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minisantos
03-15-2014, 12:17 PM
finally got my blitz kit fitted up yesterday. got all the mechanical part sorted out.
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/minisantos/1185006_668939663166979_663240831_n.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/minisantos/media/1185006_668939663166979_663240831_n.jpg.html)

my problem is though when its on boost its bogging down and not running properly. this is the diagram i've used to wire it up as its the only decent one i could find.



http://www.blitzpowerusa.com/techsupport/pdf/sc_scionxb-xa.pdf

is this the wrong diagram? the car is a 2003 uk yaris t sport running a blitz fuel controller. im abit stuck :( cheers.

CTScott
03-15-2014, 01:01 PM
I think that one is incorrect based on the wire colors. Did you check it against what I PMed you on YCUK?

minisantos
03-15-2014, 01:04 PM
i need to find the ecu pinout diagram to see whats what on my car. i think it might be incorrect wiring. ive tried looking for my car's specific ecu diagrams to tell me what goes where but to no avail.

CTScott
03-15-2014, 01:30 PM
i need to find the ecu pinout diagram to see whats what on my car. i think it might be incorrect wiring. ive tried looking for my car's specific ecu diagrams to tell me what goes where but to no avail.

What year is your T Sport?

And, can you snap a picture of your ECM connectors?

minisantos
03-15-2014, 01:37 PM
yep gimme a min :)

minisantos
03-15-2014, 01:46 PM
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/minisantos/3021E14E-E48E-45F5-9DC3-BC42770159C6-397-000000312941269A_zps0cf73088.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/minisantos/media/3021E14E-E48E-45F5-9DC3-BC42770159C6-397-000000312941269A_zps0cf73088.jpg.html)

CTScott
03-15-2014, 02:09 PM
Perfect. I will check to see if I have that one.

minisantos
03-15-2014, 02:11 PM
thanks bud. :)

07stlYaris
03-15-2014, 05:13 PM
Hope the tape is to protect the solder. Not a jab or a negative comment, just an observation.

CTScott
03-15-2014, 07:51 PM
http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj516/minisantos/3021E14E-E48E-45F5-9DC3-BC42770159C6-397-000000312941269A_zps0cf73088.jpg (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/minisantos/media/3021E14E-E48E-45F5-9DC3-BC42770159C6-397-000000312941269A_zps0cf73088.jpg.html)

OK. Sorry for the delay - It's been a busy Saturday.

I am still looking for the T-Sport EWD. The Xb one in your link matches the connectors of your ECM, but when I check the Xb wiring diagram against your ECM wires are in the wrong places.

Besides the black/red and the brown being in the same place, did you find that the wires that you connected to matched the colors of the wires from the Xb guide, or did you just go by position?

CTScott
03-15-2014, 10:40 PM
OK. Finally tracked it down.


Black wires: Ground - Any ECM brown Wire

Red: Ignition switched power - Black/red that you connected to

Yellow: Injector #2 - E3-2 Black/Yellow

Orange: Injector #1 - E3-1 black/orange

White: Injector #3 - E3-3 Black/White

Blue: Injector #4 - E3-4 Black/light blue

Light Green: VG (MAF Sensor) - E4-24 Pink

Green: To Blue activation wire for clutch

53039

TheBosna
03-15-2014, 11:47 PM
Hi guys, I recently bought an 06 yaris that came with a blitz supercharger kit. One problem, it isn't spooling at all. The clutch light isn't on, the one on the controller, and I have it set to high right now. The car idles fine and everything, but the shifts seem longer than they should be. It's an automatic as well. Any help appreciated!

minisantos
03-16-2014, 08:35 AM
all the wires are correct. its still doing it. im gonna go through all the sensors and check for air leaks in the system. ive also tightened the belt up.

CTScott
03-16-2014, 09:14 AM
all the wires are correct. its still doing it. im gonna go through all the sensors and check for air leaks in the system. ive also tightened the belt up.

Was the gasket between the SC an the block new or used? That is a common leak point as well.

minisantos
03-16-2014, 10:34 AM
used, the boost pressure gauge is reading normal and it boosts to around 0.5 bar every time (on the gauge) . ive checked and cleaned the maf sensor and tightened it as well. it feels torquey at low throttle around 50% but if you give it full throttle it stutters.

minisantos
03-16-2014, 10:47 AM
i can also hear a whistling noise somewhere but can't pinpoint it lol

CrankyOldMan
03-16-2014, 11:29 AM
I'm cutting a fresh batch of gaskets this week. Not sure what shipping to the UK is, but I'm basically selling them at cost.

biffy
03-16-2014, 11:33 AM
Hes getting a set you made for me dude. Hope it sorts it out :-)

minisantos
03-16-2014, 11:33 AM
how much bud?

minisantos
03-16-2014, 11:34 AM
i had a tiny taste of the power and was like YAAAAAAAAAY. then it pissed on my bonfire haha.

