2014 Yaris SE or Corolla S?

[buda]

Hey guys, I'm in the market for a car. Looking to buy in the spring. However I have some questions, and I think it's best to ask here, since every time I look something up on google, there's always a yaris world page!

To cut to the chase, here are my questions/concerns that I'd like opinions on...

Firstly, both cars I'm shopping are 2014 models, and will be manual transmission. (Yaris SE, Corolla S). I live in Toronto, ON, Canada.

As we all know, the Yaris for North America is being assembled in France. This is my concern after doing searches on the forum, and out, people are tending to want to avoid these.

Are the French Yarii noticeably poorer quality than the Japanese? From what I understand, the French assembly plant has been manufacturing Yarii for Europe for quite some time... So if any Europeans with a French built Yaris could give some input? From reliability reports, they still seem to rank highly in Europe. So just curious if it is something I should avoid... because it has me 2nd guessing.

On the other hand, the Corolla is built here in Ontario. Concerns about going with the Corolla are, slightly more expensive, fuel economy is poorer (city at least (according to EPA) Highway mileage looks the same, though I hear many people are beating the EPA with their Yarii, could this also be true for the Corolla? Lastly, size, as all cars age, they seem to be getting bigger and bigger, and I am a single male, and will likely be just me in the car 80% of the time I drive, so unsure if I need the extra space of the Corolla.

I would just like some input on the Yaris/Corolla given the previous points I provided to help me with my decision.

Thanks for your time! All input is welcome, especially from those with a French manufactured Yaris!

[CTScott]

I haven't seen a French one over here yet. The VIN would start with a V, rather than a J if it was built in France.

[Exiwolfman]

Two different cars cant really compare...both nice the new corolla is quite an improvement over the last one ...love the SE yaris and as for build quality ,sorry to say but so far i have seen way more corollas with body panels out of alignment than the yaris...this is from working at a dealer.
Also keep in mind if u like after market and to play with ur car ur better of with a yaris, corolla does not have a strong after market ,also the drive...have driven both and yes corolla is faster more refine but not as much fun further more for Toronto city driving small is better plus the gas.
I for one would get me an SE 20k plus tax loaded ready to play as to 24k plus tax for corolla...adds up fast.
Two different cars with two different personalities ....tho a lowered 2014 corolla S would look sweet :)
I vote SE Yaris ...its a fun inexpensive hb plus not to many around as SE as for corolla...good looking car like a mini avalon good simple not so exiting transportation ...that is just my opinion .

PS yaris drive train proven and tested car will out live u ..lol New corolla is all new for most part...

I say what ever u buy base it on ur needs and feel...both awesome cars :)

[buda]

Thanks for the quick responses, keep them coming! :)
CTScott: I walked to the local Toyota dealer on my lunch hour, and there was only one Yaris there, Auto LE, and it had the V starting the VIN.
I was going to purchase a 2013 SE 5spd in Sept, but there weren't anymore around.

[CTScott]

Thanks for the quick responses, keep them coming! :)
CTScott: I walked to the local Toyota dealer on my lunch hour, and there was only one Yaris there, Auto LE, and it had the V starting the VIN.
I was going to purchase a 2013 SE 5spd in Sept, but there weren't anymore around.

Ah, so the French ones are hitting our shores. I personally would not have a problem buying a French made one. Spending time in Europe the past few Summers and speaking with owners in quite a few countries, the owners felt that the French made Japanese Yaris was better than equivalent European made European cars.

[nookandcrannycar]

Thanks for the quick responses, keep them coming! :)
CTScott: I walked to the local Toyota dealer on my lunch hour, and there was only one Yaris there, Auto LE, and it had the V starting the VIN.
I was going to purchase a 2013 SE 5spd in Sept, but there weren't anymore around.

I used to have 'French Yaris Fear' :eek::biggrin:. Then (in October of 2013) I toured the Mercedes-Benz plant in Alabama. I hadn't been in an auto plant in 6 or 7 years. I was amazed. The 6 or 7 years might as well have been a lifetime. As others had stated before that on Yarisworld (but I guess I had to see for myself :redface:), the level of robotics/automation/efficiency of processes/etc. in an auto plant (at least one run by one of the major global manufacturers) is amazing. If what I wanted was only produced in France (by Toyota), I'd feel a lot better about it than I did 4 months ago.

I saw (within the last couple of months) a white 2014 Corrola S in a parking lot :thumbsup:. VERY sharp looking.

