camshaft options for 1nzfe

[bostssgt]

hi! i want to know what are my option for camshaft on my 1nzfe,
plans are turboing (td04h-13t from hyundai genesis intercooler from lancer ralliart 09+) with cp 9:1 cr
i have read a post here http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43928
jun cams seems nice but too expensive
in my suzuki swift i have cams from supfly a member on www.teamswift.net that does regrind for 300$ with core exchange
found on the internet that some here asked him to do 1nzfe cams, asked him myself and he said its not worth it on that valve train setup (bucket shims)
so what are my option?
thank you

[NT05]

You have one solid choice: JUN

Other than that you will get what you pay for. Regrinds for street use = time bomb.

Especially after looking around and have found no one with any real reliable proof for regrinds on the 1nz-fe.

Ferrea has complete valve train with springs lockers and seats that work for high rpm and new cams.

The JUN cams are built to last I have a set and the quality is fantastic.

[ilikerice]

Are you a JUN spokes person? Last 5 posts you made have been praising JUN. Granted, they are a good company, but they are a bit pricey. I know a few people who have used regrinds with no issues. Its all about the tune. JUN cams can do the same amount of damage as stock cams can if its not tuned correctly.

But yes. JUN is the only company that makes aftermarket cams for the 1nz. Keep in mind, the profile on those are aggressive and you will have to knotch out the head for clearance.

[NT05]

LOL, not a JUN spokesmen but if I'm going to spend money it's only going to be on quality proven parts. (no matter the cost)

I'll be sending my head out to get machined properly and have the full treatment done.

[ilikerice]

So what vehicle are you building? Yaris LB, Yaris Sedan, xA, xB?

[NT05]

well my family has a rental yard that someone never paid for their spot in the yard for about 6 months so I acquired a Xb.

[fnkngrv]

Web Racing cams can do 1nz cams. If you are concerned whether or not they do good work then all you have to do is talk to ScionCrew on here. They did the cams in his xB that ran 11s or 12s in the quarter running almost 300whp and 20psi of boost. Believe too that his rev limit was set at mid 7000s.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

[bostssgt]

....rev limit was set at mid 7000s.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

7500 rev limit will be good for me too with the 4age blacktop franksmission that i'm building

[Rigaud]

Regrinds are like a band aid or playing russian roulette. It's a hit or miss and always has been, not worth from my own personal experience. Only one way to do a job right.

Some may disagree and not like my opinion but been there and it isn't pretty when things go boom.

[NT05]

Regrinds are crap, they will never hold up like a billet or forged piece. Regrinds are generally used when something is just not available. In this case the only reason to not use real made and proven cams from JUN, is simply you can't afford them. In such case you really shouldn't be building a race motor to begin with. Because if this one mod will leave you broke than the rest of the build is going to suffer as well. As well as when a regrind brakes so does the rest of your motor and then your just out thousands anyways. So build it right and do it once. This is my own opinion and experience from other imitators like GUDE Performance. I figure if going to do something do it right the first time.

[bostssgt]

this is not a "regrind cam, good or bad?" thread!

[ilikerice]

Regrinds are crap, they will never hold up like a billet or forged piece. Regrinds are generally used when something is just not available. In this case the only reason to not use real made and proven cams from JUN, is simply you can't afford them. In such case you really shouldn't be building a race motor to begin with. Because if this one mod will leave you broke than the rest of the build is going to suffer as well. As well as when a regrind brakes so does the rest of your motor and then your just out thousands anyways. So build it right and do it once. This is my own opinion and experience from other imitators like GUDE Performance. I figure if going to do something do it right the first time.

Sorry, but I dissagree. One can still build a motor with top parts and pass on the cam upgrade by just using stock cams.. Pick and choose your parts based on your goals. A motor can still be just as reliable and perform just as good if not better by using the stock camshaft

[NT05]

Sure I agree you can still build a good motor with stock cams BUT Definitely NOT better. Cams are the heart of the motor, they dictate how well the motor breaths. And since this thread is about cam options there really is only one choice: JUN . No one else makes a proven reliable set of cams for the 1nz other than JUN. Sure you can still build a decent motor without them but you'll never get to that big boy power without them.

[ilikerice]

As for the OP. I think you got your answer.

[scioncrew]

WOW! Regrinds are not that bad. Jun is a good brand but their price on the cams are way too high. Most cam manufactor cam prices are from 800-1000 for a set of cams. so far Jun and WEB cam are the only companys making cams for the 1nzfe motor. I my self would go with Web cam it is a very good company reasonably priced i highly recommend them. My motor has been ranning their cams sense 2005 and havent had any problems. hope this helps call Web cams see if they wil still make them and get a quote


Art

[cali yaris]

^ thanks Art, I will give them a call, I wouldn't mind stocking them.

[fnkngrv]

Garm,

Lemme know if you would like me to send you the spec sheet I received from Web on Art's cams.

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[frambach]

This can be deleted. Sorry to clutter.

[bostssgt]

post it!!!!! my alphabet goes ABDC

[cali yaris]

ok guys, I can get Web cams made and have a set going out for turbo applications now.

$700 for a pair, plus a core charge until we get your stock cams back. I will try to keep a pair on my shelf for your turbo 1NZ builds. :thumbsup:

[bostssgt]

wow!! great news! this will be a regrind? bucket shims availlaible? can you post the timming of the cams?
thank you

[bostssgt]

(found on MI .pdf http://www.microimageonline.com/downloads/YARIS/Technical%20Manuals/Engine.pdf)

stock yaris 1nzfe (i belive these are at 0 lift!?!?)
intake-----Open -7deg - 33deg BTDC
-------------Close 52deg - 12deg ABDC
Exhaust---Open 42deg BBDC
------------Close 2deg ATDC

[exileddeus]

That's a really good price. Wish there was a mild N/A option. Lol, i'd love to turbo but being my daily I really need it to pass emissions.

[Scipher]

I'm in the process of lining up and pricing out the necesseties in my project. Currently its stock, new spark plugs haha. My intentions are to mod all the way up to a turbo and significant weight reductions so i can capitalize on the power to weight ratio. Im glad there are more options then just JUN, 1000$ is a tough pill to swallow. Although id be curious to see what the actual differences in longevity, and preformance are if there are any.

[fnkngrv]

I'm in the process of lining up and pricing out the necesseties in my project. Currently its stock, new spark plugs haha. My intentions are to mod all the way up to a turbo and significant weight reductions so i can capitalize on the power to weight ratio. Im glad there are more options then just JUN, 1000$ is a tough pill to swallow. Although id be curious to see what the actual differences in longevity, and preformance are if there are any.

Honestly if you go turbo weight in this car becomes moot. Neither of the two platforms weight over 2400 lbs anyway. Toyota did a really good job on weight.

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[Golddeenoh]

Honestly if you go turbo weight in this car becomes moot. Neither of the two platforms weight over 2400 lbs anyway. Toyota did a really good job on weight.

sent from my m-o-b-i-l-e

but if you can turbo it up to 300whp or more and then drop the weight to around 1800lbs you have a small rocket ship :thumbsup:

[aldorei]

hey, it's the 2NZ-FE camshafts same compare to 1NZ-FE camshafts?

[suprf1y]

I'll try this one more time.

Does anybody know the stock cam specs?