View Full Version : Chevy's solution: copy Toyota shamelessly
deebrown
04-30-2007, 02:37 AM
Check this out:
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/new_york_auto_show_2007/138/Chevy-s-Got-the-Beat/
The Beat = The Yaris
The Groove = The Xb
The Trax = The Matrix
YarisKid
04-30-2007, 03:55 AM
Jeez, how could you not like the look? It's almost the same. It looks like a pissed off mini train.....
I'd never betray "The Gobstopper" for a Chevy....
-YK
eTiMaGo
04-30-2007, 04:09 AM
what's Chevy's tag line again? (looks and drives) Like a Rock?
hasher22
04-30-2007, 05:45 AM
im sorry but those are the ugliest cars ive ever seen. People who waste money on these kind of cars needs to get a life and should know ugly shit like that will never sell. If it does sell then people are stupid. Who names cars beat, groove and trax? following the trend of car names like fit
nsmitchell
04-30-2007, 10:14 AM
I think this is a great thing for Chevy to finally bring some small exciting cars to Americans. Some people just wont buy Japanese cars. The Trax is doing something I thought of a long time ago which is use a gas engine for the front wheels and an electric engine for the rear that boost you from a stop. Then the batteries charge back once you get going. The Groove has a 1.0 litre diesel! I think if Chevy keeps them just the way they are shown on that site, they will have 3 little hits on their hands. I think they look pretty cool. All 3 of them!
ChinoCharles
04-30-2007, 10:38 AM
Its still a Chevy. :barf:
jamal1984
04-30-2007, 11:16 AM
yeah most of peoples will never buy a Japanese cars because it's from Japanese, i had alot of customers who are white and black and they told us that they will never set theirs foot on Japanese Cars. So i think these 3 will be see alot on the roads.
kurokoma-kun
04-30-2007, 11:18 AM
How funny, considering Toyota's newest plant is going to be built in Mississippi...
Yaris Revenge
04-30-2007, 11:30 AM
Its still a Chevy. :barf:
You GOTTA be joking Chino. The only thing that'll be Chevy on those cars is the bowtie, and even that will be manufactured in China. :wink: Are their Toyotas and Hondas crap too, just because they have a GM-owned emblem on the hood?
As for the "only buy American" people, you've gotta wonder what rock they've been living under all this time. Are there any mid-sized or smaller American cars that don't have Asian power plants?
~SM
ceres
04-30-2007, 11:33 AM
Most people who refuse to buy Japanese cars drive gas gussling trucks so I still wouldn't be surprised if these don't sell that great. At least no better than something like the Aveo. This is probably a desperate measure to gain back some of the people buying the Yaris, Fit, Scion xB & that Honda that looks like a box. These were designed in South Korea according to the article and considering Hyundai is a Korean company, I'm not really surprised at the copying.
And I'd say the fact that Toyota surpassed GM recently in sales and a general downtrend in American carmakers says that there's also not many xenophobic Americans who refuse to buy anything but American cars. Most probably realize that no matter what they buy, the majority of the individual pieces are probably from China, anyway.
Besides, the Beat looks really freaky to me. The blue in the headlights make them look like eyes and the black stripe kind of completes it to look like a frowning face. I hate the boxy looking cars like the xB so the other two are particularly unappealing to me.
Also.
Chevrolet is inviting the public to choose their favorite by visiting www.vote4chevrolet.com, where enough interest may provide the impetus to take one of these vehicles to production.
So there's a good chance only 1, if any, will ever be seen in full production. Which, knowing Chevy fans, will probably be the largest of the vehicles.
weaponrcamry
04-30-2007, 11:45 AM
Its still a Chevy. :barf:
Hahaha. The green one doesn't look that bad. I think everyone uses designs from other companies..
DorytheYaris
04-30-2007, 01:33 PM
Its still a Chevy. :barf:
x2
It is a neat design, just a little too boxy.
Not bad looking, but I wouldn't buy any of them. At best, I'd get GM quality. At worst, Daewoo.