[roxy1]

I would have zero concerns about the yaris being built in france. there is no reason it would be of a lesser quality. all the important aspects of quality manufacturing will be the same. I bought my 2014 yaris in September and thought it might be one the ones built in france. even knowing this I didn't even bother to check until a few weeks later. it just wasn't a concern.

the corolla will feel like more car (quieter/nicer interior/larger, etc..) but of course it costs more. its also a sedan, which is the reason I bought the yaris instead. price wasn't an issue, but I wanted a hatch.

[Thirty-Nine]

I've driven both for a week at a time, and indeed they are very different cars. If it were my cash, I'd opt for the Yaris, simply because I don't need the extra size of the Corolla, and I'd prefer the mileage of the Yaris.

FWIW, here's my '14 Corolla S review:

http://www.subcompactculture.com/2013/12/review-2014-toyota-corolla-s.html

[YAlexRIs]

I have a 2014 SE yaris since october 2013. I made 7300km up to date. I love it. My VIN start with a J. I'm form Quebec, Canada.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48615

[YodaBird]

http://rollingout.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/2014_toyota_corolla_sedan_europe_02-0607-650x390.jpg
2014 Corolla

http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/156595/2014-toyota-yaris-i1.jpg
2014 Yaris

Do you see a resemblance, I do, it's subtle. I've seen a few 2014 corollas and they are a little smaller then their older generations.

I personally would never buy a corolla, in-fact alot of cars don't really do much, in extreme heat or cold all cars are the same and they can only bare so much. The only real expensive cars I'd buy if I had the cash is a Range Rover & Porsche, as for more affordable vehicles a Volkswagen Jetta. Besides those two most cars don't offer much difference, I've been in a 2008 BMW, I thought my Yaris was low, those cars are low. The Yaris has a nice flow to it, it's a basic car but it has the power you need. As I said unless you car is a transformer (as in the movie) extreme heat or cold can wear it out, unless you buy a new car every year or lease as many do, which is just throwing money in the air.

Take care of your car the best you can, the only problem I have is when I have to pay my insurance at $306 / month, each year, and Gas too I try not to fill up too much, especially this winter that never ends. You have to choose, pay insurance or take public transit, and public transit is horrid.

[YodaBird]

I have a 2014 SE yaris since october 2013. I made 7300km up to date. I love it. My VIN start with a J. I'm form Quebec, Canada.

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48615

I have the same amount of Km on my car after almost (2) years :)

[matti]

I certainly don't think you can go wrong with either one. When I bought my 2012 Yaris (stick), I was also considering a Corolla (stick). The reasons I went with the Yaris:

1. I drive solo at least 90% of the time...no need for the bigger Corolla.
2. Corolla cost a few thousand dollars more and had a few extra features that I didn't care about.
3. Insurance on the Yaris was a bit cheaper.
4. MPGs on the Yaris was a bit better. In the summer, I can easily get 40-43mpg if I drive in a normal, sane manner. I've been as high as 47mpg for tank.

Not sure if this helps. Again, I think they are both nice cars (and I do like what they've done with the 2014 Corolla). Good luck!

[buda]

Everything helps, whether positive or negative. Thanks! Feel free to add if anyone cares to.

[nookandcrannycar]

Yesterday I was talking to a guy who just bought two 2014 Yari (both 3-door models) . He works for Chevron, is a Pharmacist, and also owns two pharmacies on the side. He bought the Yari as a business purchase (for deliveries for his pharmacies). He said so far so good, he thinks they're great. Both are automatics, but being a business purchases that would make more sense re resale and also flexibility re who needs to use the vehicle.

[Exiwolfman]

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hb look so good specifically SE wish we had a 2 door SE here

[YAlexRIs]

52739

hb look so good specifically SE wish we had a 2 door SE here

Very nice with the white wheels!

[yougojay]

Personally, I wanted a 2 door car, Yaris was/IS perfect!
Really impressed with the way it operates, so I am probably
biased from driving it :iono:
Wanted a very small car & the reliability factors posted here
really swayed my decision.
The white 4 door above is very sharp, yet I just love having a coupe!

[buda]

So everyone thinks the French manufacturing is a non-issue eh? That's good to know. I will make my final decision after visiting the Autoshow this month in Toronto. Thanks for all the feedback guys!

[YodaBird]

French manufacturing a non-issue, I dunno ! :thumbdown:

[Exiwolfman]

French manufacturing a non-issue, I dunno ! :thumbdown:

Better than overpaid Canadian ....so how we build cars not impressed at all .

[nookandcrannycar]

Better than overpaid Canadian

:bellyroll:. The Suzuki Swift (late 2001 model) I had before my Yaris was assembled in Canada. It was a good car --- one brake job, one clutch adjustment (a friend did the clutch adjustment and didn't charge me), 2 sets of inexpensive tires (after the OEMs), and 1 replacement battery in 151k + miles. My cousin's wife has a Saturn SUV (last year made)....same as the Terrain (?) assembled in Canada. I don't know if hers was assembled in Canada. Although it doesn't effect my county, a number of people here are cheering the vote (rejection of the union) at the VW plant in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

[buda]

Hey guys! Update. After checking out the Canadian International Autoshow in Toronto with my brother (and getting his advice between my choices) I'm going to be buying a Yaris SE! 5 Spd, and the Blazing Blue Metallic :) I am just waiting to buy in either March or April, to see if there's any spring sales!

[nookandcrannycar]

Hey guys! Update. After checking out the Canadian International Autoshow in Toronto with my brother (and getting his advice between my choices) I'm going to be buying a Yaris SE! 5 Spd, and the Blazing Blue Metallic :) I am just waiting to buy in either March or April, to see if there's any spring sales!

Congrats re your decision! Are 5-speed SEs fairly easy to find in Canada ?.....Not so much here in the United States.

[roxy1]

Congrats re your decision! Are 5-speed SEs fairly easy to find in Canada ?.....Not so much here in the United States.

what? you don't think the USA is overstocked with 5 speed SE's? there are a whopping 18 o fthem:rolleyes:

[buda]

Congrats re your decision! Are 5-speed SEs fairly easy to find in Canada ?.....Not so much here in the United States.

A dealer I was contacting had a 5spd in stock, not blue, but they said they have a blue one in their inventory. SO EXCITED (First time buying new)

[nookandcrannycar]

what? you don't think the USA is overstocked with 5 speed SE's? there are a whopping 18 o fthem:rolleyes:

:laugh:

[buda]

Just an update. I purchased the car last weekend. However, they no longer had the blazing blue metallic in inventory (or anywhere in Canada) so it is a factory order, and will take a few months to come in. I'm fine with that since there's no urgency, as I've not had a car for around 10 years, I can go a few more months XD. But yeah, red tag days were on, and got 0.9% financing (there were no cash incentives for the SE). Excited!

[Exiwolfman]

Sweet post pics when u get it ...ull love the car SE is sweet ...we'll now u have lots of time on the mods what to do first lol


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[buda]

Hey guys! Just got word from my dealer that my car has been built. Should be here mid July after it crosses the ocean from Japan to Vancouver, then a nice lil choo choo to Toronto.

Neat little piece of information my dealer told me, while the 2014 Yaris are generally made in France now, the SE's are still Japan. He sent my VIN so I can give to my insurance, and it's a J :D

[nookandcrannycar]

the SE's are still Japan. He sent my VIN so I can give to my insurance, and it's a J :D

Very interesting.

[mirapatec]

SEs still being made in Japan is interesting, I agree. I am going to check the VINs on any Yaris L and LE on the next dealer lot I happen upon.

[momaterials]

Hi all
Just to add ,it s also a question of style ,Yaris is not with the same family with corolla .
Yaris is small hb car ,corolla is another class.it s a question of taste too.The Yaris looks like sport car for young man.You can make mofications with your future yaris and make it looks better .Corolla is long car for aged people although it s not rule .both cars are good ,its depends on your taste ,needs etc .I own a Yaris 1.3 vvti 99hp and I m satisfied with it .the only thing I find it bad is that front brakes should be changed every 30 000 km or less.2 generation yaris' brakes last longer about 80 000 km

[trunkout]

.the only thing I find it bad is that front brakes should be changed every 30 000 km or less.2 generation yaris' brakes last longer about 80 000 km

???????

I'm at 96,000 miles on original brakes working fine...... 2009 sedan.

[fnkngrv]

???????

I'm at 96,000 miles on original brakes working fine...... 2009 sedan.
yeah....80k km is less than 50k miles even with hard driving and deceleration from almost 150mph several times per weekend when I race my stock ones lasted me 80k miles. I can't think of how a non track car would regularly burn though the stock brakes at less than 50k miles unless it was literally all hard braking in a city environment. Hell I have close to 100k miles on my rears.

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[momaterials]

Yes , the problem of brakes is with third generation Yaris H back ,not the second one .Toyoya Algeria recommends to change front brakes of third generation hb yari every 30 000 km or about 18641 miles

[nookandcrannycar]

Toyoya Algeria recommends to change front brakes of third generation hb yari every 30 000 km or about 18641 miles

:eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge: The roads and traffic = that bad ? :eek::eek::eek:

[fnkngrv]

Yes , the problem of brakes is with third generation Yaris H back ,not the second one .Toyoya Algeria recommends to change front brakes of third generation hb yari every 30 000 km or about 18641 miles
goodness if that is the case I wouldn't even buy one. If you aren't a do it yourself kind of person that will add up fast. just sounds plain odd.

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[roxy1]

Yes , the problem of brakes is with third generation Yaris H back ,not the second one .Toyoya Algeria recommends to change front brakes of third generation hb yari every 30 000 km or about 18641 miles

ive seen no indication from 3rd gen owners that there are any issues with premature brake wear and there are plenty on here with 100,000km (60,000 miles) and more.

don't know if that is a regional issue or simply a bunch of B.S.

I find it a bit incredulous that Toyota would be producing a car where there was a factory recommendation to change brakes every 18,000 miles.

[Exiwolfman]

Maybe its do to area Yaris is known for inside pad wear , uneven ....the once with problems I find are owned by older ppl that drive slow and are easy on the brakes also winters can shorten ur brakes .

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[momaterials]

Hi all
Ok, good I hope that brakes will be changed after 100 000 km. this makes me happy.and this s what I m looking less expenses on my car .But what I said had been told by a mToyota agent here in Algeria .by the way me too , the first time i heard about the subject it sound weird and I had regrets buying an expensive car .I could buy Peugeot 208 hdi,or Polo Vw
May be because car is under warranty Toyota policy here want owners change spare parts frequenrly .or in other words ,maintenance schedule is narrowed so that earning more money .For example, I change oilin Toyota and filter every 5000 km although the oil used is for 10000 km .when you ask them they will tell you to keep the engine in a good shape or the weather here is always hot and oil lose its efficiency.

[roxy1]

so it sounds like a dealer/saleperson just spewing BS to sell some items unnecessarily.

[momaterials]

Yes unnecessarily pretending that they care about you and the safety of your car .or may be Toyota here sell low cost brakes and they say so , i don't know , i have to investigate on it

[nookandcrannycar]

Hi all
Ok, good I hope that brakes will be changed after 100 000 km. this makes me happy.and this s what I m looking less expenses on my car .But what I said had been told by a mToyota agent here in Algeria .by the way me too , the first time i heard about the subject it sound weird and I had regrets buying an expensive car .I could buy Peugeot 208 hdi,or Polo Vw
May be because car is under warranty Toyota policy here want owners change spare parts frequenrly .or in other words ,maintenance schedule is narrowed so that earning more money .For example, I change oilin Toyota and filter every 5000 km although the oil used is for 10000 km .when you ask them they will tell you to keep the engine in a good shape or the weather here is always hot and oil lose its efficiency.

How some small car aficionados would feel re the VW Polo in the U.S. = :wub:

Will the VW Polo become available in the U.S. ? = No :cry:

[roxy1]

How some small car aficionados would feel re the VW Polo in the U.S. = :wub:

Will the VW Polo become available in the U.S. ? = No :cry:

if it was one would be in my garage....and I would have never looked at the fiat 500. I would also be interested in the VW UP.

I just have an affinity for vw small cars.....problems and all. they just don't sell any here.. the golf and beetle don't seem small to me anymore.

[nookandcrannycar]

if it was one would be in my garage....and I would have never looked at the fiat 500. I would also be interested in the VW UP.

I like both the Polo and the UP as well.

I just have an affinity for vw small cars.....problems and all. they just don't sell any here.. the golf and beetle don't seem small to me anymore.

Yep. I've owned (in the past) a new Scirocco, and also a new GTI. I totaled the Scirocco with only 7k miles on it :cry:. The GTI I squeezed almost 195k out of....but not without many issues. If I ever bought another VW, I'd think twice before keeping it more than half that many miles....but those miles would probably be a lot of fun :biggrin:.

[fnkngrv]

Corado would be nice if they resurrected that too!

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[momaterials]

The polo is popular here in Algeria better than the yaris .very beautiful and neat .We have 1.4 85 hp petrol version .sometimes I feel I did mistake purchasing a yaris .
but I chose the yaris because it has 99 horse power ,ie more power .Furthermore Yaris is more reliable car and better fuel economy

[kimona]

The polo is popular here in Algeria better than the yaris .very beautiful and neat .We have 1.4 85 hp petrol version .sometimes I feel I did mistake purchasing a yaris .
but I chose the yaris because it has 99 horse power ,ie more power .Furthermore Yaris is more reliable car and better fuel economy

Plus, the cost of maintenance and repairs on the Yaris is so much cheaper than a VW.

[trunkout]

Plus, the cost of maintenance and repairs on the Yaris is so much cheaper than a VW.

Like 1000% cheaper.

:thumbup:

[nookandcrannycar]

Corado would be nice if they resurrected that too!

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

:thumbsup: Especially the V6.

[nookandcrannycar]

The polo is popular here in Algeria better than the yaris .very beautiful and neat .We have 1.4 85 hp petrol version .sometimes I feel I did mistake purchasing a yaris .
but I chose the yaris because it has 99 horse power ,ie more power .Furthermore Yaris is more reliable car and better fuel economy

Wow....Yaris has more power, but better fuel economy!

[momaterials]

the yaris I have has 99 horse power at 6000 rpm.it an 1.3 petrol consume about 5.5 liter per 100 km.

[mirapatec]

Before purchasing my Yaris, I actually considered a VW Golf. However, the Golf was about $6,000 more and was less fuel-efficient. Plus, having a 2000 VW Jetta previously with some reliability issues gave VW products less consideration for me. I would actually like to test drive a VW Polo sometime just for fun.

[momaterials]

Diesel version of the polo is good option , TDI engine is a good one.There is a new petrol engine TSI ,

[NYC-SE]

Before purchasing my Yaris, I actually considered a VW Golf. However, the Golf was about $6,000 more and was less fuel-efficient. Plus, having a 2000 VW Jetta previously with some reliability issues gave VW products less consideration for me. I would actually like to test drive a VW Polo sometime just for fun.

You made the right choice. I came from a 2010 Golf TDI and after dealing with 4 years of (almost) constant problems I finally gave up. The Golf does have an upscale feel and wonderful driving dynamics but VW has a serious quality control problem. If any one is seriously considering a VW purchase be sure to spend some time on any of the various VW enthusiast forums before making a decision. You will be horrified. My own story is here:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=416471

[fnkngrv]

You made the right choice. I came from a 2010 Golf TDI and after dealing with 4 years of (almost) constant problems I finally gave up. The Golf does have an upscale feel and wonderful driving dynamics but VW has a serious quality control problem. If any one is seriously considering a VW purchase be sure to spend some time on any of the various VW enthusiast forums before making a decision. You will be horrified. My own story is here:

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=416471

I always get a kick out of the hate on the Yaris. Subsequently I enjoy waxin their asses on a regular basis.

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[mirapatec]

@ NYC-SE: And I thought my VW issues were bad. Yours were absolutely horrible. I really liked VW products, but now that I have owned my first Toyota, I am a convert.

[why?]

As much as I think VW/Audi products are sexy and great driving cars I just would never buy one. They have just far too many issues, and when something breaks it costs a ton and a half to fix.

[nookandcrannycar]

IIRC, the problems with my GTI didn't start until after 90k miles. Given how people feel on this thread (with good reason), It sounds as though giving VW even that much leeway (re miles) is currently not a wise proposition.

[why?]

IIRC, the problems with my GTI didn't start until after 90k miles. Given how people feel on this thread (with good reason), It sounds as though giving VW even that muck leeway (re miles) is currentlynot a wise proposition.

VW for whatever reason just doesn't care about reliability of its vehicles. They still have reports of electrical gremlins that have been off and on for twenty years now. That is just totally absurd.

[momaterials]

so I did the right choice purchasing Yaris , I m happy

[nookandcrannycar]

VW for whatever reason just doesn't care about reliability of its vehicles. They still have reports of electrical gremlins that have been off and on for twenty years now. That is just totally absurd.

Wow.....and I thought my electrical gremlins were my doing re the load from the extensive stereo I had in that VW.

[nookandcrannycar]

so I did the right choice purchasing Yaris , I m happy

:thumbsup: