Snowplow tags the Echo overnight.

[jambo101]

Must have been a rookie, left no note or acknowledgement that he wrecked my car.

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03 Echo 100,000kilometers, well maintained, i'm thinking they will probably write it off.:mad:
I suspect he snagged the car with the top of the plow blade.

[NYC-SE]

Sucks.

[Jcp123]

Oh, wonderful. So are snow plows something I'll have to worry about when I move up north too? That story is getting worse than it already is...

Hate to see that happen to a perfectly good Echo. I'm sorry to see that :(

[ebaut]

During winter, we get ticketed or even towed depending on where you are, if we park outside overnight or on the way of plows. Is that not so in Montreal? Im in Kitchener, btw.

And yes it does suck, i feel your pain. I have had my car hit by an old lady that lives about 10 houses from me. She didnt even realize she hit me. Witnesses saw her. Cops paid her a visit after another neighbor came in to see me with a license plate number.

[bronsin]

Looks fixable maybe?

Yeah I Take great pains to preserve my cars but something like that can wipe it out just like that.

[jambo101]

During winter, we get ticketed or even towed depending on where you are, if we park outside overnight or on the way of plows. Is that not so in Montreal? Im in Kitchener, btw.

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Plenty of people park on the streets in Montreal, doesnt give free license to the plow driver to sideswipe cars.
I'm thinking repair costs will come very near what the car is worth.
If the insurance writes it off it will give me an excuse to buy another one.

[ebaut]

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Plenty of people park on the streets in Montreal, doesnt give free license to the plow driver to sideswipe cars.


Here every single time I've parked out, I think I've had a ticket on my windshield the next day, that alone makes me not want to park outside.

Im sure it was an accident though.

[shepd]

Overnight parking is permitted in Montreal with permission:

http://www.montreal-ouest.ca/en/parking/

Kitchener is hyper-vigilant (sorry, money grubbing) and will hit your car with a ticket in 10 minutes after (Got one at 2:41 am), even on a warm winter night without any snow forecast.

[IllusionX]

Weird, I was just reading up on the Quebec forum that MTQ is testing lasers to guide snowplow exactly where it is heading to...

[hondajt]

Sorry for your luck. No fun.

Hopefully you stay on the forum!

[nookandcrannycar]

Oh, wonderful. So are snow plows something I'll have to worry about when I move up north too?

Depends on where up north :biggrin:. Where might indicate if you have to drive or not. As much as I absolutely love driving, if I had to live near NYC...and didn't leave very often... (I know, the OP lives in Canada), I might try going without owning a car (all of my previous trips to the area in the last 9 years have been car based). NYC Subway, NJ Transit, PATH trains...all reliable, and good communication with passengers re any changes (I didn't use the LIRR, nor Amtrak, during my just concluded visit). Even with the train travel, I still did quite a bit of walking.....helped re a restful night of sleep.

[jambo101]

Sorry for your luck. No fun.

Hopefully you stay on the forum!

Fortunately this snowplow driver missed my Yaris :biggrin:

[nookandcrannycar]

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Plenty of people park on the streets in Montreal, doesnt give free license to the plow driver to sideswipe cars.
I'm thinking repair costs will come very near what the car is worth.
If the insurance writes it off it will give me an excuse to buy another one.

Sorry to hear this happened to you :frown:. Good luck with your search, if it becomes necessary.

[nookandcrannycar]

Fortunately this snowplow driver missed my Yaris :biggrin:

If the insurance company totals your ECHO, will it be difficult to find another one?....you mentioned 'excuse to buy another one', and I'm clueless re ECHO availability in Montreal.

[IllusionX]

If the insurance company totals your ECHO, will it be difficult to find another one?....you mentioned 'excuse to buy another one', and I'm clueless re ECHO availability in Montreal.


There are PLENTY in Montreal. But a 03 with just 100k km? Aka 62000mi.. That's hard to find especially in good shape.

[Jcp123]

Depends on where up north :biggrin:. Where might indicate if you have to drive or not. As much as I absolutely love driving, if I had to live near NYC...and didn't leave very often... (I know, the OP lives in Canada), I might try going without owning a car (all of my previous trips to the area in the last 9 years have been car based). NYC Subway, NJ Transit, PATH trains...all reliable, and good communication with passengers re any changes (I didn't use the LIRR, nor Amtrak, during my just concluded visit). Even with the train travel, I still did quite a bit of walking.....helped re a restful night of sleep.

Nah I'd be out in Rochester, practically the other end of the state. Decent bit of lake effect snow, I think, but not exactly a public transit hub.

Yeah, I think Echos were much more popular in Canada than in the 'states. Finding a clean one may be harder, even the newest one is 9 years old now...

[nookandcrannycar]

There are PLENTY in Montreal. But a 03 with just 100k km? Aka 62000mi.. That's hard to find especially in good shape.


:thumbsup: I imagine so. Is Carfax a significant part of the overall picture/equation in Montreal?

[nookandcrannycar]

Nah I'd be out in Rochester, practically the other end of the state. Decent bit of lake effect snow, I think, but not exactly a public transit hub.

Yeah, I think Echos were much more popular in Canada than in the 'states. Finding a clean one may be harder, even the newest one is 9 years old now...

Lake effect snow = :eek: (in my book, but probably not for some). In 2006 I was at a what is now known as Fed Ex Office location in suburban Buffalo. I walked outside to get something out of my car. I felt what was starting to come down. I had a hotel reservation in Albany for that night. I had taken delivery of my new blue Yaris a little over 4 1/2 days prior to that moment. Intuition.....I needed to leave immediately. I did. When I arrived at my hotel in Albany, I immediately turned on the television.....:eek: (see Lake Storm "Aphid" Wikipedia article). I imagine many media people and emergency personnel were in an even more heightened state of awareness than usual...the previous day Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle or his instructor (the NTSB never did determine who was flying the plane) had crashed a small plane into a condominium building in Manhattan.....exactly one month after the 5 year anniversary of 9/11.

[IllusionX]

:thumbsup: I imagine so. Is Carfax a significant part of the overall picture/equation in Montreal?


People do use carfax. But why on a 11 years old car? I would be bothered for a 20k used Audi, but not a 10+ years old Toyota.

[Jcp123]

Lake effect snow = :eek: (in my book, but probably not for some). In 2006 I was at a what is now known as Fed Ex Office location in suburban Buffalo. I walked outside to get something out of my car. I felt what was starting to come down. I had a hotel reservation in Albany for that night. I had taken delivery of my new blue Yaris a little over 4 1/2 days prior to that moment. Intuition.....I needed to leave immediately. I did. When I arrived at my hotel in Albany, I immediately turned on the television.....:eek: (see Lake Storm "Aphid" Wikipedia article). I imagine many media people and emergency personnel were in an even more heightened state of awareness than usual...the previous day Yankees pitcher Corey Lidle or his instructor (the NTSB never did determine who was flying the plane) had crashed a small plane into a condominium building in Manhattan.....exactly one month after the 5 year anniversary of 9/11.

Yikes! I dunno how bad it gets in ROC but I am told that it's not that bad. Or maybe she is sandbagging a little in hopes that I won't hate my life so much when I get there.

The one time I drive in slushy sleety stuff here, the Echo seemed pretty confident though. We get snow, or something which resembles it, maybe once/yr, we ain't got no plows, salt, or sand!

[roxy1]

Yikes! I dunno how bad it gets in ROC but I am told that it's not that bad. Or maybe she is sandbagging a little in hopes that I won't hate my life so much when I get there.

The one time I drive in slushy sleety stuff here, the Echo seemed pretty confident though. We get snow, or something which resembles it, maybe once/yr, we ain't got no plows, salt, or sand!

Rochester only averages just under 100 inches per season, so it shouldn't be much worse than Texas.:rolleyes:

[jambo101]

I'm wondering now if the insurance is going to scrap the car or fix it,
I can see repairs getting up in the $2K range,
Whats an 03 Echo in good shape worth on whatever book the insurance company uses to determine value.
What really pisses me off is this incompetent plow driver wrecks my car and suffers no consequence to his actions. I called city hall and made a complaint and the operator told me the complaint will be forwarded to the appropriate dept. Yeah sure it will.:rolleyes:

[nookandcrannycar]

We get snow, or something which resembles it, maybe once/yr, we ain't got no plows, salt, or sand!

Here the interval is about 2-3 years. Also no plows. They did put what I thought was salt (might have been sand) on some bridges last winter. Hasn't gotten to the point of sleet, at least since 2008. Always melts (except re rooftops) the next day.

[nookandcrannycar]

What really pisses me off is this incompetent plow driver wrecks my car and suffers no consequence to his actions. I called city hall and made a complaint and the operator told me the complaint will be forwarded to the appropriate dept. Yeah sure it will.:rolleyes:

:thumbsup: This drives me crazy as well. I wonder what the largest city is (population wise) in North America that has successfully privatized its city services? I know Sandy Springs, GA (an Atlanta suburb) has, but Georgia is a 'right-to-work' state...rather than a 'union' state. POTUS Franklin Delano Roosevelt was against public sector unions. POTUS John Fitzgerald Kennedy said in his inaugural address "ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country". These turned out to be profoundly hypocritical words, as (inspired by NYC Mayor Richard Wagner, and the effects granting collective bargaining to city workers had on his re-election) Kennedy granted collective bargaining to federal employees. Side note... Wagner did some good things (especially ending certain types of discrimination...as much as the city can have an effect :thumbsup:)...good things that were long overdue.

[Jcp123]

Gub'ment at its finest, for sure.

[nookandcrannycar]

Rochester only averages just under 100 inches per season, so it shouldn't be much worse than Texas.:rolleyes:

:laugh:....Yeah, I know. Some of us (speaking only for myself) who haven't driven throughout at least one 'true winter', can be kind of wimps about such stuff.

[nookandcrannycar]

People do use carfax. But why on a 11 years old car? I would be bothered for a 20k used Audi, but not a 10+ years old Toyota.

I've never used it. Have no idea re the cost. Too expensive to be cost effective re an 11 year old car?

[IllusionX]

I've never used it. Have no idea re the cost. Too expensive to be cost effective re an 11 year old car?


It's 50$ for one check. Worth it for a 10+years old winter beater? Maybe for one that never seen winters with low miles.

[Jcp123]

:laugh:....Yeah, I know. Some of us (speaking only for myself) who haven't driven throughout at least one 'true winter', can be kind of wimps about such stuff.

I'm a Californian who lives in Texas...am I double wimpy then? Lol

[nookandcrannycar]

It's 50$ for one check. Worth it for a 10+years old winter beater? Maybe for one that never seen winters with low miles.

You're right :thumbsup:. Some of us who haven't lived year round in an area with inclement winter weather, haven't had the idea of a 'winter beater' (a great, practical idea :thumbsup:) become part of a normal thought process. Makes tons of sense....in every part of Canada (I'd imagine), as well as quite a few spots in the United States.

[nookandcrannycar]

I'm a Californian who lives in Texas

lol...I am as well. I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could :biggrin: (uhhh.....not very fast). I like to think I have a much more favorable view of Texas than most Californians who are now 'Texans' :thumbsup:.

[Jcp123]

I highly recommend another Echo. I really like mine, a real testament since I was hardwired to hate the bloody thing. You actually can find some granny-owned Echos out there, I don't have any doubt you'll find a good replacement if it comes to that.

[Jcp123]

:barf:lol...I am as well. I wasn't born here, but I got here as fast as I could :biggrin: (uhhh.....not very fast). I like to think I have a much more favorable view of Texas than most Californians who are now 'Texans' :thumbsup:.

I like Texas...I'm not a big fan of the part of Texas in which I find myself.

[nookandcrannycar]

:barf:

I like Texas...I'm not a big fan of the part of Texas in which I find myself.

If one is used to a large metropolitan area, your area might eventually lead one to feel a bit isolated....not effortless just to pop over to Dallas. Of course some (mostly small) towns in East Texas have a poor reputation for various things (different towns, different things)....Yep.

[jambo101]

The insurance has decided to write the car off, i am now wondering what Canadian book the insurance company will use to determine value..
03 Toyota Echo in mint condition with 107,000kms
I'm hoping for at least $2K

[dj92]

How about fixing it on your own?
2k should be far enough to get acceptable parts at the scrapyard.
I'd go that far for my XP9 (especially when I'm done with the next upgrades).

[Jcp123]

I think I'd be tempted to fix it as well. Especially in as good condition as it is otherwise. I rear ended someone in mine and paid out of pocket for a fender and headlight assembly. For some reason all the Echos I run across are more than $2k...

[shepd]

The insurance has decided to write the car off, i am now wondering what Canadian book the insurance company will use to determine value..
03 Toyota Echo in mint condition with 107,000kms
I'm hoping for at least $2K

vmrcanada.com will give you a guess.

Not sure of the details of your car, but a mint '03 4dr base w/o A/C with 107 kkms is $4050 wholesale / $5650 retail.

I would say they'll give you $4000. I would invest that in an '07 Yaris. I know I paid that much for mine. :D

Could be a difficult fix (safety-wise) if the B-Pillar is compromised. If you didn't care at all, and were willing to accept leaks/misalignments/reduced safety and such, get the salvage price of the car and make your decision. Your car will have to pass safety again to upgrade the title back to fit (assuming that's an option in Quebec, I imagine it is), so if anything at all was already weak or rusty, your could be wasting your money if you don't want to repair that.

If the B-Pillar is too far gone, you could cut and weld a new one. The car won't ever be the same, and it will be a massive pain in the ass. Definitely not worth it for the age of vehicle.

[jambo101]

Fixing it is not an option, i have no time or place or the tools required to undertake such a project.
Theres plenty of choices for a low cost replacement car.
Example=
http://wwwa.autotrader.ca/cars/toyota/yaris/qc/montr%C3%A9al/?prx=50&prv=Quebec&loc=Montr%C3%A9al%2c+QC&body=Sedan&adtype=Private&sts=Used&showcpo=1&pRng=1000%2c6000&oRng=100%2c150000&hprc=True&wcp=True

[jambo101]

Insurance just called, they have valued my car at $4200. i'm ok with that..