Really though, it's unfair to say that they're copying (just) Toyota specifically. The Beat looks more like 2-door Fit (perhaps by way of the xA) than it does the Yaris. And really, all B-spec hatchbacks look a bit like each other. And I see as much Honda Element, Chevy HHR, PT Cruiser, Jeep Compass (and even a little Hummer H3!) in the other two designs as I do xB or Matrix/Vibe.
jamal1984
04-30-2007, 03:08 PM
http://l.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/i/articles/new_auto_show_2007_articles/chevrolet_trax_beat_groove/beat_yahoo_x.jpg
This green thing looks like its pretty angry.....ROOOOAAAAR!!!!!! LOL.
if this green car cost around $8k to 9k i will buy it with 0% APR. :headbang:
nsmitchell
04-30-2007, 03:37 PM
Anyone hear about the Indian company Tata Motors? They are going to try to make a car for the USA for around $2500.00.
That's right, $1000.00 less than the Yaris ZPI Turbocharger!
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_17/b4031064.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_business week+exclusives
33 Horsepower! I bet if you put some NOS on that baby you could get it iup to 45HP!
I bet it will be beautiful as well!!! ; )
Yaris Revenge
04-30-2007, 05:39 PM
Hey, don't knock it! VW bugs started out around 40 or so horses, and look where they are now! :biggrin:
However, I think they may need to change their company name for the English-speaking market. I wouldn't be interested in driving around a boobiemobile. :laugh:
~YR
Ran Kizama
04-30-2007, 06:46 PM
yeah most of peoples will never buy a Japanese cars because it's from Japanese, i had alot of customers who are white and black and they told us that they will never set theirs foot on Japanese Cars. So i think these 3 will be see alot on the roads.Their loss. :cool:
I'm kinda curious where all these "I'll never buy a Japanese vehicle" people are hiding. Almost everyone I know associates "Japanes car" with bullet-proof quality. Even down where my father lives, in the Middle of Nowhere, Alabama, the preferred work truck of 90% of the farmers is the Toyota Tundra. Most of the remaning 10% are Dodge Rams, with only a small sliver of Ford or Chevy supporters.
The Honda Ridgeline, of course, despite its Car and Driver win a year or two ago, isn't very popular among people who actually want a pickup. I'm curious to see if the recent crowning by both C&D and Motor Trend of the new Silverado does anything to help its reputation among people who rely on their trucks the way these farmers do.
But really, if a bunch of rednecks tooling around their farms in rural Alabama -- not exactly a group especially friendly to all things foreign -- are driving Toyotas, where are all the automotive xenophobes?
ECHOKnight2000
04-30-2007, 09:41 PM
I'm not going to lie. I do like the Beat. Its a funky looking car. With Green, my fav color to boot!:wink: :thumbsup:
ChinoCharles
04-30-2007, 09:46 PM
I'd grab a Tata. :laugh: No, seriously, I'd garage the Yaris for winters if I could grab a tinky daily driver for a few grand. I agree, that is the next frontier in motoring. Disposable cars.
churp
04-30-2007, 10:08 PM
I've owned three 36 hp cars....VW bug, Triuph Hearald, and a Honda 600 Coupe....and I used them for daily drivers. The 1st 2 were 55mph wonders and the Honda would get up to 75. With my driving, the Bug got mid 20's mpg, the Hearald maybe a little better, and the Honda got 30-33....and no, I didn't use hypermiling techniques, but I drove faster than the hypers do. I'd gladly buy a new one like these for $3,000......especialy if you could keep them running with a visegrip, screw driver, and baling wire!
wagoneer
04-30-2007, 10:15 PM
I like the green car. I would like to know how it performs with the smaller turbo engine.
The world (outside of the U.S. is about small cars). Small cars rule. Ever see some of the GM Holdens out there? They are coming to America...as Pontiacs.
The more the merrier, a little competition never hurt anyone.
However, if the green car steers and shifts like the Aveo, I would have to buy a Yaris again.