CrankyOldMan
03-16-2014, 11:48 AM
Aah, I see. Are you using an OEM gasket for the throttle body?

minisantos
03-16-2014, 12:00 PM
no i'm using the one that came with the kit. :)

minisantos
03-16-2014, 03:13 PM
tried to feel for a boost leak with it revving at around 3000 rpm. i can't find one :(

CTScott
03-16-2014, 05:11 PM
tried to feel for a boost leak with it revving at around 3000 rpm. i can't find one :(

A boost leak would have less effect on the car than a vacuum leak would on the input side of the S/C.

minisantos
03-16-2014, 06:46 PM
gonna have a crack at it tomorrow again. i might take the fuel rail off and clean all the injector seals as well. it runs fine until i boot it which is odd, ive cleaned the maf, re seated it, and tightened the silicone hose coupler as well. hopefully ill make some progress tomorrow.

minisantos
03-17-2014, 08:44 AM
right. maf, silicone intake joiner, throttle body, silicone charger coupler, and top gasket on the charger are checked. i've also checked the breathers and tightened all the hose clamps. it still doing it :(

CTScott
03-17-2014, 08:48 AM
right. maf, silicone intake joiner, throttle body, silicone charger coupler, and top gasket on the charger are checked. i've also checked the breathers and tightened all the hose clamps. it still doing it :(

Do you have access to an oscilloscope to see if the Blitz Throttle Controller is really extending the injector firing?

minisantos
03-17-2014, 08:49 AM
no i don't unfortunately :(

minisantos
03-17-2014, 08:54 AM
would a tuner have one?

CTScott
03-17-2014, 09:09 AM
would a tuner have one?

Probably. Or, an electronics hobbyist or professional.

Also, can you post a video of how it is behaving?

minisantos
03-17-2014, 09:33 AM
yeah sure i'll get one on my way to work.

minisantos
03-17-2014, 09:34 AM
ive booked it in with my tuner on wednesday, he's gonna pressure test the whole thing and check my air fuel ratios. at least i can still drive the car slowly with the charger turned off :)

minisantos
03-17-2014, 05:29 PM
right, had a nose underneath in the passenger footwell and spotted that the fuel controller isnt lighting up when the engines running. i think i've found my problem. im gonna connect it to the cigarette lighter and a reliable chassis earth tomorrow and hopefully itll be problem solved.

minisantos
03-18-2014, 11:08 AM
right tried getting the ignition live from the cigarette lighter. no light..... im thinking my fuel controller is broken :(

CTScott
03-18-2014, 11:37 AM
right tried getting the ignition live from the cigarette lighter. no light..... im thinking my fuel controller is broken :(

Make sure your ground is good as well.

minisantos
03-18-2014, 11:44 AM
i have, tried one directly to the battery :(

should it be lit all the time? or just when i use the switch to power the charger's clutch?

CTScott
03-18-2014, 11:51 AM
i have, tried one directly to the battery :(

should it be lit all the time? or just when i use the switch to power the charger's clutch?

My Blitz TC that came with my SC is different, where the TC box does not have a light, but instead the 4 position activation switch has the light. With it, the light comes on only when the clutch is being engaged. Which means that it has detected the correct throttle position to activate.

minisantos
03-18-2014, 12:11 PM
my supercharger clutch works. and so does the LED on the switch. but the fuel controller does not light up at all its boosting properly as im getting a consistent reading from my boost gauge. i just dont think the controller is working. is there any way to get it tested?

CTScott
03-18-2014, 12:30 PM
my supercharger clutch works. and so does the LED on the switch. but the fuel controller does not light up at all its boosting properly as im getting a consistent reading from my boost gauge. i just dont think the controller is working. is there any way to get it tested?

It is actually a pretty simple device internally. pop the cover and look for any damaged components. If it was hooked up incorrectly something may have internally failed.

Also, just to verify - The green wire from the TC is connected to the blue activation output wire from the switch?

minisantos
03-18-2014, 01:23 PM
yeah it is. the light is on the switch when i turn it on. gonna crack the box open tonight and see if anything's broken.

minisantos
03-19-2014, 05:55 PM
had a look inside it, its visibly fine and checked it all with a multimeter. the fuel controller is lighting up when giving it throttle, but its flashing really erratically all the time.

CTScott
03-19-2014, 09:31 PM
had a look inside it, its visibly fine and checked it all with a multimeter. the fuel controller is lighting up when giving it throttle, but its flashing really erratically all the time.

So, it flashes erratically even when the throttle is not pressed?

minisantos
03-19-2014, 09:44 PM
only when the throttle is pressed and on boost it flickers on and off. when it's on steady i get ALOT of power and its amazing then it'll flicker wildly and i have no power and it grinds down as if its getting no fuel. :(

CTScott
03-19-2014, 10:05 PM
only when the throttle is pressed and on boost it flickers on and off. when it's on steady i get ALOT of power and its amazing then it'll flicker wildly and i have no power and it grinds down as if its getting no fuel. :(

Sounds like you might have a poor connection on a wire. Did you solder or tap-splice the wires?

minisantos
03-19-2014, 10:17 PM
all soldered up. the problem before with it not lighting up at all is i had a ground loop.

now thats solved it should be working properly, but its not :( i'm getting the fuel pressure regulator that came with the kit fitted on saturday and my tuner's gonna have another look at it. its annoying me a little as it actually worked brilliantly through a 2nd and 3rd gear full throttle pull today, then it played up again lol

minisantos
03-25-2014, 04:53 AM
is it normal for the fuel controller to nake a buzzing type noise when its working?

CTScott
03-25-2014, 07:19 AM
is it normal for the fuel controller to nake a buzzing type noise when its working?

Mine does not. When you opened yours was there a relay inside of it? If so, the buzzing is likely the relay being pulsed quickly (and it won't last long doing that).

minisantos
03-25-2014, 10:42 AM
cant remember off the top of my head, ill post a picture later on. the car seems to be working fine though...