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jamal1984
04-20-2007, 10:35 AM
last night i was looking at cars, and then this Volkswagen Rabbit pop up. Alot of positive thiings about it, the price is not that bad, less than $14k with 0%APR. But horrible gas mileage, 20-26 MPG.

What is your opinions about this Rabbit?

nqd
04-20-2007, 11:19 AM
I was debating on getting that or the yaris but after researching the whole 20MPG issue. i decided to get a yaris. and in the long run gas prices are probably not going to decrease. plus the yaris is cheaper than the rabbit with the power package then the rabbits base MSRP. But i do like the Rabbits Audio set up

Sabretooth
04-20-2007, 12:31 PM
yea, stock rabbit comes with a crap load of options, I dont even think it comes with crank windows/locks... 10 speaker stereo is nice, but IMHO VW is just overpriced, and they arent as reliable as a Toyota, some people swear by them, but I would rather be safe, than paying a ton later... Not to mention I had family who owned a Jetta, brand new, off lot...2 weeks later about 4k in items started to fail, dealer ended up giving them a new car.

brickhardmeat
04-20-2007, 01:24 PM
VW looks nice and I think the older gen cars are much more reliable but I don't have anything good to say about the new ones, they have gotten way to big and fancy for me, and gassing them up sucks big time, I don't miss my golf, Volkswagen is total luxury in the USA, No Polo here:frown:

ColinT
04-20-2007, 01:34 PM
Im a big MK1 VW nerd (check the garage) and all I can say is after the 2 liter 16v GTI they lost it in the US market. The cars became too heavy and frumpy. The main deciding factor in me buying a Yaris is because it reminded me of my old 1984 Rabbit GTI. Will they ever get back to that status, only time will tell.

brickhardmeat
04-20-2007, 01:47 PM
Im a big MK1 VW nerd (check the garage) and all I can say is after the 2 liter 16v GTI they lost it in the US market. The cars became too heavy and frumpy. The main deciding factor in me buying a Yaris is because it reminded me of my old 1984 Rabbit GTI. Will they ever get back to that status, only time will tell.


agreed:thumbsup:

nice jetta and nice wheel choice!

Yaris Revenge
04-20-2007, 02:47 PM
Isn't it funny to think that VW used to be the economy automotive company?

~YR

jamal1984
04-20-2007, 03:01 PM
nowonder why dont see many of them on streets

marcus
04-20-2007, 05:32 PM
test drove this and i think its slower than the yaris... its got a lot of lag.. 5 speed slow pick up on the highway..2.5l engine jetta base, also turbo base on the previous gti models, gas mileage suck..although for a 150 hp car with 180 torque on it sound wicked..race it on an up hill...

brickhardmeat
04-20-2007, 07:12 PM
yes, I don't know what they are thinking as far as the gas mileage, makes no sense to me

I know they have a ton of crap on VW as far as sound proofing and what not and they are quite heavy, I have just lost interest completely with the newer gen

They should bring back the :bow: Classic Beetle! That would get me interested.

ECHOKnight2000
04-20-2007, 10:19 PM
Yeah I agree with what you guys said. My co-worker had a previous gen VW Jetta and from what I read and seen on the road pretty unreliable. Most of them I see one or two taillights out or the brake light doesn't work on one side or even one head light which was the case with my co-worker. From overhearing conversations it seemed he had a lot of problems. He traded it in for the current gen Jetta and I'm not goin got lie I think it looks better and seems to be a better car all around. I also like the new Rabbit but I've read some of the forums and it seems people are getting SUV mileage:thumbdown: :thumbdown: So much for "econo" car. Its actually in the same catagory as the Yaris and FIT etc. Because the Jetta competes with the Corolla and the Passat with the Camry or at least in that catagory. From my understanding. Although the new GTi is damn sexy IMO:headbang: I think VW does plan a TDI Rabbit I know they do for the Jetta but if the Rabbit got better mileage then I would consider one. But I wouldn't touch a VW as far as ownership at least not in the near future.

Vervepipes
04-21-2007, 10:14 PM
The only VW I consedered was the CityGolf and CityJetta because of thier low price, but they didnt get nearly as good fuel economy as the Yaris and I hear new VW's are very dealer dependant, not to mention the price for parts... The CityGolf and CityJetta BTW is the last generation Golf and Jetta sold as '07/08's with large price cuts, sold as bare basics cars

SailDesign
04-21-2007, 10:27 PM
I used to have a VW Fox, great car for $2500, lasted for 10 years in my hands with a heavy right foot. Came stock with 81hp, so heavy foot needed. By the time it went, it was up to about 100hp, and had reasonably decent rubber on Audi 4000 rims. The reason I love the Yaris is that it feels like the Fox - hand-wind windows, manual box, base level comforts with good-enough handling but not much power. Corners are way more interesting than straights anyway :smile:
Modern VWs just don't have the same feel, adn are so heavy that the new Jetta with 50% more horsepower than the Yaris is just as slow because it has 50% more weight as well.