PetersRedYaris
05-01-2007, 01:40 AM
I think these cars look good for being made by Chevy. Anybody remember the Pontiac Aztec? How the hell did that one slip through? Although this would be a good direction for Chevy, these cars will never make it to market looking like that. They'll be toned down to the typical blandness Chevy desires and carry along their shit quality to boot. I do like the idea of that 1.0 liter diesel, :drool: Just not one made by Chevy.
spkrman
05-01-2007, 02:07 AM
I'd grab a Tata. :laugh: No, seriously, I'd garage the Yaris for winters if I could grab a tinky daily driver for a few grand. I agree, that is the next frontier in motoring. Disposable cars.
I'd be ALL OVER driving a tata!!!!
Of course, I'd end up buying the car 3 times over in mods.... :headbang:
Presto
05-01-2007, 06:34 AM
Throw on some traction bars and hood scoop and you will really get the Chevy crowd enthusiastic.
Sersiously, this is good news. GM has the absolute worst timing. If nothing more, by the time these things hit the showroom floor, there's a good chance gas will be headed toward $1.50 a gallon.
static808
05-01-2007, 06:51 PM
If nothing more, by the time these things hit the showroom floor, there's a good chance gas will be headed toward $1.50 a gallon.
arent gas prices only going to increase from here on out??
--B
drifto
05-01-2007, 08:15 PM
yeah most of peoples will never buy a Japanese cars because it's from Japanese, i had alot of customers who are white and black and they told us that they will never set theirs foot on Japanese Cars. So i think these 3 will be see alot on the roads.
I think this is a great thing for Chevy to finally bring some small exciting cars to Americans. Some people just wont buy Japanese cars.
you guys realize that the last american built car that had 100% american parts was produced back in the late 1950's. since then the majority of parts are from japan mexico canada and europe... take a look at some of the ignition components on a late model corvette, they are made by kawasaki. and a lot of parts on say a camry are made here in the usa. my point is people who buy american cars to support the american product are not supporting as much as they think... i may be wrong but i remember reading about a particular toyota model (camry?), american factory built, using more american made parts than some GM and ford cars built cars at the time. anyways... thats just my two cents. if people did more research on a car they like they would be surprised what they are buying.
redyaris
05-01-2007, 08:23 PM
http://l.yimg.com/img.autos.yahoo.com/i/articles/new_auto_show_2007_articles/chevrolet_trax_beat_groove/beat_yahoo_x.jpg
They stole our side windows!!! BASTARDS!!
static808
05-01-2007, 08:49 PM
i may be wrong but i remember reading about a particular toyota model (camry?), american factory built, using more american made parts than some GM and ford cars built cars at the time.
one good example is the fusion vs. camry vs. accord. the camry and accord are both built in the US. i think i remember reading the fusion being built in mexico. so toyota and honda actually have the more AMERICAN car. gm also builds a crap load of cars in canada. i guess when chevy says "an american revolution", they mean STOP building cars here and START building cars elsewhere...
--B
Lillydot
05-01-2007, 11:13 PM
i think the Beat is really cute. i still wouldn't get a chevy, but i like the look. except that black slash. if toyota or honda ( or VW, or Saab, or Volvo) came out this a car that looked like that, i'd take it!
churp
05-01-2007, 11:28 PM
Being a little stingy with the American thing??...seems to me that Mexico and Canada are as American as The US.....then we could go Central and South!!!!
Chevrolet isn't stretching the truth until it comes to overseas!!
The world is really getting smaller.
:thumbup: :headbang: :thumbup:
churp
05-01-2007, 11:39 PM
Can you imagine what the Tata could do to the US economy.....used car market would go to hell,.... why buy a 4 wheeler when you could buy a Tata,rip the fenders off and replace the wheels with deep offsets and knobbies for a big savings....can't buy a decent lawn tractor for $2500!
I'm sure our great US government will never allow it at that price!
static808
05-02-2007, 01:35 AM
Being a little stingy with the American thing??...seems to me that Mexico and Canada are as American as The US.....then we could go Central and South!!!!
Chevrolet isn't stretching the truth until it comes to overseas!!
The world is really getting smaller.
:thumbup: :headbang: :thumbup:
haha, you're kidding right!?! not to sound like the US and japan are the only countries that can make good cars, but when was the last time you saw someone getting excited over their car being built in mexico?? to be more specific, i'm more frustrated with how american companies are bashing japanese companies simply because they are foreign owned, and add to that fact the number of ignorant americans who purchase cars solely because of the "supposed" nation of origin. i actually really appreciate a really well built american car, such as my sienna (built in princeton, indiana). the hypocrisy of american car companies can get ridiculous sometimes, that's all...
--B
PetersRedYaris
05-02-2007, 01:36 AM
Can you imagine what the Tata could do to the US economy.....used car market would go to hell,.... why buy a 4 wheeler when you could buy a Tata,rip the fenders off and replace the wheels with deep offsets and knobbies for a big savings....can't buy a decent lawn tractor for $2500!
I'm sure our great US government will never allow it at that price!
I don't see how it can be done while still meeting DOT safety standards. I gunna call :bs: on the tata and say it's never going to happen at that price. More power to them if they can.
nsmitchell
05-02-2007, 10:19 AM
Tata Motors Slogan for America:
"Come check out our Bodacious Tatas!"
"You'll get a boner for our Tatas!"
New thread needed for this? hehe
eTiMaGo
05-02-2007, 10:34 AM
don't forget "Tata-licious!"
Yaris Revenge
05-02-2007, 10:36 AM
I've owned three 36 hp cars....VW bug, Triuph Hearald, and a Honda 600 Coupe....and I used them for daily drivers. The 1st 2 were 55mph wonders and the Honda would get up to 75. With my driving, the Bug got mid 20's mpg, the Hearald maybe a little better, and the Honda got 30-33....and no, I didn't use hypermiling techniques, but I drove faster than the hypers do. I'd gladly buy a new one like these for $3,000......especialy if you could keep them running with a visegrip, screw driver, and baling wire!
HEY! I had a Honda Z600 also! Cool!
Did you know at one time that car held the record for fastest stock minicar? Someone had a bone-stocker that hit 95mph. Not bad for a 600cc two cylinder, but scary, considering the ONLY safety features were the seatbelts, and nothing in the whole car was held together by more than 4 bolts!
http://thisoldhonda.org/pictures/z600.jpg
(not mine)
~YR
graywolf_14
05-02-2007, 11:22 AM
Yeah I believe that toyota vehicles have mainly american made parts.
graywolf_14
05-02-2007, 11:26 AM
Well look at ratheon a large aircraft company that out sourses parts. They had alot of problems with the parts made in mexico.
jmjonesey
05-02-2007, 11:07 PM
Cant wait to see the YouTube videos "Yaris vs Beat (beat gets beat)"
Who knows, I might have to make/post one :thumbup:
My girlfriend says it looks really cool, she thought that would be neat to see out on the road.
I told her the first one we see is probably going to be getting dragged down the highway at 60+ underneath a transfer truck
graywolf_14
05-02-2007, 11:48 PM
Heck the yaris has a small enough motor so the beat better get better mpg.
joe keeney
05-02-2007, 11:56 PM
Mine got it's frist fill up today 36.1 thats running air. Chevy new line will go down the tubes. Daewoo Aveo or chevy sucks Q C not a strong factor.
mafuzoulpa
05-03-2007, 01:05 AM
its an XA with fewer doors, crappy resale value and a frown....
static808
05-03-2007, 01:05 AM
Good for the U.S. for getting into the B-segment. Competition is good.
+1
--B
YogiYaris
05-03-2007, 02:05 AM
its an XA with fewer doors, crappy resale value and a frown....
Ha Ha LMAO!!! :) You are pretty close to defining this thing but I think that it looks more like an Aveo on steroids.
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