Smart car and the Scion iQ show up

After 2010 the engine regulations changed. Previously you could have a 2.0L turbo charged engine, for 2011 and up they adopted the S2000 spec (no, not the Honda) for engines, this limited cars to 1.6L with turbo. Since most cars fitted with these small motors seem to be B segment cars its only fitting this is what you see being raced.

[ilikerice]

Ahh, thanks Jason. Needed a brush up on my WRC rules. All makes sense now

[aeipee13]

http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/en/latest-information-archive-en/462-tommi-maekinen-leads-toyota-gazoo-racing-s-wrc-return-in-2017

[aspro]

I cant wait for this car to enter wrc. I really hope it is a succesful campaign!

[invader166]

In keeping with the regulations, it looks like Toyota will be selling at least 2500 rally-spec versions of the Yaris. There's speculation that this new rally-spec Yaris will be powered by the Lexus 200t model's, 8AR-FTS engine. (2.0L turbo with direct injection - 175KW/235HP)

http://www.motoring.com.au/toyota-plotting-hard-core-wrc-based-yaris-50015/

[ilikerice]

my wallet just jumped out of my pants with all my money in it when i read this.. Bye bye money!

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.racer.com/more/rally/item/128846-makinen-starts-testing-2017-toyota-wrc-car

[ern-diz]

I don't follow rally racing closely, but I know the name Tommi Makinen. Beyond cool.

[Jason@SportsCar]

Sounds like a change of plans, and a body change for the Toyota return to WRC.

http://www.racer.com/templates/world-rally/item/132946-toyota-promises-surprises-with-wrc-design

[CrankyOldMan]

That's disappointing. I wonder if it means the homologation AWD turbo Yaris will be canned as well?

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[Jason@SportsCar]

That's disappointing. I wonder if it means the homologation AWD turbo Yaris will be canned as well?

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They dont have to build homologation cars for WRC S2000, that car was never going to happen, the current road going version of the Auris was enough to qualify them.

I would put my money on a Toyota iM rally car.

[Jason@SportsCar]

http://www.racer.com/international/world-rally/item/135577-hanninen-gets-first-2017-toyota-wrc-seat

[Thirty-Nine]

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2016/12/toyota-gazoo-racing-yaris-debuts.html

[KimmoKekki]

If there is Twitter people then follow @TGR_WRC

[tarkus]

And more Finnish guys with cool sounding names 😎

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[KimmoKekki]

Just ordinary Finnish names 8)

[Freestylin]

Have you guys seen these videos yet? Thought I'd share. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbwVWSlKUnA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd6UsRY5bZ8

[KimmoKekki]

!

[Rigaud]

After 17 years being absent from WRC.........first Rally of the weekend in Monte-Carlo and one of two cars finished in 2nd place. ;)

Very unexpected seeing it's a new car and the driver has not much seat time in it. Even the big bosses at Toyota where quite happily surprised.

[KimmoKekki]

Jari-Natti Latvala co driven by Miikka Anttila took 1st WRC win for @TGR_WRC in Rally Sweden !
Superb job !
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/a9b22dcc7cc159593cdf8b89eced0935.jpg

[ern-diz]

So :w00t:

[KimmoKekki]

Some air time https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/c1c54e3ad47d02079af9fd9a7f32644c.jpg

[David C]

Some air time https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170214/c1c54e3ad47d02079af9fd9a7f32644c.jpg



I wonder if it'll void the warranty :D


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