ECHOKnight2000
04-21-2007, 11:51 PM
but one thing i dont like it and i dont know why, is that the 07 VW rabbit has a 2.5L L-5 20V engine, why only produce 150HP?? shouldn't it produce nearly 200HP?

The Rabbit is suppose to compete with cars like the Yaris and FIT. I know, I know much more powerful and higher starting price but it comes pretty loaded as well. Yes the Rabbit comes with 200bhp...its called the GTI:evil: :eyebulge: Nice car! Anyway hope that anwsers your question.:thumbsup:

PetersRedYaris
04-22-2007, 01:02 AM
I have a friend with an 03' Passat wagon and the windshield wipers don't work. :eek: What the hell? It's actually his wife's and she has to borrow his old Volvo when it rains. :laugh: They should have bought a Toyota. I don't understand the following VW has; their cars drive very nice but their reliability is shit.

eTiMaGo
04-22-2007, 10:01 AM
And why in the world do they call the car a Rabbit in the US instead of the Golf? Some people might get confused and think the car started the Gulf War?

Which sounds cooler...

-Hi, I have a Yaris
-Oh, nice car!

or

-Hi, I have a Rabbit
-Oh how cute, can I pet it?

Sorry about that, just semi-related mini-rant

brickhardmeat
04-22-2007, 10:11 AM
ha, originally it was the rabbit then they changed it to golf now certainly because of the terrible ailment of nostalgia in the us we have returned to calling it rabbit

I think if they wanted to change the name back to rabbit they should have made a car much more like Yaris

small, reliable, affordable, fun to drive and peppy, even a little squirrly that is what rabbit was and now that is what Yaris is

spkrman
04-22-2007, 01:32 PM
And why in the world do they call the car a Rabbit in the US instead of the Golf? Some people might get confused and think the car started the Gulf War?

Which sounds cooler...

-Hi, I have a Yaris
-Oh, nice car!

or

-Hi, I have a Rabbit
-Oh how cute, can I pet it?

Sorry about that, just semi-related mini-rant

lmao

why did I just get the image of a very manly crossdresser saying "Oh how cute, can I pet it?"

:drinking:

ECHOKnight2000
04-22-2007, 04:23 PM
yea but GTI is a L-4 16V Turbo Charged engined, it is a totally different set up compare to L-5 20V NA engine.

Really? I guess I stand corrected. Well its the same body type but different engine setup and suspension etc or pretty much a souped up Rabbit or performance version like the Si is to Civic. Okay technically its a 200bhp Rabbit...er GTI.

Going along with what others mentioned, they changed the name to Rabbit again not only to bring back "memories" but also to reach out to a new generation at least that's what they want you to believe.:tongue:

elsteverino889
04-23-2007, 12:37 AM
My friend just got the 2007 GTI and that thing is amazing. He hits the gas and you feel your head jurk back to the head rest. And I drive my girls 2006 VW jetta 2.5 and that thing is alot faster than the yaris and the price difference isnt much. Depends what your looking for fuel economy or speed.

But also taken from Wikipedia.org this may change your mind about the Rabbit:

"The Golf 5 has proven expensive to build - largely due to its uncommonly long 50-hour build time. According to multiple reports in the European press, its replacement is thus likely to be rolled out in 2008, a good two years earlier than originally scheduled. This means that the production run of the U.S. version of the Mark 5, introduced only in 2006 two years after its world debut - is likely to have an uncommonly short production run."

nsmitchell
04-23-2007, 09:53 AM
but one thing i dont like it and i dont know why, is that the 07 VW rabbit has a 2.5L L-5 20V engine, why only produce 150HP?? shouldn't it produce nearly 200HP?
One would think so. That is pathetic!

marcus
04-23-2007, 12:39 PM
now rabbit with the gti 1.8 l engine i dont mind having..i actually like that turbo setup rather than the 2.5 or 2.0 liter..well rabbit with turbo is the GTI!! they are great cars.. i believe the R32 its their 4 wheel drive about 240 hp..didnt that came out in us 2 years ago never made to canada though but i think they are bringing it in..soon.oh well i got my yaris..just need to supercharge it..