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bronsin
11-04-2014, 04:25 PM
$2.61 and dropping fast in NJ near Philly! :eek:

IllusionX
11-04-2014, 04:28 PM
Still 4$ the gallon here...

vrait
11-04-2014, 04:53 PM
2.78
Florida

LTHatch
11-04-2014, 05:01 PM
$2.69 slightly further north than you good sir.

nookandcrannycar
11-04-2014, 05:30 PM
Cheapest credit card price in our metro is at a Kroger Marketplace just outside The Woodlands - $ 2.30 9/10 ($2.33 9/10 - 3 cents per gallon w/Kroger Loyalty Card). The cheapest cash price happens to be only a few blocks away - $2.25 9/10.

matti
11-04-2014, 08:53 PM
$3.07 here in northern MN. It was $2.76 about two weeks ago, as I recall.

Exiwolfman
11-04-2014, 09:47 PM
1.20 per litter here

clint
11-04-2014, 10:09 PM
1.03 a lite here in airdrie alberta

Exiwolfman
11-04-2014, 10:14 PM
Collingwood,Ontario and our price goes up and down 1.20 is low feel sorry for ppl that need high octane at 1.45 per litter glad I drive a Yaris lol

bronsin
11-05-2014, 05:57 AM
Filled up this AM $2.59 per gallon...thats 2 cents less than yesterday. Was debating to wait until the tank went to blinking icon (it was half full) but dont want to run out of gas!

dj92
11-05-2014, 06:24 AM
1,23€/l for me atm
http://www.aral.de/de_lu/luxembourg/kraftstoffe-und-preise/aktuelle-kraftstoffpreise.html

Ryze268
11-05-2014, 08:23 AM
$14.99 XCD per gallon

mario98c
11-05-2014, 09:30 AM
77 cents per liter.

bronsin
11-05-2014, 09:53 AM
$14.99 XCD per gallon

Whats "XCD" and whats that in American $ ?

Thanks!

phaznet
11-05-2014, 11:48 AM
About $1.15/Liter, or $4.35/Gallons

Ryze268
11-05-2014, 07:50 PM
Whats "XCD" and whats that in American $ ?

Thanks!

$5.55 USD per gallon

fourbangingfun
11-05-2014, 10:04 PM
2.90 in MA


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why?
11-06-2014, 06:49 AM
it really depends. About half an hour one way it is around $2.99, or probably less. In the other direction yesterday went anywhere from $3.29 to $3.45. But I guarantee there is a station in a rich snob community not far from me where it is still over $4 a gallon.

KCALB SIRAY
11-06-2014, 10:36 AM
In DC it's still over $3.20 here. BUT go 6 miles either direction and it's $2.70.

IllusionX
11-06-2014, 11:24 AM
Gas is at 1.239$/Liter right now.

nookandcrannycar
11-07-2014, 11:12 AM
Cheapest credit card price in our metro is at a Kroger Marketplace just outside The Woodlands - $ 2.30 9/10 ($2.33 9/10 - 3 cents per gallon w/Kroger Loyalty Card). The cheapest cash price happens to be only a few blocks away - $2.25 9/10.

I stopped at this station last night....still the cheapest credit card price in our metro and the price had dropped 2 cents to $2.31 9/10 without the loyalty card. I entered the phone number for the loyalty card, and had enough fuel points (from purchases) to get a 10 cent per gallon discount.....rather than the 3 cents per gallon I'd get with zero fuel points, so I paid $2.21 9/10 USD per gallon....less than the cheapest cash price as well.

bebeelo
11-09-2014, 03:35 AM
$3.09 liter in northern California

G-Ammo
11-10-2014, 05:16 PM
1,45 euro's in belgium and 1,60 euro's in holland (all per litre!)

The Limo 2
11-10-2014, 09:46 PM
Gas 1.129 CAD and diesel 1.369 CAD per litre in Chilliwack today.

nookandcrannycar
11-11-2014, 11:36 PM
$3.09 liter in northern California

:eek:.....Don't you mean $3.09 per U.S. gallon?

bebeelo
11-12-2014, 12:53 AM
Lol i stand corrected��

bronsin
11-12-2014, 05:53 AM
Gas is still $2.59 at the Exxon station where I get it. But across the street at Hess it went up from $2.61 to $2.71 this AM.

Im wondering whats up with that? :iono:

Eduardo_mty
11-12-2014, 10:32 AM
Wich is the "best" brand (texaco , shell , valero) of fuel, i will go to USA in december or only use more cheaper.

Any fuel that sold in USA is much much better than mexican fuel

nookandcrannycar
11-12-2014, 11:38 PM
Gas is still $2.59 at the Exxon station where I get it. But across the street at Hess it went up from $2.61 to $2.71 this AM.

Im wondering whats up with that? :iono:

When I've stayed in East Brunswick, the Hess station is usually more expensive than the others along that part of RT 18 :frown:.....haven't noticed if that trend follows in other parts of NJ where I've filled up.

bronsin
11-13-2014, 06:12 AM
Wich is the "best" brand (texaco , shell , valero) of fuel, i will go to USA in december or only use more cheaper.

Any fuel that sold in USA is much much better than mexican fuel

I believe any name brand will do. I use Exxon or Shell. Stay away from generic gas stations!

bronsin
11-13-2014, 06:14 AM
When I've stayed in East Brunswick, the Hess station is usually more expensive than the others along that part of RT 18 :frown:.....haven't noticed if that trend follows in other parts of NJ where I've filled up.


Just that the price went UP suddenly at Hess when it was a few cents higher than at Exxon. I fear a return to high prices! :frown:

hondajt
11-13-2014, 11:30 AM
in northern cincinnati ohio, its between 2.90 and 3.00 per gallon.

I'm really enjoying NO change in driving habits (aggressive) and still getting 30 mpg

vivalaflam
11-16-2014, 06:48 PM
To all of you saying prices are high, I laugh at you. Here in Serres, Greece, BP had gas for 1.799 EUR/litre. Others 1.629 EUR/litre. Thats for last month.
As of today, most gas stations reduced their prices. Where I put gas from, Shell, has it for 1.525 EUR/litre atm, while BP stays high at 1.699.
I dont really understand why such difference, but BP has still some loyal customers. Strange.

nookandcrannycar
11-16-2014, 09:11 PM
To all of you saying prices are high, I laugh at you. Here in Serres, Greece, BP had gas for 1.799 EUR/litre. Others 1.629 EUR/litre. Thats for last month.
As of today, most gas stations reduced their prices. Where I put gas from, Shell, has it for 1.525 EUR/litre atm, while BP stays high at 1.699.
I dont really understand why such difference, but BP has still some loyal customers. Strange.

Do you have any idea what portion of that 1.525 EUR/litre = taxes ?

bronsin
11-17-2014, 06:00 AM
$2.57 this am! another new low! CAnt wait to fill up! :headbang:

vivalaflam
11-17-2014, 11:49 AM
Do you have any idea what portion of that 1.525 EUR/litre = taxes ?

the tax is appx. 1 eur/litre

nookandcrannycar
11-17-2014, 07:41 PM
the tax is appx. 1 eur/litre

Almost 2/3 of the total :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: SMH, SMH, SMH, SMH, SMH.

nobodywise
11-18-2014, 12:04 AM
You guys might think I'm crazy but Where I live, we have to import fuel.

The price is 5.62ci which is 6.87us per gallon.

I will take a picture tomorrow

rye7jen
11-18-2014, 03:43 AM
Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia:

90 oct = 0.12cents USD /litre
95 oct = 0.17cents USD /litre

:biggrin:

vivalaflam
11-18-2014, 06:45 AM
Almost 2/3 of the total :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: SMH, SMH, SMH, SMH, SMH.
Actually, I just asked a gas station clerk how much profit there is for them. And its 8 cents per litre! Imagine that.

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why?
11-19-2014, 10:52 AM
Actually, I just asked a gas station clerk how much profit there is for them. And its 8 cents per litre! Imagine that.

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That is actually pretty high too. Some stations run off of a lot less profit per gallon.

The world over the majority of the price for gas is taxes. Really pathetic. Without taxes gas would be what it is in Saudi Arabia.

vivalaflam
11-22-2014, 03:09 AM
A new low by today, I saw gas at €1.49x/litre! I really hope we go back to the times when gas was at €0.89/litre (like 10 years ago haha)

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Bluevitz-rs
11-22-2014, 08:48 AM
Gas is all the way down to $1.064CND/L now when I filled up last night.

matti
11-22-2014, 09:31 AM
It's down to $2.58/gallon here in northern MN.

nookandcrannycar
12-10-2014, 02:21 AM
I paid $2.16 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon on Monday 12/8/14 in Tomball,TX. This was the 3rd cheapest price within the Houston Metro. One station had a cash price of $2.09 9/10 and another station had a credit card price of $2.15 9/10.

MyzticZ3r0
12-10-2014, 04:29 AM
2.69 here in las vegas, nv =]

bronsin
12-10-2014, 05:51 AM
$2.45 this am is South Jersey.

If we had $2.10 gas here people might start to get optimistic in their daily outlooks!

vivalaflam
12-10-2014, 07:29 AM
New low by today: €1.454/litre.... Things get interesting...

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Eduardo_mty
12-10-2014, 07:37 AM
$13.44 mexican peso per litre, And go up month to month

(1 usd per litre)

Bluevitz-rs
12-10-2014, 09:16 AM
Didn't think I'd ever see it under a dollar again.
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vivalaflam
12-10-2014, 10:18 AM
Wow.... I just wish we had these prices lol

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KCALB SIRAY
12-10-2014, 11:06 AM
Down to $2.60 a gallon on Sunday at Costco. I can remember paying $0.70 when I was younger...sigh

Jcp123
12-10-2014, 11:41 AM
Around $2.379 in this area. I was paying about $1.20 or so when I first started driving. And that was still in this millennium! Lol

That takes my fuel cost/mi down to about 6 cents.

vivalaflam
12-10-2014, 02:48 PM
But remember thats per gallon! I pay that much per litre! A gallon is around 3 litres.... Calculate that

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DJYojimbo
12-10-2014, 03:45 PM
Citgo gas here is 2.77 per gallon located at a suburb of chicago

nookandcrannycar
12-11-2014, 02:11 AM
Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia:

90 oct = 0.12cents USD /litre
95 oct = 0.17cents USD /litre

:biggrin:

:thumbsup:

I'm only really envious of one person (a friend, and one of two roommates in a 3 bedroom apartment) , and it's because he had experiences over a 3 year period that no one can ever have again re permanent changes due to war. Between 1988 and 1991 he would work a crazy number of hours for four months at two different jobs (lifeguard..employed by the state...at a state beach in California...and his other job was working as an EMT). He lived very frugally during those 4 months and then traveled very frugally the other 8 months of those years. He concentrated on Asia, Africa, and on remote island nations. He dressed up as a local and found a way to get into Afghanistan. He visited Babylon...and many other places in Iraq. He got pelted by rocks in Nablus after being seen having a conversation with an Israeli soldier..and had to run for cover. Those are the crazy jaunts I recall most easily.

I remember, on one of the postcards he sent to me during this period, he indicated that gas in Saudi Arabia (another one of the countries he visited) was the equivalent of 12 cents USD per U.S. Gallon, rather than the 12 cents USD per liter/litre it is today.

ebaut
12-11-2014, 02:56 PM
I filled up a 0.97 /L and saw one gas station selling it for 0.96 /L today. That's the cheapest I have seen it in many, many years.

nookandcrannycar
12-12-2014, 07:09 AM
:thumbsup:

I'm only really envious of one person (a friend, and one of two roommates in a 3 bedroom apartment*****) , and it's because he had experiences over a 3 year period that no one can ever have again re permanent changes due to war. Between 1988 and 1991 he would work a crazy number of hours for four months at two different jobs (lifeguard..employed by the state...at a state beach in California...and his other job was working as an EMT). He lived very frugally during those 4 months and then traveled very frugally the other 8 months of those years. He concentrated on Asia, Africa, and on remote island nations. He dressed up as a local and found a way to get into Afghanistan. He visited Babylon...and many other places in Iraq. He got pelted by rocks in Nablus after being seen having a conversation with an Israeli soldier..and had to run for cover. Those are the crazy jaunts I recall most easily.

