More Dope on Bronsins Accident!

[bronsin]

Insurance adjusted out at $2137 and I have a $2000 deductable. Since I could well be laid off (and retired) in a month and the car is drivable and NJ only requires no CEL light for inspection every two years its possible the insurance company has paid me $137 to have an accident!

[nookandcrannycar]

Wow, so sorry to hear that :frown:. If you get your house sold (I'm assuming your Yaris is parked out in front of your house on the previous thread), when your wife retires moving down here might be a consideration (I remember your brother and your mother live down here). As you know, the COL is lower, and we rarely get snow (and when we do, it doesn't stick on the ground...only on the roofs of houses for usually 2 days at most). If your kids are there (and don't plan to move), and a 'Philly Summer' is as hot as you can stand :eek::biggrin:, etc. -- then of course staying put makes the most sense (over moving anywhere 'hotter').

[nookandcrannycar]

Insurance adjusted out at $2137 and I have a $2000 deductable. Since I could well be laid off (and retired) in a month and the car is drivable and NJ only requires no CEL light for inspection every two years its possible the insurance company has paid me $137 to have an accident!

I am intrigued by your picture, for another reason (besides the accident damage). I recently decided (after my flat tire about 3 1/2 weeks ago)...knowing that the replacement on that wheel will still have lots of tread on it when I'm due for another 'set' of tires on my Yaris... that (after that) re going out of town (any time I'm going to be outside the metro I'm in --- Be it the Bay Area in CA, or Houston here in Texas) for overnight or longer, I want to have a full sized spare. I ended up buying a rim from CTScott (I got a notice in my box (picked up wednesday night) that it had arrived...I picked up the box on Thursday...and didn't have a chance to open it until this morning). The rim has a used tire on it. The tire has enough tread on it that I don't have to wait until I 'need a new set' of tires to implement using this rim for trips :smile:. Your picture is additionally intriguing (beyond your damage) because your rim has the same...for lack of a better term...'rust circles'..that I see on my recently purchased rim. I'm not concerned (I know CTScott wouldn't sell anyone a rim (or anything else) that he judged (obviously competently) to be unsafe), I'm just curious re what causes this. Does this happen in all areas that have inclement winter weather, or only where certain types of road treatment (certain types of salts ?) are used?

[instantninja]

nookandcrannycar the openings in hub caps create those circles.

[roxy1]

im still surprised one can have a $2000 deductible.

[dj92]

im still surprised one can have a $2000 deductible.
+1
What do they charge p.a.?

[nookandcrannycar]

nookandcrannycar the openings in hub caps create those circles.

I could tell that when I first looked at the one I bought from CTScott, and when I saw the picture Bronsin posted of his recent accident that showed the driver side front rim :smile:. What I was really wondering is what causes that....driving in the rain in certain (colder?) climates at specific times of the year?.......driving on roads that have been treated with particular chemicals?....lots of driving in areas with particular types of pollution?....and....a thought that JUST popped into my head -- namely driving for extended periods without wheel covers on the car....This hasn't happened with my OEM steelies (no circles). The existence of the circles doesn't worry me at all. I've just always had a fairly well developed sense of curiosity...always asking why :smile:.

[nookandcrannycar]

+1
What do they charge p.a.?

The philosophy re car insurance here in the U.S. is quite different than in Canada or in Europe...and it also varies from state to state. I carry high liability limits, but I don't carry comprehensive nor collision on my Yaris. Neither does Tooter out in California. IIRC, the liability limits in Texas are higher than in California. In California the minimum limits (by law) are (at least as of a couple of months ago) 15k/30k/5k --- $15,000 per person bodily injury/$30,000 overall per accident bodily injury/$5,000 per accident property damage. These were also the minimum limits in California IN THE 1970s. If you own your car outright (no lien holder), then you aren't required to carry collision or comprehensive coverage. IIRC from an earlier thread, the minimum liability limit in Canada is $2,000,000 CAD. Bronsin's insurance probably isn't cheap. Being married helps re rates, as does being a homeowner if you have multiple policies with the same carrier, but New Jersey isn't known (among people I know who have moved there) as an inexpensive place re car insurance...nor many other things...EXCEPT gasoline for your vehicle.

[The Limo 2]

In British Columbia you must purchase insurance for your car in order to purchase a license plate or license plate sticker for your car.
The minimum insurance you can purchase is:

3rd Party Liability - $200,000 - If you are found legally responsible for someone else's injury or damage to their property, then 3rd party liability coverage will pay for claims or damages awarded against you.

Accident Benefits - $150,000 - If you are injured in a motor vehicle crash, Accident Benefits will help with medical costs and wage loss.

Underinsured Motorist Protection - Up to $1,000,000 - If you are injured or killed by the owner or operator of an underinsured vehicle and you're not at fault, Underinsured Motorist Protection will provide coverage if the at fault motorist does not have enough insurance and can't pay the claim.

Protection against hit and run and underinsured motorists - $200,000 - Automatic coverage up to a maximum of $200,000 is available to anyone whose property is damaged, or who is injured or killed by an underinsured or hit and run driver on a highway in BC. This coverage is available to all BC residents regardless of whether they own and insure a vehicle.

Inverse Liability Coverage - To recover your deductible if the other motorist is at fault and it is against the law to recover your deductible from their insurance company.
We have a choice of deductibles from $300.00 to $2,500.00.
You can also purchase additional insurance through ICBC or a private company.

Sorry to hijack this thread. Hope this explains it better.
Roy

[nookandcrannycar]

In British Columbia you must purchase insurance for your car in order to purchase a license plate or license plate sticker for your car.
The minimum insurance you can purchase is:
3rd Party Liability - $200,000
Accident Benefits - $150,000
Underinsured Motorist Protection - Up to $1,000,000
Protection against hit and run and underinsured motorists - $200,000
Inverse Liability Coverage - To recover your deductible if the other motorist is at fault and it is against the law to recover your deductible from their insurance company.
We have a choice of deductibles from $300.00 to $2,500.00.
You can also purchase additional insurance through ICBC or a private company.
Roy

Wow. Very interesting. So different from here. Since you don't mention what we refer to as 'Comp and Collision' (I think you can only buy them together...at least in California and Texas), I'm assuming that at least collision is covered under what you refer to as 'accident benefits' ? I'm also assuming that (if not by name, then by effect), in British Columbia, you have what we call 'No Fault Insurance' :eek: (IIRC, roxy1 posted that this is the case in Michigan, and that it isn't held in high regard)? Given that Inverse Liability Coverage exists in your province, I assume that one MUST have coverage that covers damage to your own car, even if you own it outright with no lien holder? I guess it is like many things.....one 'gets used to it' (and at least you have one of the most beautiful places on the planet (the southern part of British Columbia) to 'get used to it' :thumbsup:) .....but finding it hard to embrace this (when you own your car outright) might be one of the few things many Texans and many Californians might agree upon. I was recently rear ended while waiting for traffic to clear to merge onto a freeway feeder road. 100% the other driver's fault. The thought that I would have to pay one cent toward the repair itself (I didn't have to), just about 'makes my blood boil' (so to speak).

The $2,000,000 CAD figure, IIRC, was from a post by edmscan. Possibly $2,000,000 is the minimum liability limit in Alberta? (or perhaps that is his limit and not a minimum limit :redface:)

[WeeYari]

Up here, BC is a bit of an odd nut. Automobile insurance in BC is run by the provincial government, whereas most of the other provinces are privately held, or publicly traded companies, operating under the federal watchdog IBC (Insurance Bureau of Canada).

[nookandcrannycar]

Up here, BC is a bit of an odd nut. Automobile insurance in BC is run by the provincial government, whereas most of the other provinces are privately held, or publicly traded companies, operating under the federal watchdog IBC (Insurance Bureau of Canada).

Thanks for the info :thumbsup:.

[roxy1]

unfortunately, in MI (and other no fault states) most carry collision unless you car is worth around $1000 or less, since even in a crash that destroys your car and is 100% the fault of another driver, MI doesn't care. you carry collision or your car cant be totaled out for its true value.

[DebbyM46227]

im still surprised one can have a $2000 deductible.

So am I! Mine is $250 and my insurance rate isn't high.

[instantninja]

I could tell that when I first looked at the one I bought from CTScott, and when I saw the picture Bronsin posted of his recent accident that showed the driver side front rim :smile:. What I was really wondering is what causes that....driving in the rain in certain (colder?) climates at specific times of the year?.......driving on roads that have been treated with particular chemicals?....lots of driving in areas with particular types of pollution?....and....a thought that JUST popped into my head -- namely driving for extended periods without wheel covers on the car....This hasn't happened with my OEM steelies (no circles). The existence of the circles doesn't worry me at all. I've just always had a fairly well developed sense of curiosity...always asking why :smile:.

now that you mention it, my steelies that don't have hub caps on them are rust free. I just assumed it was from salt and sand from the road surface sandblasting the parts of the wheel that weren't covered by the hubcap. Now I'm unsure.

[CTScott]

now that you mention it, my steelies that don't have hub caps on them are rust free. I just assumed it was from salt and sand from the road surface sandblasting the parts of the wheel that weren't covered by the hubcap. Now I'm unsure.

I think that the hubcaps cause the sandblasting of the uncovered areas, as I have only seen the steelies blasted down to bare metal on ones that had hubcaps.

[bronsin]

Yeah I recently removed my hubcaps so they wouldnt get lost hitting potholes and to make it easier to change wheels if need be. They have the rusted circles after five years of hubcaps.

But that never used to happen. Why now? :iono:

[nookandcrannycar]

I just assumed it was from salt and sand from the road surface sandblasting the parts of the wheel that weren't covered by the hubcap

After seeing Bronsin's driver side front steelie I thought road treatment might have something to do with it, but then when CTScott wrote that the wheel I bought from him was from a California car, I wondered if road treatment was a factor.

[nookandcrannycar]

I think that the hubcaps cause the sandblasting of the uncovered areas, as I have only seen the steelies blasted down to bare metal on ones that had hubcaps.

I looked at the thread about 40+ minutes ago and thought instantninja's post was quite interesting, and that your reply to him was a logical next step in the thought process (a conclusion that 99%+ of others wouldn't have the experience and other attributes to come to). I posted my reply to instantninja, and then looked at that reply. Sure enough, Bronsin had posted in the interim, validating your conclusion. I know in the past you've posted that with certain issues (can't remember a specific one off the top of my head :redface:) your best guess re a cause is a change in what is used to treat roads in the winter time. Could that be why 'developing circles' didn't happen to Bronsin in the past, but has occurred on his Yaris?