I remember, on one of the postcards he sent to me during this period, he indicated that gas in Saudi Arabia (another one of the countries he visited) was the equivalent of 12 cents USD per U.S. Gallon, rather than the 12 cents USD per liter/litre it is today.

***** = 1986-1988 (Ugh...just meant to edit previous post, not create a new one......)

......but while I'm at it :biggrin:.....

Last week (IIRC) I saw a gas price feature on the local news (NYC Metro station). The feature wasn't about NY/NJ area gas prices, it was about a group of gas stations in Oklahoma City (apparently all in the same neighborhood) that had lowered their prices for regular grade gas to $1.99 USD per U.S. gallon. A harbinger of things to come?

nookandcrannycar
12-15-2014, 10:09 AM
Last night, on a Dallas radio station, one of the talk show hosts mentioned that the gas station in downtown Dallas that had lowered it's price for 97 octane to $1.99 (USD per U.S. Gallon), had multiple people at a time just managing the lines for a good portion of the weekend.

I needed gas this morning, and checked Gas Buddy. The 15 cheapest stations in the Houston Metro ranged from $1.95 USD per U.S. Gallon to $2.09 per U.S. Gallon. Only three of those = North of Interstate 10 (the northern half of the Houston Metro), and only one of those in my neck of the woods....a Sam's Club...I'm not a member. I plugged in a local zip code...and the prices were outrageous (cheapest $2.38 9/10), given other locations. Fortunately, Gas Buddy has a 'new' feature (at least new to me :biggrin:) that includes zip codes close to the one the user searched :thumbsup:. This revealed two stations in the same block at $2.17 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. I stopped at one of those stations. A bit over 40.32 MPG for the tank. Included more city driving than usual.

bronsin
12-16-2014, 07:26 AM
$2.34 this am here in SJ.

nookandcrannycar
12-23-2014, 11:06 AM
$ 1.86 9/10 USD per U.S. Gallon at a Kroger in Cypress, TX last night. This was 4th cheapest in the Houston Metro....3 stations tied for the cheapest at $ 1.83 9/10 USD per U.S. Gallon. MPG for the tank = 41.186570

bronsin
12-23-2014, 11:56 AM
Unreal.

$2.25 here this am.

The Exxon station I frequent has closed. Its gas price sign stuck on $2.53.

I wonder why?

Also, I wonder when the bounce back to rising prices will happen?

nookandcrannycar
12-23-2014, 03:57 PM
Unreal.

$2.25 here this am.

The Exxon station I frequent has closed. Its gas price sign stuck on $2.53.

I wonder why?

Also, I wonder when the bounce back to rising prices will happen?

Did the Exxon station have a store?....Almost a necessity, and perhaps the store wasn't doing well enough.

I remember at one point in the last 6 1/2 years the amount my cousin, 7 to 10 miles north of San Francisco, was paying was $1.00-$1.10 or so per gallon more than I was paying here.

When will prices rise again? It will be interesting to see how things play out. Heavily influenced by fracking, one has to go back to 1987 to see U.S. net crude oil and petroleum product imports at levels this low. With that, slowing demand in China and Europe, and other factors, the price of Brent crude fell over 25 percent from June to mid November. Saudi Arabia may be trying to retain market share by undercutting American producers. Saudi Arabia may be trying to make fracking unprofitable. If they could accomplish that, some rigs would go offline, supply would be reduced, and there would be room for more Saudi imports in the U.S. market.

nortonfb
12-23-2014, 05:39 PM
I never thought I see under $2 a gallon, but it's here.
The economy has improved too, coincidence?
Norton

vivalaflam
12-23-2014, 05:47 PM
I never thought I see under $2 a gallon, but it's here.
The economy has improved too, coincidence?
Norton
I cannot imagine one complaining in the usa for the gas price.... Lets say its 2$/gallon.
Here it dropped by 20cents.... From €1,60+ to 1,43+ PER LITRE. A gallon is 3,785 litres. Imagine that. Also note that the average salary is 500€.

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nookandcrannycar
12-23-2014, 11:59 PM
I never thought I see under $2 a gallon, but it's here.
The economy has improved too, coincidence?
Norton

I remember thumbing through my 2007 Yaris logbook last summer and noticing that gas was under $2.00 per gallon during part of the last quarter of 2008. Of course that was soon after Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy, and demand was 'cratering'.

nookandcrannycar
12-24-2014, 01:16 AM
I cannot imagine one complaining in the usa for the gas price.... Lets say its 2$/gallon.
Here it dropped by 20cents.... From €1,60+ to 1,43+ PER LITRE. A gallon is 3,785 litres. Imagine that. Also note that the average salary is 500€.

Not to mention that your debt to GDP ratio is the highest in the Eurozone at 177 percent....but you have Santorini :wub:, and other treasures. Plus, if the European Commission is correct, your debt to GDP ratio will be down to 112 percent by 2022.

Re complaining, IMO, one of the roots of some of the ills that fester within American society is a general lack of gratitude. Sometimes this afflicts some of those who should be most grateful, who instead WHINE and COMPLAIN. I am a lifelong San Francisco 49ers AND Oakland Raiders fan. Some people are rabid fans of one, and NOT the other. Stereotypically, Raiders fans are considered more blue collar. Some rabid Raiders fans refer to 49ers fans as the 'WHINE and cheese crowd' (mocking the phrase 'wine and cheese crowd').

Jcp123
12-24-2014, 01:18 AM
$2.099 around here. Exactly $0.10 more than when I first moved here in '05. At that time, gasoline was seeing its initial surge, it was $2.429/g when I left California a week earlier. These are the lowest prices I have seen in a good while.

It won't last.

Saudi Arabia is trying to put both American frackers and ISIS black marketeers out of business. I see this lasting a year or so, two at the most.

I
Am enjoying the sub-six-cents-per-mile while it lasts.

bronsin
12-24-2014, 06:01 AM
Did the Exxon station have a store?....Almost a necessity, and perhaps the store wasn't doing well enough.

Yes it did have a convienence store but that part closed a couple of years ago.

Living in Camden is like living in the 3rd World in many ways. It a jungle!

nookandcrannycar
12-24-2014, 11:23 AM
Living in Camden is like living in the 3rd World in many ways. It a jungle!

:laugh:. I remember, in 2006, trying to find a turn that I needed to make in Camden. I stopped at a gas station to ask the clerk about the turn. He had no clue, but I did learn that he had lived there for 10 years. I eventually found the turn. It was very close by....a few blocks away. I remember shaking my head that a guy could live in a neighborhood for 10 years and know so little about the neighborhood.

bronsin
12-25-2014, 06:42 AM
When I moved here in the 80s I had an enduro motorcycle which I used to ride in what we call the Pinewoods in South Jersey towards the shore. But I worked in Camden and thought it would be adventurous to ride around the town as there are so many bombed WW2 type neighborhoods. Its a lot closer too. Big mistake! Whereas the downtown area is actually pretty safe the neighborhoods are not. The first red light I came to there were half a dozen young males hanging out there. They looked barely able to control their urge to hit me over the head and take my bike! I got out of there pronto and abandoned my adventure.

However, gangs of like 50 residents are often seen riding their (illegal) dirt bikes around the city, both two and four wheelers. They can ride for miles in wheelie fashion.

sickpuppy1
12-25-2014, 08:48 AM
$1.83 on Missouri side, 1.97 on Kansas side. state taxes are the difference

bronsin
12-25-2014, 05:53 PM
NJ is seriously considering raising its gas tax which pays for infrastructure like roads and bridges.

I guess this is a good time....:confused:

nookandcrannycar
12-25-2014, 11:48 PM
NJ is seriously considering raising its gas tax which pays for infrastructure like roads and bridges.

I guess this is a good time....:confused:

If that happens, will the increased revenue from such taxes really end up creating the desired result? While it was a donation, rather than revenue from a tax, it has been reported that Zuckerberg's 100 million dollar donation to help the Newark, NJ public school system has largely been eaten up by payments to people whose impact toward improvement is questionable. New York has the highest gas tax in the nation, and in my experience, the roads are better in Connecticut and in New Jersey than they are in New York.

DebbyM46227
12-26-2014, 06:20 AM
I never thought I see under $2 a gallon, but it's here.
The economy has improved too, coincidence?
Norton

Not here it hasn't. I've been laid off since July and every secretarial-type job I apply for, there are roughly 80 others I have to compete with.

Gas is $1.94 here.

brg88tx
12-26-2014, 10:57 AM
$1.95 Houston area

The Limo 2
12-26-2014, 01:46 PM
Regular gas is $3.78 CAD a US gallon ($0.999 CAD a litre) here in Chilliwack this morning.

nookandcrannycar
12-26-2014, 03:22 PM
Regular gas is $3.78 CAD a US gallon ($0.999 CAD a litre) here in Chilliwack this morning.

^^^^^ $ 3.25 1/10 USD vs the $ 1.86 9/10 USD I just paid. I imagine much of the difference = taxes. Do you feel the quality of the road construction and maintenance is at a level that gives you good value for the extra cost?...Genuinely curious (not looking to grind a political axe :biggrin:). I wish I had paid more attention to this while driving in BC. The only place I remember having any issues was on the drive up to Whistler. That was to be expected though, as they were in the process of widening the highway re the 2010 Olympics.

dj92
12-26-2014, 04:08 PM
We also got a significant drop, it is 1,08€/l or 4,98$/gal here ATM.

vivalaflam
12-26-2014, 04:12 PM
Where would that be? Germany?

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dj92
12-26-2014, 07:35 PM
Luxemburg - close to my homebase ;)

The Limo 2
12-27-2014, 06:38 PM
Nook
I think most (or all) of the tax money goes into general revenue of the Provincial and Federal governments. This helps pay for medical/health, education and social service costs. The three main tax grabs are on vehicle fuel, tobacco and alcohol.
As an example, at birth, we all get a medical card that covers doctors, hospital services plus any hospital supplies while in hospital. While we do complain about taxes, we do get some services.
My biggest complaint is that in the Greater Vancouver Regional District they pay an extra 17 cents a litre in transit tax, yet the difference in price between were I live (outside the GVRD) and the GVRD is 9 cents a litre. Why am I paying an extra 8 cents a litre.
Roy

nookandcrannycar
12-28-2014, 09:20 AM
Nook
I think most (or all) of the tax money goes into general revenue of the Provincial and Federal governments. This helps pay for medical/health, education and social service costs. The three main tax grabs are on vehicle fuel, tobacco and alcohol.
As an example, at birth, we all get a medical card that covers doctors, hospital services plus any hospital supplies while in hospital. While we do complain about taxes, we do get some services.
My biggest complaint is that in the Greater Vancouver Regional District they pay an extra 17 cents a litre in transit tax, yet the difference in price between were I live (outside the GVRD) and the GVRD is 9 cents a litre. Why am I paying an extra 8 cents a litre.
Roy

:thumbsup: Do taxes on tobacco and alcohol also vary by location? A gas station attendant in New Jersey (can't remember if in was between 2006-2010 or in 2013) told me that New Jersey is able to have a lower gas tax than nearby states because they make up for it by having a higher tax on packs of cigarettes.

The Limo 2
12-28-2014, 11:35 AM
Mainly it is the Provincial governments that set most of the taxes on alcohol and tobacco. So while the taxes are the same in all of BC, taxes in other provinces are different so the prices are different.
Roy

nookandcrannycar
12-28-2014, 11:46 AM
Mainly it is the Provincial governments that set most of the taxes on alcohol and tobacco. So while the taxes are the same in all of BC, taxes in other provinces are different so the prices are different.
Roy

:thumbsup: Higher, I imagine, than in say...SK. I drove from Edmonton to Saskatoon. As soon as I crossed the border into SK....:eyebulge::eek:....the road!

bronsin
12-29-2014, 05:56 AM
$2.19 this am Lukoil. Putin wants your business!

nookandcrannycar
12-29-2014, 04:23 PM
Putin wants your business!

:laugh:

nortonfb
12-29-2014, 05:27 PM
$1.85 !
Shocked.
Norton

The Limo 2
12-29-2014, 08:25 PM
Looked up some information about taxes on gasoline in GVRD. This is for the month of April 2013 (newest info I could find). Money in CAD.

After tax pump price per litre $1.39
Cost to fill up a 64 litre gas tank $88.96 (just under 17 US gallons)

Provincial taxes:
Consumption tax $5.44
Carbon tax $4.27
Transit tax (GVRD) $10.88
Sub Total $20.59

Federal Tax
Excise tax $6.40
GST tax $4.17
Sub Total $10.57

Combined tax total $31.16
Just over 35%
Roy

nookandcrannycar
12-29-2014, 09:22 PM
Looked up some information about taxes on gasoline in GVRD. This is for the month of April 2013 (newest info I could find). Money in CAD.

After tax pump price per litre $1.39
Cost to fill up a 64 litre gas tank $88.96 (just under 17 US gallons)

Provincial taxes:
Consumption tax $5.44
Carbon tax $4.27
Transit tax (GVRD) $10.88
Sub Total $20.59

Federal Tax
Excise tax $6.40
GST tax $4.17
Sub Total $10.57

Combined tax total $31.16
Just over 35%
Roy

:thumbsup: Wow. Thanks.

nookandcrannycar
12-29-2014, 09:25 PM
Analyst expects gas prices will remain this low for at least another 6 months...and may even go a bit lower during some of that period:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/how-long-will-gas-prices-stay-low/ar-BBhkxMF

vivalaflam
12-29-2014, 09:54 PM
Greek pump price breakdown: as of 19 december
http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/29/e383d69811ee10be1e215c84b7dff947.jpg


Black: pump price (avg)
Red: gas station profit
Blue: taxes
Green: base refinery price


Thats after the prices went down.
Before, taxes were the same .95€/L and profit was about .08€/L
Thats why it shows such huge profits.

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nookandcrannycar
12-30-2014, 04:42 AM
Filled up last night. Same station as the one from my post #61 on this thread.

$ 1.69 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon.....dropped 17 cents per gallon in 1 week. This station is now the 3rd cheapest in the Houston metro area...tied with another Kroger.

The cheapest station in the Houston metro = $ 1.63 USD per U.S. Gallon.

bronsin
12-30-2014, 06:14 AM
$1.63! Could we see 99 cents again? My very first fillup (10 gallons of gas in a VW Beetle in 1974) was $3.

Would 29 cents a gallon be a good thing? All things considered?

Bluevitz-rs
12-30-2014, 08:12 AM
So what's it actually cost you guys to fill up from empty now


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vivalaflam
12-30-2014, 08:31 AM
So what's it actually cost you guys to fill up from empty now


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65±5€ for the yaris in greece. That would be around 80USD

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The Limo 2
12-30-2014, 03:48 PM
Right from empty would be just under $42CAD, just over $36USD. Less than 1/2 of what you pay in Greece. I may stop complaining about paying taxes for at least 48 hours.
Roy

vivalaflam
12-30-2014, 05:48 PM
Right from empty would be just under $42CAD, just over $36USD. Less than 1/2 of what you pay in Greece. I may stop complaining about paying taxes for at least 48 hours.
Roy
You and everyone in north america 😂

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bronsin
12-31-2014, 06:15 AM
Right from empty would be just under $42CAD, just over $36USD. Less than 1/2 of what you pay in Greece. I may stop complaining about paying taxes for at least 48 hours.
Roy

Keep complaining or we will end up like Greece! :eek:

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 08:52 AM
$1.63! Could we see 99 cents again? My very first fillup (10 gallons of gas in a VW Beetle in 1974) was $3.

:laugh: I remember sitting on the passenger side of the bench seat in my mother's convertible sometime in the late 60s or early 70s and pulling into the 76 station at what we called the 'bottom of the hill' (our downtown area was flat, but surrounded by hills/mountains). IIRC, gas was under 20 cents USD per gallon...and it was all full serve...and the attendants weren't young. We didn't get a self serve station until sometime in the mid to late 70s. For some reason, I also remember filling my own tank at a station in a different part of California (in Irvine) in 1982 and paying $1.65 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon.

Would 29 cents a gallon be a good thing? All things considered?

Not here. This isn't the late 1980s (:eek: As much as I love the Houston area, I don't know if I would have wanted to be here at that time). The economy is now a lot more diverse. However, low oil prices still have a deleterious effect. From what I've read...discussions on other sites...some companies have already adjusted, or are starting to adjust, their operations to reflect the decline in the price of oil, resulting in more layoffs. As much as I hate to spend any more than I have to per mile, higher oil prices are more beneficial to me personally. While some of this is due to the economy in general and some due to my proximity to new roads being built, my house (since 2008) has gone up in value more than my total expenditure on gas will be for the next 20 years. The most I've ever paid here is $3.93 USD per U.S. gallon...and that was when people in parts of California and New York were paying over $5.00 USD per U.S. gallon.

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 09:03 AM
So what's it actually cost you guys to fill up from empty now


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My last two fill-ups have been $19.59 and $19.46 USD.

lenzomaru
12-31-2014, 09:27 AM
Costs me $18US to fill my tank here in Trinidad and Tobago
42 Cents US per litre
A 2007 Basic model Yaris costs 23,256 US

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 09:31 AM
I may stop complaining about paying taxes for at least 48 hours.
Roy

:bellyroll:

I complain about Federal taxes, but when it comes to state and local....Texans can't really complain :thumbsup:. No State Income Tax, low car registration fees, low LLC setup fees, etc. We aren't feeding, proportionally, the huge public employee salary and pension beast that some other states face :eek:. We have a high property tax rate, but you get a good 'bang for your buck' here. Plus, you have the option of buying in an older area (with a lower rate) and can reduce your property tax expenditure by buying a less expensive property. Plus, more local control/input (higher property taxes vs. having a state income tax), unlike California (don't get me started on the multiple Serrano decisions :eek:). After dealing with the Assessor's Office in my county (population just over 500,000)...a positive experience...I empathize with people in adjacent Harris County (population over 4,000,000...the 3rd most populous county in the U.S.). I'd imagine dealing with that Assessor's Office = :eek:.

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 09:41 AM
Costs me $18US to fill my tank here in Trinidad and Tobago
42 Cents US per litre

Wow. A few pennies less (when converted to U.S. gallons) than the lowest price here.


A 2007 Basic model Yaris costs 23,256 US

:eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

(If you mean costs (currently), then ^^^^. If you mean cost in 2007, remove two eye bulges and two eeks :biggrin:)

WeeYari
12-31-2014, 11:02 AM
Not here. This isn't the late 1980s (:eek: As much as I love the Houston area, I don't know if I would have wanted to be here at that time). The economy is now a lot more diverse. However, low oil prices still have a deleterious effect. From what I've read...discussions on other sites...some companies have already adjusted, or are starting to adjust, their operations to reflect the decline in the price of oil, resulting in more layoffs. As much as I hate to spend any more than I have to per mile, higher oil prices are more beneficial to me personally. While some of this is due to the economy in general and some due to my proximity to new roads being built, my house (since 2008) has gone up in value more than my total expenditure on gas will be for the next 20 years. The most I've ever paid here is $3.93 USD per U.S. gallon...and that was when people in parts of California and New York were paying over $5.00 USD per U.S. gallon.

About time someone started to address the fact that while yes, saving some at the pump feels good, there is such a thing as too low. That is where we are now. Too low. I personally have got to consume a whole lot of fuel to offset the negative economic impact of this current oil situation. As it currently sits, there are only a couple of oil producing countries that can still make a per barrel profit, while many more are facing serious economic hardships as their profit points are north of $75-$100 per barrel.

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 12:14 PM
About time someone started to address the fact that while yes, saving some at the pump feels good, there is such a thing as too low. That is where we are now. Too low. I personally have got to consume a whole lot of fuel to offset the negative economic impact of this current oil situation. As it currently sits, there are only a couple of oil producing countries that can still make a per barrel profit, while many more are facing serious economic hardships as their profit points are north of $75-$100 per barrel.

:thumbsup:

Geopolitically, the only things (off the top of my head) that I like about the current situation......that Putin (quite a bully, IMO) will be reaching for more TUMS Antacid :biggrin:, and (in a different part of the world of course) that there is likely much hand wringing going on within the Venezuelan government.

The Limo 2
12-31-2014, 01:42 PM
Isn't this all political? The POTUS and his western allies getting Saudi Arabia to produce more oil than is needed so they can poke a sharp stick, where it hurts, into Vlad the Invader.

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 05:26 PM
Isn't this all political? The POTUS and his western allies getting Saudi Arabia to produce more oil than is needed so they can poke a sharp stick, where it hurts, into Vlad the Invader.

Putin thinks that is a possibility. The Saudi Oil Minister and the UAE Petroleum Minister say no:

http://www.4thmedia.org/2014/12/irreversible-decline-did-the-u-s-and-the-saudis-conspire-to-push-down-oil-prices/

NEexpat
12-31-2014, 05:39 PM
I filled up in Columbus, OH yesterday for $1.84 gal. On the PA. turnpike $2.69, off the turnpike $2.45 in MA $2.33.

nookandcrannycar
12-31-2014, 07:34 PM
About time someone started to address the fact that while yes, saving some at the pump feels good, there is such a thing as too low. That is where we are now. Too low. I personally have got to consume a whole lot of fuel to offset the negative economic impact of this current oil situation. As it currently sits, there are only a couple of oil producing countries that can still make a per barrel profit, while many more are facing serious economic hardships as their profit points are north of $75-$100 per barrel.

Heard our Lt. Governor elect interviewed on his radio station today. We passed Proposition 1 on the November ballot. This will divert half of the money that goes to our ESF/Rainy Day Fund (current balance is 8 billion plus...more than the other 49 states combined.....comes from taxes/fees generated from oil production) for land, construction, and maintenance of new non toll road projects. He doesn't think the projections for Year 1 will be off, but he thinks that due to the current decline in oil prices, there will be $300-400 million USD less available for Year 2. He also said that they are waiting for certain reports that will give them a better idea how much less sales tax revenue will be generated. Budget projections must be done for 2-year periods (out legislative bodies only meet every other year). He said capital equipment in the oil business generates a lot of sales tax revenue, and it is unknown how much that will decrease.

94toy22re
01-01-2015, 12:20 AM
I paid $1.57 in OKC today, Is what about $14 to fuel up with the low fuel light on.

nookandcrannycar
01-05-2015, 09:17 AM
I just paid $ 1.64 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon at a different Kroger (in Tomball, a town adjacent to Cypress, where I got my last two fill ups). This = 5 cents per gallon less then my last fill up. In addition to being less, it is the cheapest price in our metro. My last/prior fill-up = 6.9 cents per gallon above the then cheapest $1.63 per gallon. It will be interesting to see if future samples indicate a temporary bottom. The outside temperature while driving on the last tank of gas was easily below the previous tank..and my fuel economy dipped a bit.

bronsin
01-05-2015, 03:51 PM
Saw $2.09 today.

Read in the WSJ online oil briefly traded today Below $50 a barrel.

WeeYari
01-05-2015, 04:09 PM
Read in the WSJ online oil briefly traded today Below $50 a barrel.


Imma gonna be heading off to the soup kitchen soon [emoji26]


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joell
01-06-2015, 02:55 PM
Panama prices in liters and US$

91 octanes 0.679
95 octanes 0.732
Diesel 0.666

The fuel deposit size of my car is 42 liters (11.1 gallons) and the engine 2NZ-FE 1300 cc

fnkngrv
01-06-2015, 10:45 PM
$2.79 in Northern Maine for 91/93. This pains me because the car is currently on blocks and because it is winter.

Ben_
01-08-2015, 04:18 PM
Cosco in Orem, UT is $1.85 sometimes. Filled her up for less than $20 last week

NYC-SE
01-08-2015, 04:43 PM
$2.33 in Scarsdale NY 1 hour ago. Lowest I've seen it in a long time. I don't know how that station sells it so cheap. He is consistently 20 cents cheaper than the surrounding stations.

bronsin
01-09-2015, 06:01 AM
$2.33 in Scarsdale NY 1 hour ago. Lowest I've seen it in a long time. I don't know how that station sells it so cheap. He is consistently 20 cents cheaper than the surrounding stations.

I would bet the reason its cheaper would induce you not to put his gas in your car, were you to know it. :evil:

Saw $1.99 here last pm!

nookandcrannycar
01-09-2015, 07:36 AM
I would bet the reason its cheaper would induce you not to put his gas in your car, were you to know it. :evil:

Saw $1.99 here last pm!

:laugh:. Around our metro I notice wide price swings among stations in close proximity to areas with the highest demographics (River Oaks, the Memorial Villages, Tanglewood, etc).

NYC-SE
01-10-2015, 12:19 PM
I would bet the reason its cheaper would induce you not to put his gas in your car, were you to know it. :evil:

I've been using his gas for over a year in another car and have had no problems. I don't think he's selling bad quality stuff. MPGs are good and like I said no problems. Honestly I think he may be scamming on taxes or something. His cigarettes are way too cheap also.

bronsin
01-10-2015, 01:25 PM
I've been using his gas for over a year in another car and have had no problems. I don't think he's selling bad quality stuff. MPGs are good and like I said no problems. Honestly I think he may be scamming on taxes or something. His cigarettes are way too cheap also.

Right it could be perfectly OK.

Years ago I went to the cheap gas station for my VW Beetle. I did this for many many years. I would NEVER put Exxon or Texaco or brand name gas in my VW. No Sir!

Then one day at the cheap gas station I got two quarts of rusty water in my VW and it came to a stop about half a mile from the station. I was very handy and suspected I got water because my VW ran PERFECTLY and I did all the work myself. I had tools in the car (and you didn't need many tools to work on cars in those days) got the tank out of the car and drained the rusty water out and went on my way. But I never went back to that station and warned all my friends.

But did I learn my lesson....no I did not! I bought cheap gas all the time until once in Paramaus NJ I got gas that made my Subaru smell like rotten eggs. Really bad too!

After that I figured no more cheap gas for me. Cars are too expensive and too hard to work on today and I am too old besides.

I'll tell you some more things I do while Im on the subject. I don't drive much (5000 miles a year) and I only use half a tank every two weeks or so. But I fill up at four bars cause you don't want condensation in the tank which is what youll get driving around with an empty tank.

Also being a private pilot you don't leave gas tanks half full or trust the gas gauge because again of condensation and you don't want to run out of gas because then you might have an expensive landing. Also, unlike with a car you test the gas in your airplane for water and many times you find it in there. Remember when the water made my VW stop? Well if the engine stops on takeoff you can crash. Airplanes are very light (1500 lbs) and hold 20+ gallons of gas. In a crash the fuel tanks can rupture coating you your passengers and the structure with gas that likely ignites incinerating everyone and everything.:eek:

Which you don't want!:headbang:

Netcom
01-11-2015, 03:48 AM
Currently 94.8 cents per litre here in PEI, Canada

The Limo 2
01-11-2015, 01:23 PM
Staying at 98.9 cents per litre here in Chilliwack the last couple of weeks.
Roy

G-Ammo
01-11-2015, 01:40 PM
The gas here in Belgum is now 1,20 euros or sometimes even 1,11 euro's PER litre...

Never seen it that cheap before... its amazing.

nookandcrannycar
01-12-2015, 09:45 AM
Apparently, the price here hasn't plateaued. It is still decreasing. The lowest price in our metro for the first hours of Saturday January 10th = two stations a few blocks apart...on either side of SH 249 in Tomball...One a Murphy Express and one at Wal-Mart (also operated by Murphy Oil). Both = $ 1.55 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon...9 cents per gallon less than the cheapest on January 5th. Today, that Wal-Mart has fallen off the chart, but that Murphy Express is the 3rd cheapest in the metro at a lower $ 1.52 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. Two stations are tied for the cheapest in our metro at $ 1.49 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon (6 cents per gallon less than the cheapest was 2 days ago, and 15 cents per gallon less than the cheapest was a week ago)....a Valero on the other side of the metro near Hobby Airport, and a Stripes (cash price only) a few blocks away from the aforementioned Wal-Mart and Murphy Express.

bronsin
01-12-2015, 10:34 AM
Hmmm heres a thought....

Why no GIVE gas away until the surplus is gone. Then go back to charging $4 a gallon......

lenzomaru
01-12-2015, 10:46 AM
Wow. A few pennies less (when converted to U.S. gallons) than the lowest price here.




:eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge::eyebulge: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

(If you mean costs (currently), then ^^^^. If you mean cost in 2007, remove two eye bulges and two eeks :biggrin:)


Gas is subsidised heavily here thats why so cheap..currently a 2013 model basic is $25,581 US so you can leave the eeks and eyebulges

nookandcrannycar
01-12-2015, 11:30 AM
Gas is subsidised heavily here thats why so cheap..currently a 2013 model basic is $25,581 US so you can leave the eeks and eyebulges

So (others also see posts #102, #104, and #128) a 2007 model basic currently costs $23,256 USD vs. a current cost of $25,581 USD for a 2013 model basic ?

nookandcrannycar
01-12-2015, 11:35 AM
Hmmm heres a thought....

Why no GIVE gas away until the surplus is gone. Then go back to charging $4 a gallon......

:eek:.....Too much time spent in the Northeast :bonk: :biggrin: (jk).

bronsin
01-13-2015, 08:49 AM
Paid $1.97 yesterday. $12 for better than 6 gallons!

Shinare
01-13-2015, 10:06 AM
$1.59 here in OK.

nookandcrannycar
01-14-2015, 10:36 AM
Apparently, the price here hasn't plateaued. It is still decreasing. The lowest price in our metro for the first hours of Saturday January 10th = two stations a few blocks apart...on either side of SH 249 in Tomball...One a Murphy Express and one at Wal-Mart (also operated by Murphy Oil). Both = $ 1.55 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon...9 cents per gallon less than the cheapest on January 5th. Today, that Wal-Mart has fallen off the chart, but that Murphy Express is the 3rd cheapest in the metro at a lower $ 1.52 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. Two stations are tied for the cheapest in our metro at $ 1.49 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon (6 cents per gallon less than the cheapest was 2 days ago, and 15 cents per gallon less than the cheapest was a week ago)....a Valero on the other side of the metro near Hobby Airport, and a Stripes (cash price only) a few blocks away from the aforementioned Wal-Mart and Murphy Express.


I got gas yesterday, one day after the post above. The Stripes and the Valero that were the two cheapest at $1.49 9/10 the day before went in different directions. The Valero on the other side of the metro went up 6 cents to $1.55 9/10. The Stripes went down 5 cents per gallon to $1.44 9/10 per gallon...still the cheapest in the metro and still a cash only price. The Murphy Express stayed the same as the previous day at $1.52 9/10. The Kroger that is physically between the Murphy Express and the Stripes (a few blocks from each) came from off the list (out of the top 15 lowest) the day before to second overall and the cheapest credit card price at $1.46 9/10. I stopped at that Kroger and paid the $1.46 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon.

nookandcrannycar
01-18-2015, 11:06 PM
Just got gas for my 2007 Yaris...first time since October. Prices continue to drop. The Murphy Express mentioned in the previous post (post #133) = the lowest credit card price and the 3rd lowest overall in our metro at $1.41 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. I got gas there and paid that price of $1.41 9/10. The cheapest overall is a tie between two cash only offerings...one being the Stripes I mentioned in post #133 and post #126, and the other being the Wal-Mart I mentioned in post #126....both at $1.38 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. The Kroger I patronized for my last 2014 fill-up also lowered their price, but only to $1.44 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon.

bronsin
01-19-2015, 07:52 AM
:eek:.....Too much time spent in the Northeast :bonk: :biggrin: (jk).

Hmm I think it an excellent strategy for the oil companies. Consumers will buy big cars and its possible V24 engines will be produced. Then in a year or two the oil companies will be able to raise prices to $10 a gallon and they ill have the (idiot) public by the balls!:eek:

yougojay
01-19-2015, 06:09 PM
LOL - There are some cheap gas prices out there. It's about 2.09 a gallon here in Lenoir, NC. - Absolutely no regrets about buying the Yaris, It's less than $20.00 to fill it up and THAT lasts for 4-6 weeks! Unreal...The car has been flawless after almost 2 years and 9,150 miles. I just wonder how low they'll go.

nookandcrannycar
01-19-2015, 09:13 PM
Hmm I think it an excellent strategy for the oil companies. Consumers will buy big cars and its possible V24 engines will be produced. Then in a year or two the oil companies will be able to raise prices to $10 a gallon and they ill have the (idiot) public by the balls!:eek:

Re ^^^^ :laugh::thumbsup:

(Re earlier post...I was just teasing....when I think of giveaways, the deep blue Northeast and deep blue Western states that border the Pacific come to mind)

nookandcrannycar
01-26-2015, 02:20 AM
I just got gas. This time it was at the Murphy Express mentioned in recent posts......cheapest credit card price in the Houston metro and tied for second cheapest overall at $ 1.57 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. This is a 16 cents per gallon INCREASE over one week ago...over 10 percent. The cheapest overall price in our metro = the Stripes station mentioned in recent posts at $ 1.54 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon...also 16 cents more than a week ago.

fnkngrv
01-30-2015, 11:32 AM
We have been at a solid $2.29 here in Northern Maine for about a month.

bronsin
01-30-2015, 05:14 PM
We have been at a solid $2.29 here in Northern Maine for about a month.

Ouch!:eek:

$1.78 here in nj now.

I feel the price has hit bottom. Believe it will go up this summer...:eek:

matti
01-30-2015, 08:57 PM
$1.89/gallon here in northern Minnesota today. I believe it's up about a nickel in the past week.

Ben_
01-30-2015, 11:31 PM
Its down to 1.65 at Costco here in Utah. I don't expect these prices to last much longer either

The Limo 2
01-31-2015, 02:59 PM
Was at Costco in Abbotsford a week ago. Gas was 0.849 CAD a litre. Here in Chilliwack it has stayed at 0.919 CAD a litre for the last couple of weeks. Don't expect it to go much lower due to the sliding Canadian dollar.
Roy

Ben_
01-31-2015, 05:20 PM
Gallons or gtfo

Jk we love you, Canada

The Limo 2
01-31-2015, 05:49 PM
These figures are approximate.

$0.849 CAD per litre is equal to $3.21 CAD or $2.50 USD per US gallon

$0.919 CAD per litre is equal to $3.47 CAD or $2.70 USD per US gallon

Roy

bronsin
02-04-2015, 05:59 AM
GAs $1.89 IN nj THIS AM.

goING up!

The Limo 2
02-05-2015, 12:47 AM
Gas now $1.059 CAD a litre in Chilliwack. As bronsin says GOING UP.
Roy

fnkngrv
02-07-2015, 12:46 PM
gas has gone up 20 cents here in the last week!

attrapereves
02-09-2015, 09:10 AM
Going up here too. I live near Kansas City. It's about 1.80/gallon.

nookandcrannycar
02-11-2015, 09:19 PM
On 2/2/15 I got gas in my '07 at the same Murphy Express station in Tomball, TX that I used on 1/26/15 and 1/18/15. On 2/2/15 it was the 2nd cheapest station in the Houston metro. One station in League City was 1 cent cheaper per gallon. On 2/2/15 I paid $1.58 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon at this station....1 cent less than the $1.57 9/10 I paid 1 week earlier on 1/26/15, and 17 cents less than the $1.41 9/10 I paid there on 1/18/15.

I got gas twice later in the week in my '07 Yaris in Ennis, TX (about 43 miles South of downtown Dallas on I-45). Each time I paid $1.89 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. Ennis has quite a bit of open land around it, so if people there need to fill-up they'd likely stay in town. As such, the prices are the same at each station.

Back in the Houston area on 2/9/15, the cheapest credit card price North of I-10 had increased 15 cents in 1 week (2-2-15 to 2-9-15) from the $1.58 9/10 I paid on 2/2/15 to $1.73 9/10...this time at the Kroger at FM 1960 and N. Eldridge in Cypress. After swiping my Kroger card I learned that I had accumulated some fuel points. By using the fuel points, I got another 7 cents off per gallon and paid a metro low of $1.66 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon to fill my '14 Yaris.

bronsin
02-12-2015, 06:34 AM
Im seeing $1.99 here in South Jersey but theres $1.89 in a few places.

It seems to be going up but perhaps theres a pause in the rise...

So far no one is taking my suggestion to give it away for free...

matti
02-12-2015, 01:24 PM
$2.14/gallon regular unleaded here in northern MN.

john21031
02-13-2015, 03:44 AM
$2.69 the cheapest here in LA for 87 Octane.
Some expensive stations sell a gallon of 87 for $3+

nookandcrannycar
02-13-2015, 08:17 PM
On 2/2/15 I got gas in my '07 at the same Murphy Express station in Tomball, TX that I used on 1/26/15 and 1/18/15. On 2/2/15 it was the 2nd cheapest station in the Houston metro. One station in League City was 1 cent cheaper per gallon. On 2/2/15 I paid $1.58 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon at this station....1 cent less than the $1.57 9/10 I paid 1 week earlier on 1/26/15, and 17 cents less than the $1.41 9/10 I paid there on 1/18/15.

I got gas twice later in the week in my '07 Yaris in Ennis, TX (about 43 miles South of downtown Dallas on I-45). Each time I paid $1.89 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon. Ennis has quite a bit of open land around it, so if people there need to fill-up they'd likely stay in town. As such, the prices are the same at each station.

Back in the Houston area on 2/9/15, the cheapest credit card price North of I-10 had increased 15 cents in 1 week (2-2-15 to 2-9-15) from the $1.58 9/10 I paid on 2/2/15 to $1.73 9/10...this time at the Kroger at FM 1960 and N. Eldridge in Cypress. After swiping my Kroger card I learned that I had accumulated some fuel points. By using the fuel points, I got another 7 cents off per gallon and paid a metro low of $1.66 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon to fill my '14 Yaris.

Today......4 days later.....prices are up again. I just paid $1.84 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon at the Wal-Mart at FM 2920 & Kuykendahl in Spring, TX.. This is 18 cents per gallon more than I paid 4 days ago, and 11 cents per gallon more than I would have paid 4 days ago without the fuel points/purchases discount re grocery items purchased at Kroger. The 1.84 9/10 is tied for the 7th cheapest in the Houston metro, with one station at $1.74 9/10, three stations at $1.79 9/10 (with two of those being cash only at that price), and two stations at $1.83 9/10. So, the price of a gallon has risen a bit over 30% (from $1.41 9/10 to $1.84 9/10 per gallon) in a little under 1 month.

ern-diz
02-18-2015, 12:31 PM
We've crept up to as high as $2.89 for regular, $3.09 for the good stuff, in my area of SoCal.

bronsin
02-18-2015, 01:56 PM
$2.09 this am in south jersey.:eek:

That's up 30 cents in two weeks! :cry:

kustomrtr
02-18-2015, 09:14 PM
0.02$ for a full tank. Think I won this thread hahahaha...:headbang:

ern-diz
02-19-2015, 12:34 AM
0.02$ for a full tank. Think I won this thread hahahaha...:headbang:

Ha!

I wonder what my cousins in Guatemala pay...

lenzomaru
02-19-2015, 02:13 PM
0.02$ for a full tank. Think I won this thread hahahaha...:headbang:

My Uncle lives in Venezuela and when he told me the price of gas i couldn't believe!!

lenzomaru
02-19-2015, 02:15 PM
So (others also see posts #102, #104, and #128) a 2007 model basic currently costs $23,256 USD vs. a current cost of $25,581 USD for a 2013 model basic ?

2007 models were still available from the dealer 2yrs ago at a cost of $23,256 USD (what i bought) they currently have a 2013 model available for $25,581 USD

nookandcrannycar
02-19-2015, 04:16 PM
2007 models were still available from the dealer 2yrs ago at a cost of $23,256 USD (what i bought) they currently have a 2013 model available for $25,581 USD

Wow! :eek:...talk about the market disadvantages of living in a fairly sparsely populated island nation.

lenzomaru
02-20-2015, 12:28 PM
Wow! :eek:...talk about the market disadvantages of living in a fairly sparsely populated island nation.

Yea they charge an arm and a leg for new cars here, that is why most of the vehicles on the road are Japanese foreign used.

Note: my Yaris ($23,256 US) is a basic model: 1.3 engine, steel rims, no fogs or chrome accessories,2 airbags.

kustomrtr
02-20-2015, 01:27 PM
My Uncle lives in Venezuela and when he told me the price of gas i couldn't believe!!

To give you an idea:

A small bottle of water costs around 20BsF.
I fill my yaris' tank with around 3BsF. I usually pay with a 5Bsf bill and leave the change :iono:

Echo86
02-20-2015, 08:29 PM
$1.00/litre...(litre the way it's supposed to be spelled, lol) Americans cannot bitch about gas prices to the rest of us. Euros got it the worst, almost $3/ litre, and they live closer to the oil than we do. Except Canadians because we dig it up and sell it to the states for less than what we sell to ourselves. Thanks for being 10x bigger, America!

nookandcrannycar
02-21-2015, 12:43 AM
Got gas on 2/20/15 -- $1.88 9/10 USD per U.S. gallon at Kroger in Tomball, TX.
Cheapest credit card price in our metro, and 2nd cheapest overall...cheapest = $1.79 9/10 per gallon on the other side of the metro.

I paid 4 cents more per gallon on 2/20 than I did one week ago (2/13/15 = $1.84 9/10 per gallon).

bronsin
02-27-2015, 01:40 PM
$2.09 this am and have seen $2.15 at Hess.


Thats about $550 to drive 10k miles...

Jcp123
02-27-2015, 04:22 PM
Also about $2.099 around here.

nookandcrannycar
03-01-2015, 09:37 PM
Paid $1.92 9/10 per gallon on 2/27. This was the 4th cheapest in our metro at the time. Three stations were tied for the cheapest at $1.89 9/10.

fnkngrv
03-01-2015, 09:43 PM
2.59 in northern maine today.

bronsin
03-02-2015, 09:06 AM
Fuel oil for my boiler $3.78 a gallon here in NJ. Diesel is about $2.79.

Diesel is the exact same thing as fuel oil, but has over the road tax on it which fuel oil does not.

Yet its cheaper! :iono:

The Limo 2
03-02-2015, 07:24 PM
Now at $1.219 CAD per litre in Chilliwack today for gasoline. $1.189 CAD for diesel.
Roy

lenzomaru
03-03-2015, 01:11 PM
To give you an idea:

A small bottle of water costs around 20BsF.
I fill my yaris' tank with around 3BsF. I usually pay with a 5Bsf bill and leave the change :iono:

wtf??!?!?!
in contrast:

A small bottle of water here costs $3.00 TT
Cost to fill my tank $115.00 TT

Hey Kustomrtr, your president was here recently

ern-diz
03-03-2015, 02:17 PM
I last posted on 2/18 and we were at around $2.89 for regular, $3.09 for the good stuff, give or take depending on the station you go to. Now around two weeks later, we're up to about $3.55 for regular and $3.75 for premium, give or take depending on the station you go to.

Jcp123
03-03-2015, 03:26 PM
Damn. We are up to $2.299

ern-diz
03-03-2015, 04:46 PM
Damn. We are up to $2.299

Cheaper gas, better gun laws...

Why do I still live in CA?

YodaBird
03-03-2015, 05:24 PM
$1.05 Liter Canadian ! I have to fill up in a few days ! I'm extremely frugal with gas :)

nookandcrannycar
03-03-2015, 05:42 PM
Cheaper gas, better gun laws...

Why do I still live in CA?

:laugh:. Good question. Join the stampede :biggrin: !!!!! (from California to Texas)

I did.

ern-diz
03-03-2015, 06:01 PM
:laugh:. Good question. Join the stampede :biggrin: !!!!! (from California to Texas)

I did.

I personally know 3 people that made the move from CA to TX. If it wasn't for wanting to be close to family, my better half and I might have followed suit.

Jcp123
03-03-2015, 08:33 PM
I personally know 3 people that made the move from CA to TX. If it wasn't for wanting to be close to family, my better half and I might have followed suit.

Consider me the fourth and my wife the fifth. I am from Silicon Valley, she from LA. We met here.

Texas has its stuff that's not so great, too, though.

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 11:39 AM
I personally know 3 people that made the move from CA to TX. If it wasn't for wanting to be close to family, my better half and I might have followed suit.

:thumbsup:

ern-diz
03-04-2015, 11:41 AM
Consider me the fourth and my wife the fifth. I am from Silicon Valley, she from LA. We met here.

Texas has its stuff that's not so great, too, though.

Weather, I'm assuming?

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 12:57 PM
Consider me the fourth and my wife the fifth. I am from Silicon Valley, she from LA. We met here.

Texas has its stuff that's not so great, too, though.

The tap water (at least in DFW and Houston) isn't on par with the Bay Area or Orange County in California. Many roads don't have shoulders. Texas has more of some pollutants in the air, but the overall rating of the air quality in my zip code here is slightly better than both Mill Valley, CA and Incline Village, NV. One has to leave Texas to ski (snow, not water). Texas is the only state that is both a common law marriage state and a community property state. Despite the past 'Don't mess with Texas litter campaign', litter is still a problem (worse than California). In some areas there is a 'good 'ole boyness' (In a bad way). Most San Franciscans and New Yorkers could find the culture they desire in either DFW or Houston, but 'culture freaks' might be disappointed. Simultaneous midriff baring and tramp stamps. Nanny statism regarding religion (thinking textbook content)...which I can choose to ignore.

Those are negatives that came to mind off the top of my head.

Just the absence of a strong nanny state mentality (other than re religion), and the lower level of overall taxation mindset alone far outweigh, without even taking the gun laws into consideration :biggrin:, the negatives I listed above (IMO).

I think if more Californians could experience living in Texas (or even Nevada or Florida), they'd be upset re how much their state, county, and local governments take advantage of them on all sorts of financial issues, both directly and indirectly.

I'm a 5th Generation Bay Area native, and unless California becomes a lot like Texas or states with similar policies (which might not happen even if h*** froze over :biggrin:) I will never again become a resident of California.

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 01:12 PM
Weather, I'm assuming?

I don't know about Jcp123 nor his wife, but I don't mind the humidity.

A few years ago I was in a Home Depot talking to an employee about the weather in different parts of Texas. The employee was a native Houstonian, and was working to supplement his social security. He said the women of El Paso have skin like leather, but that 'our women' (the women of Houston) have skin that is as soft as a baby's bottom :laugh::biggrin:.

ern-diz
03-04-2015, 04:43 PM
Interesting...

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 05:29 PM
Interesting...

I guess one had to be there. The guy had a really thick local accent.

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 05:34 PM
Interesting...

If you're including post #102, I probably do have a list of negatives that might be different from most.

ern-diz
03-04-2015, 06:06 PM
If you're including post #102, I probably do have a list of negatives that might be different from most.

I was referring to both 182 and 183. It's all interesting feedback. Thanks :thumbsup:

Jcp123
03-04-2015, 06:53 PM
I'm at work...but I'm going to have to respond to all of this lol

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 07:48 PM
I'm at work...but I'm going to have to respond to all of this lol

:laugh:

nookandcrannycar
03-04-2015, 08:12 PM
Just got gas. $2.01 9/10 at Wal-Mart (Murphy Oil) in Tomball, TX. This APPEARS to be tied for the 3rd cheapest in the Houston metro with one station at 193 9/10 and another at 195 9/10. I added APPEAERS because Gas Buddy appears to have changed something internally re their search engine. I used to be able to do a 'Houston, TX' search and it would pull from our entire metro area. I could then erase that search parameter, leaving the field blank, hit enter, and I'd get an 'all metro' result, except with cheaper prices. Today, the 'blank out' still results in better prices, but a 'Houston, TX' search and the 'blank out' follow up both pull only 'within the city' results. The rest of the metro is excluded. I did searches for Tomball, Pasadena, Baytown, League City, Pearland, Texas City, Spring, and Katy with the same type of change to the result. I would imagine this change would apply to all Gas Buddy searches, at least in the United States.

Jedz123
03-05-2015, 08:47 AM
2.63 right now in VT. I filled my Yaris last month, might need gas in a week. But I did go through a tank yesterday on the Bike... Winter is finally letting go in the North east. 40'!!!! No more money in heating fuel!

Jcp123
03-05-2015, 02:38 PM
The tap water (at least in DFW and Houston) isn't on par with the Bay Area or Orange County in California. Many roads don't have shoulders. Texas has more of some pollutants in the air, but the overall rating of the air quality in my zip code here is slightly better than both Mill Valley, CA and Incline Village, NV. One has to leave Texas to ski (snow, not water). Texas is the only state that is both a common law marriage state and a community property state. Despite the past 'Don't mess with Texas litter campaign', litter is still a problem (worse than California). In some areas there is a 'good 'ole boyness' (In a bad way). Most San Franciscans and New Yorkers could find the culture they desire in either DFW or Houston, but 'culture freaks' might be disappointed. Simultaneous midriff baring and tramp stamps. Nanny statism regarding religion (thinking textbook content)...which I can choose to ignore.

Those are negatives that came to mind off the top of my head.

Just the absence of a strong nanny state mentality (other than re religion), and the lower level of overall taxation mindset alone far outweigh, without even taking the gun laws into consideration :biggrin:, the negatives I listed above (IMO).

I think if more Californians could experience living in Texas (or even Nevada or Florida), they'd be upset re how much their state, county, and local governments take advantage of them on all sorts of financial issues, both directly and indirectly.

I'm a 5th Generation Bay Area native, and unless California becomes a lot like Texas or states with similar policies (which might not happen even if h*** froze over :biggrin:) I will never again become a resident of California.

Re: weather...I actually am fairly used to the weather now. I spent my freshman year of college in Chico, whose climate is almost a dead ringer for the climate here. It was therefore only a slight shock. Heck, in the Bay Area, I didn't have ac in our house or in my Mustang. Here it's a must at home, but I choose not to use it when driving.

Government wise, there's some truth to the freedoms here, but even that is under the larger arc of simply trading one government for another; they'll get ya somehow. Use fees such as on telephones are higher, and unless you're old enough to qualify for a homestead exemption, your property taxes can be quite high rate wise and subject to plenty of elasticity. Vehicle wise, you are at minimum subject to a state "safety" inspection at minimum, plus an emissions check if you live in an urban county. The good-ole-boy mentality is alive and well here. If you think you can ignore the church here, you're mistaken - they are frequently involved in civic happenings. Locally, the good ol boys club snuck in a toll road where there was to be none (longish story). Liquor laws are a bit cumbersome. Not so great. But gun laws are great here, you can get pretty good fireworks too. Speed limits generally make good sense, except for the 4839293747329 school zones I see everywhere. The state sees to it that business can flourish here, and spend within their means.

Litter happens...it's the rednecks here. Most folks are polite enough not to do that. Heck, they are generally some of the most polite people you'll ever meet.

Culture flourishes here but mostly within urban areas as mentioned, plus a few kitschy places like Luckenbach and Palo Duro.

The water where I am is actually pretty decent; not like the delicious Hetch Hetchy water but really quite good. The worst water I ever had was in NY State.

edmscan
03-05-2015, 02:42 PM
Gas here is about 96 cents a liter so about $4.36 a US gallon.

Jcp123
03-05-2015, 05:37 PM
I feel stupid cause I gassed up yesterday for $2.299, and it went down 4-8 cents today.

Well, on second thought, I had a training class 40 mi away this morning, and was low on gas yesterday. We had freezing rain overnight, I would not have wanted to bother with a fill this morning. The price of convenience...38.8mpg last tank, this one started kinda rocky. Yesterday's commute plus a pizza run plus the run up to training and back still only put me in the mid-39mpg range. Wife's got the car now, I shudder to think...then again, it is in her name.

Oh, and as to skiing, I miss the hell out of that. We hit the slopes nearly every weekend in winter in CA. Heavenly and Northstar were our favourites. I sincerely loved Ellie's Run at Heavenly. I've lived here 10 years and gone only once. It was a week long production and something like 1000mi each way to do it in Winter Park, CO. What a great place though. Mary Jane smoked me...(sorta inside joke).

WeeYari
03-05-2015, 06:01 PM
So if you waited, provided you knew the price was going to drop, you could have what? Bought a coffee maybe? Hardly a reason to feel stupid!


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nookandcrannycar
03-05-2015, 06:46 PM
Here it's a must at home, but I choose not to use it when driving.

Wow. I can't imagine not using A/C in the car here :eek:. I've only had one car that didn't have A/C. during that time I spent quite a bit of time in north of Sunol parts of the I-680 corridor. And to top that off, the color of the car...black. A car without A/C....never again.

Government wise, there's some truth to the freedoms here, but even that is under the larger arc of simply trading one government for another; they'll get ya somehow. Use fees such as on telephones are higher, and unless you're old enough to qualify for a homestead exemption, your property taxes can be quite high rate wise and subject to plenty of elasticity.

The difference to me is that you can opt out of some costs here, and that one has much more control/say/input here.

Telephone, etc fees are higher, and there is sales tax on most services here, where that doesn't exist in California.....but the services usually cost more...with the added cost being more than the tax differential.

Texas has two homestead exemptions. One is open to anyone. You must submit a pre printed form to the appraisal district 'swearing' that you do live there. There is an additional homestead exemption for Age 65+ (my next door neighbor has the same standard exemption that I do, but he also has the additional age related exemption). After moving to this area and building my house in 2008, JOOC I decided to compare The Woodlands to comparable suburbs in LA/OC and in the Bay Area.....similar properties with similar amenities, low crime, greenery, etc. I figured that a $250,000 house in The Woodlands would cost $1,250,000 in either of the areas of California. Five times as much. I'd bet the difference, percentage wise, is at least as much if not more now. My homestead exemption brings me under 3%, but I do know people who pay 3.4%. I'm aware that people in parts of Oakland, CA have SEVENTEEN DIFFERENT ADDITIONS TO THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL (mostly parcel taxes). This brings their 1.0% base rate up to 1.7% These additions will = a lower % of the total for people who haven't been in their house very long (not as much benefit from Prop 13). So the rate in Texas might be twice as much, but the amount that is based upon might be five times as much. The standard exemption in Texas limits assessed value increases to 10% per year, whereas Prop 13 in California limits such yearly increases to 2%. The overall amount (not the rate) people pay for property taxes in Texas is often less than it would be in California......AND.....no state income tax. The 9.3% state income tax rate in California starts at a bit over 40k per year. Here in Texas you can mitigate the overall impact of a property tax by buying a less expensive property and, since most of the property tax goes to the local school district, you can go to board meetings and have direct input if you so desire.

Vehicle wise, you are at minimum subject to a state "safety" inspection at minimum, plus an emissions check if you live in an urban county.

True, but the registration fee is a very small flat amount that is based on the type of vehicle, rather than being based on a percentage of the purchase price as in California.

The good-ole-boy mentality is alive and well here. If you think you can ignore the church here, you're mistaken - they are frequently involved in civic happenings. Locally, the good ol boys club snuck in a toll road where there was to be none (longish story)

I'm agnostic. When I moved here, I expected (mostly re internet research) to be questioned all the time about church. It has only happened a few times. From my observation, the size of the area/metro might determine the extent to which this might be an issue. Others might come to different conclusions.

Liquor laws are a bit cumbersome. Not so great.

Yeah, pretty silly.

But gun laws are great here

:thumbsup:

you can get pretty good fireworks too.

Yeah, re buying your own.....but the flat terrain can sometimes make finding a place to watch planned displays a PITA :biggrin:.

Speed limits generally make good sense

:thumbsup:

except for the 4839293747329 school zones I see everywhere.

:bellyroll:

The state sees to it that business can flourish here, and spend within their means.

:thumbsup:

Litter happens...it's the rednecks here. Most folks are polite enough not to do that. Heck, they are generally some of the most polite people you'll ever meet.

:thumbsup: I agree, generally some of the most truly polite people you will ever meet.

Culture flourishes here but mostly within urban areas as mentioned, plus a few kitschy places like Luckenbach and Palo Duro.

:thumbsup:

The water where I am is actually pretty decent; not like the delicious Hetch Hetchy water but really quite good. The worst water I ever had was in NY State.

I wish we had the same water quality your area does.

nookandcrannycar
03-05-2015, 07:29 PM
I feel stupid cause I gassed up yesterday for $2.299, and it went down 4-8 cents today.

Well, on second thought, I had a training class 40 mi away this morning, and was low on gas yesterday. We had freezing rain overnight, I would not have wanted to bother with a fill this morning. The price of convenience...38.8mpg last tank, this one started kinda rocky. Yesterday's commute plus a pizza run plus the run up to training and back still only put me in the mid-39mpg range. Wife's got the car now, I shudder to think...then again, it is in her name.

Oh, and as to skiing, I miss the hell out of that. We hit the slopes nearly every weekend in winter in CA. Heavenly and Northstar were our favourites. I sincerely loved Ellie's Run at Heavenly. I've lived here 10 years and gone only once. It was a week long production and something like 1000mi each way to do it in Winter Park, CO. What a great place though. Mary Jane smoked me...(sorta inside joke).

Yeah, there's nothing like the view from the top of Ellie's, nor the top of Emigrant at Squaw. I've skied at every area/resort (including some that no longer exist, like Tannenbaum) from Dodge Ridge to Lassen, except I've never skied Northstar. I lived in Incline Village for a summer (after my freshman year in college) with some high school buddies. I also lived (for a ski season) in Mammoth Lakes. We were lucky to grow up so close to the Sierra Nevada range.

bronsin
03-06-2015, 06:12 AM
$2.25 this am here in NJ and Im only getting 30 mpg what with the 10 degree temps.

Water is Great here in NJ! (comes from an aquifer)

Terrible in upstate NY. (sulpher)

KingForADay
03-06-2015, 05:47 PM
$3.49 on the low end at non-Arco stations here in Orange County, CA. A jump of a dollar from a month or so ago. I think some of it is due to the refinery explosion from a few weeks ago in LA county.

bronsin
03-11-2015, 05:57 AM
GAs is coming down! It was $2.25 ten days ago, then $2.19, and this am $2.17.

This is in South Jersey.

Everybody get your friends to buy a Yaris (OK....a Fit) and it will come down even more. Is there anything better than colapsing gasoline prices? Sex? Drugs? Well CGP is right up there! Tell your wife! Tell your friends buy SMALL and Thrifty!

pjon
03-11-2015, 06:43 AM
It's increasing in the U.K. for some reason.
It dropped to £1.03/litre ($1.56) a few weeks ago. Approx. $7.08/Imperial Gallon, but has steadily increased to £1.14/litre ($1.71). Approx. $7.76/Imperial Gallon.
Remember, we are not called "rip off Britain" for nothing!

matti
03-11-2015, 12:47 PM
$2.44/gallon regular unleaded here in northern MN.

Jcp123
03-11-2015, 01:00 PM
Been staying around $2.249 here. I'll have to fill up again in the next few days, I hope this tank is better than the 38.3 indicated on my UltraGauge.

Jcp123
03-11-2015, 01:04 PM
Wow. I can't imagine not using A/C in the car here :eek:. I've only had one car that didn't have A/C. during that time I spent quite a bit of time in north of Sunol parts of the I-680 corridor. And to top that off, the color of the car...black. A car without A/C....never again.



The difference to me is that you can opt out of some costs here, and that one has much more control/say/input here.

Telephone, etc fees are higher, and there is sales tax on most services here, where that doesn't exist in California.....but the services usually cost more...with the added cost being more than the tax differential.

Texas has two homestead exemptions. One is open to anyone. You must submit a pre printed form to the appraisal district 'swearing' that you do live there. There is an additional homestead exemption for Age 65+ (my next door neighbor has the same standard exemption that I do, but he also has the additional age related exemption). After moving to this area and building my house in 2008, JOOC I decided to compare The Woodlands to comparable suburbs in LA/OC and in the Bay Area.....similar properties with similar amenities, low crime, greenery, etc. I figured that a $250,000 house in The Woodlands would cost $1,250,000 in either of the areas of California. Five times as much. I'd bet the difference, percentage wise, is at least as much if not more now. My homestead exemption brings me under 3%, but I do know people who pay 3.4%. I'm aware that people in parts of Oakland, CA have SEVENTEEN DIFFERENT ADDITIONS TO THEIR PROPERTY TAX BILL (mostly parcel taxes). This brings their 1.0% base rate up to 1.7% These additions will = a lower % of the total for people who haven't been in their house very long (not as much benefit from Prop 13). So the rate in Texas might be twice as much, but the amount that is based upon might be five times as much. The standard exemption in Texas limits assessed value increases to 10% per year, whereas Prop 13 in California limits such yearly increases to 2%. The overall amount (not the rate) people pay for property taxes in Texas is often less than it would be in California......AND.....no state income tax. The 9.3% state income tax rate in California starts at a bit over 40k per year. Here in Texas you can mitigate the overall impact of a property tax by buying a less expensive property and, since most of the property tax goes to the local school district, you can go to board meetings and have direct input if you so desire.



True, but the registration fee is a very small flat amount that is based on the type of vehicle, rather than being based on a percentage of the purchase price as in California.



I'm agnostic. When I moved here, I expected (mostly re internet research) to be questioned all the time about church. It has only happened a few times. From my observation, the size of the area/metro might determine the extent to which this might be an issue. Others might come to different conclusions.



Yeah, pretty silly.



:thumbsup:



Yeah, re buying your own.....but the flat terrain can sometimes make finding a place to watch planned displays a PITA :biggrin:.



:thumbsup:



:bellyroll:



:thumbsup:



:thumbsup: I agree, generally some of the most truly polite people you will ever meet.



:thumbsup:



I wish we had the same water quality your area does.

Re: taxes, I'll take your word for it. I haven't taken the home ownership plunge yet :D

Montgomery county is sort of an exurb of Houston, no? I'm sure you get more progressive city dwellers around there. The religious stuff drives me nuts here! Bible Belt is alive and well, strange after spending the first 20 years of my life where religion was a non-issue and believing the Bible Belt was an old wives' tale which made a convenient scapegoat for whatever was bothering someone.

nookandcrannycar
03-12-2015, 01:28 AM
Re: taxes, I'll take your word for it. I haven't taken the home ownership plunge yet :D

Montgomery county is sort of an exurb of Houston, no? I'm sure you get more progressive city dwellers around there. The religious stuff drives me nuts here! Bible Belt is alive and well, strange after spending the first 20 years of my life where religion was a non-issue and believing the Bible Belt was an old wives' tale which made a convenient scapegoat for whatever was bothering someone.

Especially in the southern part lof the county, progressive people, I find, are usually more often transplants from other states, rather than people who move out from Houston. A book entitled "Next stop, Reloville: Life Inside America's New Rootless Professional Class" mentions that The Woodlands ranks second among all U.S. communities/CDPs/towns etc. re the percentage of residents who were born in another state. Only Alpharetta, GA (where some relatives of mine from California happen to live) has a higher percentage of residents born in another state.

I would say the people of the southern portion of Montgomery County (where most of the population resides) are generally conservative, but reasonably sophisticated conservatives...generally well traveled, well educated folks who have experienced a fair bit of what life has to offer. Not people who most would likely consider rednecks.

The website 'The Daily Caller' ranked the 20 most conservative counties in the United States. Montgomery County ranked third on that list. Number one was Williamson County, TN (suburban Nashville...includes Franklin, TN...one of the most beautiful non coastal towns/cities in the country, IMO). Number two on that list was Gwinnett County, GA (suburban Atlanta, adjacent to Fulton County where some of my relatives from California live). Montgomery County is considered sort of a 'tea party hotspot', and Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain had their debates here during the 2012 cycle. The last Democrat to carry Montgomery County in a presidential election was President Johnson in 1964.

There are over 3,000 counties or county equivalents in the United States. The growth percentage in population from 2000 to 2010 made Montgomery County the 24th fastest growing county in the United States over that period of time.

In 2012 I was part of a fascinating three way conversation with two very different other people. One was a single guy who moved here from the Bay Area to build his dream house, on acreage, and had a horrendous experience. He's originally from Southern California, and had been taken to party political events (he's a Democrat) starting at age four by his furniture store owner dad. The other person, sharp as a tack, was a woman in her 90s, a lifetime area resident, who had owned restaurants and invested the profits in residential real estate and the financial markets. They only seemed to agree on one thing.....that most Texans are friendly, but that it is a fake, 'Minnesota Nice' kind of friendly. I wholeheartedly disagreed with them then, and I still wholeheartedly disagree with them.

I imagine that size, location, and the nature of the economy combine to make the Tyler area a place where the 'bible vibe' would be more intense (than my area), and harder to escape or ignore.

nookandcrannycar
03-12-2015, 01:33 AM
Still going up here. I got gas about 19 hours ago. $1.98 9/10 per gallon, tied for 4th cheapest in our metro. Two stations at $1.89 9/10 per gallon were the cheapest, and another station was at $1.95 9/10 per gallon.

Jcp123
03-12-2015, 03:35 PM
Gassed up today @ $2.249. A disappointing 38.06mpg.

nookandcrannycar
03-12-2015, 04:01 PM
Is there anything better than colapsing gasoline prices? Sex? Drugs?

:laugh:

Tell your wife! Tell your friends buy SMALL and Thrifty!

One caveat. Lower prices = less tax revenue for government. Rather than, as a response, to look for ways to trim government spending.....many goveernments instead would look for new streams of revenue...to come from the taxpayers :thumbdown:.

nookandcrannycar
03-16-2015, 11:17 PM
Still going up here. I got gas about 19 hours ago. $1.98 9/10 per gallon, tied for 4th cheapest in our metro. Two stations at $1.89 9/10 per gallon were the cheapest, and another station was at $1.95 9/10 per gallon.

Got gas about an hour ago. Same price.....$1.98 9/10.... and same station (Kroger at SH 249 & FM 2920 in Tomball, TX). However this is now THE cheapest station in our metro, rather than 3 others being cheaper, as was the case last week.

fnkngrv
03-17-2015, 01:15 AM
Visiting my parents in PHX for a couple weeks. Regular is generally 2.29 right now. For some odd reason premium is as much as $.50-60 more! Wtf is up with that?!?

bronsin
03-17-2015, 05:55 AM
$2..1 here this am in NJ> Its coming down pretty slow but steady.

I wonder why oil you put in the engine is still so high?

Jcp123
03-17-2015, 02:18 PM
Holding pattern - 2.249 here. At 5 cents/mi, I'm not complaining. Esp. since 84 miles of my last tank were paid by the company @ $0.35/mi. Pays for the whole tank with $ left over.

Engine oil? At least one of two things:
1. We have been acclimatized to higher engine oil prices
2. Volume is low enough on engine oil that cheaper base stocks haven't worked their way through to the shelf

Retailers set the final price though, so it may be that they are still hedging and anticipating higher prices. Or, the heavier elements which come out of refining might be going to other uses at the moment.

Who knows.

The Limo 2
03-17-2015, 02:56 PM
Regular gas $1.149 CAD a litre in Chilliwack this AM. I sort of smile as we were paying around 1.35 to 1.40 CAD when oil was double the price it is now. The Canadian dollar has gone down about 25% since then but even taken that into account somebody is making good money off us. Hate to see what the price will be when oil goes back up to $100 per barrel.
Roy

ern-diz
03-17-2015, 03:18 PM
Gassed up today @ $2.249. A disappointing 38.06mpg.

38 is disappointing lol? I average about 32...

Jcp123
03-17-2015, 07:12 PM
38 is disappointing lol? I average about 32...

It is for me. I'm showing 42+ for this tank :D

bronsin
03-18-2015, 06:00 AM
This am one station dropped 2 cents and another raised two cents.:iono:

nookandcrannycar
03-19-2015, 11:26 AM
Visiting my parents in PHX for a couple weeks. Regular is generally 2.29 right now. For some odd reason premium is as much as $.50-60 more! Wtf is up with that?!?

I topped off my tank (just a few gallons) on 3/17 near my house without searching on GasBuddy for a cheap station. I paid $2.13 9/10 for regular, and premium was 65 cents a gallon higher at $2.78 9/10 at that station.

Jcp123
03-19-2015, 12:28 PM
I noticed the spreads between fuel grades were getting larger when I moved from CA to TX. Used to be a 10 cent delta, here in TX it was 14 cents. Regular was around $2/gal then here, I thought maybe it was a TX thing.

But the more I think about it, the higher the price of fuel, the more try can get away with a bigger difference between grades, as it is proportionately still fairly appropriate. 50+ cents to hi-test is a bit extreme though.

nookandcrannycar
03-19-2015, 02:29 PM
I noticed the spreads between fuel grades were getting larger when I moved from CA to TX. Used to be a 10 cent delta, here in TX it was 14 cents. Regular was around $2/gal then here, I thought maybe it was a TX thing.

But the more I think about it, the higher the price of fuel, the more try can get away with a bigger difference between grades, as it is proportionately still fairly appropriate. 50+ cents to hi-test is a bit extreme though.

I also notice that if a place is isolated or has a high density of those who have a high income (or both), it seems the more stations will try to 'test a higher price'. Of course re isolation, some of that increase in price is due to transportation costs.

Jcp123
03-20-2015, 03:01 AM
I also notice that if a place is isolated or has a high density of those who have a high income (or both), it seems the more stations will try to 'test a higher price'. Of course re isolation, some of that increase in price is due to transportation costs.

The stations nearest an interstate tend to charge the most for 87, but seem to have less spread to hi-test.


Double gold today. Gas down three cents to $2.219 and a 42.16mpg fillup thanks to the return of nice weather and some favourable drives. Sweet! That's more like what I am used to.

bronsin
03-20-2015, 05:55 AM
Seeing $2.09 now here in NJ at many stations. According to the Wall Street journal oil prices per barrel are declining after their spike in price and are hovering around $43.

What Im looking for now are declining oil you put in your engine prices. Black Friday for many years Pep Boys had $6 a case of 12 for Castrol! Now even regular oil is $3-4 a quart.

auxmike
03-20-2015, 07:52 AM
$2.45 in long Island.

Jcp123
03-20-2015, 11:43 AM
Seeing $2.09 now here in NJ at many stations. According to the Wall Street journal oil prices per barrel are declining after their spike in price and are hovering around $43.

What Im looking for now are declining oil you put in your engine prices. Black Friday for many years Pep Boys had $6 a case of 12 for Castrol! Now even regular oil is $3-4 a quart.

I snagged 24qts of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum for $0.80/qt. and two jugs of Mobil1 0w30 for $3 each :P

bronsin
03-20-2015, 02:13 PM
howd you do that?

Jcp123
03-20-2015, 11:01 PM
howd you do that?

Working at a parts store had its charms. :D two years' worth of oil changes (with some of the best oil in the planet) for under $30. Filters will be extra.

Jcp123
03-28-2015, 01:38 PM
Round here it's pretty constantly 2.199 right now.

Over in Waco where I'm going to school it seems to range from 2.099 at a few stations, to about 2.259 at others, with the majority coming in at 2.159 or 2.189. Frustratingly, my fuel of choice (Texaco/Chevron) seems to be at the top end of the range there in Waco. So, I conserve my fuel when I am there and fill up here on the weekends.

bronsin
04-27-2015, 07:31 AM
Wow nearly a month since a post on this subject! :eek:

Gas has been going up here in South Jersey. :mad: Paid $2.35 last weekend.

Good news is my new Honda CRF250L is getting 75 mpg on rides of at least 100 miles.:thumbsup:

66 is about it for commuting to work.

The Limo 2
04-27-2015, 12:02 PM
Gas in Chilliwack this morning is 1.109 CAD a litre. Has stayed around this for the last month.
Roy

vivalaflam
04-27-2015, 12:17 PM
Gas in Chilliwack this morning is 1.109 CAD a litre. Has stayed around this for the last month.
Roy
Price has been going up lately in Greece. Currently 1,52€/litre (the cheapest one)

MemphisLaVa
04-28-2015, 10:34 AM
Gas has been going up here in Memphis...filled up for $2.15/gal with Kroger discount but saw prices ranging from $2.19-$2.49/gal.

fnkngrv
04-28-2015, 11:16 AM
Price here in Northern Maine have gone up now to 2.71 for regular. They have been steadily climbing for a while now.

jambo101
04-29-2015, 02:52 AM
$1.25 a liter here in Montreal today. Yeah i know probably some of the highest gas prices in North America,

The Limo 2
04-29-2015, 11:44 AM
Went to fill up my car yesterday morning; the price had jumped to 1.189 CAD per litre. Guess they have figured out all us retired people would be getting our pension cheque and buying gas yesterday.
Roy

nookandcrannycar
05-01-2015, 04:33 PM
I paid $3.13 9/10 in Woodbridge, CA (next to Lodi, CA) on 4/29/15. Gas Buddy showed two different Mobil stations at $3.05 9/10 only 2 hours before that...but by the time I got to each station, the price had increased 8 cents per gallon. This is the first time I've paid over $3.00 per gallon since leaving the Houston area on this jaunt. I've paid in the high 2's ever since entering California. I drove through California (stopping really only to rest at night) last summer on my way from Washington to Texas. Diesel is now cheaper in California than 87 octane. I don't think that was the case last summer. The latest California Cap and Trade regulations went into effect on January 1, 2015 :rolleyes:. I drove by a station in Livermore, CA a couple of hours ago, and the prices were $3.75 9/10 per gallon for 87 octane and $3.95 9/10 for super. I imagine many stations in San Francisco are over $4.00 per gallon for 87 octane. The 50 cheapest stations right now in San Francisco for 87 octane range from $3.35 9/10 per gallon to $3.95 9/10 per gallon. Back in the Houston area, I could get a gallon of 87 octane at one of the Kroger locations in The Woodlands today for $2.09 9/10 per gallon :eek:,

bronsin
05-02-2015, 08:44 AM
Huh at this rate gas will be back at $4 a gallon and it will only be costing the suppliers $80 per gallon instead of $110...

nookandcrannycar
05-06-2015, 07:05 PM
I paid $3.25 9/10 today in Manteca, CA. I checked San Ramon, Pleasanton, Dublin, Liverrmore, Tracy. Manteca, Lathrop, and Stockton....all on Gas Buddy. The $3.25 9/10 I paid was the cheapest credit card price out of all 8 of those cities. This is 12 cents more per gallon than I paid a week ago, and 20 cents more per gallon than the cheapest credit card price for the same cities a week ago on Gas Buddy.com.

bronsin
05-07-2015, 06:08 AM
$2.45 this am.

fnkngrv
05-07-2015, 09:27 AM
On business travel in VT this week. Drove here with my 93 Rolla beater. 190k mile rust bucket and avg 34.5mpg on summer gas :headbang:

An interesting thing is that normally once I get even 50 miles south of Caribou fuel prices traditionally drop 10-12 cents per gal however not right now. It has stayed within a few cents of 2.60 over a 450 mile distance.

matti
05-07-2015, 10:05 PM
$2.35/gallon here in northern MN.

The Limo 2
05-07-2015, 10:53 PM
$1.249 CAD a litre this morning in Chilliwack.
Roy

nookandcrannycar
05-08-2015, 03:03 PM
$1.249 CAD a litre this morning in Chilliwack.
Roy

At least some place in North America has more expensive gas than some parts of California :laugh:.

nookandcrannycar
05-10-2015, 06:50 PM
I paid $3.28 9/10 in Stockton, CA today (3 cents more than I paid on my last fill up on 5/6 at a different station). A few blocks before the station, the beat up van alongside me blatantly ran a red light right in front of the Stockton Police headquarters building (tons of police cars outside....but not a soul in sight), and then stopped at the next light :laugh:. Yesterday, in Pleasanton, I saw something that might be non existent in other parts of the country.....a Tesla sedan with manufacturers plates.

gearbox
05-22-2015, 05:17 PM
3.99 at chevron in socal Inland Impire

nookandcrannycar
05-22-2015, 06:19 PM
3.99 at chevron in socal Inland Impire

Eaerly this morning on one of the cable channels a reporter was saying that the national average right now is $2.74 per gallon for 87 octane. This reporter was standing in front of a gas station in Los Angeles, and the sign behind him displayed $4.15 9/10 per gallon for 87 octane. I paid $3.27 9/10 last night in Tracy, CA (2nd cheapest credit card price re 8 cities...San Ramon, Dublin, Pleasanton, Livermore, Tracy, Lathrop, Manteca, and Stockton). The cheapest was in Manteca, but that station is also a car wash and closes quite early. In my normal 'gas station area' near my house in Texas, I would have paid $2.25 9/10 per gallon of 87 octane :eek:.

gearbox
05-23-2015, 12:56 AM
Eaerly this morning on one of the cable channels a reporter was saying that the national average right now is $2.74 per gallon for 87 octane. This reporter was standing in front of a gas station in Los Angeles, and the sign behind him displayed $4.15 9/10 per gallon for 87 octane. I paid $3.27 9/10 last night in Tracy, CA (2nd cheapest credit card price re 8 cities...San Ramon, Dublin, Pleasanton, Livermore, Tracy, Lathrop, Manteca, and Stockton). The cheapest was in Manteca, but that station is also a car wash and closes quite early. In my normal 'gas station area' near my house in Texas, I would have paid $2.25 9/10 per gallon of 87 octane :eek:.

I believe mid 4's is the highest its ever been around here. You can get about 3.88 at Costco right now.

bronsin
05-23-2015, 05:58 AM
Gas has settled in at around $2.39 for about a month now here in South Jersey.

HOWEVER a disturbing rumor going around is NJ is going to make us pump our own gas now after years of mandatory the station must pump the gas. :eek: As you may know our gas prices are LOWER than surrounding states, who must pump their own. Even though stations in NJ must PAY people to pump the gas! Whasupwitdat!!! I fear prices are going to go UP despite the seeming contradiction!!!

Stay tuned!

On the good side it takes LONGER for someone to pump your gas so that will be a consolation. Also, I shudder to think of the jobs LOST and the hardship that will cause to our already FUBAR economy if this comes to pass! :cool:

fnkngrv
05-23-2015, 10:46 AM
We are now pretty much settled in at 2.79 a gal. Been there for about a month I think.

nookandcrannycar
05-23-2015, 03:59 PM
HOWEVER a disturbing rumor going around is NJ is going to make us pump our own gas now after years of mandatory the station must pump the gas. :eek: As you may know our gas prices are LOWER than surrounding states, who must pump their own. Even though stations in NJ must PAY people to pump the gas! Whasupwitdat!!! I fear prices are going to go UP despite the seeming contradiction!!!

Stay tuned!

On the good side it takes LONGER for someone to pump your gas so that will be a consolation. Also, I shudder to think of the jobs LOST and the hardship that will cause to our already FUBAR economy if this comes to pass! :cool:

Sorry, but......:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:. I wouldn't want to live in your state, but I do like to visit (and stay there re trips...especially trips by CAR.....to the NYC metro area). I absolutely hate having someone else pump my gas (can't fill to my usual 'where I can start to see gas in the neck' point :biggrin:). I'll either try to pick the farthest away from the 'hut' pump at a sparsely manned station at night, or (if convenient) I'll just get gas in NY state and pay more.

My understanding (from someone who works for Hess) is that the lower (than surrounding states) gas prices in New Jersey exist because of lower taxes...nothing to do with who is pumping the gas. The same person told me that NJ makes up for lower taxes on fuel with higher 'sin taxes' than surrounding states (on alcohol and cigarettes, IIRC). Your state, and Oregon, are the only U.S. states with this 'we must keep the pump jockeys employed in their customary positions' way of thinking :eek::smile:.

bronsin
05-23-2015, 07:44 PM
Sorry, but......:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:. I wouldn't want to live in your state, but I do like to visit (and stay there re trips...especially trips by CAR.....to the NYC metro area). I absolutely hate having someone else pump my gas (can't fill to my usual 'where I can start to see gas in the neck' point :biggrin:). I'll either try to pick the farthest away from the 'hut' pump at a sparsely manned station at night, or (if convenient) I'll just get gas in NY state and pay more.

My understanding (from someone who works for Hess) is that the lower (than surrounding states) gas prices in New Jersey exist because of lower taxes...nothing to do with who is pumping the gas. The same person told me that NJ makes up for lower taxes on fuel with higher 'sin taxes' than surrounding states (on alcohol and cigarettes, IIRC). Your state, and Oregon, are the only U.S. states with this 'we must keep the pump jockeys employed in their customary positions' way of thinking :eek::smile:.

Further enhancement indicates that's only a hopeless quest by elements in the state legislature.

Your right about the tax thing...something else that also was cleared up for me.

nookandcrannycar
05-24-2015, 01:46 AM
Further enhancement indicates that's only a hopeless quest by elements in the state legislature.

:cry::biggrin:

Your right about the tax thing...something else that also was cleared up for me.

:thumbsup: